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Hakluyt
12-28-2005, 03:24 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-18791-1957466-18791,00.html

The Times December 23, 2005

Voting and the feminine mystique

Anjana Ahuja

Parents of daughters are more likely to be left-wing, whatever the feminists claim


FATHERS WILL DO anything for their little princesses. They turn a blind eye as the house becomes a palace of pink fluff. Later on they play a pivotal role in their daughters’ social development — that of chauffeur.

Dads will even, we learnt this week, shift political allegiance for their daughters. Andrew Oswald, from Warwick University, and Nattavudh Powdthavee, of the Institute of Education at London University, have discovered that how parents vote is linked to the gender of their children. The more daughters there are in a household, the more likely the parents are to vote Labour or Liberal Democrat. In an unpublished paper that has been submitted to an economics journal, the pair declare: “This paper provides evidence that daughters make people more left wing. Having sons, by contrast, makes them more right wing.” The academics go on to speculate that left-wing families become so through a predominance of females down successive generations.

The researchers have been accused of propagating gender stereotypes, and of perpetuating the idea that women go in for softer politics than men. The feminist ire, however, is misdirected. Some of the most exciting scientific research points to a similar, intuitive conclusion — that, on the whole, men and women think and behave differently. One emerging theory of autism — a condition that affects three times as many men than women — is that autistic behaviours are extreme versions of typical male traits. So, for example, a preoccupation with objects becomes an obsession. Psychopaths, whose lack of a conscience is linked very strongly to brain abnormalities, are also predominantly male. While we are busy dismantling the gender barriers that sprang up historically through sexism, contemporary research is erecting new ones under our very noses.

Professor Oswald and Dr Powdthavee drew their data from the British Household Panel Survey, which has monitored 10,000 adults in 5,500 households each year since 1991 and is regarded as an accurate tracker of social and economic change. Among parents with two children who voted for the Left (Labour or Lib Dem), the mean number of daughters was higher than the mean number of sons. The same applied to parents with three or four children. Of those parents with three sons and no daughters, 67 per cent voted Left. In households with three daughters and no sons, the figure was 77 per cent.

But it was the “switchers” who provided the most compelling evidence. By examining declared voting preferences for the period 1991 to 2004, Professor Oswald and Dr Powdthavee found that 539 people switched from Left to Right, and 802 switched from Right to Left. The most significant difference between these two groups of switchers? The voters who swung from Right to Left had borne, on average, more daughters.

Professor Oswald, the father of two daughters, sat on the results for three months. He decided to release them this week, after finding the same pattern in German households. For every daughter a German has, he is 2.5 per cent more likely to vote for the SPD, the largest party of the Left. The link holds true even when parental age, income and education are taken into account, and Professor Oswald is certain it is causal. Since voting patterns cannot determine the gender of children, he says, the children’s gender must be influencing parental voting pattern.

But how and why? He frames his theory in utilitarian terms: because women tend to be more group-oriented, and to be paid less, we may expect them to favour a political system that taxes heavily and spends the taxes on communal improvements, such as crèches or police patrols. Women benefit from such policies without bearing a high tax burden because they are on low incomes. Parents of daughters are subconsciously aware that such policies favour women, and thus feel more inclined towards them.

But we still need to explain why parents would vote for something that benefits their offspring rather than themselves. Here Professor Oswald invokes Darwinian theory, which is that people make decisions that are likely to benefit their children. When children prosper, their chances of reproducing also flourish, and the genetic line is more likely to be continued. He believes that a switch in voter behaviour is a “subconscious nod” in this direction. While everyone assumed that parents moulded the political allegiances of their offspring, he says, the idea that one’s priorities change after parenthood is perfectly intuitive.

Professor Oswald was berated on the radio this week by a (female) journalist not only for reinforcing gender stereotypes but also for dreaming up a theory and then finding the facts to fit. It is a naive and futile accusation. The academics asked no leading questions, instead they analysed one of the most comprehensive sets of data available to social scientists. They kept quiet until they found the same trend in another data set. And that is the marvellous thing about cold, hard numbers: you can’t argue with a respectable analysis, especially when it throws up the same result twice.

The journalist went on to decry the preponderance of pink clothes for baby girls, and announced that she had bought tractors rather than dolls for her own infant daughter. She will find that gender is not so easily subverted, especially in the light of behavioural research that shows boys will be boys and girls will be girls. Since the research also suggests a shrinking role for parental influence on a child’s behaviour, she should prepare for the pink fluff.

Kodos
12-28-2005, 03:50 PM
Good article, and another arguement why women's suffrage( if we must have democracy) should be revoked.

Felix the Cat
12-28-2005, 03:57 PM
I would have thought that parents of daughters would worry more about law-and-order issues than parents of sons

raven
12-28-2005, 04:47 PM
Yes I agree with it wholeheartedly. My brother used to in many ways be just like I am now but then he totally changed when he married his wife. Then he had two girls and theres no looking back. My nieces (his daughters) are so spoiled it's not even funny. They are really adorable but my brother does everything for his little princesses. However my brother isn't left-wing, he votes conservative all the time (whereas I have never voted federally and provincially because I'm sick of the political system). However he is influenced by the three females in the family, espeically his wife, so you get the idea. This is why in many ways I'm afraid of being a father (even though I want to get married and have a family) because if I have a daughter I have no idea what I'm going to do. :D

With a son, at least it will be easier to influence him because sons will look up to their fathers as role models so as long as they are strong father figures. Not to mention that sons are more capable of protecting themselves and are less naive (before Starr says anything, I'm talking about typical women... not all ladies are naive. :D)

Niko Bellic
12-28-2005, 11:12 PM
Some of the most exciting scientific research points to a similar, intuitive conclusion — that, on the whole, men and women think and behave differently.

No way! I don't believe it! Really?

I wonder how much grant money has been thrown down the black hole of university research to reach this conclusion.

Starr
12-29-2005, 02:33 AM
I would have thought that parents of daughters would worry more about law-and-order issues than parents of sons

That would have been my first thought, too.

I wonder how much grant money has been thrown down the black hole of university research to reach this conclusion.

Yes, it is always amazing, the wise conclusions they come up with when conducting these studies and all the money and time they take. Like the one someone posted on here a couple of days ago that said(very shocking) the best way to avoid a hangover is not to drink.:rofl:

I do believe a lot of what this article says is true. It also speaks of how easily men also bought into the idea that left wing/feminist type shit and all that comes with it is positive for women.

I also think a lot of men who may become more liberal when they have daughters is simply to keep the peace in the household. Since women do tend to be more liberal and because a pissed off woman can be very difficult to live with, that should be very obvious.:D

Not to mention that sons are more capable of protecting themselves and are less naive (before Starr says anything, I'm talking about typical women... not all ladies are naive.

I actually do not disagree with this.

Heimdall
12-29-2005, 03:38 AM
I'm not sure if this is the case everywhere. In the U.S. the majority of married women vote Republican (http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/polls/2004-08-25-female-vote_x.htm), though whether that is actually conservative is up for debate.

infoterror
12-29-2005, 04:45 AM
Liberalism = testicles removed. Proof's in the pudding.

Jimbo Gomez
12-29-2005, 10:22 AM
Liberalism = testicles removed. Proof's in the pudding.


You found testicles in your pudding? :p

Felix the Cat
12-29-2005, 08:50 PM
Also, I think I remember reading somewhere that the wealthy tend to have more daughters than the poor

Anyone have info on this?

Hakluyt
12-29-2005, 09:08 PM
That would make biological sense, for if I'm not mistaken it's many times more likely that a woman will give birth to a female than a male past her 30th year or so.

Anarch
12-29-2005, 11:47 PM
In conclusion: Have daughters and you'll turn into a filthy communist.

Oh, and Patriarchy 4 eva ;)