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The Retard
01-20-2006, 05:44 PM
Wicker Man director is flaming furious (http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1921042005)

BRIAN PENDREIGH

HE gave the world arguably the most iconic Scottish film ever made but a US remake which adds a swarm of killer bees and changes the sex of a pagan lord has proved too much for Robin Hardy.

The original director of The Wicker Man has called in his lawyers to have his name taken off promotional material for the $40m movie even before lead star Nicolas Cage has finished filming.

"The amazing thing is that all the publicity keeps on saying that I have written the screenplay, which is obviously not true," says Hardy, who did not even take a writing credit on the original, though he worked closely with writer Anthony Shaffer.

"I have had to have my lawyers call them, not because I particularly care, but it's clearly wrong that it should be out on websites and in the trades and everything."

In the original, Christopher Lee played Lord Summerisle, head of a pagan community on a remote Scottish island where locals resort to human sacrifice when the crops fail.

In the new version, set in the US, his character will be played by Ellen Burstyn, who won the best actress Oscar for Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and also played the mother in The Exorcist.

Controversy is raging in cyberspace, with fans posting messages on the Internet Movie Database headed "What happened to Scotland?", "Why do Americans have to mess with perfection?" and "What the flipping Hell?"

Hollywood has fallen flat on its face in the recent past attempting to remake British classics in American settings.

Get Carter substituted Seattle for Newcastle and Sylvester Stallone for Michael Caine, while Alfie relocated from Swinging Sixties London to modern-day New York, with Jude Law in place of Caine.

Hardy is highly sceptical about the new Wicker Man. "I don't quite understand what they're doing. It appears that not only is the lady involved, but there are also attacks by killer bees, which sounds like a really old-style horror film."

The original Wicker Man was firmly rooted in Scotland. Hardy and Shaffer carried out extensive research on pagan rituals and were fascinated by references to a giant wicker man, in which Druids supposedly burned prisoners (though this may have been Roman propaganda).

They freely mixed folklore and music from different parts of Britain, but chose Scotland as the setting because of its history of fundamentalist religious sects and remote communities. The film combined locations all over Galloway with footage from Culzean Castle in Ayrshire and Plockton in Wester Ross, and aerial shots of Skye.

Edward Woodward played an upright Scottish police sergeant and devout Christian, who arrives on the island to investigate the sinister disappearance of a young girl. Cage is an American sheriff in the new version, which is currently shooting with Canada doubling for Maine.

In the original, Woodward's character was a virgin, making him ideal for sacrifice. That element has been ditched from the remake, because it was thought that while audiences would accept the idea of an American community that practised human sacrifice, the idea of a grown-up virgin was just too farfetched.

Instead, Cage's character has acquired a serious allergy to bees and travels with a bee-sting kit, as well as rosary beads and self-help tapes.

In an attempt to give the story a feminist slant, writer-director Neil LaBute has turned the island into a matriarchal society, headed by Burstyn.

Christopher Lee, who regards The Wicker Man as his best film, has been critical of the remake plans.

"What do I think of it being played by a woman, when it was played by a man in 1972, as part of a Scottish pagan community, and now it's played by a woman with the same name? What do I think of it? Nothing. There's nothing to say."

A spokesman for the production company Emmett/Furla in Beverly Hills refused to discuss the film beyond confirmation of the casting.

The Wicker Man is widely regarded as a masterpiece for the unique way it mixed horror, music and folklore, though cinema chains did not want it when it was completed in 1973. A cut-down version finally went out the following year as the bottom half of a double bill.

The film gradually acquired a cult following. Interest was fuelled by rumours that lost footage had been buried in the foundations of the M3 and stories that Rod Stewart wanted to buy the negative and destroy it because of girlfriend Britt Ekland's nude scenes. Three different versions survive and have been shown on television and released on video. There have been articles and books about the film, a Wicker Man festival and even an academic conference.

Meanwhile, Hardy and Lee have been developing a film of their own that will revisit the theme of paganism in modern Scotland.

The story was originally called The Riding of the Laddie, is now called May Day, and follows two young American evangelists, who discover the Border ridings are more than just a quaint tourist attraction.

It has been a long haul, but Hardy now has a deal with the Scottish publisher Luath to bring out the story in the form of a novel next year. He has 80% of the £3m budget in place for the film, with much of money ironically coming from Canada, and he hopes to shoot in Scotland and Texas in the spring.

Vanessa Redgrave and Sean Astin, from The Lord of the Rings, are committed to the film.

Sinclair
01-20-2006, 06:05 PM
Sounds like the new version is gonna suck. He has a bee allergy, and it just so happens there are swarms of killer bees? Huh?

Anima Eternae
01-20-2006, 06:36 PM
http://media.putfile.com/01-The-Wicker-Man

brigadier Biggles
01-20-2006, 07:29 PM
the above MTV style trash anima posted is exactly who this remake is aimed at.

btw - http://wickerman.8.forumer.com/index.php

Hakluyt
01-20-2006, 07:39 PM
Kind of a silly film to begin with IMO

Anima Eternae
01-20-2006, 07:44 PM
the above MTV style trash anima posted is exactly who this remake is aimed at.

btw - http://wickerman.8.forumer.com/index.php

Iron Maiden is not MTV style trash.

The Retard
01-20-2006, 08:50 PM
the above MTV style trash anima posted is exactly who this remake is aimed at.

btw - http://wickerman.8.forumer.com/index.php

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3448/wick8zb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

brigadier Biggles
01-20-2006, 08:54 PM
Iron Maiden is not MTV style trash.

dont like that.

jcs
01-21-2006, 01:59 AM
Kind of a silly film to begin with IMO
Kind of, but it had charm.

The Retard
01-21-2006, 04:12 AM
When you put the film into context: this is a 1970s, horror film; it is campy and silly at times, but it's still better than half the shit I seen from Hollywood.

jcs
01-21-2006, 04:18 AM
When you put the film into context: this is a 1970s, horror film; it is campy and silly at times, but it's still better than half the shit I seen from Hollywood.
It doesn't really have a horror feel, like... at all. Maybe that's because part of me was rooting for the pagan guys.

The Retard
01-21-2006, 04:24 AM
It doesn't really have a horror feel, like... at all. Maybe that's because part of me was rooting for the pagan guys.

Maybe it's best described as a thriller, I don't know. :confused:

Péter
01-21-2006, 04:32 AM
The level of morbidity corresponds to the perspective from which one is viewing the film. To a Christian, it may be horror unfolding; to the pagan, it is ritual; to one without a soul, it is insanity.

jcs
01-21-2006, 04:43 AM
The level of morbidity corresponds to the perspective from which one is viewing the film. To a Christian, it may be horror unfolding; to the pagan, it is ritual; to one without a soul, it is insanity.
The thing I like most about the film is that one can sympathize with all the characters to some degree. While the Christian detective guy was the main character and thus the easiest to care for, he was also judgemental enough that one might think that he was not entirely undeserving of his fate (kind of a judgemental thing to say on my part, I suppose :p ); the pagans were keeping their traditions alive, which is admirable, but at the same time this particular tradition was, from the modern scientific standpoint (or really from any vantage point that allows some degree of doubt, asking, "What if human sacrifice and agriculture aren't related?"), rather insane and when one considers that the victim is hardly a willing participant, quite inhumane.
So it's not horror in that it doesn't fall in that genre, but there is a component of horror to the film, that experienced by the outsider; and at the same time, this horror brings about joy and hope. The Wicker Man is a film which embraces the whole of life.

sugartits
01-21-2006, 06:52 PM
The Wicker Man is my favourite movie. This remake is going to be a bastardization :( Can't they think of something else to flop the matriarchal society crap into? How about lesbian Druid soft-core porn? Much more appropriate for hollywood.

I bet they're going to get rid of the phallic symbols too :mad: The best part of the movie is the songs and the parade. It also showed a lot of interesting traditions and beliefs aside from the human sacrifice.

some great quotes:

Sergeant Howie: And what of the true god, whose glory, churches and monasteries have been built on these islands for generations past? Now sir, what of him?

Lord Summerisle: He's dead. Can't complain, had his chance and in modern parlance, blew it.


Lord Summerisle: I think I could turn and live with animals. They are so placid and self-contained. They do not lie awake in the dark and weep for their sins. They do not make me sick discussing their duty to God. Not one of them kneels to another or to his own kind that lived thousands of years ago. Not one of them is respectable or unhappy, all over the earth.

brigadier Biggles
01-21-2006, 10:50 PM
Lord Summerisle: I think I could turn and live with animals. They are so placid and self-contained. They do not lie awake in the dark and weep for their sins. They do not make me sick discussing their duty to God. Not one of them kneels to another or to his own kind that lived thousands of years ago. Not one of them is respectable or unhappy, all over the earth.

golden quote.

Petr
01-22-2006, 12:52 AM
the pagans were keeping their traditions alive, which is admirable, but at the same time this particular tradition was, from the modern scientific standpoint (or really from any vantage point that allows some degree of doubt, asking, "What if human sacrifice and agriculture aren't related?"), rather insane and when one considers that the victim is hardly a willing participant, quite inhumane.
Actually those neo-pagans were not being true to genuine pagan tradition, for in the film it is eventually revealed that their whole religion was created by an unbelieving 19th-century Lord of the manor, a scientist who in a Leo-Straussian manner gave these peasants a made-up religion to follow.

Before his death, the Christian detective predicts that if the crops will not get better, next year it will be Lord Summerisle himself who is going to get sacrificed. (Actually it seems that Summerisle arranged the railroading of the detective to avoid the sacrificial death that would have properly belonged to him as the ritual lord of the island)


Petr

il ragno
01-29-2006, 02:04 AM
The Wicker Man is my favourite movie. This remake is going to be a bastardization :( Can't they think of something else to flop the matriarchal society crap into? How about lesbian Druid soft-core porn? Much more appropriate for hollywood.

I bet they're going to get rid of the phallic symbols too :mad: The best part of the movie is the songs and the parade. It also showed a lot of interesting traditions and beliefs aside from the human sacrifice.

Agree completely: another remake of a classic that absolutely did not need to be "reimagined" by ponytailed hacks....along with THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, PLANET OF THE APES, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD, THE PINK PANTHER.....

THE WICKER MAN was and is a classic of devious subversive horror, and Sgt Howie is the one role Edward Woodward was born to play. The shocks in the film are brilliant - they're not overt horror-movie jolts, they are casual moments of sudden perversity occuring in an overall ambience of folk-story innocence and whimsy, and mostly shot in broad daylight. An important movie that gets its scares through tweaking Howie's (and our) perceptions of reality.

And Petr is correct, the movie does not necessarily side with the pagans. Howie gives them a perfectly logical, botanical explanation of why their crops failed - and will fail again, whether or not he is sacrificed - and Chris Lee shouts "They will NOT fail!" like any Billy Sunday or Jimmy Swaggart might....to shout down the heretic.

What gets up my nose is that 3/4 of all the comments made about THE WICKER MAN sneeringly patronize it for the music or the haircuts or the sideburns or the cuff sizes on the pants - i.e., "it's terribly dated now", the mating cry of the moron who can't see past his own nose. The idea that a thing being made in a specific time and place will be of that time and place must somehow overwhelm them; me, I can't picture a fate worse than being spot-welded to the Eternal Now.

Petr
11-18-2008, 10:33 AM
Actually those neo-pagans were not being true to genuine pagan tradition, for in the film it is eventually revealed that their whole religion was created by an unbelieving 19th-century Lord of the manor, a scientist who in a Leo-Straussian manner gave these peasants a made-up religion to follow.

Before his death, the Christian detective predicts that if the crops will not get better, next year it will be Lord Summerisle himself who is going to get sacrificed. (Actually it seems that Summerisle arranged the railroading of the detective to avoid the sacrificial death that would have properly belonged to him as the ritual lord of the island)
Pinging.

I just read a Christian review of "Wicker Man" that had the same idea as I did - on the "Straussian" or Machiavellian nature of the island's religion:

On the other hand, the paganism in "Wicker Man" is uniquely modern. Consider Lord Summerisle (Christopher Lee), mayor and overlord of Summerisle. Lord Summerisle's grandfather (Summerisle I) brought paganism to the island (much as St. Patrick brought Christianity to Ireland). To Summerisle I, paganism wasn't a serious religion - it was simply pragmatic. It made good sense to encourage paganism among the people, because it invigorated them and inspired them to work harder. He was a botanist who came to the island for its unique environment, which was ideal for growing certain types of fruit. With the soil he produced fruit, and with the people he produced an entire workforce built around the old Celtic faith. With both, he created a thriving industry based on export with little or no import.

Summerisle I handed the industry over to his son, Summerisle II, who began to take the pagan religions more seriously. By the time Summerisle III (Lee) took over the operation, the island was a thriving society, isolated from Christianity and immersed in "the old religion."

This return to paganism (post-Christian paganism), using paganism as a cornerstone upon which a new society is built, is what gives "The Wicker Man" its modern context. Throughout European history, whenever coups were staged or regimes were overthrown, the insurgence was often coupled with a return to pagan beliefs and rituals. In the 19th century, with the advent of European nationalism, there was a renewed curiosity in "the old religions" - an ancient European identity apart from Christianity. The rise of the Nazi party in Germany was marked by an occultic revival, a return to ideas and images rooted in Germany's pre-Christian past. Acknowledgement of pagan history was a tool Hitler used to unify the German people.

This is precisely the tactic used by Lord Summerisle in "The Wicker Man." When Sgt. Howie enters his mansion, we see that Lord Summerisle does not live in the strange pagan past which so envelops his island - everything about his home is typical of a modern Scottish manor. The influence of modernity, seemingly lost to the citizens of Summerisle, has nonetheless been retained by their leader (his Nietzschean reference to the death of God is only further proof of his modern worldview...Howie, true to his character, responds with a reference to old monasteries). He uses their pagan beliefs as a tool to keep their spirits high and their work ethic strong - it is a morale-booster. Much as Hitler unified his people with a profound sense of national identity, so Lord Summerisle has unified his people with a profound sense of religious identity.
http://www.vagrantcafe.com/christiancinema/2004_02_17_archive.htm


Petr

Petr
11-18-2008, 11:47 AM
http://www.vagrantcafe.com/christiancinema/2004_02_17_archive.htm
Btw, this article compares Wicker Man's theme of clash between Christianity and paganism to Tarkovsky's epic Andrei Rublev. In that film, there is a scene where monk Andrei stumbles into a secret pagan summer celebration in the middle of a medieval Russian forest - here:

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