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Macrobius
10-12-2007, 03:09 AM
Post your favourites. Here are some primary and secondary sources I enjoy, either specifically on or about the South, or with substantial discussion of the Southern colonies. (Tip o' the hat to Roland for suggesting some recommendations).

For general historical framework, the two sources mentioned in the 'Anglosphere Primer' are fairly on target, at least more than the standard histories:

http://www.pattern.com/bennettj-anglosphereprimer.html

Fischer, David Hackett. Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in North America

Phillips, Kevin. The Cousins’ Wars: Religion, Politics, and the Triumph of Anglo-America, Basic Books, New York.

I also find Jimmy Cantrell's essays (and presumably the books he wrote, but I haven't read them) add necessary balance to these two sources.

There are several collections on the net of Colonial materials, Southern writings, or related to the Revolutionary War or the War Between the States. Some of the more useful are:

http://constitution.org (constitutional law, very broadly)

Virtual Jamestown: http://www.virtualjamestown.org/

The Online Library of Liberty: http://oll.libertyfund.org/

Among the historical documents, Jefferson's Notes on the State of Virginia at OLL, was specifically designed to influence the French favourably, so it is a bit odd in its bias, but indispensable. He mentions two standard histories of Virginia available in his day, Stith and Beverley. Beverly's is available online at Virtual Jamestown, and very much worth a read -- only a quarter of it deals with history.

Jefferson:

http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Fperson=3777&Itemid=28

For a discussion of the politics of America in terms of the Glorious Revolution and the 'Old Whigs', Trevor Colbourn's Lamp of Experience is indispensable:

http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Fperson=3817&Itemid=28

For politics, besides the entire collection at constitution.org, we have specifically the two major works of John C. Calhoun (where are included there I think). There are several nice sites that cover the Anti-Federalists.

I've mentioned before Richard M. Weaver's Southern Tradition at Bay which is one of the few 20th century authors I can recommend.

A bit off-topic but not really are parallel discussions of English history. For a deconstruction of the English patriotic myth (part and parcel of Whiggery), Edwin Jones The English Nation:

http://www.amazon.com/English-Nation-Edwin-Jones/dp/0750925191

J.C.D. Clarke's Revisionist works, esp. both editions of English Society, are key. Among English authors, Samuel Johnson and Burke (in reference to the American Revolution), Disraeli, Gladstone (including his speech supporting the Confederacy) are well-known from Neo-Con or Near-Con writers like Russell Kirk. However, they write from a very Northern perspective, as a rule.

Tucker's Blackstone, though about Law, has an extensive appendix on constitutional issues from a Virginian perspective, and that from the days when the rulings of the Jay and Marshall courts were not yet set in stone, blood, and iron.

http://www.constitution.org/tb/tb-0000.htm

Key: http://www.constitution.org/tb/t1e.htm (Appendix: Note E)

I quote Prof. Ziobro of Holy Cross's site, Classical America, and his online book, repeatedly, in the Classics vs. Romantic context:

http://www.holycross.edu/departments/classics/wziobro/ClassicalAmerica/CA97SYLL.html

Thomas Jefferson and the Classics:

http://www.holycross.edu/departments/classics/wziobro/ClassicalAmerica/JeffersonandClassics.html
http://www.holycross.edu/departments/classics/wziobro/ClassicalAmerica/
http://www.holycross.edu/departments/classics/wziobro/ClassicalAmerica/LtinEAmHP.htm

For Anglicanism, besides the Loyalist and Tory sources at constitution.org, the history of Episcopalian (Cavalier, Non-Juror) dissent in Scotland is important, and one of the best sources is:

http://www.episcopalhistory.org.uk/01tullochgorum.html

'Virginia Churchmanship' of the Anglican, gentry type, is essential background, and who can underestimate 'The Parson's Cause', in which Patrick Henry persecuted the tutor of (get this) future presidents Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe. All I can say is the Maury was one really good teacher.

Finally, we have the large 'DocSouth' collection, which has very interesting points all its own:

Southern Authors, of the first rank, but often suppressed as un-PC:

Thomas Nelson Page: http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/pageolevir/bio.html

John Pendleton Kennedy, esp. Horse-Shoe Robinson: A Tale of the Tory Ascendancy


http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/kennedyhorseshoe/menu.html

Poet Henry Timrod: http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/timrod/menu.html
Esp. his "Ethnogenesis" http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/timrod/timrod.html#timr100

and "Carolina" http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/timrod/timrod.html#timr80

There are many, many others in the author index:

http://docsouth.unc.edu/browse/author/

And the School Textbook collection has an interest all its own:

http://docsouth.unc.edu/global/result.html?term=Education%20--%20Confederate%20States%20of%20America.

A bit of a hodge-podge, but it will save me trouble linking. :)

Macrobius
10-12-2007, 03:14 AM
And no list would be complete without a full listing of the contents of Thomas Jefferson's Library, which he donated the the Library of Congress. Why all these books have not been scanned and placed online is beyond me. Jefferson felt these books, and no others, were most important for us to have. He made a careful list, cataloged them, and purchased them. How many have you read?

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/jefflib.html

The full list:

http://www.loc.gov/catdir/toc/becites/main/jefferson/88607928.toc.html

http://uncpress.unc.edu/FMPro?-DB=pubtest.fmp&-Format=a-detail.html&-RecID=34305&-Script=visited&-Find

Related:
http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=438&Itemid=259

'Top 40' Authors:

1. St. Paul
2. Montesquieu
3. Sir William Blackstone
4. John Locke
5. David Hume
6. Plutarch
7. Cesare Beccaria
8. John Trenchard and Thomas Gordon
9. Delolme
10. Samuel Pufendorf
11. Sir Edward Coke
12. Cicero
13. Thomas Hobbes
14. William Robertson
15. Hugo Grotius
16. Jean-Jacques Rousseau
17. Lord Bolingbroke
18. Francis Bacon
19. Richard Price
20. William Shakespeare
21. Livy
22. Alexander Pope
23. John Milton
24. Tacitus
25. Plato
26. Abbe Guillaume Raynal
27. Abbe Gabriel Mably
28. Niccolo Machiavelli
29. Emmerich de Vattel
30. William Petyt
31. Voltaire
32. John Robinson
33. Algernon Sidney
34. John Somers
35. James Harrington
36. Paul de Rapin-Thoyras

(Link above has hotlinks to many of these)

The Texts They Read

St. Paul

Charles Louis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu (1689-1755)

* Persian Letters (1734)
* Reflections on the Causes of the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire (1734)
* The Spirit of the Laws (1748)

Sir William Blackstone (1723-1780)

* Commentaries on the Laws of England (1765-69)

John Locke (1632-1704)

* An Essay concerning Human Understanding (1690)
* The Two Treatises of Civil Government (1689)
* A Letter on Toleration An Essay concerning Human Understanding (1690s)
* Some Consideraations of the Consequences of the Lowering of Interest and Raising the Value of Money (1691)
* On the Reasonableness of Christianity (1696)

David Hume (1711-1776)

* A Treatise of Human Nature (1739-1740)
* An Inquiry Concerning Human Understanding (1751)
* Treatise: An Enquiry Concerning the Principles of Morals (1751)
* Political Discourses (1752)
* 'History of England(1754-1762)
* The Natural History of Religion (1755)
* Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion (1779)

Plutarch (c. 46-125)

* Roman Lives

Cesare Beccaria (1738-1794)

* An Essay on Crimes and Punishments (1764)

John Trenchard (1662-1723) and Thomas Gordon (?-1750)

* Cato's Letters (1724)
* Trenchard and Walter Moyle (1672-1721), A Short History of Standing Armies iin England (1698)

Jean Louis Delolme (1740-1805)

* The Consitution of England (1771)

Samuel, Baron von Pufendorf (1632-1694)

* Elementa Jurisprudentiae universalis (1661)
* De jure naturae et gentium (1672)

Sir Edward Coke (1552-1634)

* Institutes of the Laws of England (1628-1644)

Cicero (106-43 BC)

* De Legibus
* De Officiis
* De Oratione
* De Republica

Thomas Hobbes (1588-1679)

* Leviathan (1651)

William Robertson (1721-1793)

* History of Scotland (1759)
* History of the Reign of the Emperor Charles V (1769)
* History of America (1777)

Hugo Grotius (1583-1645)

* On the Law of War and Peace (1625)

Jean-Jacques Rousseau (1712-1778)

* Discourse on the Origin of the Inequality of Men (1754)
* The Social Contract (1762)
* Emile (1762)

Henry St. John, Viscount Bolingbroke (1678-1751)

* The Freeholder's Political Catechism (1733)
* A Dissertation Upon Parties (1735)
* Remarks on the history of England (1743)
* The Idea of a Patriot King (1749)
* A Letter on the Spirit of Patriotism (1749)
* Letters on the Study and Use of History (1752)

Francis Bacon (1561-1626)

* The Advancement of Learning (1605)
* Novum organum (1620)
* De argumentis scientarum (1623)
* Essays (1625)
* The New Atlantis (1627)

Richard Price (1723-1791)

* Observations on the Nature of Civil Liberty (1776)
* Observations on the Importance of the American Revolution (1784)

William Shakespeare (1564-1616)

Titus Livius (Livy) (59BC - AD17)

* History of Rome

Alexander Pope (1688-1744)

* The Dunciad (1728)
* Of False Taste (1731)
* Of the Uses of Riches (1732)
* An Essay on Man (1733-34)

John Milton (1608-1674)

* The Ready and Easy Way to Establish a Free Commonwealth (1660)

Tacitus (c. 56-120)

* History of Germany
* The Histories

Coxe

Plato (c. 427-347 BC)

Abbe Guillaume Raynal (1713-1796)

* Philosophical and Political History of ... the East and West Indies (1770)

Abbe Gabriel Mably (1709-1785)

* Observations on the Romans (1740)
* Observations on the Government and Laws of the U.S. (1784)

Niccolo Machiavelli (1469-1527)

* Discourses on the First Ten Books of Livy (1531)
* The Prince (1532)

Emerich de Vattel (1714-1767)

* The Law of Nations (1759-1760)

William Petyt (1636-1707)

* The Antient Right of the Commons of England Asserted (1680)

Francois Arouet de Voltaire (1694-1778)

* Letters on the English Nation (1733)
* Works (1751)
* General History and State of Europe (1756)

John Robinson (1575-1625)

Algernon Sidney (1622-1683)

* Discourses Concerning Government (1698)

John Somers (1651-1716)

* Vox populi, vox dei: Judgement of Kingdooms and Nations Concerning the Rights, Privileges, and Properties of the People (1709)

James Harrington (1611-1677)

* Oceana (1656)

Paul de Rapiin-Thoyras (1661-1725)

* History of England (1726-31)

Burrhus
10-12-2007, 01:50 PM
http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/pageolevir/bio.html

Is it any wonder that this website of Southern documents does not have Thomas Nelson Page's The Negroe: the Southerner's Problem, Defense of Virginia by Robert Dabney or Lectures on the Philosophy and Practise of Slavery by William Smith?

Not PC. My library has them but they don't circulate.

Macrobius
10-14-2007, 03:25 AM
http://books.google.com/books?id=xxd451POnpYC&pg=PA97&lpg=PA97&source=web&ots=dtmLUBAI-B&sig=SwGSdR4d8eNTxJTKvNuHisIJqzA#PPP10,M1

Southern Writers: A New Bibliography.

Probably PC, as it is publishable, and the google ebook has only extracts. However, it has a long list of authors with dates.

Roland
10-14-2007, 03:29 AM
Many thanks.:dance2:

Macrobius
10-21-2007, 02:07 AM
http://docsouth.unc.edu/southlit/pageolevir/bio.html

Is it any wonder that this website of Southern documents does not have Thomas Nelson Page's The Negroe: the Southerner's Problem, Defense of Virginia by Robert Dabney or Lectures on the Philosophy and Practise of Slavery by William Smith?

Not PC. My library has them but they don't circulate.

http://books.google.com/books?lr=&as_brr=0&q=%22thomas+nelson+page%22&btnG=Search+Books

I haven't checked Dabney, but the 'The Negroe' is at google books, as is 'Befo' de War: Echoes in Negro Dialect' -- search above.

Macrobius
10-21-2007, 03:53 AM
This book, Southern Literature from 1579-1895 is a school text from the 19th century, but lists many authors and books of interest.

http://books.google.com/books?id=F_gnAAAAMAAJ

Burrhus
10-22-2007, 10:47 PM
http://books.google.com/books?lr=&as_brr=0&q=%22thomas+nelson+page%22&btnG=Search+Books

I haven't checked Dabney, but the 'The Negroe' is at google books, as is 'Befo' de War: Echoes in Negro Dialect' -- search above.

Thank you....

Macrobius
12-23-2007, 11:42 PM
Cross-posting last year's OD link about Christmas in the ante-bellum South. Repeats some of the above books, but with extracts and discussion pertinent to the season.

http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441&highlight=Christmas

Macrobius
08-29-2008, 07:16 AM
Basil Gildersleeve's 'Creed of the Old South' and 'A Southerner in the Peloponnesian War'

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24281/24281-h/24281-h.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Gildersleeve

Mailman
05-05-2011, 02:16 AM
http://www.dabneyarchive.com/