View Full Version : Has anyone watched CSA?
Ambrosio Spinola
01-11-2006, 06:43 AM
I rented yesterday this documentary and was very plesantly surprised when not seeing the usual MSM hatchet job. Pretty funny and even decent what if.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0389828/
http://www.csathemovie.com/
Comments?
Lenny
01-11-2006, 11:42 PM
I haven't seen it, could you give us a summary? I see that the premise is that it is a documentary about American history but in an alternate reality in which the rebels succeeded in destroying the country, and succeeded in protecting and expanding the Southern elites' beloved "peculiar institution". But what do they say happens between the end of the war and the present?
I suppose they say that the rebels won the war by winning at Gettysburg. I doubt that a Confederate victory at Gettysburg would've meant defeat for Union forces, it would've been bad but by no means a knockout punch. What is often not remembered for instance, is that on the very same day as Gettysburg, Vicksburg on the Mississippi river fell to General Grant, which was very decisive in the final defeat of the rebellion as it gave the Union total control of the Mississippi and cut off the Confederate states west of the river from the rest of the CSA, knocking them out of the war
Ambrosio Spinola
01-12-2006, 03:21 AM
The premise is that the Confederacy manages to convince the french and the brits that intervention on their behalf is good and so it happens that both nations send troops that help secure victory. Yet, instead of seceding Davis seeing the big victory he has at hand just decides to anex the rest of the Union to the Confederacy. The story then takes a twist in that the pro-slavery group wins and instead of deporting them nigras back to Africa they actually expand the insitution across the Union and end up taking over the whole hemisphere.
All in all a fairly decent portrayal and one to have some fun watching.
Lenny
01-12-2006, 10:33 PM
The story then takes a twist in that the pro-slavery group wins and instead of deporting them nigras back to Africa they actually expand the insitution across the Union and end up taking over the whole hemisphere.This is not a twist, that is exactly what Slave-Power was interested in, maintaining and expanding slavery.
Thomas777
01-12-2006, 11:16 PM
This is not a twist, that is exactly what Slave-Power was interested in, maintaining and expanding slavery.
It certainly is a twist.
Do you mean to tell me that the CSA intended to conquer the continental USA, centralize governing authority and impose slavery on the Union? Such a program of action is completely foreign to the notion of "confederacy". The CSA was not simply some authoritarian, mirror variant of the USA.
Lenny
01-12-2006, 11:27 PM
It certainly is a twist.
Do you mean to tell me that the CSA intended to conquer the continental USA, centralize governing authority and impose slavery on the Union? Such a program of action is completely foreign to the notion of "confederacy". The CSA was not simply some authoritarian, mirror variant of the USA.According to Ebusitanus' post the twist was that the victorious CSA maintained and expanded slavery, this is what I was replying to. That is no twist at all, it is exactly what they wanted to do, not necessarily in the North but certainly in the West and maybe even into the carribean and mexico
Kodos
01-12-2006, 11:28 PM
It certainly is a twist.
Do you mean to tell me that the CSA intended to conquer the continental USA, centralize governing authority and impose slavery on the Union? Such a program of action is completely foreign to the notion of "confederacy". The CSA was not simply some authoritarian, mirror variant of the USA.
Um the Confederate government was far more oppressive then the union, I like the way it was portrayed in Cold Mountain. We had to implement conscription and an income tax because those cocksuckers did it 1st( and the North mostly conscripted immigrants). They also gave us Woodrow Wilson.
The South is the better and more conservative part of the country now... it wasn't then.
Thomas777
01-12-2006, 11:32 PM
Um the Confederate government was far more oppressive then the union, I like the way it was portrayed in Cold Mountain. We had to implement conscription and an income tax because those cocksuckers did it 1st( and the North mostly conscripted immigrants). They also gave us Woodrow Wilson.
The South is the better and more conservative part of the country now... it wasn't then.
I didn't say that "the South was not oppressive". The fact is that the CSA was not a centrally governed, expansionist power.
The CSA did not go to war so that they could march on Washington and enslave northern Blacks...the CSA went to war because FedGov was becoming an authoritarian leviathan.
Kodos
01-12-2006, 11:37 PM
I didn't say that "the South was not oppressive". The fact is that the CSA was not a centrally governed, expansionist power.
The CSA did not go to war so that they could march on Washington and enslave northern Blacks...the CSA went to war because FedGov was becoming an authoritarian leviathan.
Other then the tariffs it really wasn't, that had to wait( other then during the Civil war) for the neoconfederate Woodrow Wilson to become POTUS. The Federal Reserve, Income Tax etc came down during his watch as well as the 1st drug and labor laws.
Thomas777
01-12-2006, 11:41 PM
Other then the tariffs it really wasn't, that had to wait( other then during the Civil war) for the neoconfederate Woodrow Wilson to become POTUS. The Federal Reserve, Income Tax etc came down during his watch as well as the 1st drug and labor laws.
Other than his racialism, I don't think that Wilson really qualifies as a "neo-confederate". He was a Statist, he hatched the notion of the NWO/world government and had a romantic veneration for the British Empire...all very un-confederate ideas.
Ambrosio Spinola
01-13-2006, 05:59 AM
The idea the the CSA upon ataining its objectives of archiving seccesion would go on and anex the whole Union, conquer the whole of south america only to exand slavery everywhere, open again the African slave routes to get more able hands, etc...is a bit not what I would have thought the South would have done.
Anyways..guys..check the movie-documental out. There is plenty of stuff that will make you crack a smile.
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