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Watzy
01-20-2006, 01:40 PM
http://www.tportal.hr/2005/09/23/0360007.21.jpg
*Znam i da pevam...trak..trak..traktorce vozi Dragance traktorce..op..op zik zik...
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E,alo..imam jos jedno pitanjce.....Dragance je vrsni golfer...ce bre da bude golfigraliste u taj hotel,LORA.. kod Split??? :hump:
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/grinser/grinning-smiley-009.gif
http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=301944
Ace Rimmer
01-20-2006, 01:42 PM
Uhićen.
Nadajmo se da će ga naši držati u pritvoru zajedno sa ostalim zatvorenicima.
Bajlozi
01-21-2006, 03:05 PM
http://www.tportal.hr/2005/09/23/0360007.21.jpg
*Znam i da pevam...trak..trak..traktorce vozi Dragance traktorce..op..op zik zik...
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E,alo..imam jos jedno pitanjce.....Dragance je vrsni golfer...ce bre da bude golfigraliste u taj hotel,LORA.. kod Split??? :hump:
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/grinser/grinning-smiley-009.gif
http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=301944
Mongrel serbs have a special racial profile;
General Sreten (former serb general)
http://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/images/2005/04/05/IGORphoto.jpg
General Pavkovic (former serb general)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/975000/images/_978853_pavkovic150.jpg
Oliver Ivanovic (serbian leader)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39951000/jpg/_39951019_map220_ap.jpg
Ljubomir Kragovic (serbian radical party=serbian version of Neonazis)
http://www.parlament.sr.gov.yu/photo/poslanici/2004/099.jpg
http://www.parlament.sr.gov.yu/content/lat/sastav/poslanici_detalji.asp?id=870
Jebivjetar
01-21-2006, 03:13 PM
Nadajmo se da će ga naši držati u pritvoru zajedno sa ostalim zatvorenicima.Po mogučnosti da su još PTSPovci iz rata.:222:
Banat
01-21-2006, 03:27 PM
Thumbs down for the thread.
I wonder how would you react if someone posted a thread dedicated to Gotovina's arrest named as "General Cigan", and with comments like the ones you posted. Probably erase the whole thread, no doubt, like you already did with some comments you didn't like, and provoked by "posts" like the ones in this thread.
Ace Rimmer
01-21-2006, 03:29 PM
How are you Banat?
Watzy
01-21-2006, 06:02 PM
I wonder how would you react if someone posted a thread dedicated to Gotovina's arrest named as "General Cigan", and with comments like the ones you posted. Probably erase the whole thread, no doubt, like you already did with some comments you didn't like, and provoked by "posts" like the ones in this thread.
1. They have expressions and threads dedicated to ridiculing Gotovina on SF Serbia. We have not even tried to complain about it.
2. The comparison between these two cases is not adequate. Gotovina was hunted down by the international court of the colonialist oppressors (EU occupiers), while Dragan by the state where he commited crimes.
Watzy
01-21-2006, 06:27 PM
Po mogučnosti da su još PTSPovci iz rata.:222:
Ostavio je dosta zle krvi. Kladim se da bi mnogi htjeli namjerno završili s one strane rešetaka kad bi znali da će biti uz Dragančeta.
Ace Rimmer
01-21-2006, 07:25 PM
Evo još jednog člana Radikala Armenoidne rase.
http://www.parlament.sr.gov.yu/photo/poslanici/2004/046.jpg
ДУВЊАК, МОМЧИЛО
Bajlozi
01-21-2006, 07:53 PM
Mr. Dragan B. Perovic (President for one of the biggest import- export company in Serbia)
http://www.perovic.co.yu/image/dragan.jpg
http://www.perovic.co.yu/onamaengleski.htm
Bajlozi
01-21-2006, 08:01 PM
Thumbs down for the thread.
I wonder how would you react if someone posted a thread dedicated to Gotovina's arrest named as "General Cigan", and with comments like the ones you posted. Probably erase the whole thread, no doubt, like you already did with some comments you didn't like, and provoked by "posts" like the ones in this thread.
Its good to see none white people behind bars.
Banat
01-22-2006, 12:12 PM
1. They have expressions and threads dedicated to ridiculing Gotovina on SF Serbia. We have not even tried to complain about it.
They had expressions and threads dedicated to ridiculing Gotovina on SF Serbia??? Stormfront Serbia? What kind of talk is that? Unless you view "The Phora - Central Europe" as your personal playground for pissing contents and settling matters with your ex-friends from Stormfront, this is a rather absurd explanation.
2. The comparison between these two cases is not adequate. Gotovina was hunted down by the international court of the colonialist oppressors (EU occupiers), while Dragan by the state where he commited crimes.
Of course it's not "adequate". They are both viewed with strong emotions, and while one is being idealised, the other is being utterly despised. And while the thread dedicated to the arrest of the "good one" is full of explosions of impotent anger and calls for "spilling Serbian blood" and, literally, "fucking Serbian mothers" where responds to those insults were hard-deleted and whole thread locked, the other thread is named "Captain Gypsy" and turned into a senseless mockery that threats to develop into another "who is white and who isn't" picture contest.
Zrinski
01-22-2006, 12:55 PM
Dolijao "kapetan" Dragance. :D :p
Inace zar vam se ne cini da je on malo puknut u glavurdu? Ono kad su ga pokazali par puta u nekakvim intervjuima i slicnim reportazama izgleda nekako hiperaktivno i cudno se ponasa....doduse valjda i moras biti puknut kako bi radio ono sto je on radio... :rolleyes:
Watzy
01-22-2006, 02:08 PM
They had expressions and threads dedicated to ridiculing Gotovina on SF Serbia??? Stormfront Serbia? What kind of talk is that? Unless you view "The Phora - Central Europe" as your personal playground for pissing contents and settling matters with your ex-friends from Stormfront, this is a rather absurd explanation.
The best proof I do not regard TPCE as you described it is the fact you're allowed to moan and spam in my thread and that's more than any of us can expect from Serbs in any other place.
Of course it's not "adequate". They are both viewed with strong emotions, and while one is being idealized, the other is being utterly despised.
Well, that's how we feel about it. Gotovina is honored as a national hero and considered innocent by the vasts majority of Croats and even a part of Krajina Serbs, while Dragance is scorned even by the nationalist part of the Serbs.
And while the thread dedicated to the arrest of the "good one" is full of explosions of impotent anger and calls for "spilling Serbian blood" and, literally, "fucking Serbian mothers" where responds to those insults were hard-deleted and whole thread locked, the other thread is named "Captain Gypsy" and turned into a senseless mockery that threats to develop into another "who is white and who isn't" picture contest.
If you can quote and link the post mentioning "spilling Serbian blood" and "fucking Serbian mothers" it shall be deleted in an instance. In the opposite case I urge you to cut down with lies, misquotations and fake martyrdom.
Watzy
01-22-2006, 02:50 PM
Dolijao "kapetan" Dragance. :D :p
Inace zar vam se ne cini da je on malo puknut u glavurdu? Ono kad su ga pokazali par puta u nekakvim intervjuima i slicnim reportazama izgleda nekako hiperaktivno i cudno se ponasa....doduse valjda i moras biti puknut kako bi radio ono sto je on radio... :rolleyes:
Draganče je odraslo u beogradskom sirotištu. Možda zato voli koketirati i uvijati bokovima. Takav je tamo običaj...grčka geni.
Hihi Možda ga ipak nebi tribali slat na širenje guzova u Loru, već u Staru Gradišku, da rezbari tabakere.:rofl:
@Banat
Perhaps you can help us on this one... We noticed some peculiarities in Dragan's hyperactive gestures and conduct on the TV; can you tell us about the nature of his relationship to the rebelled Dr. Jovan Raskovic, the famous psychiatrist from Krajina? http://thephora.net/forum/images/icons/icon5.gif
Ace Rimmer
01-22-2006, 05:14 PM
HTV OBJAVIO SNIMKU RATNIH ZLOČINA VOJNIKA 'KAPETANA DRAGANA'
ZAGREB, 22. siječnja 2006. (Hina) - Hrvatska televizija (HTV) objavila je u subotu na večer snimku koja, kako je najavila, svjedoči o zločinima koje su počinili pripadnici paravojnih postrojba podređenih Draganu Vasiljkoviću, poznatijem kao kapetan Dragan.
Video snimku nabavili su i Dnevniku dostavili hrvatski branitelji, a ona potkrepljuje navode iz optužnice protiv Vasiljkovića koja govori o ubijanju civila, pljački i paležu na području Banovine, rekao je urednik Dnevnika.
Jedna od točaka otužnice Vasiljkovića tereti da je pripremao napad na sela Gornji i Donji Viduševac u glinskoj općini u rujnu 1991., a u istom prilogu HTV-a o tim je danima govorio umirovljeni pukovnik Hrvatske vojske Ivica Pandža - Orkan.
On je rekao da je kapetan Dragan "osobno isplanirao akciju zauzimanja policijske postaje u Glini te zajedno s oficirima JNA napravio plan zauzimanja sela od Gline prema Kupi - Gornjeg i Donjeg Viduševca, u kojima su počinjeni ratni zločini".
"Vojnici kapetana Dragana na području Sisačko-moslavačke županije počinili su najteže ratne zločine čiji je rezultat 2100 ubijenih, a o tome svjedoči 2100 grobova", rekao je Pandža.
Osim toga, kapetana Dragana se tereti da je u lipnju i srpnju 1991. na području Knina i Benkovca mučio i ubijao zarobljene pripadnike Hrvatske vojske i policije.
Nekadašnji zapovjednik srpskih paravojnih snaga u Hrvatskoj, a sada australski državljanin Dragan Vasiljković, poznatiji kao kapetan Dragan, uhićen je u petak u Sydneyju na temelju međunarodne tjeralice koju je za njim raspisala Hrvatska.
Ministrica pravosuđa Vesna Škare Ožbolt izjavila je u petak da će Hrvatska poslati Australiji službeni zahtjev za izručenjem Dragana Vasiljkovića čim sa šibenskoga Županijskog suda dobije kompletnu dokumentaciju o ratnim zločinima za koje se sumnjiči kapetana Dragana.
(Hina) (http://www.hina.hr/nws-bin/gnews.cgi?TOP=hot&NID=hot/politika/H1221367.5yp)
Watzy
01-27-2006, 08:10 AM
Kapetanu Draganu odbijeno puštanje uz jamčevinu
BIVŠI kapetan paravojnih postrojbi samoproglašene Republike Srpske Krajine Dragan Vasiljković, pojavio se u petak pred australskim sudom koji ga je odbio pustiti na slobodu uz jamčevinu.
Vasiljkovićev odvjetnik George Drača prije dva dana je najavio izlazak pred Vrhovni sud Australije kojem namjerava iznijeti stav kako je uhićenje njegovog klijenta neustavno i nezakonito.
Na današnjem očitovanju Vasiljkovićeva obrana je očito htjela osigurati da osumnjičenik nastavak procesa čeka na slobodi, ali je sudac Allan Moore odbio ispuniti taj zahtjev.
Na saslušanju u Središnjem okružnom sudu u Sydneyu sudac Allan Moore odbio je zahtjev da se Vasiljković, koji je saslušanje pratio video-vezom iz zatvora u zapadnom dijelu Sydneya, pusti na slobodu do početka rasprave o tome hoće li biti izručen Hrvatskoj
Sudac je rekao kako ga Vasiljkovićeva obrana nije uspjela uvjeriti u opravdanost zahtjeva za puštanjem jer postoje osobite okolnosti vezane uz slučaj, radi kojih nije bio u mogućnosti odobriti jamčevinu, javljaju australski mediji.
Moore nije precizirao o kojim je okolnostima riječ, ali s obzirom da se radi o teškim optužbama za kršenje ratnog prava i počinjenje ratnih zločina, te da je Hrvatska zatražila Vasiljkovićevo izručenje, jasno je kako slučaj ima i osjetljivu političku dimenziju.
"Kapetan Dragan" tako ostaje u pritvoru, u kojem ga australske vlasti smiju zadržati maksimalno 60 dana do donošenja konačne odluke o izručenju.
Iduće pojavljivanje pred sudom zakazano je za 10. veljače.
I.K.
http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=303283
Ace Rimmer
02-19-2006, 09:51 PM
Dragana Vasiljkovića "otkrila" je predsjednica Društva srpsko-židovskog prijateljstva
Kapetana Dragana dovela Klara Mandić
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/system/galleries/pics/060217/svi-kapetana-txt.jpg
Beogradska zubarica Klara Mandić osoba je koja je Kapetana Dragana dovela u Srbiju i bila mu glavni "sponzor". Rođena je 1944. u židovskom logoru blizu Barija. Kao devetomjesečnu bebu, posvojila ju je beogradska trgovačka obitelj Mandić. Evo kako ju je ugledna kanadska spisateljica Erna Paris opisala: "Bilo bi razumno očekivati da Židovi koji su znali nešto o genocidu prvi progovore protiv etničkog čišćenja, i da su to učinili, možda bi imali snažan moralni utjecaj. Iz tog je razloga pozivanje na stav Židova bio prioritet srpskim nacionalistima, koji su vjerovali... u golem židovski utjecaj diljem svijeta. Kao Židovka, Klara je bila neprocjenjiva propagatorica. Nakon Titove smrti ugrabila je, kaže, svoju priliku."
Predložila je srpskim i židovskim intelektualcima da objave istinu kako se Srbi nikada u povijesti nisu uključili u antisemitizam. Tako je 1987. s deset visokih uglednika SANU, uključujući Dobricu Ćosića, utemeljila Društvo srpsko-židovskog prijateljstva. Slobodan Milošević dao mu je svoj blagoslov.
Srbi i Židovi
E. Paris nastavlja: "Dok se Srbija pripremala za novi rat, širila se priča o tome da su Srbi spašavali Židove. Izrael je bio najbolje mjesto za kampanju. Klara nije govorila samo o svojim uvjerenjima. Radovan Karadžić bio je voljen, poštovan prijatelj (na glasu kao njezin ljubavnik) i počasni član njezina Društva... Kampanja koja se temeljila na kooptiranju židovskog primjera donijela je bujice negodovanja s različitih strana. Prvo je Memorandum proglasio da Srbi imaju isto pravo na svetu obećanu zemlju (Kosovo) kao i Židovi, zasnovanu na njihovoj genocidnoj patnji. Potom je srpski pisac i političar Vuk Drašković napisao otvoreno pismo izraelskim piscima, zahtijevajući svaku stopu Kosova kao Jeruzalem i da su Srbi bili trinaesto izgubljeno i najnesretnije izraelsko pleme. Srbi više nisu bili samo slični Židovima, sada su oni bili Židovi. Uz Miloševićevu potporu, Klara Mandić organizirala je srpski tjedan u Izraelu kako bi unaprijedila poslovanje, kulturu i turizam..."
Klarina najbolja prijateljica bila je Dafina Milanović, vlasnica Dafiment banke. Njih dvije Karadžić je imenovao za savjetnice svoga predsjedništva. Kada ga je Biljana Plavšić upitala za razlog toga imenovanja, Radovan joj je odgovorio: "Klara Mandić sposobna je žena u svakom pogledu i ima dobre veze s Izraelom. Objesi Davidovu zvijezdu oko vrata, i nama se sva vrata otvaraju."
Davidova zvijezda
Želeći pridonijeti Srbiji i na vojnom planu, odlučila je dovesti profesionalne vojnike iz inozemstva za obuku četničkih paravojnih jedinica koje su se tada formirale. Rezultat te njezine akcije bio je Dragan Vasiljković, poznat kao Kapetan Dragan. On je kao dijete napustio Srbiju i radio kao plaćeni ubojica u raznim zemljama. Nekoliko godina prije povratka u Srbiju radio je u Australiji, a među zemljama u kojima je obavljao svoj "posao" bio je i Izrael. U Srbiji se govorilo da je Dragan uistinu bio židovskog podrijetla. Klara je pozvala Dragana u Srbiju i bila mu "sponzor". Odsjeo je u njezinoj kući kraj crkve Sv. Save na Vračaru i tu je neko vrijeme imao svoj stožer.
Židovski general
Da bi ga predstavila javnosti, Klara je organizirala konferenciju za novinare. Na njoj se Dragan "s licem koje ne poznaje pojam osmijeha", s povećom Davidovom zvijezdom oko vrata, pojavio pred kamerama. Na pitanje zašto je to učinila, odgovorila je: "Ovu značku objesila sam mu zato što sam željela da Tuđman ima noćne more. Želim da vidi kako napreduje od Krajine do Zagreba židovski general Dragan na čelu izraelskih jedinica. Kada sam to ispričala Miloševiću, dugo smo se smijali."
Kad je zapala u financijske teškoće, Klara je prodala svoju kuću i preselila se u trosobni stan na Bežanijskoj kosi. Iz toga stana 10. svibnja 2001. pojavio se dim. Kada su vatrogasci razbili blindirana vrata stana, našli su je mrtvu, a vatra joj je već bila zahvatila dio tijela. Policija je ubrzo ustanovila da ju je ubio Nikola Živković s namjerom da je opljačka. Bio je to zet čovjeka kome je prodala kuću. I tako Klara neće doživjeti dolazak Kapetana Dragana u Zagreb, doduše ne na čelu pobjedničkih jedinica nego s lisičinama na rukama.
http://www.vecernji-list.hr/newsroom/news/international/485834/index.do
Ace Rimmer
02-19-2006, 10:11 PM
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The ZOG established court in Hague and ZOG Croatian government led by Jewish justice minister is after
WHITE Serbian hero and White Nationalist hero who has done so much for White Race
fighting the ZOG and Turks at the same time for White Europe! (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=264049&highlight=dragan)
Rahoma!!!
18/44
WPWPWW !!! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-008.gif http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sauer/angry-smiley-012.gif http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-039.gif
Waurms
02-25-2006, 03:17 PM
Sigis Hails!
Dajte još ciganskih likova!
Tko je taj Banat?Je li on Hrvat?Ako nije što radi ovdje?
Waurms
Watzy
03-01-2006, 04:28 PM
Man who could condemn Captain Cigan for war crimes (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,18319913%255E2702,00.html)
Watzy
03-20-2006, 08:29 PM
Eto, napokon je sigurno da će Kapetan Cigan naći svoj grob u Hrvatskoj. http://www.crnalegija.com/neu_forum/images/smiles/icon_fU.gifhttp://www.crnalegija.com/neu_forum/images/smiles/icon_axe.gifhttp://www.crnalegija.com/neu_forum/images/smiles/icon_fU.gif
Australija će izručiti Kapetana Dragana Hrvatskoj
AUSTRALSKI ministar pravosuđa Chris Ellison donio je konačnu odluku u slučaju Dragana Vasiljkovića, srpskog ratnog zločinca poznatijeg pod nadimkom Kapetan Dragan.
Kako je u ponedjeljak ujutro na ročištu održanom u Središnjem lokalnom sudu u Sydneyu potvrdila predstavnica Ureda državnog odvjetnika Australije, Ellison je prihvatio zahtjev Republike Hrvatske za izručenjem Dragana Vasiljkovića.
Kako doznajemo iz hrvatskog Ministarstva pravosuđa, time je i formalno započeo proces Vasiljkovićevog izručenje Hrvatskog, kojeg šibensko Županijsko državno odvjetništvo tereti za ratne zločine počinjene početkom 90-ih na teritoriju RH.
No, u Ministarstvu kažu kako se unatoč odluci prvostupanjskog suda još uvijek ne može govoriti o eventualnom datumu završetka procesa izručenja, budući da isti može potrajati.
Kapetan Dragan može se žaliti na odluku o izručenju, a njegova žalba može biti rješena vraćanjem na prvostupanjski sud ili potrvđivanjem prvotne odluke o izručenju.
Nekadašnji zapovjednik srpskih paravojnih snaga u Hrvatskoj, a sada australski državljanin uhićen je 20. siječnja u Sydneyju na temelju međunarodne tjeralice koju je za njim raspisala Hrvatska. Hrvatska je od tada imala rok od 60 dana da službeno zatraži njegovo izručenje.
Šibensko Županijsko državno odvjetništvo Vasiljkovića tereti da je kao zapovjednik jedinice za posebne namjene u sastavu paravojnih srpskih postrojba, odnosno zapovjednik nastavnog centra za obuku pripadnika specijalnih postrojba "Alfa", postupao protivno odredbama Ženevske konvencije.
Osumnjičen je da je u lipnju i srpnju 1991. u zatvoru na kninskoj tvrđavi te u veljači 1993. u Bruškoj kod Benkovca mučio, zlostavljao i ubijao zarobljene pripadnike hrvatske vojske i policije. Tereti ga se i da je kao zapovjednik jedinica za posebne namjene u srpnju 1991. u Glini, u dogovoru sa zapovjednikom tenkovske jedinice JNA, izradio plan napada i zauzimanja glinske Policijske postaje, prigradskog naselja Jukinca, te sela Gornjeg i Donjeg Viduševca.
Tijekom tog napada, protivno odredbama Ženevske konvencije, oštećene su i uništene civilne zgrade, stanovništvo je natjerano u bijeg, opljačkana im je imovina, a ubijeni su i ranjeni civili među kojima i jedan strani novinar.
Vasiljković je te optužbe odbacio, a međunarodnu tjeralicu koju su hrvatske vlasti raspisale za njim ocijenio kao pokušaj Zagreba da vrši pritisak na Srbe.
Index.hr/Hina
http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=311370
Ace Rimmer
06-16-2006, 10:37 AM
AUSTRALSKI VRHOVNI SUD ODBACIO ARGUMENTE KAPETANA DRAGANA
SYDNEY, 15. lipnja 2006. (Hina/AP) - Najviši australski sud u četvrtak je odbacio pokušaj Dragana Vasiljkovića, poznatoga i kao kapetan Dragan, da onemogući izručenje Hrvatskoj gdje je optužen za ratne zločine.
Nekadašnji zapovjednik srpskih paravojnih snaga u Hrvatskoj, a sada australski državljanin, uhićen je 20. siječnja u Sydneyju na temelju međunarodne tjeralice koju je za njim raspisala Hrvatska.
Hrvatska početkom veljače Australiji je i službeno uputila zahtjev za izručenjem Vasiljkovića.
Vasiljkovićev odvjetnik je tvrdio da ga Australija ne smije izručiti Hrvatskoj jer s njom nije potpisala ugovor o izručivanju te da ga, iz istoga razloga, i australske vlasti ilegalno drže u pritvoru.
Vrhovni je sud prihvatio ocjenu australske vlade da Vasiljković može biti izručen na temelju Ugovora o izručivanju zemalja Commonwealtha pa će se postupak protiv Vasiljkovića nastaviti 12. srpnja na lokalnome sudu u Sydneyu.
Šibensko Županijsko državno odvjetništvo Vasiljkovića tereti da je kao zapovjednik jedinice za posebne namjene u sastavu paravojnih srpskih postrojba, odnosno zapovjednik nastavnog centra za obuku pripadnika specijalnih postrojba "Alfa", postupao protivno odredbama Ženevskih konvencija.
Osumnjičen je da je u lipnju i srpnju 1991. u zatvoru na kninskoj tvrđavi te u veljači 1993. u Bruškoj kod Benkovca mučio, zlostavljao i ubijao zarobljene pripadnike hrvatske vojske i policije.
Tereti ga se i da je kao zapovjednik jedinica za posebne namjene u srpnju 1991. u Glini, u dogovoru sa zapovjednikom tenkovske jedinice JNA, izradio plan napada i zauzimanja glinske policijske postaje, prigradskog naselja Jukinca, te sela Gornjeg i Donjeg Viduševca.
Tijekom tog napada, protivno odredbama Ženevskih konvencija, oštećene su i uništene civilne zgrade, stanovništvo je natjerano u bijeg, opljačkana im je imovina, a ubijeni su i ranjeni civili među kojima i jedan strani novinar.
(Hina) (http://www.hina.hr/nws-bin/gnews.cgi?TOP=hot&NID=hot/politika/H6157880.4yp)
Watzy
06-18-2006, 11:32 AM
AUSTRALSKI VRHOVNI SUD ODBACIO ARGUMENTE KAPETANA DRAGANA
(Hina) (http://www.hina.hr/nws-bin/gnews.cgi?TOP=hot&NID=hot/politika/H6157880.4yp)
The noose is getting tighter !! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aktion/action-smiley-047.gif
Watzy
07-30-2006, 10:46 PM
Dragan death case reopened
July 31, 2006
THE arrest of accused war criminal Dragan Vasiljkovic has prompted Munich prosecutors to reopen the case of a German journalist they believe was murdered by the former golf instructor's paramilitary troops.
Egon Scotland, 42, bled to death after being shot by a sniper's bullet while travelling in a car with other reporters near the town of Glina, Croatia, during an ambush by Mr Vasiljkovic's army in July 1991.
The alleged atrocity is documented in an arrest warrant drawn up by Croatian prosecutors and sent to the Australian Government immediately before Mr Vasiljkovic's arrest in Sydney in January.
The warrant, Mr Vasiljkovic's pending extradition from Australia and the looming indictment of the former commando by a Croatian court have given Munich police hope that they will finally lay charges over Scotland's murder, according to a report in the Munich daily Suddeutsche Zeitung.
Mr Scotland's widow, Christiane Schlotzer, told The Australian of her enormous relief that the dual Serb-Australian citizen was in a Sydney jail awaiting extradition to Croatia for trial.
"It is not a feeling of revenge. It is a feeling of justice," said Ms Schlotzer. "In this area (Glina), they had so many crimes, and if these crimes are not prosecuted, if these guys are not found, there is no justice."
Scotland was an experienced journalist and a prominent personality in Germany, working as a political reporter and later as a dedicated and respected foreign correspondent.
In Croatia's arrest warrant, Mr Vasiljkovic is alleged to have given an order to his troops to fire indiscriminately at civilians' homes in order to intimidate the population and force them to flee.
Although German prosecutors arranged for Mr Vasiljkovic - better known in Croatia as Captain Dragan - to be interviewed in Belgrade over the murder in the late 1990s, he denied giving a command to his troops to fire and loot at will.
But in the wake of his arrest, federal prosecutors in Munich, together with homicide investigators in the Munich police department, have reopened the murder investigation.
In Croatia, Sibenik prosecutors have reportedly secured the testimony of more than 40 people who have agreed to act as witnesses against Mr Vasiljkovic. The prosecutors are preparing to go to court next month to issue an indictment against him.
The former paramilitary leader was discovered by The Australian working as a golf instructor in Perth and using the name Daniel Sneddon. He has been refused bail as he fights extradition. He has been accused of personally torturing prisoners of war and ordering his troops to kill civilians, Croatian soldiers and policemen. He denies the allegations.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,19963306-2,00.html
Njemačke vlasti otvaraju istragu protiv kapetana Dragana
Objavljeno prije 3 sata
UHIĆENJE Dragana Vasiljkovića, optuženog da je počinio ratne zločine ranih 90-ih u Hrvatskoj, potakao je tužitelje iz Muenchena da ponovno otvore slučaj ubojstva njemačkog novinara za kojega se vjeruje da je ubijen od strane Vasiljkovićevih paravojnih postrojbi.
Naime, 42-godišnji Egon Scotland preminuo je nakon što ga je pogodio snajperist dok je u automobilu putovao s ostalim novinarima u blizini Gline, a za vrijeme zasjede koju je Vasiljkovićeva vojska u tom dijelu Hrvatske postavila 1991. godine.
Ovaj je zločin, a kojega su u The Australianu okarakterizirali kao "navodan", je između ostalih dokumentiran i u nalogu za izručenjem kojega je Hrvatska dostavila australskim vlastima još prije Vasiljkovićeva uhićenja u siječnju ove godine.
Kako piše njemački Suddeutsche Zeitung, upravo to uhićenje, moguće izručenje Hrvatskoj, kao i optužnica koju je protiv Vasiljkovića podigao hrvatski sud, muenchenskoj su policiji bile dostatnim poticajem da ponovno pokrenu slučaj u nadi da će se konačno pronaći krivac za ubojstvo njemačkog novinara.
Udovica poginulog novinara, Christiane Schlotzer, za dnevnik The Australian izjavila je kako osjeća veliko olakšanje jer se Dragan Vasiljković konačno nalazi iza rešetaka.
"To nije osjećaj osvete. To je osjećaj pravde. Na području Gline dogodili su se brojni zločini i ako se o tim zločinima ne bude raspravljalo na sudu, ako krivci za te zločine ne budu nađeni, tu nema pravde." - kazala je Schlotzer.
Inače, gorespomenuti dnevnik The Australian, Dragan Vasiljković svojevremeno je tužio tražeći 200,000 australskih dolara odštete zbog teksta u kojem je opisan kao vojni zapovjednik postrojbi pobunjenih Srba u Hrvatskoj i BiH te mogući ratni zločinac.
"Kapetana Dragana", a koji je u to vrijeme u autralskom Perthu živio i radio kao instruktor golfa pod pseudonimom Daniel Snedden, tada je najviše brinulo "što će njegovi susjedi misliti o njemu kada čuju da pored njih živi kriminalac i ratni zločinac".
Dok njegovi australski susjedi nisu znali tko živi kraj njih, Hrvatskoj je Dragan itekako bio poznat, i to kao "kapetan" kojega se tereti za etničko čišćenje, zlostavljanje i ubijanje civila, kao i organizirana silovanja. Bivšeg srpskog zapovjednika Crvenih beretki i Knindža u RSK za vrijeme Domovinskog rata i rata u BiH, Hrvatska poglavito tereti za pokolje u Glini i Zvorniku.
Vasiljković je uhićen 20. siječnja u Sydneyju na temelju međunarodne tjeralice koju je za njim raspisala Hrvatska, pri čemu mu prijeti izručenje Hrvatskoj, gdje bi mogao biti osuđen i do 20 godina zatvora.
http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=323442
Bartholomew Roberts
08-06-2006, 05:13 AM
Tko je kapetan Dragan???
On je tvoj instruktor golfa:
http://www.srpskadijaspora.info/komentar/images/zs22012006_1_1.jpg
Bartholomew Roberts
12-08-2006, 09:48 AM
December 8, 2006 - 6:40PM
Accused Croatian war criminal Dragan Vasiljkovic has lost a bid to prevent his extradition hearing going ahead.
Croatia is seeking Vasiljkovic over his alleged involvement in war crimes between 1991 and 1993.
Vasiljkovic, known to his supporters as Captain Dragan, is accused of killing civilians and instructing others to commit murder during his time as a commander of Serbian paramilitary forces.
He is also alleged to have fired upon a civilian city and kicked a person in the head causing brain bleeding.
In a Sydney magistrate's court today, Vasiljkovic's barrister Bradley Slowgrove failed in a bid to have the extradition hearing dismissed on legal grounds.
Mr Slowgrove argued that normal criminal laws which applied in Croatia and could be held as equivalent in Australia for extradition purposes did not apply in times of war.
"Because we are in war and armed conflict and outside the King's peace it might be lawful to kick somebody, it's not automatically unlawful," Mr Slowgrove told Central Local Court.
He also told Deputy Chief Magistrate Paul Cloran that prisoners of war were "dangerous" persons who required discipline by captors to prevent them from escaping, and there was insufficient evidence to show Vasiljkovic wasn't motivated by such circumstances.
Mr Slowgrove claimed it was also questionable whether the acts were so grave as to constitute a crime under the Geneva Convention.
"It's not every breach that creates criminal responsibility, not every act of physical violence is a breach under the convention," he said
"It's a matter of impression, there's not enough information alleged."
Mr Cloran rejected Mr Slowgrove's arguments and ordered the extradition hearing proceed.
"In my view the provisions of (the Extradition Act) have been fulfilled," he told the court.
Former prosecutor for the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, Grant Niemann, told the court that Vasiljkovic could be considered a protected person under the Geneva Convention, which could determine the events for which he could be punished, and the severity of the penalty.
The forces involved in and funding the conflict were also relevant considerations, Mr Niemann said.
In Vasiljkovic's case, the question of his military rank would be important in considering the question of command responsibility, he said.
Vasiljkovic has been in custody since January when the federal government acted on a provisional extradition request from Croatian authorities.
The 51-year-old had repeatedly denied committing war crimes.
He unsuccessfully challenged his detention in the High Court earlier this year, claiming he was being illegally held because no formal extradition treaty existed between Australia and Croatia.
The hearing continues on Monday.
AAP
Bartholomew Roberts
12-24-2006, 06:39 AM
Croatia will murder me, says Captain DraganBy David King
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ACCUSED Serbian war criminal Dragan Vasiljkovic believes he will be murdered in Croatia before he gets to trial and says his extradition is a propaganda stunt contrived by his enemies.
Mr Vasiljkovic told Sydney's Central Local Court yesterday his guilt was "predetermined" in Croatia, where he was being persecuted because of his political beliefs and nationality.
The man known as "Captain Dragan" told the extradition hearing his prosecution by Croatia for war crimes was retaliation for the prosecution of Croatian military commander Ante Gotovina by the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia.
"I am a sworn political enemy of the HDZ (Croatian ruling party) and I believe I will not survive to obtain a fair trial in Croatia should I be surrendered into their custody," Mr Vasiljkovic said in a statement.
"I believe I will be killed or alleged to have committed suicide. I do not believe I will get a lawyer in Croatia to properly present my case. I am frightened if I raise these matters I will be tortured and killed."
He had entered the witness box for the first time since his arrest in Sydney in January on war crimes charges. Croatian authorities allege that as a member of Serbian paramilitary forces in the early 1990s in Krajina, he brutalised a captive soldier, ordered a murder and told troops to fire on a town.
Mr Vasiljkovic, who told the court he changed his name to Daniel Snedden 30 years ago when he first moved to Australia, said a plaque on the wall of the fortress at Knin, where he trained Serbian soldiers, proved he could not receive a fair trial.
He told the court the plaque said: "In this place in 1991 there were imprisoned, tortured and killed Croatian defenders by the forces of Captain Dragan."
The plaque, dated August this year, was dedicated to "Croatian concentration camp victims of Serb forces in Knin", he said.
Mr Vasiljkovic said he had been a commander in the civil war and helped keep Krajina free of "HDZ military domination" from June 1991 to 1995.
He said that when he gave evidence for the prosecution at the ICTY trial of Slobodan Milosevic, he had not been questioned about any alleged involvement in war crimes.
Mr Vasiljkovic also attacked The Australian for first reporting the war crimes allegations. "There were no specific allegations of war crimes against me until a defamatory article appeared in The Australian in September 2005, which implied that I was involved in war crimes distinct from those alleged in these proceedings," he said.
The hearing continues.
Watzy
12-24-2006, 10:34 AM
At first the idiot believed he wont end up extradited, so he vulgarly insulted Croatian ex-Justice Minister, but now the fear replaced arrogance, as it always happens when a serb awaits his fate.
Zrinski
04-12-2007, 09:01 AM
Dolijao :D
Australski sudac odobrio izručenje Vasiljkovića Hrvatskoj
DRAGAN VASILJKOVIĆ, poznatiji kao Kapetan Dragan, izgubio je svoju pravnu bitku za ostanak u Australiji, javljaju australski mediji.
Sudac sidnejskog suda Paul Coran prihvatio je hrvatski zahtjev za izručenjem, te rekao kako Vasiljković može biti izručen Hrvatskoj.
Nekadašnji zapovjednik srpskih paravojnih snaga u roku od 15 dana ima pravo podnijeti žalbu, a njegov odvjetnik Brad Slowgrove potvrdio je kako se namjeravaju žaliti na odluku suda.
Vasiljković, inače australski državljanin, od 1991. do 1993. bio je zapovjednik srpskih paravojnih snaga u Hrvatskoj, a osumnjičen je za sudjelovanje u ratnim zločinima protiv civila i Hrvatske vojske te zatvorenika.
Uhićen 20. siječnja 2006. u Sydneyju temeljem međunarodne tjeralice koju je raspisala Hrvatska, Vasiljković se žalio australskom Vrhovnom sudu tvrdeći da je protuzakonito zatvoren jer dvije zemlje nemaju formalni sporazum o izručenju.
No, Vrhovni sud mu je u lipnju odbacio žalbu prihvativši ocjenu australske vlade da Vasiljković može biti izručen temeljem Ugovora o izručivanju zemalja Commonwealtha pa je postupak nastavljen na lokalnome sudu u Sydneyu.
Šibensko Županijsko državno odvjetništvo Vasiljkovića tereti da je kao zapovjednik jedinice za posebne namjene u sastavu paravojnih srpskih postrojba, odnosno kao zapovjednik nastavnog centra za obuku pripadnika specijalnih postrojba "Alfa", postupao protivno odredbama Ženevskih konvencija.
Osumnjičen je da je u lipnju i srpnju 1991. u zatvoru na kninskoj tvrđavi te u veljači 1993. u Bruškoj kod Benkovca mučio, zlostavljao i ubijao zarobljene pripadnike hrvatske vojske i policije.
Tereti ga se i da je kao zapovjednik jedinica za posebne namjene u srpnju 1991. u Glini, u dogovoru sa zapovjednikom tenkovske jedinice JNA, izradio plan napada i zauzimanja glinske policijske postaje, prigradskog naselja Jukinca, te sela Gornjeg i Donjeg Viduševca.
http://www.index.hr/clanak.aspx?id=343983
Bartholomew Roberts
04-12-2007, 10:17 AM
Of course we'll be waiting longer for the appeal process.
April 12, 2007 - 11:16AM
Alleged Serbian war criminal Dragan Vasiljkovic has lost his bid to stay in Australia.
Vasiljkovic, who appeared at Sydney's Central Local Court today, was told by Deputy Chief Magistrate Paul Cloran he was wanted by the Republic of Croatia on charges of war crimes against the population of Croatia.
"[Vasiljkovic] is eligible for surrender to the Republic of Croatia," Mr Cloran said.
Vasiljkovic has 15 days in which to appeal in the Federal Court against his extradition.
AAP
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/accused-war-criminal-thrown-out/2007/04/12/1175971228013.html
Watzy
04-26-2007, 12:23 AM
Nadajmo se da će ga naši držati u pritvoru zajedno sa ostalim zatvorenicima.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/Watzy_2/ratko.jpg
...or Dragance for that matter. :D
Bartholomew Roberts
05-29-2007, 09:54 AM
DRAGAN Vasiljkovic is continuing his battle against being extradited to Croatia to face trial for war crimes during the Balkans conflict in the early 1990s.
His barrister, Bradley Slowgrove, told a Federal Court judge today he was seeking a review of a finding - made in April by NSW deputy chief magistrate Paul Coran - that Mr Vasiljkovic was eligible for extradition.
He also referred to two other matters before the Federal Court, one attacking the Extradition Act itself and the other seeking Mr Vasiljkovic's release from jail.
The 52-year-old Australian citizen has been in Sydney's Parklea prison since his arrest in January last year.
He is accused of killing Croatian civilians and instructing others to commit murder while he was a commander of Serbian paramilitary forces in Srpska Krajina from 1991 to 1995.
Mr Vasiljkovic also is alleged to have fired on a civilian and kicked a person in the head.
He has repeatedly denied committing war crimes and his supporters say he is innocent, noting that the International Criminal Court in The Hague has not pursued him.
Mr Vasiljkovic migrated to Australia with his mother when he was 12, returning to Serbia in 1991 to take command of a paramilitary unit.
His case is due to be mentioned in the Federal Court again on June 6.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21813725-2702,00.html
Bartholomew Roberts
04-28-2009, 11:09 AM
From the SMH:
A CROATIAN man imprisoned by Serb forces during the early 1990s has told a Sydney court of hourly beatings and torture allegedly committed on prisoners in a tiny room of a stone fortress where the inmates slept on bare, thin chipboard and were forced to urinate inside.
Velibor Bracic, 41, travelled from Croatia to testify in a defamation case brought by Dragan Vasiljkovic, now known as Daniel Snedden, against Nationwide News, the publisher of The Australian newspaper, at the NSW Supreme Court.
Snedden, an Australian citizen known during the Balkans conflict as Captain Dragan, led a paramilitary Serb unit in the Croatian province of Krajina during the early 1990s, the court was told earlier.
In a separate case Snedden, 54, is appealing against a Federal Court judge's order to extradite him to Croatia for questioning on war crimes allegations, which he strenuously denies.
Mr Bracic, now a construction company owner, joined the Croatian police shortly before the war in Croatia began in 1991.
He said he was captured by a former schoolmate-turned-Serb paratrooper during a reconnaissance mission undertaken in June 1991.
After three days of beatings at a garage in the town of Golubic, he was transferred to a stone fortress on a hill above his home town of Knin.
"They said I would never come out of there alive," Mr Bracic testified through an interpreter.
He said he and five other men were kept in a small, round, stone chamber which had a tiny window four metres above the ground.
The men were forced to urinate inside and slept on thin chipboard with no bed linen.
Mr Bracic said he was beaten and whipped all over his body. "Every hour, during the day and night, it was regularly done," he said. "Beating, kicking, hitting with a rifle, pointing the rifle into our mouths, putting the finger on the trigger."
He said that during the beatings, the guards spoke with "fearful respect" of their commander, who they said was an experienced warrior.
Snedden, who has been detained in Parklea jail for more than three years, claims an article published by The Australian sensationally portrayed him as authorising and condoning murder, torture and rape.
Justice Megan Latham, who is hearing the defamation case, will effectively rule on the evidence about Snedden's wartime activities before a Croatian court has a chance to do so.
Earlier yesterday Colton Perry, an American who volunteered with the Croatian National Guard at the end of 1991, said Snedden once told him he would be shot after Mr Perry was captured and imprisoned by Serb forces.
Mr Perry, 41, was a French Foreign Legion soldier for four years before he joined Croatian forces. He was captured by Serbs in May 1992 and imprisoned and tortured for several months.
Mr Perry denied a suggestion by Clive Evatt, SC, counsel for Snedden, that the encounter with Captain Dragan never happened. The case continues today.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/accused-serbian-war-criminal-denies-torture-20090427-akn1.html?page=-1
Königin Luise von Preußen
04-28-2009, 11:12 AM
He should be transferred from Australia to Croatian court and given into the hands Croatian justice!
Bartholomew Roberts
04-30-2009, 08:11 AM
He should be transferred from Australia to Croatian court and given into the hands Croatian justice!
Either way he's in jail :dance2:
Ricardo Vega
04-30-2009, 11:52 AM
He should be transferred from Australia to Croatian court and given into the hands Croatian justice!
As though it's that simple. I'm afraid that this may take a while longer, while there are even some Australian Serbs who are trying to help Dragan through donations, petitions, or what-have-you.
Look how a Croat and Sydney resident Anton Gudelj who was accused of killing the Osijek police chief, prior to the comencement of hostilities was already extradited to Croatia, while Captain Dragan is trying to wiesel is way out of his situation?
If Dragan's so concerned about the fairness of Croatia's judiciary, maybe there should be international observers present?
Ricardo Vega
04-30-2009, 12:02 PM
From The Australian:
Captain Dragan Vasiljkovic raped me: Muslim woman (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25406817-5006784,00.html)
James Madden | April 30, 2009
Article from: The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/)
ACCUSED war criminal Dragan Vasiljkovic allegedly raped a Muslim woman "five or six times", ordered his fellow soldiers to gang-rape her and made her eat pork and drink alcohol at knifepoint during the war in Bosnia in 1992.
Mr Vasiljkovic, who was known as Captain Dragan during his time as a paramilitary commander of Serb forces in the Balkans conflict, was allegedly referred to as "the prince" by guards who would take female prisoners of war to a hotel room for him in Bosnia.
One of his alleged victims - known only as Source A - told the NSW Supreme Court yesterday how she and her husband were taken from their home in Zvornik, in Bosnia, by Serb forces on May 1, 1992.
They were both taken to a local school that had been converted into a makeshift prisoner-of-war camp. While there, the prisoners suffered beatings, were unable to wash, and were given little food or water.
According to the woman, now 55, violence at the hands of the Serb guards - and, in particular, the paramilitary group's commander, known as Captain Dragan - became progressively worse. She told the court, through an interpreter, that after being transferred to a nearby factory prison, many of the female prisoners were in turn taken to the Vidikovac Hotel in Bosnia, which was used by the Serb forces as a prison camp and headquarters during the war.
It was here that the woman claimed she was raped "five or six times" on separate occasions by Mr Vasiljkovic.
The court heard that one night in June 1992, she was taken to a room by two Serb soldiers.
"They said to me that I had to wait for some prince, that the prince will arrive," she said. The woman recalled that moments later, "Captain Dragan", whom she did not know, entered the room, and immediately chided her for not being naked.
"He ordered me to take my clothes off and said to me that I have good breasts," the woman said.
"And then he did what he wanted to do. He raped me."
Mr Vasiljkovic, seated directly behind his lawyers, remained impassive as the woman made the claims.
The woman was yesterday asked how she knew it was "Captain Dragan" who had allegedly raped her. "When they (the Serb guards) took me back (to the factory prison), they said that it was my honour that he (Dragan) had chosen me," she said.
She told the hearing that, on a later occasion, Mr Vasiljkovic entered the room with a knife in his hand and blood on his clothes.
From the window of the hotel room, she said, she could see "bodies floating in the lake".
Mr Vasiljkovic did not rape her on that occasion but the Muslim woman told the court she was force-fed bacon and made to drink half a litre of brandy.
"He was telling me, 'eat that, you Turk'," the woman said.
She said Mr Vasiljkovic then told her that she would be raped by other soldiers.
"As much as I'm aware, maybe three or four men were raping me but after that I went unconscious and I don't know how many."
The woman said Captain Dragan was in the room watching as the first man raped her but then he left.
She said that before her first encounter with Mr Vasiljkovic, she had seen other women who were returned to the prison camp "half dead", after allegedly being raped by Serb soldiers.
The woman told the court she and her fellow female prisoners were forced to live in squalid conditions, with little food and hardly any water.
She recalled that the guards would taunt the women when they begged for water.
"They (the guards) would take their penis out and then they would piss there and would say, 'there's your drink'," she said.
Another witness, Osman Vikic, told the court via videolink from Croatia that in 1991 he had been held captive by Serb forces at Knin fortress, and had been assaulted by Mr Vasiljkovic.
Mr Vikic, 40, a former Croatian policeman, said Mr Vasiljkovic told him he would be incarcerated until the Croatian government "had fulfilled the requirements that they (the Serbs) had given them".
Mr Vasiljkovic, 54, is suing Nationwide News for defamation over an article published in The Australian in September 2005, which detailed his alleged activities during his time as a commander of a Serbian paramilitary unit in the Balkans in the early 1990s.
In 2007, a jury found the article contained a number of meanings which were defamatory of Mr Vasiljkovic, including that he condoned the rape of women and girls, was a mercenary and a "death squad" commander.
Nationwide News is defending the truth of its article.
Ricardo Vega
09-02-2009, 10:23 AM
This is disgusting!
'War criminal' should not be extradited: court (http://www.smh.com.au/national/war-criminal-should-not-be-extradited-court-20090902-f7h9.html)
An Australian citizen wanted for prosecution by Croatian authorities over alleged war crimes has won an appeal against his extradition.
Dragan Vasiljkovic, 54, now known as Daniel Snedden, had established there was "a substantial or real chance of prejudice" if he was extradited to Croatia to face the allegations, the full bench of the Federal Court ruled. The court ordered his release from custody.
Belgrade-born Mr Snedden moved to Australia with his parents as a child but returned to Serbia in 1991 as a paramilitary commander.
Daniel Snedden, 54, also known as Dragan Vasilykovic. Photo: Reuters
Known in the Balkans as Captain Dragan, he led a Serb paramilitary unit during the war in Croatia in the early 1990s.
The Republic of Croatia is seeking his extradition for alleged war crimes against prisoners of war and an alleged offence against the civilian population.
Mr Snedden, who has been held in custody in NSW for more than three years without charge, strenuously denies the allegations and has been fighting his extradition.
He took his case to the Federal Court after a Sydney magistrate ordered in 2007 that he was eligible for surrender to Croatian authorities.
In February, the Federal Court ruled that he should be extradited, dismissing his claims that he would be unfairly tried in a judiciary biased against Serbs.
Mr Snedden then appealed against that decision to the full bench of the Federal Court, which today found he had made out a valid objection to his extradition.
Justices Geoffrey Flick, Neil McKerracher and Annabelle Bennett allowed his appeal, saying Mr Snedden had shown there were substantial grounds for believing that he may be punished or imprisoned "by reason of his ... nationality or political opinions".
They directed that Mr Snedden be released from custody but stayed the order until 3pm on Friday, giving lawyers acting for Croatian time to consider an appeal.
Kim Arlington is a Herald Court Reporter.
- with AAP
Bartholomew Roberts
09-02-2009, 10:30 AM
This decision allows him to appeal the original decision of the Federal Court that is all. I don't think this is finished by a long shot.
Ace Rimmer
09-02-2009, 01:04 PM
I don't want him in Croatia.
slobodagovora
09-02-2009, 05:51 PM
a ja bih volio da ga netko ubije:munch:
Bartholomew Roberts
09-03-2009, 08:12 AM
a ja bih volio da ga netko ubije:munch:
ma ti neznas da imas 'fun', bolje da se muci po sudovima i da ga neki arap u zatvorima ovdje bode u guzu, pa nek se pripovida kakav je knindza :lol
Gummo
09-03-2009, 09:27 AM
Za mene je Dragan Vasiljković hohštapler koji se našao tamo gdje ga nije trebalo, a puno se volio slikati i kamera "ga je htjela". Tako da ga više opterećuje "umjetnički dojam" nego stvarni zločini koje je eventualno počinio.
Naime svjedoci njegovih zločina ili "zločina" su jednako "pouzdani" kao i u slučaju one Banićke u procesu Škabrnja.
Ricardo Vega
09-04-2009, 11:09 AM
From The Australian:
Suspected Serbian war criminal Dragan Vasiljkovic released from Sydney jail (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26027441-12377,00.html)
By Margaret Scheikowski and Patrick Caruana | September 04, 2009
Article from: Australian Associated Press (http://aap.com.au/)
AN Australian accused of brutal war crimes in the Balkans vows to work to change extradition laws following his release after more than three years in jail.
Daniel Snedden, also known as Dragan Vasiljkovic and nicknamed Captain Dragan, said he felt "disgusted" about his treatment, but praised the judicial system when he walked free from Parklea prison in Sydney's west today.
The Serbian-born 54-year-old has been in jail in Sydney since his arrest in January 2006.
On Wednesday, a full bench of the Federal Court allowed an appeal by Mr Snedden against his extradition to Croatia, where he is accused of killing civilians when he was a paramilitary commander there in the early 1990s.
The three judges ordered he be released from Parklea this afternoon, unless the Republic of Croatia decided it would try to mount a High Court challenge. But just hours before he walked from prison at about 5.45pm (AEST), Melissa Perry QC, for Croatia, told Federal Court Justice Geoffrey Flick it would not be standing in the way of his release.
Yesterday in Belgrade, Croatian Justice Minister Ivan Simonvic said Croatia would appeal the ruling to the High Court. But the Federal Court has not received any notification of this move to date.
When asked how he felt about his treatment, Mr Snedden said: "Disgusted."
"As an innocent man spending four years incarcerated with convicted criminals without any charges, any convictions or any even superficial evidence against me," Mr Snedden said.
"However, thank God there are still some honest judges around and (for) their unanimous decision to have me released."
He said he now planned to work to ensure no other Australians have to endure a similar ordeal.
"I will devote the rest of my life to making sure that no other Australian is going to go through such a miscarriage of justice as I have," Mr Snedden said.
In upholding his appeal, Justices Flick, Annabelle Bennett and Neil McKerracher found there was a "substantial or real chance of prejudice" if Mr Snedden was extradited, because of his political beliefs.
Further, there were substantial grounds for believing he may be punished or imprisoned, and thereby "detained" or "restricted in his personal liberty", such treatment arising because of his nationality or political opinions.
Serbs for Justice, which has been supporting Mr Snedden, said Australia needed to review its extradition laws.
"The Extradition Act and its regulations need to be closely looked at to ensure that Australian citizens are not held in Australian jails for years simply because a foreign country, which may openly embrace racial discrimination, might want to ask them questions or interrogate them about something," the group said in a statement today.
Mr Snedden was born in Belgrade and moved to Australia with his parents as a child, but returned to Serbia in 1991 as a paramilitary commander.
The accusations against him include killing Croatian civilians and instructing others to commit murder during his time in Srpska Krajina, a Serbian-dominated part of Croatia, until 1995 - crimes he has denied.
slobodagovora
09-04-2009, 03:26 PM
ma ti neznas da imas 'fun', bolje da se muci po sudovima i da ga neki arap u zatvorima ovdje bode u guzu, pa nek se pripovida kakav je knindza :lol
Ja sam hladnokrvan što se tiče tih stvari.
Da je netko napravio ne znam što, ja sam protiv mučenja. Metak ili klanje je sasvim dostatno, ostalo je bespotrebni sadizam.
Ali ako se nakaza ne boji smrti, a onda u doživtnu samicu...to je gore i od robije i smrti. Ako si na robiji onda uvijek možeš nekoga mrcvariti pa se nekako osvećivati i ta sranja, ali ako si u samici onda si sam sa sobom, bez ičeg, to slomi ljude samo tako.
Mučenje dolazi u obzir ako trebam izvući neke informacije od zarobljenika, inače NE. A vjeruj mi, kada bih od nekoga trebao izvući neke informacije, izvukao bih ih...:cool:
Ricardo Vega
09-11-2009, 10:07 AM
From The Age:
We have a duty to find and try war criminals (http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/we-have-a-duty-to-find-and-try-war-criminals-20090908-ffyf.html?page=-1)
Gideon Boas
September 9, 2009
THE ugly spectre of war criminals in our community is creeping its way back onto the national agenda. A few days ago, Dragan Vasiljkovic (aka ''Captain Dragan'', when he was the leader of the Red Beret paramilitary unit favoured by former Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic - or ''Daniel Snedden'', when he was a golf instructor living in Western Australia) walked free from a Sydney jail. Vasiljkovic had been in custody pending the outcome of an extradition request from Croatia to try him for war crimes allegedly committed in Croatia in 1991 and 1992. The Federal Court upheld his application resisting extradition, convinced that he would not receive a fair trial if deported.
I sat opposite Vasiljkovic in a courtroom in The Hague when he testified for the prosecution against Slobodan Milosevic. Over several days of testimony, he changed his story, wriggling out of pinning any links between paramilitary organisations and Milosevic, not to mention avoiding contempt of court charges and an indictment from the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia for any involvement he might have had in war crimes. It seems Vasiljkovic has once again slipped the net of justice, although he did serve three years on remand fighting the outcome of the extradition request.
Meantime, over in Western Australia, Charles Zentai has become the latest alleged war criminal to contest an extradition request - this time from Hungary. The Hungarian authorities want the 87-year-old to face an allegation of torturing and murdering a Jewish teenager in Budapest in 1944. That matter awaits the outcome of a full Federal Court hearing concluded last week.
Less than two decades ago, Australia endeavoured to weed out and prosecute war criminals who had sought refuge here after WWII. Three elderly Ukrainian men were indicted for the killing of hundreds of Jews, including children. All prosecutions were dismissed or abandoned for a range of reasons typical of trials conducted for offences that were committed decades earlier: evidence is lost, memories fade, witnesses die, are too traumatised to testify or are unable to be located, offenders become old and frail, and all aspects of the reliability of evidence subjected to a criminal standard become attenuated. In war crimes cases, this is accentuated by distance and cross-jurisdictional issues.
There is, however, a disturbing refrain in the story of Australia's involvement in war crimes prosecutions. The fact is that, since trials after WWII of more than 800 Japanese defendants by Australian military tribunals, we have not had a great record of either prosecuting or extraditing war criminals. And there is a sense of dread, following the efforts at prosecution in the late 1980s and early 1990s, at the idea of fronting up to the presence of war criminals in our community, let alone identifying them and working out what to do with them.
Zentai and Vasiljkovic are but two of what may be thousands of potential war criminals taking refuge in Australia. The Lowy Institute recently released a report suggesting that a broad range of potential war crimes suspects from several war-affected countries live here and that little is being done by the Commonwealth Government to investigate these cases. The Government's hesitancy is no doubt motivated, at least in part, by the sheer investigative and legal complexity (not to mention cost) in finding and prosecuting war criminals. The extradition applications of Zentai and Vasiljkovic are recent reminders of this.
Australia has, however, ratified the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, indicating its commitment to the trial of war criminals and its dedication to ending impunity for crimes of mass atrocity. We have implemented the statute into domestic legislation and subscribed to the court's jurisdictional structure, which states that we have primary jurisdiction over war criminals found in our territory and that, as a first and preferred option, we should prosecute them. If we are unable or unwilling to prosecute them, we should transfer them to the court.
The alleged crimes of neither Zentai nor Vasiljkovic qualify for prosecution by the International Criminal Court (these crimes were committed before the court's jurisdiction commenced), but that does not prevent Australia fulfilling its obligations under international law. There is a principle, sometimes referred to loosely as universal jurisdiction, which suggests that for crimes such as these, any state on whose territory such an accused resides should either prosecute or extradite. If we cannot extradite, because we cannot be satisfied that an alleged war criminal will receive a fair trial in another country, then we must prosecute them ourselves. The principle is based on a moral imperative: people who commit crimes that offend humanity must be brought to justice and we, like all nations, have a responsibility to honour this simple but profound statement of humanity.
Australia should confront the unpleasant truth about war criminals in our community and move to investigate and prosecute them with dispassion. They must be given a fair and proper trial, and every opportunity to defend their claimed innocence, but they must be tried. The victims of these crimes, some of them refugees in our own country, deserve no less.
Dr Gideon Boas is a senior lecturer in the Monash Law School. He was, until October 2006, a senior legal officer at the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia.
Ricardo Vega
09-13-2009, 05:20 AM
From The Age:
Bosnia to seek extradition of accused war criminal (http://www.theage.com.au/national/bosnia-to-seek-extradition-of-accused-war-criminal-20090912-flnb.html)
SELMA MILOVANOVIC, SARAJEVO, BOSNIA
September 13, 2009
TWO weeks after the Federal Court stopped the extradition of an Australian citizen accused of war crimes to Croatia, ruling he could not have a fair trial, Bosnia is gathering evidence for a possible extradition request to that country over a wartime rape.
Dragan Vasiljkovic, 54, now known as Daniel Snedden, this month won an appeal before the full bench of the Federal Court against extradition to Croatia, where he is wanted for questioning over war crimes allegedly committed in Croatia in the early '90s.
Snedden is alleged, under the name of Captain Dragan, to have led a paramilitary unit that terrorised the local Croatian population and is alleged to have tortured prisoners of war in a medieval fortress near the town of Knin.
In evidence earlier this year before a defamation case Snedden has launched against The Australian newspaper, a Bosnian woman accused Snedden of repeatedly raping her in Zvornik, northern Bosnia, in 1992.
The woman, who travelled to Sydney in April to testify in the NSW Supreme Court along with several Croatian men allegedly imprisoned and tortured by Snedden, identified him in court as the ''Captain Dragan'' who repeatedly raped her and watched as other soldiers did so.
The Bosnian ambassador to Australia, Damir Arnaut, last night told The Sunday Age in Sarajevo that gathering evidence against Snedden with a view to his possible extradition would be one of his top priorities. He said there was also strong evidence that ''Vasiljkovic operated with his paramilitary death squads in eastern Bosnia until at least 1994''.
Vasiljkovic has denied being in Bosnia during the war.
Mr Arnaut, currently a legal and constitutional affairs adviser in the Bosnian presidency, said that the Australian Federal Court had ruled Vasiljkovic could not have a fair trial in Croatia, Bosnia was unlikely to face similar problems.
''Bosnia's court dealing with war crimes is staffed with international judges and prosecutors and it has received very high marks on the international level for its professionalism and impartiality,'' Mr Arnaut said.
''As a result, I plan to work with Australian and Croatian authorities to collect evidence for forwarding to Bosnian prosecutors with hope that they will bring charges against Vasiljkovic and request his extradition to Bosnia."
A spokesman for the Bosnian Department of Public Prosecutions told Fairfax this week that while prosecutors had information about Snedden's alleged wartime activities in Bosnia and Herzegovina, he was not currently a suspect.
''We don't have a current investigation into his activites which does not mean it won't happen,'' the spokesman said.
dimitrije
09-13-2009, 04:38 PM
I thought they will come out with more lies against Captain Dragan, they even found Turkish prostitute that will testify about something that never happened.
Jebivjetar
09-13-2009, 06:59 PM
Prostitute? What she will testify? That Captain Cigan likes to have his asshole torn apart by strap on dildo?
Königin Luise von Preußen
09-16-2009, 07:30 AM
http://www.javno.com/en-world/my-release-is-a-slap-in-the-face-of-croatia_275120
Capt Dragan : My release is a slap in the face of Croatia
Croatian authorities are run by scoundrels and the slap we gave them is something they will remember for a while, Vasiljkovic says.
http://www.javno.com/slike/slike_3/r1/g2009/m09/y213126009110078.jpg
Since being released from Australian detention Dragan Vasiljkovic, better known as Captain Dragan, does not get tired of giving interviews. In the latest one, which he gave to the Frankfurt edition of the Serbian paper Vesti, Vasiljkovic assess how decision against his extradition to Croatia will be a new model, according to which, no other Australian Serb shall ever be extradited to Croatia. He said that the decision of Australian Federal Court was a slap against the fascist currents in Croatia.
- I'm not talking about the whole country, but the currents that allow corruption within the legal system. A decision made by the Federal Court, a court that consists of not only one judge, but the entire judicial council, says that Croatia is still lawless and that their legal system is shady – Vasiljkovic says. He also adds that he wanted to be tried in Australia all along and that Croatian authorities seem to support this now.
Dragan Free: Australian or Croatian Mistake?
In fact, as he says, Australian Federal Court’s ruling was an opportunity to show that Croatia is still run by scoundrels. However, he also adds that he does not hate Croats, many of whom are his friends who are equally disguised with events surrounding his case.
- However, currents at war still operate over there. It will take them a long time to recover from the slap we gave them – Vasiljkovic said. He also added that he believes that the process running against him is used to intimidate Serbs wanting to return to Croatia and that government’s enmity is not really directed towards him.
He claims that the most important thing is that hundreds of Serbs, who lived in fear of extradition, can now walk down the street with their heads held high. He also ads that Croats have a list of up to 200 people who currently live in Australia, but believes that possibility of their extradition is now next to impossible – Mondo, news reports.
I am innocent, there was no evidence against me
- I would gladly lay ten years in prison for the goal that I had. If we are hereby given a right that no other Serb is allowed to be extradited to Croatia, the price was worth it. I mean, this is not about Australia only; it is of crucial international importance as well. If they tried to seek Serbs from other countries, this judgment will always be used as an example. All that Croatia got for starting this dirty game is a bad name that will be very hard to wash - concluded Vasiljkovic. As for future plans, Captain Dragan said that he will fight to remove Croatia from the extradition list. He says that this is very doable and that this should be the next step.
- It is of crucial importance that the Australian government understands that no one, not only Serbs, but not one Australian, cannot be extradited to Croatia. This is the next step - Captain Dragan said.
Here's what the Australians say.
Croatian authorities are to appeal the Federal Court of Australia's decision to free a suspected Serbian war criminal.
The court ruled on Wednesday that Daniel Snedden, 54, also known as Dragan Vasiljkovic, would not be extradited to Croatia and ordered his release from prison.
But Croatian Justice Minister Ivan Simonovic says he believes Australia will change its decision not to extradite Snedden and has stated his confidence that the Serb will either be extradited to Croatia or jailed in Australia.
Croatia is seeking the extradition of Snedden, nicknamed Captain Dragan, to stand trial for having committed war crimes during the Balkans war in the 1990s.
The Federal Court ruled that as a former Serb army captain, Snedden would face a biased Croatian court.
Simonovic said it was possible that Snedden would go underground if he was released from prison and so Croatia would appeal the Federal Court's ruling to the High Court.
Simonovic said: "We expect its decision will be positive. But, if not, it will not mean freedom for Vasiljkovic because there is no statute of limitations on war crimes."
The Federal Court judges ordered that Snedden, who has been in jail since his arrest in January 2006, be released.
But they stayed their order until 3pm (AEST) on Friday, to enable Croatia to decide whether it will go to the High Court and apply for special leave to appeal.
Snedden was born in Belgrade and moved to Australia with his parents as a child but returned to Serbia in 1991 as a paramilitary commandeer.
The accusations against him include killing Croatian civilians and instructing others to commit murder during his time in Srpska Krajina, a Serbian-dominated part of Croatia, until 1995 - crimes he has denied.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/croatia-to-appeal-release-of-vasiljkovic-20090903-fa3c.html
Similar articles:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26019077-2702,00.html
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/02/2674127.htm?section=justin
He is still wanted by the Interpol.
http://www.interpol.int/public/Data/Wanted/Notices/Data/2006/53/2006_1753.asp
http://www.trial-ch.org/en/trial-watch/profile/db/facts/dragan_vasiljkovic_478.html
"Dragan Vasiljkovic is supposed to have tortured and killed captured members of the Croatian army and police in the region of Knin and Benkovac in June and July 1991. In a raid on the police station in the city of Glina in July 1991, which Vasiljkovic personally oversaw, and during the attack on the Croatian towns of Gornji Vidusevac and Donji Vidusevac, several civilians were allegedly killed. Acts of arson and plundering were carried out; one foreign journalist was killed. As the leader of the “Red Berets”, Dragan Vasiljkovic is also alleged to have participated in crimes against humanity directed against the Muslim population of the city of Zvornik in Bosnia-Herzegovina."
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related article released some time ago..
http://dnevnik.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/troje-svjedoka-optuzilo-kapetana-dragana-za-ratne-zlocine.html
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/americki-dragovoljac-kapetan-dragan-naredio-je-da-me-likvidiraju/431463.aspx
Article from australian media:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25395972-2702,00.html
Königin Luise von Preußen
09-16-2009, 07:37 AM
http://www.javno.com/en-world/my-release-is-a-slap-in-the-face-of-croatia_275120
Capt Dragan : My release is a slap in the face of Croatia
Croatian authorities are run by scoundrels and the slap we gave them is something they will remember for a while, Vasiljkovic says.
http://www.javno.com/slike/slike_3/r1/g2009/m09/y213126009110078.jpg
Since being released from Australian detention Dragan Vasiljkovic, better known as Captain Dragan, does not get tired of giving interviews. In the latest one, which he gave to the Frankfurt edition of the Serbian paper Vesti, Vasiljkovic assess how decision against his extradition to Croatia will be a new model, according to which, no other Australian Serb shall ever be extradited to Croatia. He said that the decision of Australian Federal Court was a slap against the fascist currents in Croatia.
- I'm not talking about the whole country, but the currents that allow corruption within the legal system. A decision made by the Federal Court, a court that consists of not only one judge, but the entire judicial council, says that Croatia is still lawless and that their legal system is shady – Vasiljkovic says. He also adds that he wanted to be tried in Australia all along and that Croatian authorities seem to support this now.
Dragan Free: Australian or Croatian Mistake?
In fact, as he says, Australian Federal Court’s ruling was an opportunity to show that Croatia is still run by scoundrels. However, he also adds that he does not hate Croats, many of whom are his friends who are equally disguised with events surrounding his case.
- However, currents at war still operate over there. It will take them a long time to recover from the slap we gave them – Vasiljkovic said. He also added that he believes that the process running against him is used to intimidate Serbs wanting to return to Croatia and that government’s enmity is not really directed towards him.
He claims that the most important thing is that hundreds of Serbs, who lived in fear of extradition, can now walk down the street with their heads held high. He also ads that Croats have a list of up to 200 people who currently live in Australia, but believes that possibility of their extradition is now next to impossible – Mondo, news reports.
I am innocent, there was no evidence against me
- I would gladly lay ten years in prison for the goal that I had. If we are hereby given a right that no other Serb is allowed to be extradited to Croatia, the price was worth it. I mean, this is not about Australia only; it is of crucial international importance as well. If they tried to seek Serbs from other countries, this judgment will always be used as an example. All that Croatia got for starting this dirty game is a bad name that will be very hard to wash - concluded Vasiljkovic. As for future plans, Captain Dragan said that he will fight to remove Croatia from the extradition list. He says that this is very doable and that this should be the next step.
- It is of crucial importance that the Australian government understands that no one, not only Serbs, but not one Australian, cannot be extradited to Croatia. This is the next step - Captain Dragan said.
Here's what the Australians say.
Croatian authorities are to appeal the Federal Court of Australia's decision to free a suspected Serbian war criminal.
The court ruled on Wednesday that Daniel Snedden, 54, also known as Dragan Vasiljkovic, would not be extradited to Croatia and ordered his release from prison.
But Croatian Justice Minister Ivan Simonovic says he believes Australia will change its decision not to extradite Snedden and has stated his confidence that the Serb will either be extradited to Croatia or jailed in Australia.
Croatia is seeking the extradition of Snedden, nicknamed Captain Dragan, to stand trial for having committed war crimes during the Balkans war in the 1990s.
The Federal Court ruled that as a former Serb army captain, Snedden would face a biased Croatian court.
Simonovic said it was possible that Snedden would go underground if he was released from prison and so Croatia would appeal the Federal Court's ruling to the High Court.
Simonovic said: "We expect its decision will be positive. But, if not, it will not mean freedom for Vasiljkovic because there is no statute of limitations on war crimes."
The Federal Court judges ordered that Snedden, who has been in jail since his arrest in January 2006, be released.
But they stayed their order until 3pm (AEST) on Friday, to enable Croatia to decide whether it will go to the High Court and apply for special leave to appeal.
Snedden was born in Belgrade and moved to Australia with his parents as a child but returned to Serbia in 1991 as a paramilitary commandeer.
The accusations against him include killing Croatian civilians and instructing others to commit murder during his time in Srpska Krajina, a Serbian-dominated part of Croatia, until 1995 - crimes he has denied.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/croatia-to-appeal-release-of-vasiljkovic-20090903-fa3c.html
Similar articles:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26019077-2702,00.html
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/02/2674127.htm?section=justin
He is still wanted by the Interpol.
http://www.interpol.int/public/Data/Wanted/Notices/Data/2006/53/2006_1753.asp
http://www.trial-ch.org/en/trial-watch/profile/db/facts/dragan_vasiljkovic_478.html
"Dragan Vasiljkovic is supposed to have tortured and killed captured members of the Croatian army and police in the region of Knin and Benkovac in June and July 1991. In a raid on the police station in the city of Glina in July 1991, which Vasiljkovic personally oversaw, and during the attack on the Croatian towns of Gornji Vidusevac and Donji Vidusevac, several civilians were allegedly killed. Acts of arson and plundering were carried out; one foreign journalist was killed. As the leader of the “Red Berets”, Dragan Vasiljkovic is also alleged to have participated in crimes against humanity directed against the Muslim population of the city of Zvornik in Bosnia-Herzegovina."
_________
related article issued some time ago..
http://dnevnik.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/troje-svjedoka-optuzilo-kapetana-dragana-za-ratne-zlocine.html
http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/americki-dragovoljac-kapetan-dragan-naredio-je-da-me-likvidiraju/431463.aspx
Article from australian media:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25395972-2702,00.html
Ricardo Vega
09-18-2009, 12:52 AM
Government appeals 'Captain Dragan' extradition ruling
UPDATED: Michael Pelly and James Madden | September 17, 2009
Article from: The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/)
A HIGH Court appeal has been lodged today against the decision to block the extradition of an Australian accused of war crimes as he led a Serbian paramilitary unit in the Balkans war of the early 1990s.
A spokesman for Home Affairs Minister Brendan O’Connor told The Australian said the government had sought special leave to appeal against the Full Federal Court ruling that Dragan Vasiljkovic could not get a fair trial.
The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26085800-2702,00.html)
Königin Luise von Preußen
09-18-2009, 09:48 AM
why is this Vasiljkovic - known as kapetan Dragan - not expelled to the UN IYCT in Den Hague? what a corrupt system is there in Australia anyway? Knin was a outlaw post of a capital city of a self-proclaimed para-state of the rioting terroristic Serbs there. and just in Den Hague the terrorist Mile Martic was sentenced to methinks 35 years..
*terrorist therefore - because Mile Martic was never recognised so to speak abandoned by Milosevic, by Belgrade..
Ricardo Vega
09-18-2009, 11:23 AM
why is this Vasiljkovic - known as kapetan Dragan - not expelled to the UN IYCT in Den Hague?
Besides the testimony he brought against Milosevic (in exchange for his immunity, and even his socializing with Canadian peace keepers?), perhaps Mr Vasiljkovic wasn't considered a big enough fish to fry so to speak? Even though the ICTY delegated the prosecution of minor war crimes cases to the local courts, even the Croatian judicial system don't have the resources to process all war crimes cases.
what a corrupt system is there in Australia anyway?
The system here in Australia is indeed a joke lately when it comes to war crimes cases. In an unrelated war crimes case (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54512), the Australian government for whatever reason decided to "advise" an East Timorese national to leave Australia.
Knin was a outlaw post of a capital city of a self-proclaimed para-state of the rioting terroristic Serbs there. and just in Den Hague the terrorist Mile Martic was sentenced to methinks 35 years..
*terrorist therefore - because Mile Martic was never recognised so to speak abandoned by Milosevic, by Belgrade..
As a matter of fact the wording of the arrest warrant by the Croatian authorities is one of the two reasons why Mr Vasiljkovic's appeal was upheld, in regards to referring to the now defunct "Republic of Serb Krajina" as illegal and unconstitutional in which it is.
The other reason was of course the supposed partiality of the Croatian judicial system against Serbs, in which the ratio of Serbs being prosecuted and convicted is much higher than compared to that for Croats. Even though the judges may haven't taken into consideration the possibility that the Serbs perpetrated the bulk of war crimes.
By that logic the ICTY should also be considered "biased against Serbs", because the majority of war crimes indictees are Serb. In spite of the fact that the ICTY attempted to address this perception of "anti-Serb" bias, by increasing the ratio of non-Serb indictments by charging our Generals in regards to operation "storm".
Gummo
10-16-2009, 01:06 PM
h-kjFuqrjC0
Jesu te "Chetno Song" charts originalne (jel toga stvarno bilo), ili je to cista zezancija?
Ricardo Vega
12-18-2009, 12:17 PM
From The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/dragan-vasiljkovic-loses-defamation-case/story-e6frg6nf-1225811749958):
Dragan Vasiljkovic loses defamation case
Natasha Robinson The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/) December 18, 2009 1:05PM
FORMER Serbian paramilitary commander Dragan Vasiljkovic has lost a long-running defamation action after a civil court was asked to determine the truth of allegations, including that he had committed war crimes.
In the trial it was asserted those events had occurred in the 1990s during the Balkans conflict in the former Yugoslavia when Mr Vasiljkovic headed up a paramilitary unit known as the Red Berets.
Mr Vasijlkovic launched a defamation action after The Australian in 2005 published several allegations, including that he had condoned the rape of women and had beaten prisoners.
But Mr Vasiljkovic defiantly told the NSW Supreme Court during the defamation hearing that he was a war hero and denied all allegations against him.
The article was published after Mr Vasiljkovic - who gave evidence during dictator Slobodan Milosevic's war crimes trial at The Hague - had returned to Australia and was working as a golf instructor in Perth.
Torben
12-19-2009, 05:56 PM
petak, 18. dec 2009, 21:31 -> 09:54
Australija: Kapetan Dragan kriv
Vrhovni sud australijske države Novi Južni Vels utvrdio da je Dragan Vasiljković, bivši komandant specijalnih snaga u Republici Srpskoj Krajini, počinio ratne zločine, da je odgovoran za mučenja i silovanja nesrpskog življa i da je odobrio masakr u Kninu.
Vlada Australije zahteva da suđenje Draganu Vasiljkoviću, poznatijem kao "Kapetan Dragan", bude održano u toj zemlji ukoliko on ne bude mogao da bude izručen u Hrvatsku.
Vrhovni sud australijske države Novi Južni Vels utvrdio je da je Vasiljković, bivši komandant specijalnih snaga u Republici Srpskoj Krajini, počinio ratne zločine, da je odgovoran za mučenja i silovanja nesrpskog življa i da je odobrio masakr u Kninu.
Visoki sud Australije razmotriće raniju odluku Federalnog suda prema kojoj Vasiljković ne treba da budu izručen u Hrvatsku jer tamo navodno ne bi imao pravedno suđenje, piše list "Australijen".
Grem Bluit, bivši zamenik glavnog tužioca Međunarodnog krivičnog suda za bivšu Jugoslaviju rekao je juče da je uveren da u Hrvatskoj može biti održano pošteno suđenje, uzimajući u obzir broj sličnih slučajeva procesuiranih u prethodnih nekoliko godina.
Vasiljković je kao četrnaestogodišnjak emigrirao u Australiju gde je služio u rezervnim jedinicama australijske vojske. Početkom devedesetih godina prošlog veka vratio se u tadašnju Jugoslaviju gde je preuzeo komandovanje srpskim paravojnim formacijama u vreme etničkih konflikta na Balkanu, navodi list.
Vasiljković, australijski državljanin rođen u Beogradu, uhapšen je u januaru 2006. godine, na osnovu poternice koju je izdala Hrvatska, koja ga je osumnjičila za ubistva hrvatskih civila u Republici Srpskoj Krajini od 1991. do 1995. godine.
Kapetan Dragan pušten je iz pritvora 4. septembra nakon što je prošao rok da vlada Australije uloži žalbu na odluku Federalnog suda da ne bude izručen u Hrvatsku.
http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/135/Hronika/379101/Australija:+Kapetan+Dragan+kriv.html
Ricardo Vega
03-30-2010, 02:50 AM
Government wins High Court appeal to extradite Dragan Vasiljkovic
UPDATED: Nicola Berkovic From: The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/) March 30, 2010 1:00PM
ALLEGED Serbian war criminal Dragan Vasiljkovic will be sent back to Croatia to face a war crimes trial after the Federal Government won its extradition appeal.
The High Court overturned a Full Federal Court ruling that Dragan Vasiljkovic could not be extradited to Croatia because he would not receive a fair trial as a result of his political beliefs.
The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/government-wins-high-court-appeal-to-extradite-dragan-vasiljkovic/story-e6frg6nf-1225847420023)
Mislim da ovo nije još više.
Bartholomew Roberts
03-30-2010, 09:52 AM
The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/government-wins-high-court-appeal-to-extradite-dragan-vasiljkovic/story-e6frg6nf-1225847420023)
Mislim da ovo nije još više.
Konacno! Nema vise zalbi.
A ovo je reklo sve: [the seven] judges deliberated for about 15 minutes before overturning that decision
Ricardo Vega
03-31-2010, 11:37 PM
AFP unable to find war crimes suspect Captain Dragan Vasiljkovic
Paul Maley and Peter Kogoy From: The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/) April 01, 2010 12:00AM
THE Australian Federal Police was frantically searching last night for an Australian accused of war crimes, after a five-year legal battle ended with the High Court ruling that an arrest warrant for him be reinstated and he be extradited to Croatia.
The disappearance of Dragan Vasiljkovic is a major embarrassment for the AFP, which is understood to have had officers monitoring him while he sat in the High Court on Monday.
The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/afp-unable-to-find-war-crimes-suspect-captain-dragan/story-e6frg6nf-1225848248255)
Znao sam ga!
Triglav
03-31-2010, 11:55 PM
The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/afp-unable-to-find-war-crimes-suspect-captain-dragan/story-e6frg6nf-1225848248255)
Znao sam ga!
Preko cega?
Jel' ti bio golf trainer?
Königin Luise von Preußen
04-01-2010, 12:19 AM
The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/afp-unable-to-find-war-crimes-suspect-captain-dragan/story-e6frg6nf-1225848248255)
..........Oh NO!
Ricardo Vega
04-01-2010, 12:31 AM
Preko cega?
Jel' ti bio golf trainer?
Samo crijevo osjećaj biti opravdan. I ne, ja nikada ne znaju da momak osobno.
Niccolo and Donkey
04-01-2010, 01:26 AM
Konacno! Nema vise zalbi.
A ovo je reklo sve:
Ja sam stvarno mislio da ga nece izrucit......sta Srbi tamo dole kazu?
Bartholomew Roberts
04-01-2010, 11:30 AM
Ja sam stvarno mislio da ga nece izrucit......sta Srbi tamo dole kazu?
Placu, i jaucu kao kada su bili 'zrtve ustaskog terora' rani 90tih. Znam da su dosta novaca sasule u ovom slucaju na njegovu obranu, tako da ce odvjetnici moci se nakupovat cokoladni jaja za Uskrs.
U medijama, pogotovo TV, nema nista o ovom slucaju, tako da nikoga osim srba i hrvata ne zanima njegov slucaj ;)
Ricardo Vega
04-02-2010, 12:06 AM
Croatia warned alleged war criminal would flee if given bail
SELMA MILOVANOVIC AND DAN HARRISON
April 2, 2010
THE Croatian government warned Australian authorities last year that a war crimes suspect, on the run after the High Court this week approved his extradition to Croatia, was a flight risk.
The Croatian Justice Minister, Ivan Simonovic, said in Zagreb yesterday the government had warned the Attorney-General last September that Dragan Vasiljkovic, also known as Daniel Snedden, could flee if released on bail.
The Sydney Morning Herald (http://www.smh.com.au/national/croatia-warned-alleged-war-criminal-would-flee-if-given-bail-20100401-ri4u.html)
Zašto nisam iznenađen!?!
Ace Rimmer
04-02-2010, 09:45 AM
Izgleda da se jedino vi gastarbajteri uzbuđujete oko ovoga.
Ja ga osobno ne želim u Hrvatskoj, i ovako mi je pun kurac njegove odvratne face na naslovnicama svih novina svaki dan.
Domobran88
04-02-2010, 12:30 PM
Izgleda da se jedino vi gastarbajteri uzbuđujete oko ovoga.
Ja ga osobno ne želim u Hrvatskoj, i ovako mi je pun kurac njegove odvratne face na naslovnicama svih novina svaki dan.
Pa predpostavljam da niti ne bi bio pokopan u Hrvatskoj, vjerojatno bi ga pokopali ili u Australiji ili Srbiji. Da je ova država učinkovita, ne bi se njega moralo izručiti Republici Hrvatskoj da se izvrši presuda, nego bi se ista izvršila u Australiji, kako je to i UDBa radila.
Triglav
04-02-2010, 12:53 PM
Pa predpostavljam da niti ne bi bio pokopan u Hrvatskoj, vjerojatno bi ga pokopali ili u Australiji ili Srbiji. Da je ova država učinkovita, ne bi se njega moralo izručiti Republici Hrvatskoj da se izvrši presuda, nego bi se ista izvršila u Australiji, kako je to i UDBa radila.
Pa bas u Australiji su Hrvati vise polit. emigranti nego gastarbajteri ("Dom Ante Pavelica" itd.).
Zar nisu oni svih tih godina mogli nesto aranzirati?
Ace Rimmer
04-02-2010, 12:56 PM
Pa predpostavljam da niti ne bi bio pokopan u Hrvatskoj, vjerojatno bi ga pokopali ili u Australiji ili Srbiji. Da je ova država učinkovita, ne bi se njega moralo izručiti Republici Hrvatskoj da se izvrši presuda, nego bi se ista izvršila u Australiji, kako je to i UDBa radila.
Tako nešto, ili vidimo se na bojištu opet.
Kako ne podržavam suđenja našim generalima, ne podržavam nikakva druga licemjerna suđenja.Ka da nemamo drugih problema nego se zamarat kretenima.
Domobran88
04-02-2010, 03:30 PM
Tako nešto, ili vidimo se na bojištu opet.
Upravo tako...
Kako ne podržavam suđenja našim generalima, ne podržavam nikakva druga licemjerna suđenja.Ka da nemamo drugih problema nego se zamarat kretenima.
Ja sam protiv sudjenja u Haagu, bilo Srbima ili Hrvatima. Ali, za to sam da pobjednik treba suditi poraženom (zašto bi mi Hrvati bili iznimke pa opraštali i "davali drugi obraz"?), što nakon ovog rata nije moglo biti ostvareno iz razloga što hrvatska pobjeda nije bila podpuna. Nit' je hrvatska vojska ušla u Banja Luku nit' u Zemun. Isto bi se dogodilo i nakon ww2, da nisu Rusi ušli u Berlin i demokratsko-komunistički saveznici okupirali cielu Njemačku, nikad ne bi došlo do pada nacional socialističkog režima i sudjenja u Nurnbergu. No dobro, s obzirom na situaciju u 'regionu', čini se da će se poviest opet ponoviti pa ćemo imati našu pobjedu...
matias017
04-02-2010, 05:12 PM
Ja sam za suđenja i pobjednicima i poraženima.... Da se unaprijed zna da će se svima suditi to bi spriječilo i veliki broj zločina i kriminalnih djela jer su do sada svi mislili da će dobiti rat i da ih se neće pitati što su činili...
Domobran88
04-03-2010, 11:22 AM
Ja sam za suđenja i pobjednicima i poraženima.... Da se unaprijed zna da će se svima suditi to bi spriječilo i veliki broj zločina i kriminalnih djela jer su do sada svi mislili da će dobiti rat i da ih se neće pitati što su činili...
U ratu i ljubavi (Terry Pratchett kaže i u operi) sve je dopušteno. :D
matias017
04-03-2010, 02:11 PM
Zašto je onda Norac u zatvoru?
Domobran88
04-03-2010, 06:07 PM
Zašto je onda Norac u zatvoru?
Pa zato što se prestalo poštovati poviestne zakonitosti i nuždnosti. No, kao što rekoh, to će im se obiti o glavu, jer takav sustav ne može duže obstati.
Triglav
04-04-2010, 09:02 PM
U ratu ... sve je dopušteno. :D
Ta teorija je samo dobra dok si jaci od drugoga.
Domobran88
04-05-2010, 07:36 PM
Ta teorija je samo dobra dok si jaci od drugoga.
Nije važno je li dobra za neku od strana, nego je važno da je objektivno pravedna i izpravna.
Königin Luise von Preußen
05-12-2010, 11:56 AM
http://dnevnik.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/uhicen-kapetan-dragan.html
U Australiji uhićen Kapetan Dragan
Sydney, 12.05.2010., 12:48 | Mi. Dr.
Australska federalna poklicija uhitila je Kapetana Dragana nešto prije 17 sati po lokalnom vremenu na još uvijek nepoznatoj lokaciji, piše The Australian. Policija je središte svoje potrage usmjerila na regiju Coffs Harbour koja se nalazi na sjeveru Australije, gdje je zadnja poznata adresa Vasiljkovića.
Dragan Vasiljković, australskog imena Danniel Snedden, u bijegu je od 30. ožujka, kada je australski Vrhovni sud odobrio Vasiljkovićevo izručenje Hrvatskoj, gdje ga se sumnjiči za ratni zločin. 55-godišnji australski državljanin tereti se da je naredio mučenja i maltretiranja zarobljenih hrvatskih vojnika.
>> Odlučeno: 'Kapetan Dragan' može biti izručen Hrvatskoj!
>> 'Kapetan Dragan se može skrivati, ali ne može pobjeći'
The Australian piše kako je australska policija u slučaju odbjeglog Kapetana Dragana usko surađivala s nizozemskom policijom pa se pretpostavlja kako su upravo od nizozemske strane stigle informacije koje su dovele do uhićenja.
Ministarstvo pravosuđa zadovoljno
Priopćenjem u kojem izražavaju zadovoljstvo uhićenjem Vasiljkovića, oglasilo se Ministarstvo pravosuđa. 'Dragan Vasiljković biti će zadržan u ekstradicijskom pritvoru temeljem Zakona o izručenju iz 1988., do donošenja konačne odluke Ministra unutarnjih poslova o tome hoće li će biti izručen Republici Hrvatskoj. Kako je zahtjev za izručenje podnesen kako bi se Draganu Vasiljkoviću sudilo za najteža kaznena djela ratnog zločina, Ministarstvo pravosuđa Republike Hrvatske pozdravlja uspjeh australskih vlasti u pronalaženju i uhićenju Dragana Vasiljkovića te izražava čvrstu vjeru da će Ministar unutarnjih poslova donijeti odluku kojom će dopustiti izručenje Dragana Vasiljkovića. Ministarstvo pravosuđa Republike Hrvatske izražava spremnost za nastavak suradnje s nadležnom australskim vlastima i stoji na raspolaganju za dostavu svih potrebnih podataka i dokumentacije za finaliziranje ovog postupka', stoji u priopćenju koje potpisuje glasnogovornica Vesna Dovranić.
Triglav
05-12-2010, 12:29 PM
Vrhovni sud Australije je donio odluku da Vasiljkovica treba izruciti, izrucenje je zato samo jos pitanje dana.
Ricardo Vega
05-12-2010, 01:37 PM
To je gotovo. Hvala bogu.
Bartholomew Roberts
05-13-2010, 09:27 AM
Policija je središte svoje potrage usmjerila na regiju Coffs Harbour koja se nalazi na sjeveru Australije, gdje je zadnja poznata adresa Vasiljkovića.
:lies: :lol kakve dobre novine
Königin Luise von Preußen
05-13-2010, 10:48 AM
:lies: :lol kakve dobre novine
što želiš stime reći ? - i ako sam primjetila mnoge gramatičke greške pravopisa u tom članku (možda radi brzine objave, možda radi loših prevodioca a možda što mnogi hrvatski emigranti u Australiji neznaju više hrvatski) :confused: -> što je sadržajno greška/laž?? :confused:
Bartholomew Roberts
05-13-2010, 11:09 AM
što želiš stime reći ? - i ako sam primjetila mnoge gramatičke greške pravopisa u tom članku (možda radi brzine objave, možda radi loših prevodioca a možda što mnogi hrvatski emigranti u Australiji neznaju više hrvatski) :confused: -> što je sadržajno greška/laž?? :confused:
Bio sam nedavno u Splitu - na sjeveru Europe lol
Königin Luise von Preußen
05-13-2010, 11:21 AM
Bio sam nedavno u Splitu - na sjeveru Europe lol
lol bravo, Barthy! :thanks:
wiki says: Coffs Harbour is a coastal city located on the north coast of New South Wales about 540 km (340 miles) north of Sydney, 385 km (240 miles) north of Newcastle, and 440 km (275 miles) south of Brisbane
:eurotard: :whip:
Ricardo Vega
09-29-2010, 01:23 AM
Bosnian mother claims Dragan Vasiljkovic repeatedly raped her
Natasha Robinson The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/) September 29, 2010 12:00AM
A BOSNIAN mother who claims that Dragan Vasiljkovic repeatedly raped her says she relives the horror of her wartime ordeal in every waking moment.
Jamila Subasic has revealed herself publicly for the first time as a rape victim of the accused Balkans war criminal whose Serb troops called him "the Prince".
In an interview aired on ABC TV's Foreign Correspondent program last night, Ms Subasic spoke in detail of the alleged rape, which she says still torments her daily.
The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/bosnian-mother-claimsl-dragan-vasiljkovic-repeatedly-raped-her/story-e6frg6nf-1225931188617)
By Foreign Correspondent (http://www.abc.net.au/foreign)'s Trevor Bormann
Posted Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:00am AEST
Dragan Vasiljkovic is a man of many faces - he's revered by some, reviled by others.
The former paramilitary commander has languished in Sydney prisons for the best part of five years without charge.
But the story of Captain Dragan, as he is known, may well be about to take another remarkable turn; he could become the first Australian citizen extradited for war crimes.
ABC News (http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/the-real-captain-dragan/)
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