Lucian Bute beats A. Berrio, Whites Hold 16 of 20 Middleweight & Up Boxing Titles!

[Count Sudoku]

On October 19 11:30pm EST Lucian Bute a white Romanian boxer and boxing out of Montreal Canada wins by TKO in 11th round over A. Berrio a darkie from Columbia and captures the IBF Super Middleweight Title. Whites hold all middleweight, super middleweight and heavyweight belts and 3 Light Heavyweight belts and 1 Cruiserweight belt for a total of 16 of 20 middleweight and up belts.

Lucian Bute is now 21 and 0 with 17 KOs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reigning_boxing_champions

[Fallen King]

And the media tells us that "Americans are no longer interested in boxing"...

Yeah, now that there's no American blacks for the press to fawn over.

Makes me sick that they won't even show us these great fighters on American TV.

:viking:

[Count Sudoku]

Good. I have another clip to add to my compilation of white boxers knocking out black It is much less fun when they win by decision like the Holyroid fight last week.

[Count Sudoku]

Here is the money shot(s) that I'm sure some people here would enjoy seeing.

This was a particularly brutal KO.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o267/realpiggy/buteberrio.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk1j-0cM7LI

[Warka]

Here is the money shot(s) that I'm sure some people here would enjoy seeing.

This was a particularly brutal KO.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o267/realpiggy/buteberrio.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk1j-0cM7LI

Awesome KO. Thanks for this.

[raven]

Brutal TKO. That Hispanic Nigga got KTFO. Now before someone comments that the beaners dominate the lower divisions, keep in mind that it's because they are smaller than white people. As long as white people are dominating the heavyweight division and most of the belts middle-weight on up, the powers that be will continue to say that "boxing is dead" and not promote the sport well enough so as long as they don't have their Negro posterboy. It's great that Europeans are taking back boxing. Now let's re-take our position in MMA. Let's hope that Rich Franklin beats Anderson Silva for the UFC Middleweight (185 lb) title tonight. The media loves to demasculate men of European descent when it comes to promoting sports but when things don't go there way and Europeans (especially Eastern Europeans) over-represent themselves among boxing's elite, they proclaim that the sport is dead. Coincidence? I think not!

The image of the "Buck Nigger Athlete" is put on a pedestal in America. When White American college football coaches pimp out their daughters to Black Highschool football stars to get them to play for their college team (yes this has happened), this is very much evident. That's why I can't help but laugh at these fools who cheered for that Boise State mulatto footballer but then sent him death threats when they found out he made it out with a white cheerleader. If you don't want that shit to happen, don't empower black athletes by cheering for them because if a white woman sees a white man cheering on a black athlete/rapper and idolizing him, how do you expect her not to say, "OMG! I love Kobe Bryant! Black guyz are so hott! I think I'm going to rebel against mommy and daddy by getting knocked up by a black guy , get stuck carting around mulattoes after he leaves me and ruin the rest of my life!" I'd rather see my "home team" (as If I'm supposed to give a shit. For eg. I do not cheer for Blacks in the World Cup. Period. I just don't. They should be playing in some African team, not on European national teams.) lose than cheer on a Negro superstar. That's why individual sports like boxing and MMA are great. There's no "home team", you can just cheer based on the individual.

[Count Sudoku]

You sound like you've read this website

http://www.castefootball.us/

I agree with everything you've said. I don't really care that much about sports but I do enjoy seeing negroes lose.

Not that I know much about MMA but unfortunately I doubt Silva will lose tonight.

Just a small update, Felix Strum (the weakest white middleweight champion) fought to a draw today and kept his title. So Whites still hold 16 of 20 major middleweight and up championships.

[harjit]

I agree with everything you've said. I don't really care that much about sports but I do enjoy seeing negroes lose.
So you admit that you have an emotional bias against negroes, that goes beyond just dryly posting articles and statistics on this board.

I mean, of course that is the case, anyone can spot it a mile away. But I applaud your honesty in admitting it. Most people here don't seem to.

[raven]

In MMA news, Rich Franklin vs. Anderson Silva is going on right now. Looks like Silva is winning. Damn. Tim Sylvia just won a decision against the eurasian Brandon Vera. Everyone was hyping up Vera saying he was going to win and he didn't. :D

EDIT: Oh shit Silva won. Dammit. I was hoping Rich would win but I just don't think he has what it takes to beat Anderson Silva. The Middleweight division is weak. Dan Henderson needs to drop to 185 to face Anderson Silva for the title because I don't see anyone else challenging Silva for the belt now.

[Count Sudoku]

So you admit that you have an emotional bias against negroes, that goes beyond just dryly posting articles and statistics on this board.

Are you kidding? Just for fun, please define "emotional bias".

I mean, of course that is the case, anyone can spot it a mile away. But I applaud your honesty in admitting it. Most people here don't seem to.

Like who?

[Count Sudoku]

In MMA news, Rich Franklin vs. Anderson Silva is going on right now. Looks like Silva is winning. Damn. Tim Sylvia just won a decision against the eurasian Brandon Vera. Everyone was hyping up Vera saying he was going to win and he didn't. :D

EDIT: Oh shit Silva won. Dammit. I was hoping Rich would win but I just don't think he has what it takes to beat Anderson Silva. The Middleweight division is weak. Dan Henderson needs to drop to 185 to face Anderson Silva for the title because I don't see anyone else challenging Silva for the belt now.

Yes, that obnoxious negro is good. There's probably only a few who could possibly beat him. That's why I didn't put much hope in Rich winning.

[harjit]

EDIT: Oh shit Silva won. Dammit. I was hoping Rich would win but I just don't think he has what it takes to beat Anderson Silva. The Middleweight division is weak. Dan Henderson needs to drop to 185 to face Anderson Silva for the title because I don't see anyone else challenging Silva for the belt now.
Raven look on the bright side.

If we just go by names, we can say the Porkchop defeated the Caker. You are a name-race-traitor for supporting Rich. :D

[Count Sudoku]

Raven look on the bright side.

If we just go by names, we can say the Porkchop defeated the Caker. You are a name-race-traitor for supporting Rich. :D

Sorry Harjit, I edited a previous response, could you read it again in case you missed it?

[harjit]

Are you kidding? Just for fun, please define "emotional bias".
My intent was simply a polite way to say "intense dislike", or possibly "hate" (although the best authority on Count Sudoku is, of course, the Count himself).

Like who?
I just haven't seen it much, then again I haven't asked much either.

[Count Sudoku]

My intent was simply a polite way to say "intense dislike", or possibly "hate" (although the best authority on Count Sudoku is, of course, the Count himself).

While I do hate some blacks (Like the Jena 6) I don't hate all blacks or "hate" them in general (these feelings do fluctuate with my personal exposure to the joys of diversity). I do get aggravated by all the grief they cause other white people and indirectly myself. I would prefer physical and political separation from non-whites as it would improve my quality of life.

[harjit]

While I do hate some blacks (Like the Jena 6) I don't hate all blacks or "hate" them in general (these feelings do fluctuate with my personal exposure to the joys of diversity). I do get aggravated by all the grief they cause other white people and indirectly myself. I would prefer physical and political separation from non-whites as it would improve my quality of life.
You're in Toronto, right? I'd be curious to hear more about the unfavourable interactions you have there with non-whites. (Not to debate, just interested in hearing where it comes from).

[Morpheus]

It's great that Europeans are taking back boxing. Now let's re-take our position in MMA. Let's hope that Rich Franklin beats Anderson Silva for the UFC Middleweight (185 lb) title tonight.....

EDIT: Oh shit Silva won. Dammit. I was hoping Rich would win but I just don't think he has what it takes to beat Anderson Silva. The Middleweight division is weak. Dan Henderson needs to drop to 185 to face Anderson Silva for the title because I don't see anyone else challenging Silva for the belt now.

LMAO! :rofl:

He stood no chance. Silva looked like he was toying with Franklin. He beat him up so badly that his nose and hand were re-broken, sending him to the hospital after the fight and he is considering retirement.

I predicted this outcome to a tee on Sherdog some time ago.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?p=17928739#post17928739

Franklin has alot to prove in this fight. Let's face it, Anderson Silva has been on an absolute tear since before he even entered the Octagon. The last time someone truly stopped him was Ryo Chonan, who outstruck him for 3 rounds and pulled that insane Flying Leg Scissors Heel Hook. Even Okami, his last technical loss, was getting pulverized until Anderson KO'd him with an illegal upkick and got DQ'd.

That fight too shows his dominance. Look at the track record since Chonan:

- He KO'd Jorge Rivera

- He KO'd Curtis Stout

- He KO'd Tony Fryklund

- He KO'd Chris Leben

- He KO'd Rich himself

- He submitted Travis Lutter

- He KO'd Nathan Marquardt

All except for two of those fights ended in the 1st Round.

Rich beat Macdonald and is coming off a lackluster victory over Okami, none of which shows his potential to take on Silva. I think he is going to get embarrassed in front of his home town. He has alot more to worry about than the Thai clinch. Anderson's crisp, accurate jabs that crushed Leben are also deadly. He has so many weapons. Even taking him to the ground does not guarantee success, as Lutter and Marquardt learned.

I think Anderson is going to hold that belt for awhile and Rich is going to fade into obscurity.

This is really the defining bout of his career when you think about it. He is going to have to show alot of improvement against Silva if he wants to be UFC MW champion again.

I think he will give it his best effort, coming in with a better gameplan, but I don't see him surviving 2 Rounds, if one.

I have a lot of respect for Franklin. He was very gracious in defeat, raising Silva's hand and urging the crowd not to boo him. Silva was very humble in victory himself. There was a tremendous show of class and mutual respect by both of them after the fight. Very good sportmanship.

And that's the thing. You guys on here with your racist tirades, cheering on fighters because you hate the ethnicity of their opponent have no respect for the actual sport. The truth is that Rich Franklin would not appreciate you Raven or Count Sudoku as fans of his. If you were to speak or write to him and show him this thread he would want nothing to do with you or your "support".

Boxing is dead. It has been in decline for many years because of corrupt promoters and poor marketing. The talent pool is shot. Saying so has nothing to do with Eastern European fighters moving up in rank. Most experts agree and list the facts:

Boxing: Heavyweight Boxing's Gradual Decline (http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/10-1-2005-77954.asp)

The idea that the predominately White employed, American media is involved in a conspiracy to emasculate the image of White men through promotion of non-White athletes is utter lunacy. Brett Favre is the talk of the NFL right now, even though the Packers are only doing decent and not the top team in the league. He's making a good account of himself, in the twilight of his career, and getting paid his due respect in the media.

Steve Nash is a two-time NBA MVP.

I believe that White racist guys who play racial cheerleaders for White athletes and complain about the media giving talented non-White athletes attention are insecure about their own masculinity. Raven, Sudoku, have you guys even played organized sports?

Anderson Silva is one of my favorite fighters. But I don't cheer for him because he is Black. I would personally like to see Frank Shamrock and Cung Le give him a run for his money. Dan Henderson and Paulo Filho are likely the only fighters in a position to take the belt from him, but Filho is in the WEC and Dan does not want to drop to 185.

The MW division is not the strongest but it would not make a difference. Silva was voted by Sherdog as the best Pound for Pound fighter in all of MMA and for good reason. He is nearly unstoppable.

The guy was a true gentleman last night but of course racists do not judge people by their character.

[Count Sudoku]

LMAO! :rofl:

He stood no chance. Silva looked like he was toying with Franklin. He beat him up so badly that his nose and hand were re-broken, sending him to the hospital after the fight and he is considering retirement.

I predicted this outcome to a tee on Sherdog some time ago.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?p=17928739#post17928739

Yes, that obnoxious negro is good.

I have a lot of respect for Franklin. He was very gracious in defeat, raising Silva's hand and urging the crowd not to boo him. Silva was very humble in victory himself. There was a tremendous show of class and mutual respect by both of them after the fight. Very good sportmanship.

And that's the thing. You guys on here with your racist tirades, cheering on fighters because you hate the ethnicity of their opponent have no respect for the actual sport. The truth is that Rich Franklin would not appreciate you Raven or Count Sudoku as fans of his. If you were to speak or write to him and show him this thread he would want nothing to do with you or your "support".

It's not about supporting white athletes. It's about seeing negro fans who automatically root for the black guy over the white one (of course that's not racist in the least) being disappointed when their "heroes" (no matter how scummy they are like Michael Vick or those Jena 6 douches) lose. Apparently when Pavlik KOed Taylor almost out of the blue, one report from a bar filled with blacks stated that "it became so quiet that you could hear a mouse piss on a marshmallow".

On that particular KO much enjoyment was had by myself by focusing on the faces of blacks in the crowd as their hero collapsed into near unconsciousness.

Furthermore, it is always nice to have the Jews' plans of portraying all white men as nerdy effeminate fags hit a speed bump.

Boxing is dead. It has been in decline for many years because of corrupt promoters and poor marketing. The talent pool is shot. Saying so has nothing to do with Eastern European fighters moving up in rank. Most experts agree and list the facts:

Boxing: Heavyweight Boxing's Gradual Decline (http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/10-1-2005-77954.asp)

Because none of this was true when blacks ruled boxing.

The idea that the predominately White employed, American media is involved in a conspiracy to emasculate the image of White men through promotion of non-White athletes is utter lunacy.

Those "whites" are mainly jooooos.

http://www.castefootball.us/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6342&PN=2

If posters here express their dislike of the attitude expressed toward white boxers by certain people in the media, that's not "Jew bashing".

Every time Wladimir Klitschko's name comes up to Teddy Atlas, he gets into Klitschko bashing and the "state of the heavyweight division". Whenever Max Kellerman talks about white fighters, he discredits them, always saying their wins are meaningless because their opponents were "shot" or their opposition was bad or something like that. Two years ago when he was on ESPN, Kellerman said that it was too bad Wlad beat Peter, since he was hoping they would be "rid of one of the Klitschkos". Don Wetzel does the same, although he's somewhat more subtle in his discrediting white boxers.

I would love to hear a Jewish sportcaster or sportswriter JUST ONCE come out with a few positive words about a white boxer, but it never happens. It's not Jew bashing that's a problem, it's the "white athlete bashing" from Kellerman and others that we've been discussing here.

As far as the white Muslim boxers from the former USSR, none of them are "Arabs". Sultan Ibragimov and Denis Boytsov are white people like us, who just follow a different religion, and they don't hate the US or hate other white people at all. Sultan seems like a decent guy with good values.

Brett Favre is the talk of the NFL right now, even though the Packers are only doing decent and not the top team in the league. He's making a good account of himself, in the twilight of his career, and getting paid his due respect in the media.

Steve Nash is a two-time NBA MVP.

I believe that White racist guys who play racial cheerleaders for White athletes and complain about the media giving talented non-White athletes attention are insecure about their own masculinity. Raven, Sudoku, have you guys even played organized sports?

No, I am insecure about my two inch dicklet.

Anderson Silva is one of my favorite fighters. But I don't cheer for him because he is Black. I would personally like to see Frank Shamrock and Cung Le give him a run for his money. Dan Henderson and Paulo Filho are likely the only fighters in a position to take the belt from him, but Filho is in the WEC and Dan does not want to drop to 185.

The MW division is not the strongest but it would not make a difference. Silva was voted by Sherdog as the best Pound for Pound fighter in all of MMA and for good reason. He is nearly unstoppable.

The guy was a true gentleman last night but of course racists do not judge people by their character.

Actually we do. You antis live in a dreamworld where you think "racists" hate blacks because of their skin color. No, we "hate" them because of their actions.

[raven]

And that's the thing. You guys on here with your racist tirades, cheering on fighters because you hate the ethnicity of their opponent have no respect for the actual sport. The truth is that Rich Franklin would not appreciate you Raven or Count Sudoku as fans of his. If you were to speak or write to him and show him this thread he would want nothing to do with you or your "support".

The guy was a true gentleman last night but of course racists do not judge people by their character.I don't "hate" Anderson Silva for his ethnicity. I cheer in favour of Rich Franklin because I mostly cheer for the white guy over the black but I don't "hate" Anderson Silva. The Blacks almost always cheer in favour of the Black guy so why not? White lemmings cheer enough for Blacks as is and they don't need anymore. That's why white men are demasculated in society. The Spider seems to be a lot more reasonably mannered and behaved than many of the Black American athletes out there. While Brazil is a very violent country, the Brazilians don't have that same street thug culture popular with Black Americans.


Boxing is dead. It has been in decline for many years because of corrupt promoters and poor marketing. The talent pool is shot. Saying so has nothing to do with Eastern European fighters moving up in rank. Most experts agree and list the facts:

Boxing: Heavyweight Boxing's Gradual Decline (http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/10-1-2005-77954.asp)So when Eastern Europeans dominate boxing you say that the talent pool is dried up? Are you saying that the Eastern Euro heavyweight champs and other champs are not talented and worthy of having their belts? Or is the champ only worthy when it's a black guy like Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis or Mayweather?


The idea that the predominately White employed, American media is involved in a conspiracy to emasculate the image of White men through promotion of non-White athletes is utter lunacy. Brett Favre is the talk of the NFL right now, even though the Packers are only doing decent and not the top team in the league. He's making a good account of himself, in the twilight of his career, and getting paid his due respect in the media.

Steve Nash is a two-time NBA MVP.Quarterbacks are mostly white. Nash is getting the respect he deserves as a talented white man amongst a bunch of black thugs (and you know that the NBA has a problem with unprofessional thuggish blacks players. The league needs to clean its image.) You know as well as I do that the NFL and NBA as well as NCAA football and basketball are purposely guided overall to appeal to Blacks and exclude Whites because the executives (predominately liberal and Jewish) actively promote the image of the "buck nigger athlete."

Even though there are many 'po white folk out there (people always say there are more black athletes because blacks are poor and athletes are more likely to come from poor backgrounds), you still don't see a lot of white farm boys like Larry Byrd getting into the NBA anymore or good 'ol white folk getting into the NFL unless they are a quarterback (a more tactical position that doesn't fit the "buck nigger athlete" image like a Wide Receiver or Running Back). It's because the system favours black athletes and preferentially gives them scholarships. The craze to promote the "buck nigger athlete" is so widespread that NCAA football coaches have even pimped out their white daughters (yes this has happened) to highschool black athletes to get them to play for their college. That is how degenerate American sports has become. And at the same time minorities cry about the NHL being racist since most players are white even though the NBA is almost 80% Black and the NFL is 65% Black and you never hear a peep about the exclusion of whites in these sports.

But of course professional sports are just bread and circus. They don't matter in the big picture. In America, white (disproportionately Jewish) executives are in power. Blacks are basically just there to fit the "buck nigger" persona and nothing more, whether it be in athletics, movie entertainment or hip hop. You may believe that this is a position of power for your people but in the end, the elites at the top just sees your kind as "buck niggers" just like when your kind worked on the plantations for the very same ruling class. The only real threat to whites in society are white liberals (disproportionately Jewish. Note: Neo-cons are really just right-wing liberals). You Blacks are being played like a fiddle by white liberals (disproportionately Jewish) and you willingly allow that to gain a false sense of "power" over the white man. And when Blacks shit their pants when they see their only sense of power being taken away from them (losing to whitey in professional sports like boxing), it's hilarious.

I believe that White racist guys who play racial cheerleaders for White athletes and complain about the media giving talented non-White athletes attention are insecure about their own masculinity. Raven, Sudoku, have you guys even played organized sports?So you believe that professional sports are the only measure of masculinity? How about the ability to raise a child? That's something a very disproportionate amount of black fathers unfortunately don't know how to do since many black children are raised without a father. Would you say those "men" are masculine?


The MW division is not the strongest but it would not make a difference. Silva was voted by Sherdog as the best Pound for Pound fighter in all of MMA and for good reason. He is nearly unstoppable.Fedor is the best. I don't know why they are giving Silva such an honor so prematurely.

[Count Sudoku]

You're in Toronto, right? I'd be curious to hear more about the unfavourable interactions you have there with non-whites. (Not to debate, just interested in hearing where it comes from).

I would just like to clarify my "racism" with an essay written by someone else that pretty much represents my own position and the position I think other "racists" should adopt.

"Their Only Weapon"

http://westernsurvival.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_archive.html

Thursday, June 01, 2006

Their Only Weapon

A correspondent on Lawrence Auster's site, commenting on republican Arkansas

Governor Huckabee's feeling that racism is fueling the anti-immigration
sentiment, wrote:

"All he has to do is stand up there, give one inane comment after another
and use the word that puts trembling in the hearts of the American people
and shut them down. Racist."

A cartoon I saw recently showed a Mexican-flag-waving illegal snarling at a
white man, saying something like "Let me into your prosperous country, you
damned racist xenophobe." It captured perfectly the dynamic involved in the
immigration debate: people who have no leverage other than guilt are using
it to control us.

What are they going to do the day that white people stop running from that word, "racist"?

I have begun, among my white friends, to acknowledge that I am a racist. I say, "If by racist, you mean that I think there are actual differences, genetic differences, between racial groups that have real consequences, then yes I am a racist. If you mean that I feel more of an affinity for people of my ethnic group, that I feel more comfortable and at home with them, then yes I am a racist. If you mean I put the interests of my people, my ethnic group, ahead of the interests of others just as I put my family's interests over others, then yes I am a racist. But if by "racist" you mean someone who believes in genocide or slavery or hatred or oppression of other ethnic groups, then no, I am not a racist."

I sense that many white people have had enough of being bullied with the
"racist" label. But there are two ways of handling that accusation. One is
to claim that you're not actually a racist. This is the approach most whites
take right now, but it hands all of the power over to the non-white person,
who can then act as judge and jury on the evidence to decide whether the
white person is a racist or not. The other approach is to say, "yeah, I'm a
racist; so what?" There is no answer to that. If you prefer your own people
and put their interests ahead of others' without engaging in hatred or
violence, what's it to them?

Perhaps the non-whites and liberals are flinging the "racist" accusation
with such vehemence because they sense that the white majority is losing
patience. Their one tool, their one way of controlling white people, is
losing its efficacy, so they ramp up the volume and the bitterness to try to
keep the upper hand. Their worst nightmare is that white people stop
flinching at the word because that will be the day that anti-whites (both
non-whites and whites who scorn whiteness) lose their only weapon.

But while we need to assert that we, like every other healthy people on
earth, are indeed "racists", what we want to avoid this time is letting the
pendulum swing back the other way into hatred. We don't want another Hitler.

We don't want burning crosses. We don't want oppression and injustice. We
just want to assert our right to survive as a distinct people and to
separate ourselves physically and politically from those who threaten our
safety, prosperity, and unique identity.

[Fallen King]

Anderson Silva is a well trained latecomer to Muay Thai and MMA, styles of Martial Arts invented by Aryans in India, taught to Asians, and then rediscovered by Western Aryans.

Ramon Dekker: Muay Thai Legend

"He fought them all, under their homeland under their rules... and he beat them."

"First foreign fighter to get the 'Fighter of The Year' Award in Thailand."

"The Diamond"

"The Turbine From Hell"

200+ fights, 190 wins, 90+ ko's

Videos of Dekker highlights:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=M3R4xtjl5b4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2F0CTEcVPm8&mode=related&search=

[Fallen King]

Martial Arts came from Aryan Buddhists such as Buddha and Bodhidharma.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies

http://humanecology.com.au/spiritmarts.htm

The Spirit of Marial Arts

The origin of martial arts is unclear. Buddhist statuary dating from the 1st Century BC indicates that the source was in India from where it travelled to Western China with Buddhism. There were forms of martial arts practiced in ancient Greece and in the Olympics there was an event known as the ‘pancratium’ in which contestants were not allowed to bite or gouge but could do everything else (hitting, strangling, limb twisting). The pancratium gave rise to western wrestling. There was also a form of ancient boxing in which contestants had their fists wrapped in hide and were allowed to punch and were prohibited from throwing or kicking. This gave rise to western boxing. In ancient Japan sumo was the first martial art (c.29BC Emperor Suinin) and continues to this day.

As we know them today martial arts commenced with Bodhidharma (known in Japanese as Daruma Daishi) who was the 28th Buddhist Patriarch after Sakyamuni. His predecessor was Prajnatara.

After the death of Prajnatara, Bodhidharma remained in India for some years then news came back from the East. The news concerned misinterpretation of scriptures and upon learning this he resolved to correct the teachings. Bodhidharma travelled to the Kingdom of Liang in Western China probably around the 5th century. This kingdom was ruled by Emperor Wu (China then comprised several kingdoms each with its own Emperor) who was a noted scholar and one who supported the newly arrived Buddhist Teachings. He was welcomed in the capital of Chin -lung by Emperor Wu who had, over the previous decade, commissioned the building of several temples devoted to Buddha. He also translated the Teachings into Chinese and the temples became training grounds for priests and monks attracted to the new philosophy.

At that time the Chinese of Liang were highly formalistic. They constructed ornate temples, monasteries and Pagodas; burnt incense, practiced sacred dancing and chanted the scriptures. However the Chinese believed these practices were for the liberation of the soul after death and so upon his arrival Bodhidharma was bound to conflict with the Emperor. For Buddhists the point of practice is to achieve enlightenment in this life. Lord Buddha was a man who achieved enlightenment, he was not a divinity. Upon this theological difference the two men would never agree and the outcome was that Bodhidharma was expelled from the kingdom. He travelled north to the kingdom of Wei and in the capital of Lo-yang he took shelter in the monastery of Shao-lin –ssu. Legend has it that he knelt facing a cliff and remained in meditation for nine years apparently suffering the loss of the use of his arms and legs. We see that from India also came the practice of yoga which the Chinese called Ch’an (from the Sanskrit dhyani meaning meditation) and which became known later in Japan as Zen.

The basis of Bodhidharma’s teaching was that the body and spirit were united and only when the two were united and the body prepared in discipline could the practitioner achieve Buddha hood. He brought with him from India two texts on military arts, the I-chin-ching and the Hsien-sui-ching. The former was a practical guide and formed the basis of the Shao-lin–ssu martial arts.
As the Emperor Wu waged his dissatisfaction against Bodhidharma the Shao-lin monasteries were sacked and the priest scattered in much the same manner as the current spread of Tibetan Buddhism which has resulted from the 1948 to current time invasion of Tibet by the Chinese Government.

Thus the Shao-lin –ssu methods were carried to the Korean peninsula, and thence to Japan, Mongolia and the southern, eastern and northern regions of China where they were adapted to suit the local conditions and physiques. For instance the southern Chinese were boating and river people who relied on wet rice farming. They were slim of built and use their upper bodies (rowing, bending to plant…) so their style became the fast boxing styles whereas in the North the larger Han Chinese (dry land farmers who relied on foot for transport and engaged in hunting) developed stronger standing styles utilising kicks and leg techniques. The Mongolians, dependent upon horse transport, developed wide (horse-stance) styles. In Manchu in the west the style was based on the fighting methods of animals and birds. Thus the proliferation of styles of martial arts came about.

After the death of Bodhidharma martial arts became separated from the Buddhist teachings and developed into warlike techniques used for overcoming enemies. However a few isolated priests and practitioners managed to retain the intent of the unification of body and spirit and this has survived to this day. Today students may learn martial arts for combat without spirit or they can learn martial arts to prepare for self development. This latter aspect is what I wish to explicate now.

So we practice and practice, many years of hard training until the discipline itself is a part of us and we can execute what is necessary without thought. This is close to the Buddhist notion of "Beginner’s Mind" or "Empty Mind". And this is exactly what we have to do to first notice and then act upon our habits, mores, customs and selective memory. Its starts slowly and after some effort we discover that there is a habit. We find that our attitude is not ours at all but one we got from our parents through osmosis. So we grasp that perception and recognise the habit. Then we can set about changing it. It is the same with custom. If you want to see how your inherited custom affects you then go to a foreign country, somewhere with a different language and cultural practice. There your custom will show clearly because there is something opposite to compare it with. For example in the West the drinking of alcohol is a cultural practice. It is lawful and in many households the children, upon reaching a certain age, are allowed to participate with the adults in having a beer or a glass of wine. Now that child grows and goes to a Muslim country. Suddenly alcohol is not permitted so the person can clearly see their cultural preference. (It is usually via opposites that we define ourselves. We are not homosexual so we must be heterosexual. We are not Caucasian or Chinese so we must be Negroid . A boy at adolescence sees he is not a girl and so he must be a boy.)

Gradually we come to recognise our habits and unconscious practices inherited from our family of origin or local culture. Zen is marvellous at helping us to recognise such traits because it attacks habit wherever they arise. When I was in the Dojo in Japan they did crazy things, like wake us up at an odd hour and tell us to get on a bus which would take us to a park or perhaps near Fujiyama. All the Europeans would complain;
" this is crazy I should be asleep!" "Why are we doing this, it makes no sense?" And so on. Our habits were challenged and we didn’t like it at all. Then came the day when resistance was worn out and suddenly something marvellous happened. It is a feeling and hard to describe but in short it was a lightness, a feeling of power, of knowing and a feeling of being connected to the nature all around.

So this is the point and reward of learning martial arts. Not to fight an outside enemy but to fight the internal battle. The true warrior knows that the only battle is with the self. An example: once a Feudal Lord called his Samurai and told him to go and execute a man who had been found guilty by the law. The Samurai duly sought out the man and just as he was about to draw his sword the man spat at him and called his mother horrible names. The Samurai put his sword back and went home. What happened? Well the man infuriated the Samurai with his insults and the Samurai realised he was personally reacting to these insults. In such a state he could not have ‘Empty Mind’, he could not just act dispassionately so he didn’t act at that time.

The final battle for all of us is of course death. This is the final enemy and we cannot overcome this enemy, He always wins. So the practice is slowly preparing us to face death like a warrior, with dispassion and emptiness. Many unprepared people die is terror and fear and loathing. Their life is not investigated and they have not made preparation and so death takes them by surprise. It is said that a warrior is rewarded in the following way. When death comes it must wait. Death must stand aside while the warrior performs his last dance, the dance of a warrior. Thus death becomes a glorious affair not full of fear but full of awareness and acceptance.

While I don’t expect readers to go out and suddenly start learning martial arts I do hope that some readers will begin to watch out for their habits, customs and memories. We can stop and ask our self, "Is this really me choosing this? Or am I just reacting from habit?" When we discover that it is habit that moves us then we can do something about it. We can ask our self, "how would I really like to respond to this situation? What is my need here? What values are important in this situation?"
If you start to think like this then you are starting on the warrior’s path because the true martial arts are not concerned with outside enemies, they are concerned with one’s inner life.

Take courage, try and make your body fit, practice sitting quietly on a regular basis (20 minutes a day at least) and most of all start noticing your reaction to situations. The first step is just to notice!

Be at Peace.

[Morpheus]

Yes, that obnoxious negro is good.

Why is he obnoxious to you? You don't like his air guitar and Michael Jackson dances?

It's about seeing negro fans who automatically root for the black guy over the white one (of course that's not racist in the least) being disappointed when their "heroes" (no matter how scummy they are like Michael Vick or those Jena 6 douches) lose.

That's even more ridiculous. You're basically saying you love to stick it to the Black man (ironic).

And the Jena 6 are not professional athletes. :rolleyes:

Unless you're saying every time a Black man gets in trouble you view it as a "victory".

Furthermore, it is always nice to have the Jews' plans of portraying all white men as nerdy effeminate fags hit a speed bump.

The ZOG conspiracy is anti-semitic propaganda and like I said, the idea that the media is conspiring to emasculate White men through sports is lunacy. Most Jews in America self identify as White Americans.

Because none of this was true when blacks ruled boxing.

If you actually read the article it says that Boxing was in decline throughout the 1980s, into the present. Yes, even during the Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, Lewis area where Black boxers were championed to damage the psyche of White boys by evil Jews.

Those "whites" are mainly jooooos.

Yes I'm sure the majority of employees in American media are Jooz. :rolleyes:

No, I am insecure about my two inch dicklet.

Is this you?! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BdKWx06gx8) :eek:

Actually we do. You antis live in a dreamworld where you think "racists" hate blacks because of their skin color. No, we "hate" them because of their actions.

Because all Black people, of course, have the same personality and deserve to be persecuted and generalized for being part of the same sinister hive mind.

Gotta love the racist logic.

I don't "hate" Anderson Silva for his ethnicity.

I said that you hate his ethnicity. And you do hate Black people.

I cheer in favour of Rich Franklin because I mostly cheer for the white guy over the black but I don't "hate" Anderson Silva. The Blacks almost always cheer in favour of the Black guy so why not? White lemmings cheer enough for Blacks as is and they don't need anymore. That's why white men are demasculated in society. The Spider seems to be a lot more reasonably mannered and behaved than many of the Black American athletes out there. While Brazil is a very violent country, the Brazilians don't have that same street thug culture popular with Black Americans.

You structured the theme of your support for Rich by propping him up as a great White hope on a mission to repair the damaged image of White men in sports. I don't know whether you have anything against Anderson personally or not. I'm just going on experience, because when Melvin Manhoef was beaten you gloated over his loss and insulted him racially.

So when Eastern Europeans dominate boxing you say that the talent pool is dried up? Are you saying that the Eastern Euro heavyweight champs and other champs are not talented and worthy of having their belts? Or is the champ only worthy when it's a black guy like Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis or Mayweather?

Those three were diamonds in the rough. Like my article said, the talent pool had been shot for years. Most of the guys Tyson beat were bums. You yourself said that the UFC Middleweight division is weak. The Boxing Heavyweight division has been worse for years. Go read the article I linked to, it analyzes these modern HW boxing champions and why the division they are dominating is weak.

Quarterbacks are mostly white.

So? My point still stands. Many great, White QBs are considered to be superstars.

. Nash is getting the respect he deserves as a talented white man amongst a bunch of black thugs (and you know that the NBA has a problem with unprofessional thuggish blacks players. The league needs to clean its image.)

The majority of NBA players are articulate, college educated athletes. There is plenty of sportmanship and class displayed in Basketball, unlike the NHL where hockey players fight so much that their ice bouts make highlights and give the league the reputation of being a hick sport.

You know as well as I do that the NFL and NBA as well as NCAA football and basketball are purposely guided overall to appeal to Blacks and exclude Whites because the executives (predominately liberal and Jewish) actively promote the image of the "buck nigger athlete."

So now the corporate executives in collegiate and professional sports are conspiring to exclude Whites in order to emasculate White boys? Sounds like Jim Crow all over again with the races reversed. I guess the Whites need to go make Blanco leagues so they can participate in sports.


good 'ol white folk getting into the NFL unless they are a quarterback (a more tactical position that doesn't fit the "buck nigger athlete" image like a Wide Receiver or Running Back).

I've played several positions in football including Quarterback, Tight End, Running Back, Line Backer, Strong Safety and Field Goal Kicker so I have had first hand experience with the mental processes involved in performing the tasks at these positions.

Quarterback is the most tactical position on the field of course, but it's nothing compared to the intelligence that goes into playing Point Guard in Basketball.

All you have to do is read the defense, perform the cadence, grab the snap and hand off, throw or run the ball (the same thing the running back does).

Handing off a ball doesn't take any intelligence and if you have good backs you are handing the ball off half the time. Passing is the only real tactical element to playing Quarterback and all you have to do is have good hand eye coordination to do it. The only difficulty comes in finding someone open (which is only a problem if the intended receiver is not open) without getting knocked on your ass by fat defensive linemen.

Blacks dominate most positions in football because they require speed and many West African populations are genetically more inclined on average to faster twitch muscles than other human populations so the best athlete for such positions will be the ones with this advantage. Quarterbacks, Field Goal Kickers and Punters do not need to be fast which is why you see more Whites (the American majority) in these positions.

....You Blacks are being played like a fiddle by white liberals (disproportionately Jewish) and you willingly allow that to gain a false sense of "power" over the white man. And when Blacks shit their pants when they see their only sense of power being taken away from them (losing to whitey in professional sports like boxing), it's hilarious.

LMAO!!!! :rofl:

Go to bed Raven. :rolleyes:

I can't believe you edited your post to add this stupid shit. :nopity:

So you believe that professional sports are the only measure of masculinity?

No, but I mark it as insecurity with masculinity to obsess over the demographic of athletes.

I only mentioned sports because we are talking about sports.

That's something a very disproportionate amount of black fathers unfortunately don't know how to do since many black children are raised without a father. Would you say those "men" are masculine?

It takes a man to be a father. If you ever have kids hopefully you will be married to their mother and become a responsible father to them, not having to disparage Blacks to make yourself feel like more of a man.

Fedor is the best. I don't know why they are giving Silva such an honor so prematurely.

There's been a lot of criticism of Fedor lately because the quality of his recent opponents have been subar.

The only decent HWs he's fought in 2 years are Hunt and Crocop. Lindland was a blown up Middleweight and he is looking at inactivity since the deal with the UFC fell through.

Silva has been active, destroying top contenders left and right. He's looking at being a dominate champion for quite sometime unless they sign someone who stands a chance.

Anderson Silva is a well trained latecomer to Muay Thai and MMA....

He's been competing in MMA for 7 years. I don't see how he is a "latecomer".

...styles of Martial Arts invented by Aryans in India, taught to Asians, and then rediscovered by Western Aryans.

The concept of an Aryan people is rubbish:


The Aryan Invasion of India: Fact or Fiction? (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5700)

East Asian Martial Arts do not all derive from one source and they were certainly not taught by mythical Aryans.

Bodi Dharma's influence on Shaolin Kung Fu has been blown out of proportion.

Martial Arts have been practiced by many cultures all around the world. What he is said to have taught the Shaolin Monks was Qigong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong), a meditative breathing exercise that formed the basis for their style of Kung Fu.

Ramon Dekker: Muay Thai Legend

What does a music video highlight reel of Ramon Dekkers played to Eminem have to do with...anything??? http://www.mootsf.org/forums/images/smilies/daeyebrow.gif

Instead of trying to White Wash martial arts history and romanticize White Muay Thai fighters you should watch this video to learn a thing or two about the history and intricacies of the real Martial Art:

Human Weapon: Muay Thai (http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1137438P6pcHr6W)

[harjit]

Hey Schmusa, you need to post here more.

I'm pretty much on my own here and need the help. When Kamandi shows up he eats six or seven racists at a time for breakfast, but his attendance is flaky (although not much as it is at MSF). Thinker is pretty good but not here everyday either.

If I don't get much help they are going to turn me into a frothing racist the pace things are going. I already say things like "nignore function" and Raven is inspiring me to say things like "where da white wimminz be at".

[raven]

Blacks dominate most positions in football because they require speed and many West African populations are genetically more inclined on average to faster twitch muscles than other human populations so the best athlete for such positions will be the ones with this advantage. Quarterbacks, Field Goal Kickers and Punters do not need to be fast which is why you see more Whites (the American majority) in these positions.So you're saying that black athletes have superior speed in athletic sports but yet you can say with a straight face that Blacks have equal intelligence to Whites? LOL. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you really believe that Blacks are some sort of super alpha race with the intelligence of whites (or perhaps you're deluded to think your kind are more intelligent?) but superior athleticism, all I have to say is LOL to that. Your kind are in the dumps because of your groups' inferior average intelligence. Your group is so destitute that to feel good about yourself you have to play up your race as somehow being superior. In the end Blacks are powerless. That's why the elite is composed mostly of white liberal (and neo-con, same shit) scum and they are disproportionately Jewish.

You say there are no racial differences in intelligence because races don't exist. But then now you are saying there are racial differences in speed. You talk out of your ass. You speak of White supremacists but if anything, you are a Black Supremacist. I'm no white supremacist. If I was there, I would have left your ancestors to rot as slaves to some black african slavelord in the continent of Africa with you shitting in the river somewhere and living in some mudhut. Your kind are thankless. If it wasn't for your people being brought to America, you'd be in the same crappy situation as your brothers in Africa. It would have been better that way for everyone.

[Mackie]

*snip*When Kamandi shows up he eats six or seven racists at a time for breakfast *snip*

He does? I suppose that depends on the person who reads what. I've seen him getting thrown around some.

If I don't get much help they are going to turn me into a frothing racist the pace things are going. I already say things like "nignore function" and Raven is inspiring me to say things like "where da white wimminz be at".
HA! ZE PLAN IZ WORKING :D

[Count Sudoku]

Why is he obnoxious to you? You don't like his air guitar and Michael Jackson dances?

Precisely! I saw that on a promo for one of thoe UFC events. Repeatedly.

That's even more ridiculous. You're basically saying you love to stick it to the Black man (ironic).

Hee hee, yes.

And the Jena 6 are not professional athletes. :rolleyes:

I know. One of them is, the HNIC. Apparently quite talented as well. I'm hoping someone kneecaps the son of a bitch. I can just see that motherfucker playing in the NFL and being considered a hero.

Unless you're saying every time a Black man gets in trouble you view it as a "victory".

The Jena 6 are scum.

http://amren.com/features/jenaFraud/jenaFraud.html

Apparently even the black people down there hate them.

The ZOG conspiracy is anti-semitic propaganda and like I said, the idea that the media is conspiring to emasculate White men through sports is lunacy.

Why? Because you say so? This website says differently...

http://www.castefootball.us/

Most Jews in America self identify as White Americans.

Most Jews are not in the media. I'm not talking about MUSCLE POWER here.

If you actually read the article it says that Boxing was in decline throughout the 1980s, into the present. Yes, even during the Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield, Lewis area where Black boxers were championed to damage the psyche of White boys by evil Jews.

See? I was right without even reading the article. Those factors were present even before whitey took over. I will read the article just out of interest's sake.

Yes I'm sure the majority of employees in American media are Jooz. :rolleyes:

http://www.natall.com/who-rules-america/

Is this you?! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BdKWx06gx8) :eek:

No, I'm not that good looking.

Because all Black people, of course, have the same personality and deserve to be persecuted and generalized for being part of the same sinister hive mind.

I don't want to "persecute" anyone. (Well some people I do.) But in general I'm interested in physical and political separation, not oppression, slavery or genocide.

[Morpheus]

Hey Schmusa, you need to post here more.

What the hell??? http://www.mootsf.org/forums/images/smilies/daeyebrow.gif

I'm pretty much on my own here and need the help. When Kamandi shows up he eats six or seven racists at a time for breakfast, but his attendance is flaky (although not much as it is at MSF). Thinker is pretty good but not here everyday either.

If I don't get much help they are going to turn me into a frothing racist the pace things are going. I already say things like "nignore function" and Raven is inspiring me to say things like "where da white wimminz be at".

I'm just passing by. I'm rather busy these days. All I can tell you Harj is to resist the temptations of the darkside and wear racist vermin repellent when you go for walks outdoors. :rofl:

So you're saying that black athletes have superior speed in athletic sports but yet you can say with a straight face that Blacks have equal intelligence to Whites? LOL. You can't have your cake and eat it too....

Yuck. This post oozes of inferiority complex. All I said was that there was a genetic correlation between the heritability of fast twitch muscles and the athletic performance of people of African descent in sports that require quick bursts of speed.

I didn't say anything about Blacks being overall athletically superior to Whites.

I'm not surprised that such a comment deeply offended you, you don't understand the subject well enough to know what I meant. I don't have time to pound you with sources, you should take this quiz, you might learn a thing or two.


Understanding Race: Sports Quiz (http://www.understandingrace.org/lived/sports/index.html)

Measuring intelligence is a far more complicated subject than who can run fast. I'm doing research to learn more about this subject and will start a thread to give my opinion when I have time.

Precisely! I saw that on a promo for one of thoe UFC events. Repeatedly.

Do you think Chuck Liddell is obnoxious when he arches his back and prances around the ring yelling like a lunatic? Victory celebrations are great. They liven up the mood of the sport.


The Jena 6 are scum.

http://amren.com/features/jenaFraud/jenaFraud.html

Apparently even the black people down there hate them.

I wasn't defending them. I only posted in this thread to talk about MMA.


Why? Because you say so? This website says differently...

http://www.castefootball.us/

A racial fetishist obsessing over the demographic of football players is hardly a credible source.

This article by Tim Wise paints a clearer picture.

PARANOID PREJUDICE: Debunking the 'Jewish Conspiracy' (http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_tol.jsp?id=848)

See? I was right without even reading the article. Those factors were present even before whitey took over. I will read the article just out of interest's sake.

I never said that Whites caused the decline of Boxing, did I? I said that boxing had been declining for years and that the media was not conspiring to discredit Eastern European champions.

So I was right all along.

http://www.natall.com/who-rules-america/

See Wise's essay above.

[raven]

Yuck. This post oozes of inferiority complex. All I said was that there was a genetic correlation between the heritability of fast twitch muscles and the athletic performance of people of African descent in sports that require quick bursts of speed.

I didn't say anything about Blacks being overall athletically superior to Whites.

I'm not surprised that such a comment deeply offended you, you don't understand the subject well enough to know what I meant. I don't have time to pound you with sources, you should take this quiz, you might learn a thing or two.


Understanding Race: Sports Quiz (http://www.understandingrace.org/lived/sports/index.html)

Measuring intelligence is a far more complicated subject than who can run fast. I'm doing research to learn more about this subject and will start a thread to give my opinion when I have time.So you're saying that Blacks have faster speed and twitch reflexes than Whites while still maintaining the same intelligence of whites? You can't have your cake and eat it too. Your type speaks as if its impossible that blacks have lower intelligence overall but then at the same time you say "oh yeah we're faster than whitey and that's why blacks dominate sports"? You are a Black Supremacist. You feel demoralized seeing Africa, Black America and Blacks in the Carribbean in such a dire state and so you feel the need to hype up Blacks as some alpha race (whereas most here are humble enough to admit that East Asians are the smartest race).

[Count Sudoku]

PARANOID PREJUDICE: Debunking the 'Jewish Conspiracy'

By Tim Wise

Aug. 19, 2003 -- Several years ago, when I began to write essays on racism for a number of Internet-based publications, I made the decision to include my email address at the bottom of every article.

This, despite my awareness that doing so would prompt any number of cranks to write me, expressing contempt for what I had written. To condemn racism, be it of the individual or institutional variety, is to encourage the wrath of bigots.

To these folks, offering my email address is nothing less than an invitation for them to regale me with age-old racist rants about blacks, and to extol the virtues of so-called white culture and white "genetic purity."

Even more telling are the things they say after the paragraphs about the greater cranial capacity of Caucasians as compared to Africans or other absurdities.

That's when my Internet penpals turn to the real source of their hatred and offer up what they consider the ultimate refutation of anything I have previously written: Namely, I am a Jew (usually a "dirty" one at that, they being quick with the adjectives), and this explains my desire, as they put it to "destroy the white race."

To this way of thinking (and I use "thinking" with caution here), Jews seek to destroy white unity via multiculturalism, immigration and affirmative action, so as to weaken the resistance of the white majority, thereby increasing our own power.

Although most Jews in America are from Europe, we do not qualify as white in this view, but rather as the ultimate social, cultural, and even genetic threat to white survival.

It doesn't matter that they came from Europe. It matters where they came from before getting to Europe. Furthermore, even if they were 100% "white" it is their actions that matter, not their origins.

We are, in other words, viewed as a biological pollutant in the body politic.

For years I have been told to ignore this stuff; to not give people like this credibility by responding. "Why encourage them?" some would ask. "Nothing you say can change the minds of people this deranged."

But while I believe the last part of the preceding paragraph to be true, I no longer accept the first. Even the most absurd statements can become widely accepted if they go unrefuted.

The belief that the Holocaust of European Jewry never happened, for example, which would have been considered prima facie evidence of cerebral damage just a few decades ago, is now widespread throughout parts of Europe. Likewise, beliefs that Jews control the media and U.S. economy are increasingly heard on the Internet and elsewhere.

So let us now dispense with the nonsense about Jewish power. The idea that we run everything as evidenced by our "overrepresentation" in media and finance is nothing short of insane, even based on the "evidence" for such a claim marshaled by those who believe it.

Debunking internet idiocy

One website — the crassly named "hoozajew" — claims its goal is to confront Jewish power and destructive influences. That site offers a database program that supposedly determines how many Jews are in a given organization by analyzing the names of people in the group.

Putting aside the absurdity of trying to determine religious or ethnic heritage solely from a list of names, when this "program" is used to analyze key figures at three of the top media companies in the United States, the number of Jews among top executives, directors and management totals eight out of 88, or about 9%. Though this is higher than the roughly 3% of Americans who are Jewish, it is not such a disproportion as to indicate Jewish "control" of the media.

This sounds like BS. But even if it was true, if there was only one person at the top who fired the ass of whoever didn't toe the line, that is all it takes.

What’s more, the apparent disproportion is rooted more in statistical sampling error than anything else. For example:

At AOL TimeWarner, there are 24 key executives, so even though only five are Jewish, five as a percentage of 24 is 21%, giving the impression of a huge disproportion of Jews.

Likewise Gannett, where only three of 34 board members or top management are Jewish — according to the Web site — but where this represents a seemingly disproportionate 9% of the total.
Because of low sample sizes, virtually any Jewish representation will appear disproportionate in a statistical sense.

This is nonsense. If a repeated pattern is seen over and over, that is enough statistical evidence.

Of course, even if there are many Jews in a given industry, this can only be problematic for one of two reasons: first, if one already believes Jews are inherently given to abusing power; or secondly, if Jews obtained their positions by way of injustice, having received unfair privileges relative to non-Jews.

To accept the first of these is to engage in the ultimate circular logic: We know the Jews are bad because they “control the media,” and they control the media because they are bad.

That is not the argument. The argument is that they control the media and they do bad things with that control.

As regards the second possibility, while it is true that Jews in the U.S. have benefited from having mostly "white" skin, and thus, have been able to move ahead of persons of color in many industries thanks to white privilege, there is no evidence that Jews obtained positions in media or elsewhere because of state intervention on their behalf as Jews, over and above the opportunities provided for non-Jews.

No one suggeted "state intervention", they state that Jews engage in ethnic cronyism.

Looking at claims of Jewish media domination, bigots imply that Jews have evil intentions to manipulate information for the sake of "Jewish" interests. Yet, there are many far-from-sinister reasons for the significant Jewish media presence.

Most importantly, media outlets (as with financial institutions) have always been concentrated in urban areas, and especially New York City. Likewise, Jews in America have mostly been an urban people, with a large share of the Jewish community residing in New York.

As such, the proper way to evaluate the extent of Jewish "overrepresentation" is to compare the Jewish level of representation with the Jewish share of the population in places like New York -- not to compare the percentage of Jews in a given company or industry with the overall Jewish population generally.

This is a good point but is it only people who actually live in New York that are eligible to work in media? Or can someone take journalsim in Kansas and move to New York later?

According to the American Jewish Committee, there are 1.45 million Jews in New York City. According to the Census Bureau, there are roughly 8 million people living in New York City overall. Thus, Jews would comprise approximately 18% of the population of New York — a percentage about six times greater than the national average.

(Other estimates place the Jewish share of the New York population at around 10% — still more than three times the national average.)

As such, the "overrepresentation" of Jews in various industries or companies turns out to be no overrepresentation at all, and occasionally an underrepresentation.

Once again, are only people living in New York eligible for jobs there?

What about tobacco?

As for the banking and financial industries, even based on the analysis of "Jewish names" by the website (which, keep in mind is one of the more "sophisticated" chroniclers of so-called Jewish power), fewer than 6% of the directors and officers of seven of the largest banks or brokerage firms in the country are Jewish. In real numbers, that's 15 of 255 directors.

At Morgan Stanley, 9% of directors and officers are identified by the Web site as Jewish, which the Web site describes as a “very important over-representation” of Jews. The real numbers? Two of 23 officers.

The situation is similar at Citibank: five of 54 officers. At the New York Stock Exchange, it's four of 32 officers, hardly enough to indicate Jewish domination of the NYSE.

What the fuck does banking have to do with the media?

Of course, in keeping with the logic of anti-Jewish bigots, perhaps one should ask the following:

If media or financial wrongdoing is Jewish inspired, since Jews are prominent in media and finance, should the depredations of white Christian-dominated industries (like the tobacco or automobile industries) be viewed as examples of white Christian malfeasance?

After all, 400,000 people per year die because of smoking-related illnesses, and tobacco companies withheld information on the cancerous properties of their products. Is their race, religion or ethnic culture relevant to their misdeeds? If not, why is it suddenly relevant when the executives in question are Jewish?

What does tobacco have to do with the media?

That nothing I have said here will matter to those whose vitriol regularly fills my inbox is testimony to nothing so much as their deep psychological need to project their own authoritarian tendencies onto others. To find Jewish scapegoats for whatever miserable failures their lives have turned out to be — this is the ideological holy grail of the anti-Jewish bigot.

And of course it will lead them to view this column as merely more proof that a Jewish conspiracy exists, and that I am part of it: my denials only prove my guilt, in the warped worldview of persons so hate-besotted.

So be it, and in which case I have only one request. Before anyone writes me with more "proof," do me a favor: Namely, gather up the number and address of the national office of the Jewish conspiracy and send it my way. After all, I’ve been busting my hump on their behalf for a long while now, and I’d like my commission check.

This is one fucking lame rebuttal about control of the media by Jews.

[Morpheus]

So you're saying that Blacks have faster speed and twitch reflexes than Whites while still maintaining the same intelligence of whites? You can't have your cake and eat it too. Your type speaks as if its impossible that blacks have lower intelligence overall but then at the same time you say "oh yeah we're faster than whitey and that's why blacks dominate sports"? You are a Black Supremacist. You feel demoralized seeing Africa, Black America and Blacks in the Carribbean in such a dire state and so you feel the need to hype up Blacks as some alpha race (whereas most here are humble enough to admit that East Asians are the smartest race).

I'm not going to squabble with you over this subject. It is obvious that the success of Blacks in entertainment and sports makes you feel insecure. If this were not so you would not obsess over the subject, always talking about how much interracial dating bothers you and gloating when a Black athlete or musician gets in legal trouble or a non-Black athlete beats them in sports.

Talking about crime rates and immigration are reasonable albeit misinformed concerns of White racists. But the crap we are discussing here is petty.

I recall that you have even admitted that you were a social outcast in grade school and repulsed by the "degenerate behavior" of the "incrowd" and shunned mainstream media as a result. That is what this boils down to.

Just to show an example of the absurdity in your accusation, if I were to say that men are genetically inclined to greater upper body strength than women and women are not more intelligent than men or vice versa does that mean that I believe men are a superior gender? Am I now a sexist just as much as a Black Supremacist for what I am saying here?

I've also seen evidence from sources that some East Asian populations have genetically based advantages in flexibility over other human groups that lead to many successful Asian gymnasts and Northern Europeans have greater chest cavities than other groups which aid them in oxidizing muscles in their upper body that gives White athletes advantages in feats of raw strength such as Strongman competitions. But of course I'm a Black Supremacist, I can't really believe that. :rolleyes:

You might want to give this article a read and learn something:

On the Concept of Biological Race and Its Applicability to Humans (http://oregonstate.edu/~kaplanj/2003-PhilSc-race.pdf)

There's nothing racist about what I said. Maybe in reading this you think differently, but you were very quick to jump to conclusions so I won't give you the benefit of a doubt. What YOU guys have been saying on the other hand about evil Jewish conspiracies to emasculate White men, athletic commissions screening out Whites from collegiate sports through Affirmative Action and college coaches pimping out their daughters to Black athletes (WTF? http://www.mootsf.org/forums/images/smilies/daeyebrow.gif) is completely demented thinking.

It goes beyond racist, it's delusional. It's devoid of reason and you know that I'm right.

[raven]

You have completed sidestepped my point. You must have been taking lessons from Kamandi. Do you really believe that blacks have superior speed and twitch reflexes while also believing that blacks happen to have the same intelligence as whites? It's just a simple question. You believe that Black men are superior in athletics (since you say that Blacks do so well in sports in relation to whites because of speed and twitch reflexes) but would cry racism whenever you see a study that says that whites and especially east asians are superior to blacks in intelligence. In the mind of a Black Supremacist, it's ok to say that he's athletically gifted more than whitey but if you say that whitey is more intelligent on average than Blacks, he cries Racism. You can't have it both ways. You are a Black Supremacist and you are completely sidestepping from that.

[Count Sudoku]

I'm not going to squabble with you over this subject. It is obvious that the success of Blacks in entertainment and sports makes you feel insecure. If this were not so you would not obsess over the subject, always talking about how much interracial dating bothers you and gloating when a Black athlete or musician gets in legal trouble or a non-Black athlete beats them in sports.

I think the point was that there are racial differences in physcial performance ergo there are probably racial differences in mental performance.

Talking about crime rates and immigration are reasonable albeit misinformed concerns of White racists. But the crap we are discussing here is petty.

What is petty about not wanting your country to turn to shit with the importation of huge numbers of blacks and arabs?

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p247/paristinian/Paris.jpg

I recall that you have even admitted that you were a social outcast in grade school and repulsed by the "degenerate behavior" of the "incrowd" and shunned mainstream media as a result. That is what this boils down to.

Which has no bearing on whether what he says is true or not. Are popular incrowd people not going to be affected if ten thousand Katrina refugees are dropped in their neighborhood?

What YOU guys have been saying on the other hand about evil Jewish conspiracies to emasculate White men, athletic commissions screening out Whites from collegiate sports through Affirmative Action and college coaches pimping out their daughters to Black athletes (WTF? http://www.mootsf.org/forums/images/smilies/daeyebrow.gif) is completely demented thinking.

It goes beyond racist, it's delusional. It's devoid of reason and you know that I'm right.

Just because you think it isn't true doesn't mean it isn't. People can look at that website and draw their own conclusions.

[Morpheus]

You have completed sidestepped my point. You must have been taking lessons from Kamandi.

I didn't side step anything, I exposed the lack of logic in your accusation.

Labels actually have to make sense to be valid. Yours do not.

[Keystone]

Too many champions in too many weight classes today.

[raven]

I've always found the way that weight classes are done are ridiculous. First off, when you have small pound differences between each weight class, it only dilutes the talent pool. Secondly, the practice of weight cutting (dehydrating yourself and eating nothing before the weigh-ins to make weight and then re-hydrating and eating like mad after the weigh-ins to fight with a size advantage on fight day. I believe Gatti would weigh-in at 141 and then fight at 160) destroys the purpose of having weight classes in the first place. Not to mention that weight-cutting via dehydration can cause cumulative damage to the kidneys and other problems.

There should be weigh-ins about a couple hours before the actual fight so that fighters actually fight within the actual weight of the weight class. They didn't have weight-cutting in boxing until what? The late 60s/early 70s? They were doing fine before that so I don't know why they need it. The number of weight classes should also be reduced. The fact that Floyd Mayweather Jr. could hold two belts by say winning a 147 belt and then win another by moving up to 154 is ridiculous. Too many weight classes. Do they really need a welterweight AND a super welterweight division? Don't even get me started on the lighter weight classes where there are fucking 2-3 pound differences.

The weight classes in boxing should be something like this because the 17 weight classes they currently have are ridiculous:

Heavyweight: 220 lb+
Cruiserweight: 200-220 lb
Light Heavyweight: 181-200 lb
Middleweight: 165-181 lb
Welterweight: 150-165 lb
Lightweight: 136-150 lb
Featherweight: 123-136 lb
Bantamweight: 112-123 lb
Flyweight: <112 lb

At least with a set up like this perhaps the belts would actually mean something. If a guy wins 147 and then wins 154, who cares? But if he could win 150 and then move up and win 165, it would actually mean something.

[Fallen King]

What does it really matter how much melanin any current world champions have in their bodies?

[Count Sudoku]

What does it really matter how much melanin any current world champions have in their bodies?

It is always good to see less grinning black and brown monkey faces.

[raven]

It's great to see that Europeans, particularly Eastern Euros, over-represent themselves in boxing. The only divisions where whites are low in number are in the Super Welterweight and below divisions. The Welterweight and Super Welterweight belts are the only ones that people actually care about among the lower divisions since Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather Jr. are in those divisions. That's it.

Melanin has nothing to do with it. If it did then that would mean that I'd prefer the least melanin deficient (Albinos) over the rest which is not the truth. Race goes beyond simply just melanin. An Albino Negro is still going to be big-lipped, nappy-haired, wide-nosed, etc. among other things (including being more predisposed to TNB and being less intelligent on average). Antis need to stop with this "you judge people based on skin color!" rhetoric. If a relative of mine was dating an Albino Negro, I still wouldn't accept them as part of the family tree nor would I ever consider a nappy-haired, negro-lipped, negro-nosed albino as one of us. The difference between Negroids and Whites goes beyond skin color.

In sports it doesn't matter but it's great to see Blacks see their black athlete heroes lose when athleticism and entertainment are the only measurements of masculinity that black man have. It demoralizes their race when Eastern Euros can come into the game and beat their prized alpha males at boxing. And it's funny to see guys like Nash kick ass in the NiggerBall Assocation. I never liked playing or watching Niggerball though because that sport is so infested with nigger culture (which permeates much of popular culture to this day). Every time a negro gets a dunk, he jumps around like a retard, grabs his crotch and grunts "muh dik! muh dik! Nigga! RESPEC! Fo-sho." Hence why I was more into hockey in grade school and highschool (and yes I think fighting in hockey is stupid but the whole "thug life" cultural vibe in basketball is a lot more annoying. Who wants to see a bunch of delinquents who have babies with several baby mamas jump around like hooligans shouting "oh yea boi! You got served! Oh Snap!" Not to mention that blacks frequently chimp out in the NBA like Ron Artest and others.)

[Fallen King]

It is always good to see less grinning black and brown monkey faces.

You'd prefer more pale skinned monkey faces instead?

[Count Sudoku]

You'd prefer more pale skinned monkey faces instead?

You mean like this?

http://my.opera.com/SerbianFighter/albums/show.dml?id=62592

http://files.myopera.com/SerbianFighter/albums/62592/albinosl.jpg

No thanks!

[Fallen King]

First, I noticed that you picked the picture out of the group of a man that has the widest nostrils and biggest lips.

Second, if those people pictured had ancestors who lived near the Arctic circle, like most blonde haired, blue eyed people do, then their nostrils (and noses) would have gotten smaller over generations (to restrict cold air flow), and their lips would have gotten smaller to keep less mucous membrane surface exposed to the cold air.

If you take those two factors into account, and look at the entire group of pictures at the link you posted, you can see that they wouldn't look much different from many light-skinned ("white") people.

http://my.opera.com/SerbianFighter/albums/show.dml?id=62592

[Count Sudoku]

First, I noticed that you picked the picture out of the group of a man that has the widest nostrils and biggest lips.

Here's another.

http://files.myopera.com/SerbianFighter/albums/62592/albinosi.jpg

Second, if those people pictured had ancestors who lived near the Arctic circle, like most blonde haired, blue eyed people do, then their nostrils (and noses) would have gotten smaller over generations (to restrict cold air flow), and their lips would have gotten smaller to keep less mucous membrane surface exposed to the cold air.

Oh gee. Natural selection would have made them smarter and better looking. Sort of what probably happened in the first place.

If you take those two factors into account, and look at the entire group of pictures at the link you posted, you can see that they wouldn't look much different from many light-skinned ("white") people.

http://my.opera.com/SerbianFighter/albums/show.dml?id=62592

Actually, I'm less concerned with what they look like and more concerned with how they behave.

[Fallen King]

Here's another.

http://files.myopera.com/SerbianFighter/albums/62592/albinosi.jpg

The only real differences I see between that guy and the average white guy, are the wider nostrils, to take in more air (because warm air has fewer oxygen molecules), his hair texture, and his lips, the reason for which I explained in that earlier post.

Oh gee. Natural selection would have made them smarter and better looking. Sort of what probably happened in the first place.

Measures of intelligence as a way of measuring the quality of a man are dependent, not upon relative levels of technology, but upon how a man utilizes that technology, for good or for ill.

A man of good will is superior to a man of ill will.

A man of good will uses technology for peaceful, constructive purposes.

Peaceful, constructive people, things and ideas are inherently more harmonious, and thus, have a slower breakdown rate.

Thus, peaceful people live longer, happier lives.

To me, engaging in whatever promotes long life is the most intelligent thing a person can do.

Oh gee. Natural selection would have made them smarter and better looking. Sort of what probably happened in the first place.

"Better Looking" is partly objective and partly subjective. The objective part is based on mathematical relationships between different features of the face, which are equally distributed among the human race.

Actually, I'm less concerned with what they look like and more concerned with how they behave.

1) Not all blacks are criminals.

and

2) The number of black professionals increases every day.

After being systematically oppressed for 400 years, you can't expect them to up and suddenly start eating tea and crumpets and calling each other Brad and Tiffany.

[Fallen King]

Now this is a monkey:

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u96/mrivi/bush-funny-face-3.jpg

[Count Sudoku]

Measures of intelligence as a way of measuring the quality of a man are dependent, not upon relative levels of technology, but upon how a man utilizes that technology, for good or for ill.

A man of good will is superior to a man of ill will.

A man of good will uses technology for peaceful, constructive purposes.

Peaceful, constructive people, things and ideas are inherently more harmonious, and thus, have a slower breakdown rate.

Thus, peaceful people live longer, happier lives.

To me, engaging in whatever promotes long life is the most intelligent thing a person can do.

In that case, blacks with their lower life expectancies must be really dumb.

1) Not all blacks are criminals.

and

2) The number of black professionals increases every day.

Adding large numbers of blacks to an area is always a net negative even if some of them aren't criminals.

After being systematically oppressed for 400 years, you can't expect them to up and suddenly start eating tea and crumpets and calling each other Brad and Tiffany.

I don't care what they do as long as I am not subjected to it.

[harjit]

It would be so hilarious if Count Soduku was assigned to work with these two on a daily basis at his job. :rofl:


http://files.myopera.com/SerbianFighter/albums/62592/albinosl.jpg http://files.myopera.com/SerbianFighter/albums/62592/albinosi.jpg

[shanemac]

It would be so hilarious if Count Soduku was assigned to work with these two on a daily basis at his job. :rofl:


Yes, quite the dilemma... "hmmmm.... Are these people nigger scum worthy of derision and contempt who should by rights be picking cotton 12 hours a day and kept in line with a daily whippin', or are they white Aryan Ubermensch, from whom all good things have come, and to which the planet owes its undying gratitude?".... that's a tough one... :D

[Fallen King]

In that case, blacks with their lower life expectancies must be really dumb.

I see evolution as a gradually inclining plane of consciousness expanding to fill the cosmos.

If the expansion is too quick, people get afraid.

A fearful populace with advanced weaponry are a threat to us all.

The end result of evolution is eventual space travel, and colonizing other planets.

Having human beings with different levels of melatonin in their skin would be advantageous when colonizing unknown planets, which might be too hot, or too bright.

[raven]

Good god, Albino Negroes are so incredibly hideous. See I don't judge them based on black skin color, I freely admit that Negroes look worse when depigmented. :D

[shanemac]

I see evolution as a gradually inclining plane of consciousness expanding to fill the cosmos.

If the expansion is too quick, people get afraid.

A fearful populace with advanced weaponry are a threat to us all.

The end result of evolution is eventual space travel, and colonizing other planets.

Having human beings with different levels of melatonin in their skin would be advantageous when colonizing unknown planets, which might be too hot, or too bright.


LOL :rofl: :rofl:

[Keystone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sONtYhVTnHg

Rocky Marciano.