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Thoth
08-01-2007, 01:01 AM
Psychoanalysis of Masculine Mystique
(Rudy 'n Fred ?)
They don't call 'im Jew-liani for nothing.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070730/D8QN4AHO0.html
Giuliani: Dems Want Nanny Government
July 30, 4:06 PM (ET)
(Murdoch gets Dow Jones. They don't call this month Jewlie for nothing)
By PHILIP ELLIOTT
MEREDITH, N.H. (AP) - Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani on Monday accused Democrats of favoring a controlling "nanny government" as he continued his bashing of the rival party
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CNN, NBC and Fox Jews were all smirking heavily about Hillary's recently lowered neckline, dear, dear, ... "How long..?" you ask yourself, "did you think it would be before Hillary's tits became conservative fodder?" after all, they've living off slick Willie's cock sucking for over ten years now, and counting.
The unconscious associations with "Hillary" go back to the the brief Clinton "honeymoon" period after it looked like the sexy 60's had finally driven the Nixon criminals, Reagan Reversers, and Bush's international bloodline snake cultists back into their caves. Twin sister of Lorena Bobbit. Whacked off a US Marine's dick. Shove queers up the nose of barrack's CeO's. Cartoon pictures showing Hillary under a Christmas tree opening a box containing a large jagged edge knife. Tagged "Use it. I did - love, Lorena.) Rush Limbaugh starts hooting up "feminazis", and picture-smearing Ross Perot. (In Linder-ese, Limbaugh is "crypto-kike"; not the same as kikealike. Both terms mirror the Archetype of Medieval Jew as Old Adam, prima materia, untransformed lead. (No Second Adam in there) This was the birth of America's Baby-boom generation's emasculated "Killer mommy" group fantasy. From henceforth, Hillary, Bill and the pill; if they don't getcha' the abortionists will.
Given this, it could only be a matter of time before there appears, Walla! -- "Masculine Mystique"! No, no Betty Friedan to document it. Only Franklin Foer, The New Republic and Fred (Thompson, not Flintstone)
From The New Republic: The Masculine Mystique of Fred Thompson
Franklin Foer <show details> Jul 27 (4 days ago)
Dear Reader,
"How did Fred Thomspon become the front-runner for the Republican nomination--before he has even declared his intention to run? In our latest issue, Michelle Cottle offers an explanation: Thompson, she says, projects an old-school masculinity that holds particular appeal for Republican voters. Subscribe today for only $9.97 to read the issue with this cover story."
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"Thompson" represents the inner essence of all males who do not intend to let themselves be mutilated, physically or psychologically, by any killer mommy bitch, and stand ready to fucking kill her if she even thinks about it.
This male ego-defense mechanism develops, in time, in reaction to nagging bitch mothers abuse. It follows by lawful flow of instinctive process in these conditions. It's called "male rebellion". Females are not -- or are not supposed to be -- called upon to react rebelliously in the same way toward the Mother, but toward the Father, as the figure standing between them and going out with boys (having sex). This is the matching SyZyGy of Male-Female/Father-Mother/Son-Daughter opposite-intersection-lineages. These compress ("tesselate") into S*double in the phrase "Oedipal/Electra complexes." The rebellious ("dark") side of maleness retains (kill<=> Mother) fantasies; the rebellious ("dark") female side retains (kill <=> (emasculate) Father) fantasies. The psychodynamics of the latter has played out over the duration of the last two millinia. The story is, The Father reconciled himself to the son's perpetual rebelliousness ("Z"-ing over from Electra's situation resolved: it comes down to who gets her) by sacrificing His own, which is identical with (one third) of His essence-substance incorporated in the flow of processes in an individual human body (believed by Christians to have been uniquely that of Jesus Christ). The said resolution between daughter and Father, however, was subsumed under her (the young female/daughter's) relation to Mother, through Mother, of "Father's child"; that is to say, through her passive-receptive role in being impregnated by a second one-third of Being-Father essence (may every woman be 'Mary' -- so vehemently resisted by Mary Daly). It is this, the bottom of the "Z" unfolding => the daughter's relation to the Mother, the War Within The Feminine => that was laid aside as historically unresolved. Jung spoke of the Anima (feminine, psyche) as "inclining to" the Animus (masculine, physical) in the Age of Pisces. The psychoanalytic faces of Parents of Aquarius, at Age's birth, are Nancy Grace, as Mother; Glenn Beck as Son**; Rupert Murdoch and associates doing the UnHoly Ghost on your soul.
(** daily staple on CNN, 8-10 pm weekdays, followed by Anderson Cooper. Nothing but crime and punishment on MSNBC after Olberman at 8.)
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Brief metaphysical warning: Prolonged over-exposure to any wrongly constellated completing factor can cause permanent damage to the to7ality* (*unit of lawfully completing seven-stage life-cycle trajectory).
In particular, since any reference to parents (even by analogy), as sources-of-our-arising, evokes the emotional bond each has to the psychic totality of their own arising, then, given that whatever resonates to this evocation resonates through the essence totality, damage to function due to substitution of wrong Mother completing factor can be severe. What are called 'logicnestarian growths'* (*automatic confabulation of unconsciously associated mental content") will occur on nodes of the to7ality trajectory called "StopInders" (cf. psychosemiotic Enneagram). The lawful process evoked by over-stimulation of Bad-Mother-Dominance, for instance, would be that called "ego-defense" against love going out toward aggressive, overly seductive or otherwise abusive Mothers or Mother figures. These, as individuals themselves, of course, have a psychodynamics with issues its own, mostly entirely oblivious to the fact that their manifestations affect the inner reactions of children, even as their parent's had done the same to them.
Now, with the American Group Fantasy just discovering Barbara Bush is daughter of Satan, himself (no telling how G. W. was conceived), the double-sumultaneous play-out of
Perpetual Iraq/Mideast war for Israel abroad
<=>
Perpetual Killer Mommy politics at home.
becomes utterly obvious. I will that it be stopped.
Niko Bellic
08-01-2007, 01:38 AM
So you're saying that Barbara Bush was a bad mommy, and that's the real reason Bush invaded Iraq?
Thoth
08-01-2007, 01:39 PM
So you're saying that Barbara Bush was a bad mommy, and that's the real reason Bush invaded Iraq?
Hadn't put it just that way -- but I LIKE IT!
The classic line is: the chief motivating factor of the group as a whole -- treating it as a single entity 'under' the Leader who personifies "Father protector" -- conjoins with personal psychology and DRIVES BUSH Jr. TO GO FURTHER THAN HIS FATHER ('killing' him, to get the mother = America/mother) BY OVERTHROWING SADDAM HUSSEIN ("cutting off the head of the snake"). The unconscious "little boy" side of all us male Americans expected him to do it, knew* he would, and those who had reconcilliations to make with their own fathers supported it. (Ex.: Speilberg making up with his OM by making Saving Private Ryan; Ronald Reagan reconciling Jack by turning rabidly anti-Communist, after actually leading a liberal sit-in protest at the Wheaton College Dean's office as a student).
What hit me, bubbling up through the (no doubt fictitious( story that Barb B. was actual seed of Aleister Crowley), was the entire Electra side of the classic 6-year old situation -- how the cat-fighting women thing was playing out, after C. Sheehan put her oar in the water. -- and how it fit with the Trinitarian +1 Zeitgeist of this cruel Aquarianism, so far. Surely the whole Age won't be this bad. This stuff hasn't been worked through intellectually, much less existentially. I've wanted to hang around just to see.
Ahknaton
08-23-2007, 02:32 PM
Perpetual Iraq/Mideast war for Israel abroad
<=>
Perpetual Killer Mommy politics at home.
I missed this while I was away, and I think you've struck gold here.
I think it ties in to the ways in which young males are manipulated/persuaded into fighting war, or why they commit violence in general. I can think of 3 reasons:
- War booty. Ego gratification. Rape, pillage and conquest etc.
- Duty. Manipulation of feelings of obligation (via guilt). I think the key element of this is the obligation to defend women & children, whether one's own or a via proxy (concrete or symbolic).
- Honour. Seeking payback for some kind of insult. Machismo: primarily all about "impressing chicks". Defending one's status as "top dog". If it's not then it falls under duty (in the form of loyalty to a - often female pesonified - higher ideal).
http://www.library.georgetown.edu/dept/speccoll/britpost/cover.jpg
http://www.firstworldwar.com/posters/images/pp_uk_24.jpg
Suppose the male doesn't really want to go off to war and get killed. In this case duty is probably operative factor. This means: resentment against who/what is imposing the duty on him. Resentment against the feminine for being weak and requiring protection. Resentment against the "nagging mother" of his moral conscience (associated with the female - the mother - during childhood upbringing). "Didn't your mother ever teach you right from wrong?" etc. Mother also associated with social/familial expectations to make something of yourself - "make your momma proud" and so on. Honour your mother (moral duties, right from wrong) and your father (don't be a coward, impugning the masculinity of the family name). Suppose he comes to feel tricked and lied to -> rage against the "killer mommie" who sent him off to war with her devious verbal machinations and forked tongue. Heartless Spartan mothers: "come back with your shield or on it". Child sacrifice. Women getting men to fight their wars while they fight a war of words. I'll talk the talk - you walk the walk.
Have Jews/Israel come to psychologically occupy the "mother" role of the culture?
Jews are "the conscience of America". Fulfilling the maternal role of instructing us in right from wrong. Applying the maternal "guilt trip", via verbal arm-twisting. Mother knows best.
Jewish stereotypes: overbearing mothers, henpecking their husbands and berating their sons for not being good enough. Constantly whining and demanding. Dishonest argumentation, preferring subterfuge, emotional blackmail and word-games (i.e. womanlike). It doesn't really matter if these stereotypes are true if they are widely held. George Bush = bumbling father figure, nominal "head of the household", but constantly at the beck and call of his wife, who wields the real power in the domestic relationship. "Married to the devil" (symbolism of Barbara Bush being Satanic offspring mirrors unconscious subtext of Jewish maternal "Satan" married to paternal Christian "father". Jews "own the media", WASPs own the Military Industrial Complex - a marriage made in Hell). We know who's wearing the pants in this relationship.
"You're not good enough for me"
Gentiles need to measure up to Jewish standards to win accolade of "Righteous Gentile". Isn't that what every "Christian" aspires to be? Jews in the role of the woman demanding to be impressed by tough guy antics carried out at their behest to win approval. America needs to prove itself worthy of Jews or Yahweh will destroy it.
Helpless victims (women & children needing protection):
Ahmadinejad is "New Hitler" wanting to perpetuate a "Second Holocaust" by "wiping Israel off the map/page of history". Heavy-duty duty guilt trip here. Chance at redemption for failing to stop Nazis sooner. Righteous Gentile status tantalisingly within reach. Where were you last time? You didn't get there soon enough! Resentment against Jews for needing to be saved -> anti-Semitism plus sympathy with their enemies. Desperate need to convince oneself of the justness of the Islamic cause to dodge the guilt trip of being obliged to fight against it.
Evolan notion of Judeo-Christianity = Lunar/Female, Gentile Pagans = Solar/Male might also fit in here somewhere.
So...
Resentment against "War for Israel" -> subconscious association (via Jews) with nagging mother, demanding blood sacrifice from her (adopted) sons. Killer Mommies.
You're not my real mommie!
Jake Featherston
08-23-2007, 04:19 PM
http://www.firstworldwar.com/posters/images/pp_uk_24.jpg
Not to take this thread into some fruitless, VNN-style harangue, but I just couldn't help noticing how dark the shorter woman is. Kinda odd for an old time "Women of Britain" poster. Is she supposed to be Welsh, or what?
Thoth
08-24-2007, 04:06 AM
Ahknaton,
I have read this absolutely brilliant par excellence I would almost say masterpiece exposition of the "killer mommie" complex. Here are strains to which I relate.
1. Jewish boy's Portnoy-ness ("nice little one there") -- vulgar talk to their mother (S. Baptist kids would get the razor strop for talking to their mother that way, kid you not) vs. manliness -- or image thereof. No self-respecting male is going to vote with kids who talk to their mothers like sluts! Bring on Thompson, Giuliani, McCain, Romney -- they will throw male mystique punch at the PC Obama - Hillary (black man / /female bitch) (...pussified video-game John Mark Karr feel-a-like kid) -- it might work. They win in '08 by reaction-formation to killer mommy PC multicult.
2. The most brilliant point to me was "loving America as mother" => loving the Jewish mother America has become (nagging, suffocating, etc.). Who could stand to do it? -- except pro forma. This senence capped it off:
"Righteous Gentile". Isn't that what every "Christian" aspires to be? Jews in the role of the woman demanding to be impressed by tough guy antics carried out at their behest to win approval."
It must be said: that's Nietzsche+ -- rave on John Donne, rave on, rave on, rave on. and on
(bowing out -- I actually lost a long rely -- this is blurry, but very Pentasynchronic.)
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Ahknaton
08-24-2007, 12:44 PM
Domestic blues:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=477347&in_page_id=1773&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=picbox&ct=5
Fallen King
09-12-2007, 03:37 PM
Suppose the male doesn't really want to go off to war and get killed. In this case duty is probably operative factor. This means: resentment against who/what is imposing the duty on him. Resentment against the feminine for being weak and requiring protection. Resentment against the "nagging mother" of his moral conscience (associated with the female - the mother - during childhood upbringing). "Didn't your mother ever teach you right from wrong?" etc. Mother also associated with social/familial expectations to make something of yourself - "make your momma proud" and so on. Honour your mother (moral duties, right from wrong) and your father (don't be a coward, impugning the masculinity of the family name). Suppose he comes to feel tricked and lied to -> rage against the "killer mommie" who sent him off to war with her devious verbal machinations and forked tongue. Heartless Spartan mothers: "come back with your shield or on it". Child sacrifice. Women getting men to fight their wars while they fight a war of words. I'll talk the talk - you walk the walk.
Have Jews/Israel come to psychologically occupy the "mother" role of the culture?
Jews are "the conscience of America". Fulfilling the maternal role of instructing us in right from wrong. Applying the maternal "guilt trip", via verbal arm-twisting. Mother knows best.
Jewish stereotypes: overbearing mothers, henpecking their husbands and berating their sons for not being good enough. Constantly whining and demanding. Dishonest argumentation, preferring subterfuge, emotional blackmail and word-games (i.e. womanlike). It doesn't really matter if these stereotypes are true if they are widely held. George Bush = bumbling father figure, nominal "head of the household", but constantly at the beck and call of his wife, who wields the real power in the domestic relationship. "Married to the devil" (symbolism of Barbara Bush being Satanic offspring mirrors unconscious subtext of Jewish maternal "Satan" married to paternal Christian "father". Jews "own the media", WASPs own the Military Industrial Complex - a marriage made in Hell). We know who's wearing the pants in this relationship.
"You're not good enough for me"
Gentiles need to measure up to Jewish standards to win accolade of "Righteous Gentile". Isn't that what every "Christian" aspires to be? Jews in the role of the woman demanding to be impressed by tough guy antics carried out at their behest to win approval. America needs to prove itself worthy of Jews or Yahweh will destroy it.
Helpless victims (women & children needing protection):
Ahmadinejad is "New Hitler" wanting to perpetuate a "Second Holocaust" by "wiping Israel off the map/page of history". Heavy-duty duty guilt trip here. Chance at redemption for failing to stop Nazis sooner. Righteous Gentile status tantalisingly within reach. Where were you last time? You didn't get there soon enough! Resentment against Jews for needing to be saved -> anti-Semitism plus sympathy with their enemies. Desperate need to convince oneself of the justness of the Islamic cause to dodge the guilt trip of being obliged to fight against it.
Resentment against "War for Israel" -> subconscious association (via Jews) with nagging mother, demanding blood sacrifice from her (adopted) sons. Killer Mommies.
You're not my real mommie!
Brilliant post! Bravo.
Ahknaton
09-13-2007, 01:16 PM
Thanks WN.
A concrete example of one of these cultural undercurrents just occurred to me:
"You're not good enough for me"
Gentiles need to measure up to Jewish standards to win accolade of "Righteous Gentile". Isn't that what every "Christian" aspires to be? Jews in the role of the woman demanding to be impressed by tough guy antics carried out at their behest to win approval. America needs to prove itself worthy of Jews or Yahweh will destroy it.
A propaganda effort has been made to appeal to male Americans by promoting the meme of "babes of the IDF". For example, the following spread featured in a recent issue of MAXIM magazine:
http://www.maximonline.com/girls_of_maxim/pictures_and_bio/1296/IsraeliDefenseForces.girl?src=dx1
Israeli Defense Forces
They’re drop-dead gorgeous and can take apart an Uzi in seconds. Are the women of the Israeli Defense Forces the world’s sexiest soldiers?
Gal
Expertise: Physical fitness
“I taught gymnastics and calisthenics,” says this flawless former Miss Israel. “The soldiers loved me because I made them fit.”
Yarden
Expertise: Military intelligence
Stationed in northern Israel for her two-year IDF stint, Yarden says target practice was her favorite activity. “I loved shooting the M-16,” she says. “And I was good at hitting the targets. But I haven’t shot anything since I left the army.” Or anyone, we hope.
Nivit
Expertise: Military intelligence
“My job was top secret,” says this Tel Aviv native, who still lives with her parents. “I can’t talk about it other than to say I studied some Arabic!”
Natalie
Expertise: Naval Telecommunications
This beguiling blonde clearly remembers her favorite part of serving her country: “I met my husband. His commander kept trying to set us up.” Lucky for him, Natalie followed orders.
Israeli female legislators are up in arms over their photo shoot. Who knew being in Maxim could cause such a controversy?
http://cdn.maximonline.com/girls/israeli_defense/israeli-defense-gm_l5.jpg
http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=3297502
http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/pd_maxim_070620_ms.jpg
Ambassador Arye Mekel (L), Consul General of Israel in New York, and 2004 Miss Israel winner Gal Gadot attends Maxim's "Women of the Israeli Defense Forces" Celebration at Marquee June 19, 2007 in New York City. (Ray Tamarra/Getty )
Maxim Features Models From Israeli Army
By MATTI FRIEDMAN Associated Press Writer
JERUSALEM Jun 20, 2007 (AP)
A new public relations effort by Israel's New York consulate wants the country known less for its conflict with the Palestinians or for its myriad holy sites than for its beautiful women in uniform. Or, more accurately, out of uniform.
A spread in the upcoming July issue of Maxim features a roster of Israeli models, all ex-soldiers, photographed wearing very little in the cause of their country. Headlined "Women of the Israel Defense Forces," the campaign has already been criticized as inappropriate in Israel.
The Maxim shoot presents Israeli models including Nivit Bash, who served in military intelligence though the only remnant of an army career evident in her photograph on the magazine's Web site is a military-style black cap that matches a minimal swimsuit.
Gal Gadot, a former Miss Israel and army fitness instructor, appears in a bikini and high heels sprawled provocatively on the ledge of a Tel Aviv high-rise. The photo also landed her on the cover of the New York Post below an equally provocative headline, "Piece in the Mideast."
The idea originated in the media office at Israel's consulate in New York, where research showed that Israel meant little to young American men.
"Males that age have no feeling toward Israel one way or another, and we view that as a problem, so we came up with an idea that would be appealing to them," said David Dorfman, a media adviser at the consulate.
Maxim's popularity with that demographic led to the partnership.
"Maxim was approached by the Israeli consulate to be a part of reshaping Israel's public image, specifically because of our unmatched mainstream reach to men aged 18 to 35," the magazine said in a statement. "We are pleased with the result of our work together."
Come on young man, don't you want to prove your manhood to this beautiful woman? You don't want her to think you're a wuss do you? Are you good enough for her?
This meme has been picked up my the blogointernetowankosphere and is being perpetuated through YouTube videos and the like:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/471285/idf_women_in_uniform/
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=46c_1187848390
Seriously, this shit is so blatant sometimes it hurts me to see people not get it. It's always done through the women.
A lot of people have this idea that esotericism and the occult is all about reading tea-leaves, worshipping crystals and stuff like that. That's an understandable impression to get given the amount of bullshit that's out there, and some of the high-level (in the sense of abstraction, not "advanced") stuff can seem like that sometimes too. But once you familiarise yourself with the mythical content of reality, and especially the archetypes, and start to spot them cropping up in the news and coming out of people's mouths via their second hand "opinions", you can start to put the hive mind of our collective cultural soul on the couch and look at what's percolating up from below the surface of the water. Suddenly, this stuff becomes oh-so-easy to spot. You just need to make your unconscious mind conscious, and then other people won't be able to lead you around by it. So wake up!
Thoth
09-13-2007, 04:21 PM
Notice also how the [Tough Guy for Esther] theme/meme goes with [Daddy's little man Tough Guy] to lace together the Jewish-Catholic super-ego complex.
I've been working on this split-reconjunction for some time. Now it's come together with the amazing synchronistic Superbad (the movie) -- basically showing Jewish boys pre-Oedipal hatred of the Mother and the feminine, acting out "bad little boys" trying to achieve inner "maturity" (notice how much "maturity" is being spread out in the media?).... and superdad -- the Russian bomb "four times bigger than the Mother of all bombs". This last blast has totally stolen the thunder of American Male Mystique in the world at large, which has largely rested on the comfortable assumption that if the little bastards made too much trouble we could just blast 'em to oblivion. The mother-defiant vrs. father defiant super-ego complexes, characteristic of Jewish vrs. Catholic parenting mode, merge together to make a virtually impenetrable pro-war group-think mentality. The pathetic "Bible-base" Protestants, if 'religious', are worst of all -- Young Turk cryptos, ready to kill to get BAD GUY
rep-cred points.
I did a thing last night on these Oedipally intertwined fantasy themes. It might be submissible under politics*. Summary:
The URGE to (merge, kill) SURGE anschlauss just rolled out/over the American public by the Repubes was specifically designed to PUMP LIBIDO INTO THE BUSHITES. By thee laws of psychodynamics, latent or explicitly used, this immediately brought POP-UP ENEMY BIN LADEN -- though personally impotent, nevertheless thrilling secret cells of al-Quida operatives all over the world now. UP YOURS, AMERICA!
This was a fine double-shot of bourbon and Jesus. With so much libido/anti-libido opposition in the internal flow of process, its got to spill over into WOMEN in general ("Hillary spews poison on Iraq", says Giuliani), and B-A-A-D GIRLS GONE WILD (as in the movie The Devils). All that libido/anti-libido flowing around, through, from everything we love, and love to touch has poisoned the atmosphere of life, itself, my preacher friend says, and is killing off the sweetness of earth.
Masculine Mystique (repube style) => Glenn Beck supporting* Fred Thompson.)
I got very much out of your elaboration, Ahknaton. I'll try to let it show.
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ADDED TO ALL: LEAVE BRITNY ALONE! I MEAN IT!!
sugartits
09-13-2007, 09:27 PM
I'm reminded of Wylie and 'Momism'
Mom is an American creation. Her elaboration was necessary because she was launched as Cinderella. Past generations of men have accorded to their mothers, as a rule, only such honors as they earned by meritorious action in their individual daily lives. Filial duty was recognized by many sorts of civilizations and loyalty to it has been highly regarded among most peoples. But I cannot think, offhand, of any civilization except ours in which an entire division of living men has been used, during wartime, or at any time, to spell out the word "mom" on a drill field, or to perform any equivalent act.
The adoration of motherhood has even been made the basis of a religious cult, but the mother so worshiped achieved maternity without change in her virgin status--a distinction worthy of contemplation in itself--and she thus in no way resembled mom.
Meanwhile, Megaloid momworship has got completely out of hand. Our land, subjectively mapped, would have more silver cords and apron strings crisscrossing it than railroads and telephone wires. Mom is everywhere and everything and damned near everybody, and from her depends all the rest of the U. S. Disguised as good old mom, dear old mom, sweet old mom, your loving mom, and so on, she is the bride at every funeral and the corpse at every wedding. Men live for her and die for her, dote upon her and whisper her name as they pass away, and I believe she has now achieved, in the hierarchy of miscellaneous articles, a spot next to the Bible and the Flag, being reckoned part of both in a way.
http://www.library.csi.cuny.edu/dept/history/lavender/momism.html
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