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Starr
10-08-2007, 05:36 AM
Colleagues have leapt to the defence of embattled Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews, while Labor admitted to agreeing with the new policy on Sudanese refugees.

Mr Andrews' decision to cut the number of Sudanese refugees coming to Australia was not racially based, Deputy Prime Minister Mark Vaile says.

Mr Andrews has been accused of racism while defending the government's decision last week to cut the quota of Sudanese refugees.

Meanwhile, Labor has admitted to agreeing numbers of African refugees should be cut, but also denies its policy is race-based.

Mr Andrews said the decision had been made due to concerns that they were failing to integrate and were becoming involved in crime.

Mr Vaile said the government's intake of migrants was greater than any other Australian government and it had a choice of who to accept.

"This decision is absolutely not racially based," Mr Vaile told the Nine Network today.

"Every government in Australia's history has always had the opportunity to adjust the mix if you like in the immigration policies of the day to benefit the nation and to benefit the migrants coming in and particularly refugees," Mr Vaile said.

He said he respected the view of Victoria' federal member for Mallee John Forrest that there should be more Sudanese refugees accepted into Australia.

"He comes from an electorate where historically they've always been stretched in terms of getting a solid unskilled workforce if you like to work in their industries in the Sunraysia," Mr Vaile said.

However, Mr Andrews' decision took in the interests of the broader community, he said, despite Labor's insistence the decision was born of incompetence.

Mr Andrews drew accusations of racism earlier this week when he declared Australia had reduced its African refugee intake because some, particularly Sudanese people, were failing to integrate and were becoming more involved in crime.

His statements were totally at odds with his reasons in August for reducing the African intake - namely that Australia needed to accept more refugees from countries like Burma and Iraq and it had already filled its African quota to July 2008.

Labor agreed with the government's decision to cut back the African intake, but immigration spokesman Tony Burke today said he was mystified as to why Mr Andrews' had used this "new rhetoric".

"I don't understand it," Mr Burke told ABC television.

"I've got to say I think with Kevin Andrews you can't look past the possibility of incompetence.
"I don't think you can discount incompetence in him misrepresenting the reasons that have been given."

Asked if he thought the government was playing racist politics, Mr Burke said: "I hope not with something like this, I genuinely hope not.

"I hope they're not dealing with it in that way."

Mr Burke said police, who have disputed Mr Andrews' assertion that Sudanese people are over-represented in crime statistics, were a "more reputable source".

"(Mr Andrews) has provided anecdotal evidence but he hasn't been willing to put publicly or provide directly to the opposition all of that information, he's just put out snippets of information," Mr Burke said.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22545170-662,00.html

dave_931
11-08-2007, 06:26 AM
A decision to cut down on the immigration of a certain ethnic group is not racially based? Ha.

Of course it is, and so what? Racial issues do not have to be connected with notions of hate and bigotry. There is middle ground to 'racial' issues: notions of incompatibility, social incohesion, and the loss or lowest common denominator promotion of culture which accompanies aggrivated and rapid multiculturalism... which are clearly different from sentiments like "my race is better than yours" :viking:

Racial issues should be discussed more widely, if only for the purpose of exposing the logical behind multiculturalism which can only see our world firstly becoming increasingly segregated and isolated for the individual, and then finally the arena of mono-culturalism par excellence.

whydoyouwanttoknow
11-08-2007, 10:04 AM
It's racist when the police of Australia state that the immigration minister is lying and that they are not a problem. It's another Tampa incident.

raven
11-08-2007, 02:09 PM
Here's a better idea than to suggest cutting Sudanese refugees (which is seen as "racist"), cut down on refugees overall. Who needs refugees anyway?

Felix the Cat
11-08-2007, 09:10 PM
What a mess :rofl:

He said he respected the view of Victoria' federal member for Mallee John Forrest that there should be more Sudanese refugees accepted into Australia.

"He comes from an electorate where historically they've always been stretched in terms of getting a solid unskilled workforce if you like to work in their industries in the Sunraysia," Mr Vaile said. This sort of thing can be dealt with by holding the employers of immigrants legally responsible for the crimes they commit

dave_931
11-09-2007, 02:00 AM
Here's a better idea than to suggest cutting Sudanese refugees (which is seen as "racist"), cut down on refugees overall. Who needs refugees anyway?

When you consider that our infastructure like our roads and trains are becoming over packed, our natural resources like water are being depleted + our soil is being salinised, and also that the suburbs continue to spread at an unsustainable rate like wildfire: this would seems to be a valid point to raise even simply from the sustainability point of view. Australia accepted 130,000 immigrants last year apparently, accroding to burue of statistics. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/06/21/1957512.htm

raven
11-09-2007, 02:11 AM
Pretty much. It's not ecologically sustainable development to have mass immigration. I'm not too familiar with Australian politics but I'm sure that politicians justify mass immigration over there because of the low birth rate and the impending shift towards a massive aging demographic right?