Are feminineness and feminism compatible?

[Ixtab]

-This is a question that I have never heard a satisfactory answer to from any of the proponents of Feminism.
-I don't think they are compatible. And, by the way, any 'feminism' which wishes to dispose of feminineness is in effect misogynistic. At least this is true of the kind of feminism that has gained the most popularity.

[Ixtab]

Feminists do not consciously wish to dispose of feminineness. They think that they are embracing 'real' femininity, while rejecting the old notion of femininity as a 'social construct'; because only if femininity is the result of some social tradition, not rooted in the very constitution of the female brain, can the transcendence of 'patriarchy' be possible. So that by dismissing femininity as a 'social construct,' Feminism is in effect wishing it out of existence.

[raven]

I'm not sure how to vote on this one. However I did have a professor who is a self-proclaimed feminist (she knows her women's studies work and published works) though she, unlike the stereotypical feminist, is married and has three boys (therefore shes not some whiteman-hater). I'd say she's a feminine lady, otherwise I wouldn't have had fantasies about having sex with her. (though of course I wouldn't since I'm not an adulterer) :D

[Ixtab]

I'm not sure how to vote on this one. However I did have a professor who is a self-proclaimed feminist (she knows her women's studies work and published works) though she, unlike the stereotypical feminist, is married and has three boys (therefore shes not some whiteman-hater). I'd say she's a feminine lady, otherwise I wouldn't have had fantasies about having sex with her. (though of course I wouldn't since I'm not an adulterer) :DI do not speak of the presence or absence of feminineness in individual feminist women. I refer to what is the logical completion of the feminist ideology, which regards feminineness as a 'social construct', that is to say, not rooted in the constitution of the female brain--so that it can be transcended.

[Starr]

And, by the way, any 'feminism' which wishes to dispose of feminineness is in effect misogynistic

In giving the impression to women that they need to be more like men, they are saying that masculine traits are superior to feminine traits so yes, this is true.

[Ahknaton]

Is femininity and giving women the vote compatible? :D

[Ixtab]

Is femininity and giving women the vote compatible? :DGiving women the vote is based on the idea of a metaphysical equalness of all humans, not Feminism.

[Sinclair]

Depends on what you mean by femininity. Femininity a hundred years ago and today are really rather different.

[Ixtab]

Depends on what you mean by femininity. Femininity a hundred years ago and today are really rather different.Not fundamentally.

[Sinclair]

Not fundamentally.

Really?

A lot could be said about the wierd offshoot of feminism that's resulted in acting in a manner that is, for lack of a better word, slutty, being seen as "empowering".

[Crowley]

First "feminism" needs to be defined. Is it simply a woman working outside the home or is it something else?