New generation doesn't blink at interracial relationships

[harjit]

New generation doesn't blink at interracial relationships

By Sharon Jayson, USA TODAY

Ryan Knapick and Josh Baker have been best friends since fifth grade. Colette Gregory entered the picture in high school. She and Josh are dating now. Knapick is white, Gregory is black and Baker is half-Hispanic. To them, race doesn't matter.

"People are finding people with common interests and common perspectives and are putting race aside," says Knapick, 22, a May graduate of Indiana University who works at a machine shop and lives with his parents in Munster, Ind.

He and his friends are among an estimated 46.3 million Americans ages 14 to 24 — the older segment of the most diverse generation in American society. (Most demographers say this "Millennial" generation began in the early 1980s, after Generation X.) These young people have friends of different races and also may date someone of another race.

This age group is more tolerant and open-minded than previous generations, according to an analysis of studies released last year by the Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement, part of the University of Maryland's School of Public Policy. The center focuses on ages 15 to 25.

Another study by Teenage Research Unlimited in Northbrook, Ill., found six of 10 teens say their friends include members of diverse racial backgrounds.

Unlike their parents and grandparents, today's teens and twentysomethings grew up with "diversity," "multicultural" and "inclusion" as buzzwords. Many were required to take college courses in cultural diversity. Now the media fuel this colorblindness as movies, TV and advertising portray interracial friendship and romance. (Related story: Outside the race box)

"Race is becoming less of a deal in dating," says Kriss Turner, a television writer and producer from Los Angeles who wrote the screenplay for the movie Something New, which opened Friday. The ensemble cast features Sanaa Lathan, Simon Baker, Alfre Woodard and Blair Underwood in a tale of a single black woman who finds her dreams of marrying an "ideal black man" shattered by her attraction to a white guy.

Some attitudinal changes are based in demographics. About 33% of those under 18 are racial or ethnic minorities, and about 20% of elementary- and high school-age students are immigrants or children of immigrants, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

Racial diversity is especially common in college friendships because that age group is exposed to a wider range of people, and college students have more opportunities to become friends with peers of other races, says Anthony Lising Antonio, an associate professor of education at Stanford University, who has conducted research on friendship diversity.

It's not that young people are specifically seeking out friendships with other races, kids say.

"It goes beyond that to who you get along with," says Karina Anglada, 17, a high school senior in Chicago whose parents are from Puerto Rico.

Progress at a price?

Many would say a new generation that considers race irrelevant is something to be celebrated — the fulfillment of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream that his children "will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

But some experts say the notion of a generation that ignores race paints too rosy a picture.

They worry that decades devoted to ending racial segregation and creating a colorblind society may have created a new problem: a generation so unconcerned about race that it ignores disparities that still exist.
[This is the kind of stuff where I tend to part ways with a lot of liberals... disparity is an unavoidable part of life, for freak sakes - Harjit]

"People think this sort of colorblindness is a kind of progress, but I see it as more pernicious than that," says Tyrone Forman, an associate professor of African-American studies and sociology at the University of Illinois-Chicago.

His research, based on data from the University of Michigan's annual Monitoring the Future survey, suggests a troublesome side to racial colorblindness.

Even though young people report having friends of other races, Forman says, those friendships don't necessarily lead to a reduction in negative attitudes toward a racial group, because people view their own friends as an exception to whatever stereotype may exist.

Such feelings, along with studies that show less concern for racial issues among white high school seniors in 2003 compared with 30 years ago, makes him believe there should be more and not less talk about race, Forman says.

The data suggest young people "are increasingly becoming comfortable with racial and ethnic inequality," he says.

"In the socioeconomic indicators — wealth, income, housing — we see persistent patterns of racial and ethnic disparity."

Forman says his analysis reveals a generation that doesn't believe these social issues — at the heart of the civil rights movement — affect them personally. In 2003, 17% of students said they were "never concerned" with hunger and poverty, compared with 7% in 1976, he says. And on race, 27% were "never concerned" three years ago, compared with 13% surveyed in 1976.

Some of his data have been published in a chapter of the 2004 book The Changing Terrain of Race And Ethnicity, edited by Maria Krysan and Amanda Lewis, and published by the Russell Sage Foundation. Additional data are in the unpublished manuscript Racial Apathy and Colorblindness in Post-Katrina America, he says.

"We have this sense that to talk about race is to be racist. That's what people have been told," says Forman, 35, who is black and is married to a white colleague at the university. "That's fundamentally what kids are reflecting back on us."

The 'color-mute' syndrome

Rebecca Bigler, 42, a psychology professor who directs the Gender and Racial Attitudes Lab at the University of Texas-Austin, traces such attitudes to baby boomer parents who may have set a tone for raising colorblind kids.

"It makes us feel racist if we acknowledge race, so we try not to, and we end up being color-mute," she says. "Children learn from their parents that you don't talk about race."

Bigler is white. Her former husband, the father of her teenage son, is black. People talked about race when she was a child in the '70s, she says, but now the younger generation — especially white kids — believe that racial injustice is "a thing of the past."

"Society is still marked by racial inequality, and my worry is that it won't get addressed," she says.

Evidence of inequity is ubiquitous: A Department of Justice study released last year shows that blacks and Hispanics were more likely than whites to be searched, arrested and subjected to police use of force. And last month, the Civil Rights Project at Harvard University issued a report about inequality in American schools, even as the system becomes increasingly multiracial.

Where students go to school depends on where they live, which is dependent upon family wealth. The Harvard study found that segregation isn't simply a black/white divide but a multiracial one, in which whites remain the most isolated group and the least likely to attend multiracial schools. California schools are the nation's most segregated, the study found.

'Common interests, not color'

Gregory, 24, knows that firsthand. She was born in Gary, Ind., and grew up in Los Angeles; she was the only black person in a private school in her Bel Air neighborhood. She returned to Indiana for high school, the same Catholic school Knapick and Baker attended.

"It's more natural to me to be in a diverse setting and to be attracted to people because of common interests and not because of common color," says Gregory, who works in fundraising at a Chicago theater company. She earned two degrees from Northwestern University.

Baker, 23, who graduated from Loyola University in Chicago and is an accounts manager for a Chicago consulting firm, says his high school's diversity allowed him to be friends with whites, blacks and Hispanics. He says he's Hispanic, like his mother. His father is white but is unsure of his heritage because he was adopted, Baker says.

Knapick, who is seeking work in his college major of criminal justice, bonded with Baker playing basketball, running track and as Boy Scouts. Both are Eagle Scouts and earned their honors at the same ceremony.

The young go through phases

Colorblindness might not always seem apparent early on; in high school, for example, students often sit at cafeteria tables largely segregated by race.

But several experts, including Pamela Perry, an assistant professor of community studies at the University of California-Santa Cruz, say such behavior is a phase. "In times of identity development, students clump with who they know and what's familiar," she says. "It seems to pass. Then they get out of high school and into college and they start mixing up more."

Some of that mixing is a result of record numbers of immigrants, both documented and undocumented, totaling more than 35 million over the past two decades and representing the largest wave of immigration in American history, says Marcelo Surez-Orozco, founder of the Harvard Immigration Project, now known as Immigration Studies @ NYU. He is a professor of globalization and education at New York University.

"We have more groups coming at a faster rate and changing our society with a speed we've never seen before," he says.

In addition to immigrant families, the number of children from other countries adopted by U.S. parents has tripled from 1990 to 2005. International adoptions made up almost 18% of the approximately 127,000 adoptions last year, according to federal data based on immigrant visas issued to orphans coming to the USA.

The fact that white parents are adopting babies from China, Guatemala or South Korea who don't look like them reinforces the idea that race matters less. So does the fact that interracial marriages, though still not common, have increased from less than 1% of U.S. marriages in 1970 to almost 6% of marriages in the 2000 Census.

The tide began turning when the Supreme Court in 1967 struck down laws in 16 states forbidding marriage between blacks and whites.

No pressure to 'choose sides'

A Gallup Poll on interracial dating in June found that 95% of 18- to 29-year-olds approve of blacks and whites dating. About 60% of that age group said they have dated someone of a different race.

Olivia Lin, 18, of Brooklyn, N.Y., is Asian; she's dating someone who is Puerto Rican and says her family is "pretty open to it." Lin, who will graduate in the spring with both a high school diploma and an associate's degree, in the fall will attend Brandeis University in Waltham, Mass., the only non-sectarian Jewish-sponsored college or university in the country.

High school freshman Aliya Whitaker, 14, of Montclair, N.J., says her mother is Jamaican and her father is African-American. Her mother encourages her to make friends with those of other races.

"She's never told me to stick with my own people or choose sides," Whitaker says. "When my friends have quinceaeras (Hispanic girls' 15th-birthday celebrations) or bar mitzvahs (a Jewish coming-of-age ceremony for 13-year-olds), she encourages me to go.

"But she says: 'Remember where you come from.'"

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-07-colorblind_x.htm

[Burrhus]

Thanks, Harjit. Names of race-mixers added to the WN-Uber-Database to be "dealt with" after the "change-over".

[Starr]

The data suggest young people "are increasingly becoming comfortable with racial and ethnic inequality," he says.

It sounds like this person is concerned about the thought of too many whites potentially loosing their guilt complex. And shouldn't the thought of all of these people being "color blind" make a true believer in "human equality" jump for joy, after all these racial disaprities only exist because people are not "color blind" enough, correct? This concern obviously suggests this person knows, that even if racism is no longer a factor that these widspread racial disparities will continue to exist. Now why on earth would that be?

This is so typical of liberal think and the way they claim to believe all people are equal, while on the other hand looking at minorities as little babies who must be saved from themselves. "race blind" is good, they seem to think, but if too many people don't think too much about race, then they are also going to be much more likely to believe that blacks and others who lag behind need and are capable of pulling themseles up by their own bootstraps and taking care of their problems for themselves(and when they continue not to do so and lag behind?) No more excuses. Oh, no. What to do?

[harjit]

It sounds like this person is concerned about the thought of too many whites potentially loosing their guilt complex. And shouldn't the thought of all of these people being "color blind" make a true believer in "human equality" jump for joy, after all these racial disaprities only exist because people are not "color blind" enough, correct? This concern obviously suggests this person knows, that even if racism is no longer a factor that these widspread racial disparities will continue to exist. Now why on earth would that be?
I think these people are trying to have it all - colourblindness AND equality.

I see the two as contradictory.

If someone is concerned that there are not enough black theoretical physicists, fine, but it doesn't sound very colour-blind to me.

And it is highly unlikely that all races will be perfectly distributed in all fields of endeavor proportional to their population, whether the cause is genetic, environment, or even just pure chance.

It's cool if private individuals and orgs put money and effort into trying to help certain ethnic groups, but it shouldn't be part of the legislation.

[Vindex]

Being in the age area of said generation, they don't blink they sneer. Maybe not openly, do to social created pressure from above but the instinct is still there.

And:

Rebecca Bigler, 42, a psychology professor who directs the Gender and Racial Attitudes Lab at the University of Texas-Austin.

This bitch needs to get a job.

[Boleslaw]

I can certainly say that most young whites I know don't take "racism" seriously at all. As the article states, they maybe mute, but break the silence and you'll hear uproars about all the anti-white BS.

This is overall an interesting article, which goes to show how complex inter-racial relations really are. There never is one side to the story.

The same media which glories in the rise of interracial relationships is the same media that'll cry about the rise of hate crimes, hate groups, hate sites, etc. the next minute. And it's widely admitted that those people participating in such are predominately younger and younger. Last I heard, the average age of KKK membership is in the 20's.

So those are the two faces of Multicultural America.

Adrian Hastings also noted this in his famous study of nationalism. Constant contact with the other is a two edge sword. It breaks down old barriers, but sets up new barriers. Interestingly, Hastings noted the important role that increased intermarriages and other inter-relationships have in the renewal of ethnic sentiments, along with ethnic tensions. The bloodiest fighting in Bosnia occured within areas with the highest rates of intermarriage. This has also occured within London neighborhoods with the largest Muslim populations, where people are more openly proclaim their cultural heritage as English and Christian.

And this occuring within American society in one way or another is being more openly talked about; how American society is breaking up along racial-cultural lines.

Some sociologists have already termed this "voluntary apartheid". Much of Post-modern social theory talks about society breaking up along the lines of "Neo-tribes": whether dealing with ethnicity-race, class, sexual orientation, religion, etc.

Again, this is as much an integral part of Multiculturalism as any race-mixing.

Some years ago, I even read a sociological study concerning the effects of Hip-Hop on interracial relations. The results? In some ways it has torn down barriers between Blacks and Whites, but at the same time set up new barriers.

It also admitted that most Whites listen to Hip-Hop for shallow reasons, like to learn the newest Usher dance moves, than out of some profound love of Black culture. And it noted that Blacks don't like whiggers, and see them as covert racists who "act Black" so as to mock what they feel is inferior. I myself have noticed this in one way or another, whiggers who openly talk negatively about Blacks.

The author also admitted that whether we like it or not, racist sentiments come to the fore one way or another. He noted one example of a white girl who dated an Arab man. His family didnt approve, so they had to keep the relationship a secret. The girl made some interesting remarks, namely that she regretted the fact that her parents never talked to her about race and how important it is to many people.

We're finding more and more of this kind of data popping up showing that living in a Multicultural society is not entirely all what it's cracked up to be.


The fact that white parents are adopting babies from China, Guatemala or South Korea who don't look like them reinforces the idea that race matters less.

On some levels perhaps, on other levels no.


So does the fact that interracial marriages, though still not common, have increased from less than 1% of U.S. marriages in 1970 to almost 6% of marriages in the 2000 Census.

Wow....a jump from 1% to 6%. Impressive!!! :rolleyes:

I already noted the interesting fact that the same 30 years where interracial marriages have increasesd is also the same 30 years where the divorce rate jumped dramatically - and that interracial marriages have a higher ratio of ending in divorce.

On a related note, they talk about how 60% of people have dated a person of another race. Great, except many studies have also shown that young people are having increasing problems concerning relationships. Again, interesting coincidence. Not to mention, after those kinds of relationships fail, many people harbor negative attitude towards the other's race. I've seen this personally.

Other studies have shown that overall this new Multicultural generation is basically in bad shape, particularly Jean M. Twenge's Generation Me: Why Today's Young Americans Are More Confident, Assertive, Entitled--and More Miserable Than Ever Before (http://www.amazon.com/Generation-Americans-Confident-Assertive-Entitled/dp/0743276973).

So again, there's always another side to the story. It's best to get the whole picture. What are we to really make of the big picture?

All in all, as I've said; Phora's members are as much a represenative of Multicultrual America as Mootstormfront's.

[chloeblossoms]

I don't think young whites are less race-aware, in general. I mean I have dated many whites who were obviously were dating me aware that I'm non-white, and they weren't liberal at all and they were certainly not color-blind. I think there's this perception amongst many of WN's that there's a generation of white youth who think there's a racial utopia out there and that commercials represent racial realities and that's why they're race-mixing. However, I just think race-mixing really very simply comes out of increased opportunities to race-mix. The very first person I ever dated was at college, white male from Utah from a conservative background who is still conservative despite the fact we attended a very liberal college. I think he is very conscious of race and is still very much so. So it simply comes back to opportunity, not that I'm trying to reduce or trivialize whatever bond we had.

[FAF]

In a 1980s New York area demographic study, for example, the results suggested that three-quarters of Jewish women who marry Gentiles planned to raise their children as Jews. [SILBERMAN, p. 303] Calvin Goldscheider notes that "usually the Jewish partner remains attached to the Jewish community and in many cases the partner not born Jewish becomes attached to the Jewish community through friends, family, neighbors, organizations, secular and religious. Most of the friends of the intermarried are Jewish; most support the state of Israel; most identify themselves as Jews." [GOLDSCHEIDER, p. 139] "In my experience," says social worker Edwin Freedman, "it is far more likely that when Jews and non-Jews marry it will generally be the non-Jewish partner who is influenced away from his or her origins.”

the coloured folks just don't get it.

the real racists, i mean the ones that have been seperate and exclusive and hateful before a single black slave was shipped to the united states of israel, before a single mexican was pistol whipped for stealing salt by a conquistador.....

are the jews

yes...the neo-cons, the hollwood directors, the guy in charge of the bank of america, the ones who control the democrats, the NAACP etc etc

wake up coloured people

you think it's honky

but you aren't a nigger, a beaner or a chink to these people

you are much worse

you are goyim

http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/15assim.htm

[President Barbicane]

I think these people are trying to have it all - colourblindness AND equality.

I see the two as contradictory.
Which do you prefer? Would you prefer that people be colorblind, or that people be equal?

I would prefer colorblind, although I somewhat feel that this is impossible. As long as inequalities exist, people are going to notice them.

Also, frankly I don't see blacks as being capable of overcoming these inequalities, so they will probably last a long time.

[raven]

I'll make a deal with the non-whites. I'll be colorblind when they start being colorblind. I'm sure that's NEVER going to happen. :D I'm not holding my breath.

[harjit]

I'll make a deal with the non-whites. I'll be colorblind when they start being colorblind. I'm sure that's NEVER going to happen. :D I'm not holding my breath.
You've mentioned this before, how non-whites despise whites.

Who are these hateful non-whites in Toronto anyway? Is this more prevalent in some ethnic groups than others? How widespread is it? Is it people you know?

[O'Zebedee]

Who are these hateful non-whites in Toronto anyway? Is this more prevalent in some ethnic groups than others? How widespread is it? Is it people you know?

Do you hate me, Harjit? Because of my pure Celtic background?

[harjit]

Do you hate me, Harjit? Because of my pure Celtic background?
Well, I suppose I should.

However the Irish do get called "niggers" around here by some people, so I'll cut you some slack Zeb. But try to do something about that Scots side, OK?

[Empress Cheesatine]

I've previously seen the USA Today publish dishonest articles that promote multiculturalist themes, to the point of even twisting reality to do so.

[Empress Cheesatine]

But try to do something about that Scots side, OK?

Who lives in huts in filthy squalor, pimps their 5 year olds in muddy roads and marries canines to dispel bad luck? Scots or..... ?

61.8 million slum dwellers... You go, Harjit! http://www.gnn.tv/headlines/14249/India_s_slum_population_doubles_in_20_years

[Geist]

However the Irish do get called "niggers" around here by some people, so I'll cut you some slack Zeb. But try to do something about that Scots side, OK?

Only because the Irish are also gangsta' terroristz with only a passing interest in immigration laws. This puts on Anglo's on edge considering the Saxon way of enjoying oneself involves turning the radio up to nine.*

On the colour blind thing its nonsense. As Boleslaw notes break the silence and it all pours out.

*One assumes they were of this particular racial grouping although Dizzee accepts no responsibility for his assumptions.

nigga plz!

[harjit]

Who lives in huts in filthy squalor, pimps their 5 year olds in muddy roads and marries canines to dispel bad luck? Scots or..... ?

61.8 million slum dwellers... You go, Harjit! http://www.gnn.tv/headlines/14249/India_s_slum_population_doubles_in_20_years

Wow, making fun of India is such an accomplishment. I guess your hobby is shooting goldfish in a bowl?

[Mackie]

I vote this thread stupid. That is all.
As for the original post (as in the article), somehow sounds like "they" are trying to make "it" sound better than it actually is, that being the situation.
Not that it should be better, in that sense.

[Starr]

As for the original post (as in the article), somehow sounds like "they" are trying to make "it" sound better than it actually is, that being the situation.



Of course they are. These articles are generally always written by people who approve and who view it as some kind of step in the right direction.

[Boleslaw]

On a related note, they talk about how 60% of people have dated a person of another race.

Returning to this line of thought:

The article claims that 60% of people have dated a person of another race. Yet later on in the same article noted that only 6% of all marriages are inter-racial. Hmmmn.....kinda of a wide disparity we see there don't you think? I mean what possible conclusion can one derive from such data?

Which proves my basic point; you really need to look at the big picture - something the media never does when addressing these issues.

[Boleslaw]

Of course they are. These articles are generally always written by people who approve and who view it as some kind of step in the right direction.

Well of course they always try to give off that impression. But scratch the surface, and you find their case is nothing but hollow.

[FAF]

sorry here are some interesting links as regards non-western (ie coloureds) view of marriage...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,524630,00.html

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,525216,00.html

don't cast pearls amongst swine

for more info www.stormfront.org

[FAF]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20071226/tpl-uk-india-church-clashes-9e08e31_4.html

yes not in Toronto admittedly but why oh why is the Indian subcontinent tarnished with sectarian violence?????

BHUBANESWAR, India (Reuters) - Hundreds of federal police were deployed in India's eastern state of Orissa on Wednesday after Hindu hardliners burnt and damaged 14 churches, killing at least one person, police said.

(Advertisement)
Christians also damaged at least three Hindu temples during communal clashes, a local Hindu group said.

The reported injury of a local Hindu leader by a Christian group on Monday sparked two days of violence over Christmas in the Kandhamal district of southern Orissa. Hardliners also accuse Christian groups of converting low-caste Hindus.

A senior Christian leader said state authorities had turned a blind eye to the violence. He compared the situation to that in Gujarat state, where a BJP-led government has been accused of inciting violence against Muslim and Christian minority communities.

"I feel the government has allowed them to continue this sort of thing somehow, because I am afraid they are repeating what happened in Gujarat in the last two to three years," Raphael Cheenath, Archbishop of Bhubaneswar, the provincial capital, told local television.

B. Barik, a local Hindu organisation leader, said at least three Hindu temples had been damaged in the clashes. Police said they could not confirm this.

Orissa, now governed by a BJP ally, has been the scene of some of the worst attacks on Christians, including the 1999 murders of Australian missionary Graham Staines and his two children who were burned to death inside their car by a mob.
Christian groups say lower-caste Hindus who convert do so willingly to escape the highly stratified and oppressive Hindu caste system.

Several BJP-ruled states have passed anti-conversion laws. Christians account for around 2 percent of mainly Hindu India's 1.1 billion people.

Sihks, cow worshippers or mad mullahs.......take your pick

[Empress Cheesatine]

Being in the age area of said generation, they don't blink they sneer. Maybe not openly, do to social created pressure from above but the instinct is still there.

Good for them and good for you. It is social pressure from above - specifically the cultural Marxist elitists who essentially form the cultural establishment in this country but deny they do so. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that most white race mixers are fat and/or low class. Cultural elitists want us to mix with low-class ghetto filth.

If a white person wants a good spouse and a good parent for their children, they'd be stupid and asking for trouble to date outside the race. Statistics speak for themselves. I can't count how many single white baby's mamas I've seen around downtown Denver pushing strollers with their little ebony/mestizo monstrosities in them with no father in sight.

[FAF]

If a white person wants a good spouse and a good parent for their children, they'd be stupid and asking for trouble to date outside the race. Statistics speak for themselves. I can't count how many single white baby's mamas I've seen around downtown Denver pushing strollers with their little ebony/mestizo monstrosities in them with no father in sight.

And it's the same in dowtown England/London/Birmingham etc

i always laugh because you never see the father beside the pram full of screaming mixed raced kids.....maybe we should give the mother a medal.

Something along the lines of a yellow star.

[chloeblossoms]

If a white person wants a good spouse and a good parent for their children, they'd be stupid and asking for trouble to date outside the race.

Well I'm glad my boyfriend doesn't share your views, unless you think he'd be better off with any Marxist, promiscuous, third-wave feminist social degenerate simply because she's white. :)

[Empress Cheesatine]

Well I'm glad my boyfriend doesn't share your views, unless you think he'd be better off with any Marxist, promiscuous, third-wave feminist social degenerate simply because she's white. :)

Nah, he just has a high-toned, bourgeoisie negress who tries to act white by straightening her hair and speaking King's English. Those types commonly try to "act white" and fit in.

[chloeblossoms]

Nah, he just has a high-toned, bourgeoisie negress who tries to act white by straightening her hair and speaking King's English. Those types commonly try to "act white" and fit in.

It's remarkably funny that you refer to me as "bourgeoisie", but it's very indicative of how brainwashed you are. But I am loving the irony of you pointing out society's brainwashing (which is to a great extent, true), then revealing that your mind is even more profoundly fogged by group think than the average American (a great feat, indeed).

[FAF]

It's remarkably funny that you refer to me as "bourgeoisie", but it's very indicative of how brainwashed you are. But I am loving the irony of you pointing out society's brainwashing (which is to a great extent, true), then revealing that your mind is even more profoundly fogged by group think than the average American (a great feat, indeed).

Well one of you is in love with the other but it's kind of hard to tell who exactly as wimmen are prone to gettin' the last word in and everything.

I simply lurve n.american latinos...all the attitude of africa and a little bit of a chip on the shoulder from the aztecs. and now they live amongst you...

and you thought the NAACP were a nitemare and speedy gonzales was light relief..................oh boy........

[chloeblossoms]

Well one of you is in love with the other but it's kind of hard to tell who exactly as wimmen are prone to gettin' the last word in and everything.

I simply lurve n.american latinos...all the attitude of africa and a little bit of a chip on the shoulder from the aztecs. and now they live amongst you...

and you thought the NAACP were a nitemare and speedy gonzales was light relief..................oh boy........

I am having trouble deciphering this.

[Starr]

Being in the age area of said generation, they don't blink they sneer. Maybe not openly, do to social created pressure from above but the instinct is still there.

.


I started a thread not too long ago about the cues my friend's cousin has picked up on when in public with her white son and her son's mixed friend.

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=31691&highlight=blind

I will repost the most important part of what I was talking about here:

My friend called me today and told me a story about her cousin. Her cousin has a child(white boy around 8)who is friends with a mixed(black and white) boy, around his same age. The mixed boy often comes to her house and sometimes she will take the kids out, together to a public place. Lately, she told my friend, she has been feeling a need to mention something here and there when in public to the mixed boy about his mother, so people will not assume the kid is hers. The reason for this apparently is that when she is out in public with the kid, people, especially older white couples and younger white males give her really, really bad looks. They don't openly say anything, but she said the looks are unmistakable and she only gets them when this kid is with her.

[FAF]

Just take care during your interracial threesome. Your nine inches could penetrate the Chinese chick like a shish kebab.

that's so racist

now we all know why you live in Japan

so your carrot can look bigger in small hands

travelling ona Canadian passport....all the advantages of N.American living and then you get to say "i am not american".

i really gotta know...what caste are you?
are you wheatish brown? or kind of pale? do you wear glasses?
will you change your username to Ghandi??

[Empress Cheesatine]

It's remarkably funny that you refer to me as "bourgeoisie", but it's very indicative of how brainwashed you are. But I am loving the irony of you pointing out society's brainwashing (which is to a great extent, true), then revealing that your mind is even more profoundly fogged by group think than the average American (a great feat, indeed).

That's what blacks call blacks like yourself. Keep straightening that hair, but you'll never be white.

[Empress Cheesatine]

Just take care during your interracial threesome. Your nine inches could penetrate the Chinese chick like a shish kebab.

Yes, we have heard how you Asians have small genitalia. Must be a bitch.

[chloeblossoms]

That's what blacks call blacks like yourself. Keep straightening that hair, but you'll never be white.

Cheesypie, I'm sure you could do better than that, you didn't even put forth half an effort. (And coincidentally, or perhaps not, I notice only in arguments with WN women do they ever contend that you wish you were white...in fact that seems to be their natural progression. Maybe I should delve into the psychology of this). You don't know anything about "blacks like myself", because I'm sure if you were to guess anything my background you'd be entirely wrong, but that's a consequence of having your head completely immersed in an alternate universe.

[Empress Cheesatine]

Cheesypie, I'm sure you could do better than that, you didn't even put forth half an effort. (And coincidentally, or perhaps not, I notice only in arguments with WN women do they ever contend that you wish you were white...in fact that seems to be their natural progression. Maybe I should delve into the psychology of this). You don't know anything about "blacks like myself", because I'm sure if you were to guess anything my background you'd be entirely wrong, but that's a consequence of having your head completely immersed in an alternate universe.

Its observation, patterns of human behavior. You may not consciously wish you were white at all, but the behaviors often contradict the consciousness.

[harjit]

Cheesypie, I'm sure you could do better than that, you didn't even put forth half an effort. (And coincidentally, or perhaps not, I notice only in arguments with WN women do they ever contend that you wish you were white...in fact that seems to be their natural progression. Maybe I should delve into the psychology of this). You don't know anything about "blacks like myself", because I'm sure if you were to guess anything my background you'd be entirely wrong, but that's a consequence of having your head completely immersed in an alternate universe.
I suggest you stop broaching Cheesypie seriously. It is futile to discuss anything with an ignoramus who believes they know you better than you know yourself.

[chloeblossoms]

I suggest you stop broaching Cheesypie seriously. It is futile to discuss anything with an ignoramus who believes they know you better than you know yourself.

Sure. But at least I wish I could make her try harder/expound further to make my job easier.

[Jake Featherston]

now we all know why you live in Japan

so your carrot can look bigger in small hands?

I've always assumed that was part of the reason so many White and Black men seem to dig East Asian women ie., a tight fit. It also helps explain the relative lack of interest among White & Black women for East Asian men....

[Empress Cheesatine]

I suggest you stop broaching Cheesypie seriously. It is futile to discuss anything with an ignoramus who believes they know you better than you know yourself.

One prominent way humans vote is with their feet. That alone speaks volumes.

[raven]

that's so racist

now we all know why you live in Japan

so your carrot can look bigger in small hands

travelling ona Canadian passport....all the advantages of N.American living and then you get to say "i am not american".

i really gotta know...what caste are you?
are you wheatish brown? or kind of pale? do you wear glasses?
will you change your username to Ghandi??Heh, do we really need to get into the dick size stereotypes? What difference is there between whites mocking the supposed small genitalia of asians and blacks mocking the supposed smaller genitalia of whites? Do we really need to sink down to the level of the Niggaz? :rofl: Niggaz boast about their supposed long Johnsons because they are insecure about their masculinity. They can't support a family, they aren't there for their children and often abandon them, are poor father figures, poor husbands (hence why I don't blame black women as much as white women for inter-racial dating/mixing. Both mixing is wrong but I have a lot more sympathy for the circumstances of the black woman), etc. All these factors contribute to black men feeling insecure about their masculinity and they have to project themselves as being "hard", tough, promiscous, violent and having big cocks in order to feel like men. They have no real power in society (unlike the Jews, the buck nigger protoype is just a puppet), that's why they compensate with their posturing.

2,000th post. Yay.

[Starr]

Heh, do we really need to get into the dick size stereotypes? What difference is there between whites mocking the supposed small genitalia of asians and blacks mocking the supposed smaller genitalia of whites? Do we really need to sink down to the level of the Niggaz? Niggaz boast about their supposed long Johnsons because they are insecure about their masculinity. They can't support a family, they aren't there for their children and often abandon them, are poor father figures, poor husbands (hence why I don't blame black women as much as white women for inter-racial dating/mixing. Both mixing is wrong but I have a lot more sympathy for the circumstances of the black woman), etc. All these factors contribute to black men feeling insecure about their masculinity and they have to project themselves as being "hard", tough, promiscous, violent and having big cocks in order to feel like men. They have no real power in society (unlike the Jews, the buck nigger protoype is just a puppet), that's why they compensate with their posturing.

This sounds plausible enough, but for the most part I would disagree. For negroes to feel insecure because of their lack of husband or fathering skills, they would have to view those things in the same important way that white males, for example do. It seems masculinity for black men(at least the younger ones)is tied up not in being a good father figure and role model to their children or in being a good provider and protector for their wives, but more in how many different women they can impregnate and the number of children they can have. This goes all the way back, of course to how their ancestors lived in Africa. Having no real power in society and also being a member of a race that can't boast of much in the way of real accomplishments might come into play, though yes. This penis size myth or reality is one of the only things they have. Negroes are also just by their nature more obsessed with these things than other males(though other males are pretty obsessed with it also :p )

[Eisenhans]

I'm part of that generation, yet I always "blink" at interracial bullcrap.

Outside I smile, but inside I'm screaming "race traitor."

[Boleslaw]

Am I the only person who notices that it's usually Baby-boomers who take this "racism" BS seriously?

[Empress Cheesatine]

I'm part of that generation, yet I always "blink" at interracial bullcrap.

Outside I smile, but inside I'm screaming "race traitor."

Don't smile. Glare at them and their date. It sometimes hits home and you can see the shame come across their stupid faces.

[Empress Cheesatine]

I'll make a deal with the non-whites. I'll be colorblind when they start being colorblind. I'm sure that's NEVER going to happen. :D I'm not holding my breath.

Colorblindness is a one-way street, has always been, will always be.

[Northern_Paladin]

Mulatto babies make me want to puke in their faces. And mess up their nappy little Fros!

[raven]

Colorblindness is a one-way street, has always been, will always be.Exactly

You've mentioned this before, how non-whites despise whites.

Who are these hateful non-whites in Toronto anyway? Is this more prevalent in some ethnic groups than others? How widespread is it? Is it people you know?It's difficult to go through one week or even a few days with seeing hostility towards "white people" (read: people of Euroepan descent) in our modern society. If anyone has ever attended a University/College in the modern era, they'd see that it's always "privileged white people" this, "privileged white males" that, white people are evil, they are racist, etc. I don't doubt that there are whites in power (Jews included) who partake in some sort of institutionalized racism against minorities. But guess what, I'm not one of those white elite so minorities and liberals need to stop fucking lumping all white people into one homogenous group of evil! Just because minorities may face some racism in their lives doesn't mean that we, as people of European descent, need to be subjected to institutionalized racism ourselves (ie. affirmative action, being told that we should be guilty for our skin color in indoctrination centres called campuses, that people of european descent are so evil, etc. among many other things).

Let's also not forget the racial group identity politics that pervades in our society. Racial groups advocating for things to their benefit at the expense of the so-called "privileged whites" (once again, just because the elites are predominately white/jewish doesn't mean that my skin color makes me apart of the elite too). I've even seen race traitor minorities on the internet and in real life talk about white people as if they are an evil race and gloat about the possibility of sterilizing white males, forcefully breeding white women with blacks and breeding out the white race (read: all of ethnic European kind) even though their partner is white. It's wonderful how minority victimologists give lip service to color-blindless only when it's on their terms. Color-blindness is a one-way street.

Let's also not forget hate speech laws, which are used to target people of european descent when they say anything that is a tad unPC. How can a person of European descent not feel like a prisoner in their own country when they have to put up with all this shit? There is a lot of hostility towards us. Minorities openly gloat about the possibility of "taking over from the white man" in the nations we live in and exacting "payback" for past slavery (even though our generation had no involvement in that). How can racism not be a natural reaction when you have to put up with these hostile messages? We've seen what happened to the whites in South Africa, Zimbabwe and other places in Africa. That's exactly where our society is heading if the minority race card players had their way. I have no wish to control over minorities (hence my support for voluntary segregation) but they have this desire to want to tread on me.

Humans are naturally going to be hostile when they feel that they and their kinship group are endangered and that's where racism becomes evolutionarily adaptive. Animals (and yes we are animals) who don't feel a sense of urgency, get eaten by predators. Natural selection is going to remove people of European descent if they don't have the sense of urgency to protect their kin. It's fight or flight. Or else we'll end up like the white prey in South Africa and Zimbabwe, mutilated, raped and killed simply because we are native to Europe and have less melanin than Negroes. The white/Jewish elite can weather the storm (just as they did in South Africa/Zimbabwe... remember the white farmers killed were mostly ordinary folk) since they have the money and privilege to do whatever the fuck they want but the middle-class and working-class whites will be eaten alive in the west if we don't wake up.

[Flint Steel]

Are the white people in the article jews by any chance?

oh this one


Rebecca Bigler, 42, a psychology professor who directs the Gender and Racial Attitudes Lab at the University of Texas-Austin, traces such attitudes to baby boomer parents who may have set a tone for raising colorblind kids.

"It makes us feel racist if we acknowledge race, so we try not to, and we end up being color-mute," she says. "Children learn from their parents that you don't talk about race."

Bigler is white. Her former husband, the father of her teenage son, is black. People talked about race when she was a child in the '70s, she says, but now the younger generation — especially white kids — believe that racial injustice is "a thing of the past."

[Arminius]

I can't say that I really care. It is individual choice. My choice would be not to marry a black girl, but that is just preference.

Outside I smile, but inside I'm screaming "race traitor."

My reply to this is here (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=501365&postcount=4).