View Full Version : 'Dumbledore is gay' says Rowling
Macrobius
10-20-2007, 09:05 PM
I'm putting this in High Culture, since Wintermute regards Harry Potter so highly.
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2007-10-20T060821Z_01_N20520040_RTRUKOC_0_US-ROWLING.xml
NEW YORK (Reuters) - J.K. Rowling has outed one of the main characters of her best-selling Harry Potter series, telling fans in New York that the wizard Albus Dumbledore, head of Hogwarts school, is gay.
Speaking at Carnegie Hall on Friday night in her first U.S. tour in seven years, Rowling confirmed what some fans had always suspected -- that she "always thought Dumbledore was gay", reported entertainment Web site E! Online.
Rowling said Dumbledore fell in love with the charming wizard Gellert Grindelwald but when Grindelwald turned out to be more interested in the dark arts than good, Dumbledore was "terribly let down" and went on to destroy his rival.
That love, she said, was Dumbledore's "great tragedy".
"Falling in love can blind us to an extent," she said.
The audience reportedly fell silent after the admission -- then erupted into applause.
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ADDED: There is a new scientific unit here. The 'rowling': the length of time it takes an average audience to realise that something Politically Correct has been said and respond to it as expected of them.
I have never read any Harry Potter book, never seen any Harry Potter movie and I intend to remain that way. From what I've heard from different sources, this entire franchise reeks of modernist corruption, artistically mediocre occultist shit for kiddies.
So I'm prejudiced. Sue me, my prejudices just got (once again) confirmed.
It is a commonplace among scholars who are of a New Age orientation to belittle Christian researchers who raise alarms about the sublimation of popular culture to the service of clandestine programming and ritual magick. Yet one of the points I try to make in my book is that, despite a good deal of misinformation and hysteria from Protestant Fundamentalists in this area, the interface between "harmless" mainstream children's culture and the occult is now more or less so blatant it is barely concealed.
This point was brought home with some impact at the prestigious, 14th World Jewish Congress of Jewish Studies held in late July and early August, 2005 at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. A number of Israeli scholars from the field of the occult, and especially kabbalah, participated. Dr. Avraham Elqayam of Bar-Ilan University, an exponent of the kabbalah of Rabbi Yitzhak Luria, began his lecture with a call for a genuine revolution in the study of mysticism, calling for the consolidation of "new directions" in the teaching of kabbalah, and citing the Harry Potter books as one such "new direction," with the Hogwarts School serving as a model for the Lurianic paradigm.
So, while the spectacle of some obese Fundamentalist in the Bible Belt pounding his pulpit in fulmination against "Harry Potter" may tickle the funny bones of arch-hipsters, the reality is not quite so amusing: it just so happens that the heavy-hitters of kabbalistic black magic find in Harry Potter precisely the vehicle for the inculcation of their own dark philosophies among the masses. Perhaps it's a coincidence that it was the OTO that pioneered this kind of modernist pop-cult transmission as early as the 1940s.
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/essay25.html
Petr
Rowling said Dumbledore fell in love with the charming wizard Gellert Grindelwald but when Grindelwald turned out to be more interested in the dark arts than good, Dumbledore was "terribly let down" and went on to destroy his rival.Dude, it's a book. You can't just make shit up that isn't part of the book.
Macrobius
10-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Does Wintermute still post here?
Maybe we can coax him out of hiding. Status board says he's here now.
Macrobius
10-20-2007, 09:25 PM
Dude, it's a book. You can't just make shit up that isn't part of the book.
Harry Potter: Targum edition.
Coming soon to a Barnes and Noble near you.
Keystone
10-20-2007, 09:27 PM
I hope wintermute can tease some profound meaning out of Harry Potter books.
I really do!
Keystone
10-20-2007, 09:31 PM
I don't think he's been here for the last hour, the time logs say he was looking at this:
Viewing Thread MASKING HISPANIC RACISM (against Blacks): A CUBAN CASE STUDY (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30693) @ 09:28 AM
You've chased him away by speaking about him too much!
A long essay...
Harry Potter and the Paganization of Children's Culture
by Michael D. O'Brien
"Rowling portrays Harry's victory as the fruit of esoteric knowledge and power. This is Gnosticism. Tolkien portrays Frodo's victory as the fruit of humility, obedience, and courage in a state of radical suffering. This is Christianity."
http://www.lifesite.net/features/harrypotter/obrienpotter.html
Petr
Macrobius
10-20-2007, 09:39 PM
Rowling learns the rewards of pleasing the powers that be:
Notice the news is just in time for the Halloween marketing push. Gentlemen, we have a theme.
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1674073,00.html
Rowling was clearly astonished by the positive reaction and exclaimed, "if I'd known it would make you so happy, I would have announced it years ago!"
Thomas777
10-20-2007, 09:42 PM
Most of the popular fantasy fiction always struck me as rather ''gay''...that goes double for anything written by a woman.
When I was a kid, nobody really read much fantasy fiction...other than some of the ''Dungeons and Dragons'' paperbacks that were published to augment the sales of the TSR game.
I read a lot of Robert E. Howard as a kid, and that was great stuff...I clearly remember my old man giving me everything he could find by Robert E. Howard one Christmas in order to try to tempt me to stop watching ''Conan the Barbarian'' on VHS repeatedly on weekends. For some reason, I doubt that any contemporary fantasy authors produce anything remotely analagous to Howard's stories.
Warka
10-20-2007, 09:43 PM
Maybe we can coax him out of hiding. Status board says he's here now.
What, and slap Fade in the face? ;)
Keystone
10-20-2007, 09:43 PM
I've sent him a PM asking him to come and comment on the news.
He's a delicate flower, it seems.
wintermute's a heathen and Petr has both thumbs behind his braces watching him admire his Cuban thread.
wowzers.
Thomas777
10-20-2007, 09:46 PM
Wintermute is worth reading when he chooses to post. Fair digs are fair digs but let's not rake him over the coals.
Most of the popular fantasy fiction always struck me as rather ''gay''...that goes double for anything written by a woman.
There's one famous fantasy comic aimed at early teenagers that I do happen to know, as it's translated to Finnish and sold in the very stores where I buy my food - Elfquest.
Well, in the cash line I have sometimes taken a look at them, and noticed that even thought the artwork was impressive, I got bisexual-insinuations vibes from some scenes. Elfquest is not direct about this, but more or less openly inculcates free-love ideal in hetero relationships.
And recently I stumbled on this Net newspiece which confirmed my worst suspicions - Elfquest authoress Wendy Pini is setting out to release an openly sodomy-glorifying epic, and with intentionally sinister occult undertones to boot. She also confesses that this is what has been lurking beneath the surface of her work all along:
Pini Takes a Walk on the Dark Side
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"Elfquest has brought blazing light into my life," Pini said. "It has been a true gift and a blessing, but sometimes you have to step back from the light and look at the dark side."
Poe's original story tells of a prince who shuts himself and his guests away in a castle to escape an epidemic, only to discover that even he can't hide from the outside world. "It's not really so much a story as a mood piece," said Pini, who used Poe's prince and hallucinatory visual effects as the starting point for a new world and a new cast of characters. Her story revolves around the wealthy but morally corrupt Anton, Prince Prosper, a scientist-prince who seeks to conquer death itself, and his assistant and lover, Steffan Kabala. "Prosper and Steffan have a relationship that anyone who has ever been a lover, male or female, will recognize as so intense it is bound to explode," Pini said. "These are people who have very strong hearts and see the world their way. It's the clash of those emotions that really makes the sparks fly."
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Masque is written for women 17 and up, a group that Pini thinks is underserved. "A lot of current manga, even in the boys love category, seems to be high school themed, for the 14- to 16-year-old crowd," she said. "We are aiming at a female audience and what they like to see: a strong emphasis on story, a strong emphasis on complicated characters that definitely have more than one side to them."
Pini described Masque as "R-rated." "There is a lot of adult material in Elfquest that we presented in a subtle way so it goes right over the heads of our younger readers," she said. "But having done that, I'm saying to heck with subtlety. With Masque, it's just going to be right out there."
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At this stage of her career, though, Pini said she is ready to start taking some artistic risks, and that is what Masque is all about. "There is that streak in me that loves the perverse and the dark and decadence, and loves to explore that from a safe distance," she said. "At least, I was safe. Now I'm not interested in being quite so safe any more."
http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6447102.html?nid=2789
Take notice, people: how many other fantasy-writers who are currently catering to impressionable youngsters might be just itching to release some hardcore filth to the public, and are frankly frustrated that they cannot (without hurting their mainstream sales).
I was reminded of Jesus Christ's words on "whited sepulchres" - and also this application of that parable from Henry Ford, in The International Jew, dealing with moral corruption in the popular music of the early 1920s - the writer here seems to be genuinely outraged about the topic:
Such songs are not the worst, by any means. Jewish purveyors to degenerate appetites have a peculiarly devilish system of presenting the same song in two or three grades. There will be the song as it is sold at the music store to addle-pated young men and women who fill their leisure with hearing or humming this syncopated senility—young men and women who pitiably imagine they are keeping up with the times. The songs thus sold and sung are rotten enough. But there is the same song, Class 2. The theme and the melody are the same, but it goes “a little further.” There is a line or two in each stanza which dips below even the low standard which Jewish “jazz” has permitted in some of our parlors. And there is Class 3—same theme, same melody—but “going the limit.”
Young men about town usually know Class 2 and Class 3. The instance has been known that young women have become acquainted with these lower grades also. Forgetfulness by young men while singing at the piano evenings has given hints of the filthier version. And even where version 1 has been strictly adhered to, the mutual knowledge, politely concealed, has created an atmosphere far from wholesome.
The diabolical cunning with which an unclean atmosphere is created and sustained through all classes of society and by the same influence, will not be overlooked by any observer. There is something Satanic about it, something calculated with demonic shrewdness. And the stream flows on and on, growing worse and worse, to the degradation of the non-Jewish public and the increase of Jewish fortunes.
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Intl_Jew_full_version/ij47.htm
The general directors of the whole downward trend have been Jews. It needed just their touch of cleverness to camouflage the moral filth and raise it half a degree above the natural stage where it begets nothing but disgust. They cannot gild the lily, but they can veil the skunk-cabbage, and that is exactly what has been done. The modern popular song is a whited sepulcher, sparkling without, but within full of the dead bones of all the old disgusting indecencies. Plain print returns them to their rightful status of disgust.
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Intl_Jew_full_version/ij48.htm
One might call this whole envelope-pushing phenomenon as popular culture's version of esoteric step-by-step initiation (or seduction) as practised by secret societies - you're not immediately exposed to materials that would make you turn away in disgust, but slowly sucked into the atmosphere until you're ready for raunchier stuff.
Petr
Thomas777
10-20-2007, 10:35 PM
There's one famous fantasy comic aimed at early teenagers that I do happen to know, as it's translated to Finnish and sold in the very stores where I buy my food - Elfquest.
Well, in the cash line I have sometimes taken a look at them, and noticed that even thought the artwork was impressive, I got bisexual-insinuations vibes from some scenes. Elfquest is not direct about this, but more or less openly inculcates free-love ideal in hetero relationships.
And recently I stumbled on this Net newspiece which confirmed my worst suspicions - Elfquest authoress Wendy Pini is setting out to release an openly sodomy-glorifying epic, and with intentionally sinister occult undertones to boot. She also confesses that this is what has been lurking beneath the surface of her work all along:
There is certainly a lack of thematic subtlety that pervades the fantastical landscapes created by the fairer sex...Fantasy is just that: Fantasy. I think the sorts of creative flights of the female mind that give rise to pop fiction tend to involve utopias of a sort where everybody is a woman, in search of physical affection and the satisfaction of petty vengence.
I'm not so sure if this type of thing is dispositive of occultic tendencies...I'd probably posit it as something that enjoys a wide audience on account of a prevailing culture that is anti-intellectual, hedonistic, and devoid of a genuine spiritual Tradition.
Keystone
10-20-2007, 10:37 PM
Ah, I see. I know all too well how those kind of conflicts can make people want to avoid others, welcome to my family. My mother's parents are Roman Catholic and my fathers family are Protestant. I am always amazed at how childish they can be when dealing with each other. I can empathise with you regarding this.
RC mother and Lutheran father, although they didn't fight about it at all. The immigrant grandparents did.
I was raised RC and my dad went to his own church. No problems because my parents were relaxed about this stuff.
There is certainly a lack of thematic subtlety that pervades the fantastical landscapes created by the fairer sex...Fantasy is just that: Fantasy. I think the sorts of creative flights of the female mind that give rise to pop fiction tend to involve utopias of a sort where everybody is a woman, in search of physical affection and the satisfaction of petty vengence.
I was also reminded of this piece that I posted back when Brokeback Mountain came out, detailing how homosexual propaganda is being cynically peddled to masses.
It is well known how lesbian softcore porn imagery is being used to seduce and corrupt males, but less well known how gay porn is similarly aimed at young females:
The promotion of gay men to women has seen a real upswing in the past 10 years or so. Every sitcom has a funny gay character, and of course he's the funniest, least inhibited and most able to communicate with women. Queer Eye For The Straight Guy tells women that gay men are superior to the knuckle dragging neanderthal you have at home. When the Queer Eye fab five went on Oprah, "normal housewives screamed and swooned like schoolgirls cheering rockstars. But the agenda goes deeper, the plan is to get women interested in gay porn as an addictive and isolating tool of division. Sex In The City, shows women sitting together giggling while watching gay porn. The biggest thrust in this wave is coming out of Japan and targeting your preteen daughters. It's called Yaoi.
Yaoi is a massive multi-million dollar subculture providing young girls with comic books and animated films depicting gay romantic love between handsome boys, culminating in explicit hard core homosexual pornography. The tide of this material represents a generation of girls whose misdirected sexuality is being warped in an unnatural direction. Traveling extensively, I warn you this epidemic is rampant throughout Europe, Russia, Asia, and now making heavy inroads into the Americas. Parents have no idea what their young girls have tucked under their mattresses, or hidden in closets and computers. Scores of websites are devoted to young girls fiction describing their fantasies of young men in popular music, tv, film, etc, all engaged in romantic "love and gay sex.
Teen girls rapidly become obsessed with Yaoi and find it an entry drug to other shows like Queer As Folk, and gay hardcore. Many discuss openly their confusion about sex, not wanting a husband or baby, or angst ridden with their own experimentation towards bisexuality and lesbianism. Of course, they,re all buzzing about Brokeback.
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=3577&highlight=brokeback
Wendy Pini obviously wants to make her new epic like Western-style Yaoi.
Petr
Helios Panoptes
10-20-2007, 11:54 PM
The most off-putting thing about HP is that adults read it. Crazy. Personally, all I know about it is that HP is a wizard and he's played in the movies by an effeminate British kid.
The most off-putting thing about HP is that adults read it. Crazy. Personally, all I know about it is that HP is a wizard and he's played in the movies by an effeminate British kid.I've never seen a non-effeminate British kid.
Roland
10-21-2007, 12:09 AM
The most off-putting thing about HP is that adults read it. Crazy. Personally, all I know about it is that HP is a wizard and he's played in the movies by an effeminate British kid.
I agree. Another fun fact: the first HP book was titled Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, but publishers worried that our delicate American consumer-sensibilities might be put off by a title referencing such a sober topic as "philosophy," so the the title was Americanized to Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. "Sorcerer" no doubt appeals to the childlike American psyche more than "Philosopher," which is apparently only attractive to the hifalutin British mind.
Thomas777
10-21-2007, 12:35 AM
I've never seen a non-effeminate British kid.
All I can tell you is that when I was hanging around in London, it struck me as a very, very bad idea to pick a fight with the local, working-class youngbloods.
brigadier Biggles
10-21-2007, 01:19 AM
The most off-putting thing about HP is that adults read it. Crazy. Personally, all I know about it is that HP is a wizard and he's played in the movies by an effeminate British kid.
and thats its been going on for nearly a decade now fucking Harry Pothead and the curse of rowling.
All I can tell you is that when I was hanging around in London, it struck me as a very, very bad idea to pick a fight with the local, working-class youngbloods.
you mean the eastern europeans?.
Fissile
10-21-2007, 02:13 AM
Rowling is typical of the hypocritical/schizoid twats that infest the West these days. Her pre-HP bio reads like that of millions of self important skanks who are going to save the world in between vacations to happening hot spots and shopping trips for cute shoes.
She started off as a middle class kid who grew up to be a radical leftist, ultimately working for Amnesty International. After this, she tramped around Europe, the Mediterranean parts at least, got married for a short time to a Portuguese man, and ended up back in the UK as a divorced single mother on welfare(the "dole" in Brit-speak).
Today the capitalist system she so despised has made her one of the richest women in the world -- estimates place her net worth at, or near, $1 billion. The former parlor-pinko is very sensitive about money matters and refuses to discuss her cash hoard in public.
Miss Rowling fancies herself a feminist, yet she has no problems with spending large amounts of money on bourgeoisie self indulgences such as plastic surgery. She had her droopy, old lady boobs inflated to stripper proportions, an accomplishment she seems quite proud of -- she seems to enjoy flashing pre-pubescent children who come to her book signings.
All I can tell you is that when I was hanging around in London, it struck me as a very, very bad idea to pick a fight with the local, working-class youngbloods.That right, mate?
brigadier Biggles
10-21-2007, 02:52 AM
That right, mate?
i know its shocking to hear inner city youth might be a bit anti-social and violent.
il ragno
10-21-2007, 03:24 AM
The main reason I've never been to The Green And Pleasant was two sets of friends who went and got more-or-less stomped by yobbos at year-apart intervals. I said fuggit and opted for the Keys and Bahamas for the rest of the decade, my vacation dollar being too hard-earned for me to wanna memorize a laundry-list of warnings and don'ts.
harjit
10-21-2007, 03:30 AM
I hope wintermute can tease some profound meaning out of Harry Potter books.
I really do!
'Mute is basically a more eloquent WFHermans. His agony over what the Jews are doing to his race is also more intense, almost poignant (amazingly I'm typing this with a straight face).
harjit
10-21-2007, 03:36 AM
The main reason I've never been to The Green And Pleasant was two sets of friends who went and got more-or-less stomped by yobbos at year-apart intervals. I said fuggit and opted for the Keys and Bahamas for the rest of the decade, my vacation dollar being too hard-earned for me to wanna memorize a laundry-list of warnings and don'ts.
A Jew Yorker afraid to go to Londonistan, what's the world coming to.
il ragno
10-21-2007, 03:42 AM
A Jew Yorker afraid to go to Londonistan, what's the world coming to.
Yeah. Who in their right mind would want to take a beautiful woman to white sands and palm trees and tropic breezes and tall drinks - when they could be drinking warm beer under gray skies and worrying about getting rolled by people with rotten teeth? It's just crazy.
Jake Featherston
10-21-2007, 06:43 AM
The most off-putting thing about HP is that adults read it. Crazy.
Yes. My son doesn't read the books but he apparently likes the movies, and I don't know enough about it to know if I should be bothered by that or not (yeah, its obviously degenerate crap, but you can't grow up in America today without liking some degenerate crap, unfortunately, since that category encompasses virtually the entire popular culture these days), but one thing I do know for sure; adults who read it are fucking idiots. The cut-off age should be no more than 15.
Thomas777
10-21-2007, 08:21 AM
That right, mate?
I know it sounds crazy, but there is a world outside of internets and television.
Thomas777
10-21-2007, 08:23 AM
you mean the eastern europeans?.
No, they were full-blooded Limeys. This was about ten years ago, but I have a hard time believing that these days the only ''hard men'' in London are Slavs and Yardies.
Reminds me of the country types from DeKalb who claim that only Blacks live in Chicago.
Anarch
10-21-2007, 09:19 AM
ROFLMAO. She's a fucking wanker. 'I hope he recovered'. He's a fucking invented character, goddamn! Is she actually on acid or is she indulging her pathetic fans in this stupid alternative universe when they get so wrapped up in they start to behave as if it's real, just 'in another universe, far far away'? LOL.
Ahknaton
10-21-2007, 09:28 AM
Yes. My son doesn't read the books but he apparently likes the movies, and I don't know enough about it to know if I should be bothered by that or not (yeah, its obviously degenerate crap, but you can't grow up in America today without liking some degenerate crap, unfortunately, since that category encompasses virtually the entire popular culture these days), but one thing I do know for sure; adults who read it are fucking idiots. The cut-off age should be no more than 15.
When the latest one came out I was staying at my cousin's house and was killing some time on the internet on a laptop in the lounge, and read about the big commotion over the launch, with people camping out in front of bookstores like Star Wars nerds before a premiere. I said something like "damn, I don't understand the fuss over this stupid book, can you believe that people posted reader reviews for it on the net less than 12 hours after it was released?" So she looks up from the book she's reading on the couch and goes "Oooh, don't tell me the ending, I'm only halfway through!" and I notice that the book she's holding in her hand was Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. This was less than a week after it came out. :rolleyes:
Rowling is typical of the hypocritical/schizoid twats that infest the West these days. Her pre-HP bio reads like that of millions of self important skanks who are going to save the world in between vacations to happening hot spots and shopping trips for cute shoes.
To put it succinctly, she's a "bobo". A bourgeois bohemian who wants the best of both worlds.
Petr
when they could be drinking warm beer under gray skies and worrying about getting rolled by people with rotten teeth? It's just crazy.
Only the bolded stereotype holds true :p. Beer isn't served warm, and more often than not it's served chilled.
I've never understood the teeth stereotype? Is it because American celebrities have a fascination with pulling all of theirs out and replacing them? There was not a massive difference between peoples mouths when I was in America compared to here.
I've never understood the teeth stereotype? Is it because American celebrities have a fascination with pulling all of theirs out and replacing them? There was not a massive difference between peoples mouths when I was in America compared to here.I thought the British weren't big on braces, where as we are.
I thought the British weren't big on braces, where as we are.
Loads of British kids wear braces. I used to. :p
Felix the Cat
10-21-2007, 08:54 PM
May have something to do with fluoridation, which has never been very popular in Britain
sugartits
10-21-2007, 09:00 PM
A character in a series of fantasy novels/movies can 'come out of the closet'....? This is bonkers. Rowling is a witch, getting her audience so emotionally attached that her fictitious characters seem very real. "OMG I sooo knew he was gay! He's one of us, Bruce! Can you believe it?!"
"Harry Potter and the Rainbow Rod" ?
Keystone
10-21-2007, 09:04 PM
A character in a series of fantasy novels/movies can 'come out of the closet'....? This is bonkers. Rowling is a witch, getting her audience so emotionally attached that her fictitious characters seem very real. "OMG I sooo knew he was gay! He's one of us, Bruce! Can you believe it?!"
"Harry Potter and the Rainbow Rod" ?
He's a Gay Icon now.
May have something to do with fluoridation, which has never been very popular in Britain
All of our tap water contains flouride. :confused: Whether it's popular or not (though I have never heard that it is particularily disliked) doesn't change the fact that it is there.
As for the OP: I started reading the Harry Potter books when I was small, I never imagined Dumbledore being gay and I probably won't start.
Felix the Cat
10-21-2007, 09:14 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation
As of May 2000, 42 of the 50 largest U.S. cities have water fluoridation. According to a 2002 study, 67% of Americans are living in communities with fluoridated water. As of 2001, 19 states have at least 75% of their population receiving fluoridated water.
In the United Kingdom 10% of the population receives fluoridated water - including two major cities: Birmingham and Newcastle upon Tyne.
Keystone
10-21-2007, 09:17 PM
This is like Ian Fleming coming out and saying 007 swung both ways.
Whatever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation
That's news to me! I always took for granted that there was flouride in my water.
Thank god for :google:
Jake Featherston
10-21-2007, 09:20 PM
Winston Smith in 1984 used to get his rocks off by drilling a hole into a cantaloupe.
Macrobius
10-21-2007, 09:25 PM
He's a Gay Icon now.
Worse, there are already kid puppet show with a gay Dumbledore on YouTube.
The Mills of Cultural Marxism grind fine -- and at the speed of light.
Jake: Winston Smith works in the Fanfic department of MiniTrue now. This latest development is Doublepluth ungood. Refth unperthonth.
Sorry. That was un-PC. I'm supposed to call him Mrs Winny Smith now, since the operation. He really *does* love Big Brother now.
Winston
10-21-2007, 10:48 PM
I thought the British weren't big on braces, where as we are.
Orthodontics is commonplace these days, and on the whole poor British dental hygiene is a thing of the past.
brigadier Biggles
10-22-2007, 02:56 AM
The main reason I've never been to The Green And Pleasant was two sets of friends who went and got more-or-less stomped by yobbos at year-apart intervals. I said fuggit and opted for the Keys and Bahamas for the rest of the decade, my vacation dollar being too hard-earned for me to wanna memorize a laundry-list of warnings and don'ts.
where did your friends go?, some shitty town centre to get a girl with nigger bouncers everywhere?.
i took these pic this morning its not the bahamas but looks nice enough to me uncle raggers.
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cerberus
10-22-2007, 12:02 PM
Harry Potter - high Culture , a best selling series of books but it is not Charlie Dickens is it ?
Keystone
10-22-2007, 11:13 PM
Harry Potter - high Culture , a best selling series of books but it is not Charlie Dickens is it ?
Not by a long road.
brigadier Biggles
10-23-2007, 01:07 AM
Harry Potter - high Culture , a best selling series of books but it is not Charlie Dickens is it ?
you should see school libraries they value this PC BS above dickens and co.
Crowley
10-23-2007, 02:35 AM
ADDED: There is a new scientific unit here. The 'rowling': the length of time it takes an average audience to realise that something Politically Correct has been said and respond to it as expected of them.
Incoming rep!
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/oct/07102505.html
Thursday October 25, 2007
Harry Potter Author Plays Dumb: Acts Surprised at Reactions to Gay Character
By Meg Jalsevac
TORONTO, October 25, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - In an interview with media in Toronto, Canada on Tuesday, Harry Potter author, J.K. Rowling said that she has been surprised by the scope of reactions that have surfaced from her announcement that one of her lead characters is gay. "It has certainly never been news to me that a brave and brilliant man could love other men."
As previously reported by LifeSiteNews.com, Rowling surprised a large audience at a recent book reading in Carnegie Hall by announcing the 'good' wizard of her storyline was gay. Reaction to the announcement has been mixed with even some Potter fans accusing the author of using the politically correct declaration for publicity.
Rowling said that she had known for a long time that Dumbledore was gay but had not revealed the fact in order to be able to focus her attention on the plot line and character development. Rowling said that she shared the information about Dumbledore only after being directly asked by a young audience member if Dumbledore ever found true love.
Rowling told the Toronto media that the revelation was very "freeing" for her and that only certain people will view Dumbledore differently in light of the new detail about his character. Referring to Dumbledore's boyhood friendship with the evil Grindelwald, Rowling said, "I think a child will see a friendship and I think a sensitive adult may well understand that it was an infatuation."
The author lauded her own admission saying, "I know that it was a positive thing that I said it, for at least one person, because one man 'came out' at Carnegie Hall."
Rowling refused to answer when asked if she was concerned that the 'revelation' might solidify critics in their dislike of the internationally popular children's book series. "[Dumbledore] is my character. He is what he is and I have the right to say what I say about him."
In the past, Rowling has been known to disparage critics of her books referring to them as "lunatic fringes" of Christianity.
According to an article on WorldNetDaily, Linda Harvey, the president of Mission America, has been a long time critic of Rowling's works and asserts that this latest 'revelation', in itself, reveals Rowling's ability as a "master manipulator." Mission America is an organization that combats the forces of the homosexual and pagan agendas particularly when theses forces are directed at children.
Harvey says, "The affiliations have taken hold. No matter how you try to shield kids, they are sure to learn online or at school or somewhere that the admired headmaster of the Hogwart's school, professor Dumbledore, has been pronounced "gay" after the series is complete."
Harvey cautions that Rowling's decision will now force all parents to address the issue of homosexuality with their young children. "Will we allow our kids to believe it would be perfectly appropriate for the headmaster of any school to be homosexual?"
Harvey warns that if parents do not react to Harry Potter now the consequences will be dire. "If only [parents] could see down the road to the compromise of morality this will produce as their children grow, not to mention the detour directly away from authentic Christian faith, they might think differently."
Read the entire WorldNetDaily article:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58299
Kodos
10-29-2007, 04:20 AM
All I can tell you is that when I was hanging around in London, it struck me as a very, very bad idea to pick a fight with the local, working-class youngbloods.
Most bad neighborhoods picking a fight with the local yoots is a very very bad idea.
They outnumber you and they're probably armed (and in London like the NE most of the law abiding class has been forcibly disarmed). Very bad combination in a fight.
Thomas777
10-29-2007, 04:56 AM
Most bad neighborhoods picking a fight with the local yoots is a very very bad idea.
They outnumber you and they're probably armed (and in London like the NE most of the law abiding class has been forcibly disarmed). Very bad combination in a fight.
I don't want to hijack Macrobius' thread, but the point I was making is that this meme of ''Whites don't fight'' seems to be something of an internet fiction that is perpetuated by people who draw inferences about the real world from alarmist, racial websites.
I'm by no means a wordly soul who has been to the far corners of the Earth, but three places that did in fact strike me as some of the worst venues to start a fight in the world were Anchorage AK, London England, and Bridgeport here in Chicago...coincidentally, I was surrounded by White folks at all locations referenced and I made it a point to tread lightly.
Harvey cautions that Rowling's decision will now force all parents to address the issue of homosexuality with their young children. "Will we allow our kids to believe it would be perfectly appropriate for the headmaster of any school to be homosexual?"
Related news:
43% of Teacher-Pupil Sex is Homosexual
"If the homosexual population is about 2%, then they are 20 times over-represented in the teacher-molester population. Homosexuality is a compulsive, lethal addiction. We are insane to give it legal protection."
http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/HSx/TchrPuplSex43%25Hosx.htm
Petr
ROFLMAO. She's a fucking wanker. 'I hope he recovered'. He's a fucking invented character, goddamn! Is she actually on acid or is she indulging her pathetic fans in this stupid alternative universe when they get so wrapped up in they start to behave as if it's real, just 'in another universe, far far away'? LOL.
Agreed. In my opinion, her proclamation means nothing if it isn't backed up by solid evidence in the text (which I'm not sure of, as I have never read it, and nor do I plan to).
As for the OP: I started reading the Harry Potter books when I was small, I never imagined Dumbledore being gay and I probably won't start.
On the contrary- would it be fair to assume Harry Potter is chaste- (don't know about in real life)- but the magic powers could be allegorical for wizzards who maintain purity.
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