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Felix the Cat
01-04-2006, 08:54 AM
Sniper shot that took out an insurgent killer from three quarters of a mile (http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/01/01/wirq01.xml)

Gazing through the telescopic sight of his M24 rifle, Staff Sgt Jim Gilliland, leader of Shadow sniper team, fixed his eye on the Iraqi insurgent who had just killed an American soldier.

His quarry stood nonchalantly in the fourth-floor bay window of a hospital in battle-torn Ramadi, still clasping a long-barrelled Kalashnikov. Instinctively allowing for wind speed and bullet drop, Shadow's commander aimed 12 feet high.

A single shot hit the Iraqi in the chest and killed him instantly. It had been fired from a range of 1,250 metres, well beyond the capacity of the powerful Leupold sight, accurate to 1,000 metres.

"I believe it is the longest confirmed kill in Iraq with a 7.62mm rifle," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, 28, who hunted squirrels in Double Springs, Alabama from the age of five before progressing to deer - and then people.

"He was visible only from the waist up. It was a one in a million shot. I could probably shoot a whole box of ammunition and never hit him again."

Later that day, Staff Sgt Gilliland found out that the dead soldier was Staff Sgt Jason Benford, 30, a good friend.

The insurgent was one of between 55 and 65 he estimates that he has shot dead in less than five months, putting him within striking distance of sniper legends such as Carlos Hathcock, who recorded 93 confirmed kills in Vietnam. One of his men, Specialist Aaron Arnold, 22, of Medway, Ohio, has chalked up a similar tally.

"It was elating, but only afterwards," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, recalling the September 27 shot. "At the time, there was no high-fiving. You've got troops under fire, taking casualties and you're not thinking about anything other than finding a target and putting it down. Every shot is for the betterment of our cause."

All told, the 10-strong Shadow sniper team, attached to Task Force 2/69, has killed just under 200 in the same period and emerged as the US Army's secret weapon in Ramadi against the threat of the hidden Improvised Explosive Device (IED) or roadside bomb - the insurgency's deadliest tactic.

Above the spot from which Staff Sgt Gilliland took his record shot, in a room at the top of a bombed-out observation post which is code-named Hotel and known jokingly to soldiers as the Ramadi Inn, are daubed "Kill Them All" and "Kill Like you Mean it".

On another wall are scrawled the words of Senator John McCain: "America is great not because of what she has done for herself but because of what she has done for others."

The juxtaposition of macho slogans and noble political rhetoric encapsulates the dirty, dangerous and often callous job the sniper has to carry out as an integral part of a campaign ultimately being waged to help the Iraqi people.

With masterful understatement, Lt Col Robert Roggeman, the Task Force 2/69 commander, conceded: "The romantic in me is disappointed with the reception we've received in Ramadi," a town of 400,000 on the banks of the Euphrates where graffiti boasts, with more than a degree of accuracy: "This is the graveyard of the Americans".

"We're the outsiders, the infidels," he said. "Every time somebody goes out that main gate he might not come back. It's still a running gun battle."

Highly effective though they are, he worries about the burden his snipers have to bear. "It's a very God-like role. They have the power of life and death that, if not held in check, can run out of control. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

"Every shot has to be measured against the Rules of Engagement [ROE], positive identification and proportionality."

Staff Sgt Gilliland explains that his Shadow team operates at the "borderlines" of the ROE, making snap judgements about whether a figure in the crosshairs is an insurgent or not.

"Hunters give their animals respect," he said, spitting out a mouthful of chewing tobacco. "If you have no respect for what you do you're not going to be very good or you're going to make a mistake. We try to give the benefit of the doubt.

"You've got to live with it. It's on your conscience. It's something you've got to carry away with you. And if you shoot somebody just walking down the street, then that's probably going to haunt you."

Although killing with a single shot carries an enormous cachet within the sniper world, their most successful engagements have involved the shooting a up to 10 members of a single IED team.

"The one-shot-one-kill thing is one of beauty but killing all the bad dudes is even more attractive," said Staff Sgt Gilliland, whose motto is "Move fast, shoot straight and leave the rest to the counsellors in 10 years" and signs off his e-mails with "silent souls make.308 holes".

Whether Shadow team's work will ultimately make a difference in Iraq is open to question. No matter how many insurgents they shoot, there seems no shortage of recruits to plant bombs.

Col John Gronski, the overall United States commander in Ramadi, said there could not be a military solution. "You could spend years putting snipers out and killing IED emplacers and at the political level it would make no difference."

As they prepare to leave Iraq, however, Staff Sgt Gilliland and his men hope that they have bought a little more time for the country's politicians to fix peace and stability in their sights.

Fade the Butcher
01-06-2006, 12:13 AM
It figures he would be from Alabama.

Jimbo Gomez
01-06-2006, 10:16 AM
I have to admit, it's very impressive.

Niko Bellic
01-07-2006, 12:40 AM
That article made my day.:)

Dances with Wolves
01-07-2006, 05:37 AM
With masterful understatement, Lt Col Robert Roggeman, the Task Force 2/69 commander, conceded: "The romantic in me is disappointed with the reception we've received in Ramadi," a town of 400,000 on the banks of the Euphrates where graffiti boasts, with more than a degree of accuracy: "This is the graveyard of the Americans".


What do you expect fool? You are in someone else's country, illegally. You have killed over 100,000 CIVILIANS. Did you expect a parade in your honor?

Whether Shadow team's work will ultimately make a difference in Iraq is open to question. No matter how many insurgents they shoot, there seems no shortage of recruits to plant bombs.


LOL you gotta be kidding me. I wonder why?


Hey, serious question. Why is the Phora cheering squad leading the cheer for an army of a government that is out to destroy you?

Every shot is a shot fired for Israel. Look at your paycheck lately? The United States Government is stealing from you in support of Israel and Jews everywhere. Do you think this war is for your benefit? Come on, help the simple minded here.

As they prepare to leave Iraq, however, Staff Sgt Gilliland and his men hope that they have bought a little more time for the country's politicians to fix peace and stability in their sights.

Sarge, the only thing you have done is set the stage for another theocratic Islamic state. With each kill you create 10 terrorists, and hungry ones at that. That's a good thing for me though, because I want the government you work for and the society you came from to fucking die.

OVERWATCH
01-07-2006, 06:03 PM
What do you expect fool? You are in someone else's country, illegally. You have killed over 100,000 CIVILIANS. Did you expect a parade in your honor?



LOL you gotta be kidding me. I wonder why?


Hey, serious question. Why is the Phora cheering squad leading the cheer for an army of a government that is out to destroy you?

Every shot is a shot fired for Israel. Look at your paycheck lately? The United States Government is stealing from you in support of Israel and Jews everywhere. Do you think this war is for your benefit? Come on, help the simple minded here.


If we tuck and run from Iraq, that is not only a weakening our our military tradition of excellence, but more importantly Iraq becomes a place not unlike Afghanistan after the Soviets left; a training ground for terrorists.

Terrorist scum setting off radiological contamination(or worse) in the US isn't a good thing for whites at all.

Furthermore, Israel sets a good example as an ethnostate. ALL nationalists should support such a thing, because touchy-feely pluralism and cosmopolitanism is the common enemy of ALL nationalists; furthermore, if white nationalists want to get ridof all their countries' Jews, where would you expect them to go, if not Israel?

Billy Score
01-08-2006, 01:03 AM
if white nationalists want to get ridof all their countries' Jews, where would you expect them to go, if not Israel?

Howabout the bottom of the ocean?

I agree 100% with Dances with Wolves. I hope this sargeant and his whole platoon and every yankee parasite in iraq gets the Nick Berg treatment, even that is to good for this low born scum.

Terrorist scum setting off radiological contamination(or worse) in the US isn't a good thing for whites at all.

The continued existance of the US and European governments as they stand today is a worse thing for whites. I'd rather see a few million offed so that the rest shake up and get their act together then have a large population of whites who are worthless bags of shit. Which is what 99% of whites are. You can't possibly find anything sympathetic about the Europeans, and Americans are .. even worse.

OVERWATCH
01-08-2006, 01:30 AM
What makes people think that, if western civilisation were to collapse, things would be better off for whites then, or in the long run?

If such a thing were to happen, the barbarian masses teeming in the third world would probably rush in to take over.

It's better to stay the course and deal with the problem(s) in more pragmatic ways, than to allow vast swathes of our sagging populations to be slain, and throw the gates open to the mongols.:rolleyes:

Besides, war is good for nationalism, and provides a good excuse for closing the border(s).

Jimbo Gomez
01-08-2006, 09:06 AM
We're in this situation now, the West as a whole that is, better to ride it out now at this point instead of doing as mazdak suggests. I see an important lack of pragmatism among many posters here.

Anarch
01-08-2006, 10:35 AM
That's damn impressive.

Himmler II
01-08-2006, 10:43 AM
What do you expect fool? You are in someone else's country, illegally. You have killed over 100,000 CIVILIANS. Did you expect a parade in your honor?



LOL you gotta be kidding me. I wonder why?


Hey, serious question. Why is the Phora cheering squad leading the cheer for an army of a government that is out to destroy you?

Every shot is a shot fired for Israel. Look at your paycheck lately? The United States Government is stealing from you in support of Israel and Jews everywhere. Do you think this war is for your benefit? Come on, help the simple minded here.



Sarge, the only thing you have done is set the stage for another theocratic Islamic state. With each kill you create 10 terrorists, and hungry ones at that. That's a good thing for me though, because I want the government you work for and the society you came from to fucking die.
You've earned a positive reputation point. :)

Billy Score
01-08-2006, 11:21 PM
We're in this situation now, the West as a whole that is, better to ride it out now at this point instead of doing as mazdak suggests. I see an important lack of pragmatism among many posters here.
Well, your priorities are not mine. While i am against miscegeny and immigration(when it concerns europe), whites are a bunch of effeminate weaklings and they are surrendering themselves to darwinism. I don't sympathize. I would rather create a society of high morals and values then a white society that is morally bankrupt.

Billy Score
01-08-2006, 11:27 PM
What makes people think that, if western civilisation were to collapse, things would be better off for whites then, or in the long run?

If such a thing were to happen, the barbarian masses teeming in the third world would probably rush in to take over.

It's better to stay the course and deal with the problem(s) in more pragmatic ways, than to allow vast swathes of our sagging populations to be slain, and throw the gates open to the mongols.:rolleyes:

Besides, war is good for nationalism, and provides a good excuse for closing the border(s).


Not true. Because the government that we are living under, the so called "civilization" of the west is crumbling and decaying AS A RESULT of the current governments and the current societal trends. These goverments are the ones promoting the things you all fear, the immigration, the miscegeny, etc. An anarchaic scandinavia would be far less welcoming to somalian immigrants than an ultra liberal, effeminate scandinavia brainwashing its citizens into believing that multiculturalism is beautiful.

Niko Bellic
01-08-2006, 11:54 PM
We're in this situation now, the West as a whole that is, better to ride it out now at this point instead of doing as mazdak suggests. I see an important lack of pragmatism among many posters here.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Charles Martel again.


Sanity at last!

For the sake of discussion for as long as this thread goes, I'll give everyone their anti-Iraq arguments. It's all true. Bush did it ALL for Israel, or oil, or whatever your flavor of anti war fervor is.

What now?

Bush fucked up and got us into this with his authority as president, so now what?

Immediate withdrawl, and apology? You haven't seen middle-east chaos until that happens. And the America-hate among arabs would reach new heights, as the people in Iraq who signed on with us get slaughtered. There would also be a new massive invasion of Lebanon by Syria.

Crack down even harder on them, and turn it into a REAL occupation? That's what I'd like to see, for a few years before we turn it back over to them. What do you think would happen with that? It can't happen because the American people don't have the stomach for it.

You may have been against the invasion, but everyone in the West better hope to god we win it.

Ambrosio Spinola
01-09-2006, 12:39 AM
I better start digging my nuclear fallout shelter :p

daisy
01-09-2006, 12:52 AM
they already have alot of muded albino arabs in iraq so i am glad they are going over there helping them. bad parts about it is that it won't be long before those muded albino arabs or their offsprings unexpectedly become albino breeding slaves.