The Inferiority of Europeans

[Ixtab]

Europeans are, as a race, simply too compassionate compared with the rest of the world - one can't be too sure whether it is a genetic or cultural trait, though I strongly suspect the former possibility. That is their weakness, not their strength. I am no supremacist: It is our grave misfortune to be bestowed with Conscience, and to feel it strongly, so unlike the rest of the world. We are definitely inferior to the rest of the world in this very important regard.

[Slavic Enforcer]

You are inferior, you a**hole!

[A. Radek]

Europeans are, as a race, simply too compassionate compared with the rest of the world - one can't be too sure whether it is a genetic or cultural trait, though I strongly suspect the former possibility. That is their weakness, not their strength. I am no supremacist: It is our grave misfortune to be bestowed with a Consience, and to feel it strongly, so unlike the rest of the world. We are definitely inferior to the rest of the world in this very important regard.

What do you base this on?

I've travelled a little, to some very untouristy spots, and haven't found any big discrepancies in general behavior. At a personal level, the rudest, unfriendly places tend to be European countries, Japan, Taiwan, etc., i.e. the developed countries. Yes, this a 'generalization', but so is your statement until you get more specific about what you mean.

[Ixtab]

I am going by personal observation here as well.

[Atlas]

If the white race really was superior to the Jews then surely it would be us that owned the worlds banks and the media ?
If the white race was really superior to the chinks and the gooks we would be manufacturing the worlds electronics.
If the white race was superior to the japs we would be designing and manufacturing the worlds cars.

[sugartits]

Europeans are, as a race, simply too compassionate compared with the rest of the world - one can't be too sure whether it is a genetic or cultural trait, though I strongly suspect the former possibility. That is their weakness, not their strength. I am no supremacist: It is our grave misfortune to be bestowed with a Consience, and to feel it strongly, so unlike the rest of the world. We are definitely inferior to the rest of the world in this very important regard.

Europeans were very compassionate during both world wars. Dropping nukes on hiroshimi and nagasaki was very compassionate.

The GULAGs were the epitome of compassion.

The Medieval Torture Museum
http://www.corkscrew-balloon.com/misc/torture/

[sugartits]

The Saw
The Medieval Torture Museum
San Gimignano, Italy

This instrument had widespread diffusion all over Europe. The saw was inflicted for a great variety of crimes (rebellion, witchcraft, military disobedience), probably owing to its being easily found in all houses so enabling a quick execution.

As we can see from a series of printings and engravings of that period, the victim was hung in an inverted position in order to assure sufficient oxygenation of the brain and to slow down the general loss of blood so that he didn't lose consciousness at once, thus to inflict a longer suffering before death struck.

http://www.corkscrew-balloon.com/misc/torture/25.html

[Felix the Cat]

http://www.corkscrew-balloon.com/misc/torture/25.html
http://www.corkscrew-balloon.com/misc/torture/25b.jpg

The guy on the right seems to be enjoying himself

[Ixtab]

Please stop spamming my thread with pasted material. We already know about this. It doesn't refute anything.

[il ragno]

When people of white Euro ancestry "ruthlessly self-examine" themselves - and find the results wanting - they are merely doing Hymie's work for him.

Traditional competitors or enemies of whites - Asians and Arabs - never have, and never will, attempt to convince us that we're guilty of some monstrous crime against humanity merely for warring/competing with them; not because such sneaky Bernaysian psych-ops are beyond their intellectual capabilities, but because such Jew panther-games are largely alien to them. But convincing the white gentile European that something intrinsic in his nature (cough *Christianity* cough) is diseased and evil at the root has been the Golden Road to Riches and Influence (and domination) for khazar Jews for over a century now! And there is no way the dividends of that strategy could have ever been so consistently lucrative had not the white European been gifted with the innate qualities of conscience and mercy. But Bregowald is only half-right.

We're better than them, and we always were. But if we continue to despise ourselves for that which makes us better than them, we will become them. And then the ballgame will truly be over.

[Slavic Enforcer]

http://www.corkscrew-balloon.com/misc/torture/25b.jpg

The guy on the right seems to be enjoying himself

:rofl:

Very Christian behaviour.. :rolleyes:
(sarcasm)

[Thomas777]

When people of white Euro ancestry "ruthlessly self-examine" themselves - and find the results wanting - they are merely doing Hymie's work for him.

Traditional competitors or enemies of whites - Asians and Arabs - never have, and never will, attempt to convince us that we're guilty of some monstrous crime against humanity merely for warring/competing with them; not because such sneaky Bernaysian psych-ops are beyond their intellectual capabilities, but because such Jew panther-games are largely alien to them. But convincing the white gentile European that something intrinsic in his nature (cough *Christianity* cough) is diseased and evil at the root has been the Golden Road to Riches and Influence (and domination) for khazar Jews for over a century now! And there is no way the dividends of that strategy could have ever been so consistently lucrative had not the white European been gifted with the innate qualities of conscience and mercy. But Bregowald is only half-right.

We're better than them, and we always were. But if we continue to despise ourselves for that which makes us better than them, we will become them. And then the ballgame will truly be over.

What you posted here is probably the most edudite summation of Jewish culture distortion that I have seen in some time.

[Felix the Cat]

There's nothing "compassionate" about importing coolie labour to drive down wages among your working class

And charity is only appreciated when it's given between social equals. When rich Westerners give to the poor of Africa or Asia, it's usually seen either as an arrogant display of social superiority, or as a fear-driven act of tribute. Either way, recipients are more likely to feel resentment or contempt than gratitude

[A. Radek]

All true. Good post, cowcube.

[A. Radek]

There's nothing "compassionate" about importing coolie labour to drive down wages among your working class

And this is why the KKK, most WN's, and most especially white supremacists should be regarded with nothing but utter contempt, as they almost invariably supported, facilitated, and profited off this, and still do today. They aren't to be taken seriously as 'defenders' of white anything, just gangster wannabees.

[Fade the Butcher]

And this is why the KKK, most WN's, and most especially white supremacists should be regarded with nothing but utter contempt, as they almost invariably supported, facilitated, and profited off this, and still do today. They aren't to be taken seriously as 'defenders' of white anything, just gangster wannabees.You are stretching the truth, Oberon. The 'free soil' movement, for example, was driven by white racists who wanted to keep black slaves out of the territories. The annexation of the Dominican Republic, the Phillippines, Hawaii, Cuba, Puerto Rico and several other territories in Latin America and the Pacific was opposed by white racists in Congress. The Platt Amendment was a response to such racial concerns. There was also a movement to annex all of Mexico after the Mexican War, but this was defeated by white racists in Congress and the U.S. ultimately annexed only relatively unpopulated territories. The antislavery movement was supported mostly by white racists who wanted to rid America of blacks. Similiarly, white racist concerns about Chinese coolie labor competing with white labor in the West prompted the federalization of immigration law and prompted a whole series of restrictionist immigration acts.

[A. Radek]

There is just a tad more to it than that. And, in any case those were only occassional attempts and half-hearted at best, usually done to appease white labor movements when they infrequently had some influence on politics, and quickly forgotten and back to business as usual when they didn't, merely substituting Mexicans or Irish or Germans, or in the later 19th century eastern Europeans.

I would have preferred Ben Franklin's solutions to the problems, as the most reasonable, along with a British Crown embargo against slave imports and the passing of slavery on to the children of slaves. By the time of Lincoln and his pandering to the remains of the Whigs, that was all way too late and it would have merely cruel to simply ship everybody back where they came from; even Jefferson Davis and Bedford Forrest recognized the problem was irreversible by the time of the Civil War, as did many Southerners who would have gladly freed their slaves if they had had some alternative to merely starving to death or being unfairly shipped back overseas. Most knew then that Lincoln was unrealistic and profoundly stupid then, just as such a policy is today.

The KKK for one was merely a gang of thugs in the 1920's, used by such companies as U.S. Steel in Atlanta and textile mill owners to bust up union organizing and strikes, despite all the BS rhetoric about 'white pride' and the funny hats. They also played a major part in intimidating agents from Northern factories in the Midwest recruiting Southern blacks to move North and work there, so they have a big role in keeping blacks down South and cowed, a very cheap and easily cheated labor source with no access to the law, also as tenant farmers for the big landowners. The white supremacists just didn't want them leave at all, which blows holes in the BS the KKK puts out. It was a no no to run ads in Southern papers advertising jobs up North for blacks. This also hwlped keep white wages low of course; nobody wants to pay a fair market price for labor when they can hire 'white supremacists' to see to it that they don't have to.

[Leif]

Europeans are, as a race, simply too compassionate compared with the rest of the world - one can't be too sure whether it is a genetic or cultural trait, though I strongly suspect the former possibility. That is their weakness, not their strength. I am no supremacist: It is our grave misfortune to be bestowed with Conscience, and to feel it strongly, so unlike the rest of the world. We are definitely inferior to the rest of the world in this very important regard.

Mr. Yi agrees on a basic social level in contemporary Western society. As others have demonstrated, this was not always so. Todays society has largely become pacified to the necessary utilization of force, and when force is employed, it is thought of as a game. (The "ride of the valkyries" scene of Apocalypse Now, followed by "surfing," comes to mind.)ƏůǼǛ

[The Retard]

If the white race really was superior to the Jews then surely it would be us that owned the worlds banks and the media ?
If the white race was really superior to the chinks and the gooks we would be manufacturing the worlds electronics.
If the white race was superior to the japs we would be designing and manufacturing the worlds cars.

The American Dream: accumulate as many dollars as you can and everything will be fine.

All the big shots care about are the dollar signs. I have a friend right now living in Hong Kong; his furniture manufacturing plant is somewhere in China(not sure on the details), he married a Chinese woman and could careless about his Swede ancestry. Anyway, he knows he can make things cheap in China and sell high in America. He doesn't care about his own, he only cares about himself, that to me is a sign of inferiority or superiority if you look at in terms of the individual.

[Faustian Dreams]

Europeans are, as a race, simply too compassionate compared with the rest of the world - one can't be too sure whether it is a genetic or cultural trait, though I strongly suspect the former possibility. That is their weakness, not their strength. I am no supremacist: It is our grave misfortune to be bestowed with Conscience, and to feel it strongly, so unlike the rest of the world. We are definitely inferior to the rest of the world in this very important regard.

We must be careful in making such broad, sweeping statements. It would be appropriate to qualify this claim.

Most people I encounter are solipsistic, curmudgeonly, and lacking in intellectual prowess. I am not sure if all of these qualities are part of man's inherent nature, but in approaching this from a purely biological perspective, this is the "perfect man" when perfection concerns merely survival and progeneration. There is no room for abstract thought or universal compassion in such matters.

This leads to the question of "How is it that the White Man came to be as we see Him today?" (I am not partial to generalizing to the point of absurdity, but for the sake of adhering to the phrasing of the clause, I will acknowledge it.) The answer is quite straightforward if one notes the restructuring of power systems over the past two millenia.

At the beginning of the Common Era, and the thousands of years prior, societies consisted--and subsisted--of and on small-scale agricultural communities. Many historical records show this, yet there has always been an emphasis on the grand cities which emerged here and there. However, just as a cell which absorbs water in greater quantity than it can contain, a city too large collapsed under its own weight and the strain it placed on the surrounding pastoral and agricultural communities. It was here, perhaps, that economics last displayed a natural ethos which supported intra-societal solidarity. Unfortunately, economic theory was not yet extant--the paradigm would shift long before the concept of preservation and continuity would make its appearance; during this period time was seen as something cyclical and thus perhaps irrelevant.

To be sure, ethnic mixing had already emerged, and with the various empires there would be assimilation here and there. Whether one chooses to include this in surmising the downfall of civilizations is up to their own judgment.

Europe is interesting in that it was home to such a diverse group of ethnicities in a relatively small landmass. And, as Europe is such a small continent, the surge of invasions would lead to changes which, admittedly, I have little knowledge of. From what I have read, groups such as the Celts (who, contrary to popular belief, originated in central Europe--my source is "History of Pagan Europe" by Jones and Pennick), Goths, Visigoths, Galls, Huns, and "finally" the Romans proceeded to conquer large pieces of Europe with varying degrees of impression. ("Finally" denotes their lasting influence, namely the Latin language, which proceeded to become the language of the elites, the learned, etc. And, as language greatly influences how one perceives and is able to perceive the world, the influence is immanent.)

Piggybacking on Roman influence came Christianity, which displayed ideals quite contradictory to any that have existed in Europe prior:
-Charity
-Notions of sin (sin and guilt were meaningless concepts)
-Heresy
-Prayer for the dead (as opposed to prayer to the dead)
(from "History of Pagan Europe")

I say piggybacking because although Christianity began as a religion transmitted through the Aramaic language, Latin soon became its universal carrier. It probably wasn't until Constantine's conversion that the religion really took off; the Roman Empire became the Byzantine Empire, and this saw the crusade of conversion of European nobility. For example, the Hungarians were Christianized at the very end of the 10th century, and it wasn't even until this time that there was a unified, politically defined Hungary. My own last name, which is Christian, serves as testament to the way in which Christianity bore its influence; from the top down, contrary to its apparent appeal to the lower classes. In short, the Christian sentiment was impressed upon the masses as a political tool (as many religions quickly become), and, in their apathy and indifference, the common man accepted it and blended it with their own folk traditions and rituals. It made no difference in particular, it was a different form of worship of what they may have known to be the same "God," a notion which the most inbred of nobles didn't comprehend. So Christianity became the norm.

Similarly, I believe that the common man only cares for himself, and would much rather be left to his own devices, but with the gross inversion of ideals, and as liberal thinkers elbowed their way into influence, an appeal to base and queer behavior emerged.

I would have liked to include some speculations on the changes in philosophy and the secularization of what became a Christian form of "humanism" with the Reformation by Martin Luther (which futher abstracted the sense of the sacred from a very much European Roman Catholicism), but I've got to go to class soon. :(

In Summary: Secular Humanism is progressive Christian ideals without the context that would logically necessitate its existence. The People have a new God. The Proles don't care. Something is awry.

[il ragno]

I have a friend right now living in Hong Kong; his furniture manufacturing plant is somewhere in China(not sure on the details), he married a Chinese woman and could careless about his Swede ancestry. Anyway, he knows he can make things cheap in China and sell high in America. He doesn't care about his own, he only cares about himself, that to me is a sign of inferiority or superiority if you look at in terms of the individual.

"He who dies with the most toys wins". The central credo of the Judeo-American Dream.

Is that all life is? Plasma-screen tvs and fully-loaded SUVs? Stock your hideyhole with all the luxuries you can and for God's sake watch what you say when you're out of doors? Learn to make your mouth curl downward in disgust when uttering the word 'racist', but keep the FOR SALE signs handy in case niggers and mestizos begin showing up on your street?

This is the way the white race ends: not with a bang, but with a slim-line, gold-embossed, high-definition whimper.

[Basil Fawlty]

Piggybacking on Roman influence came Christianity, which displayed ideals quite contradictory to any that have existed in Europe prior:
-Charity
-Notions of sin (sin and guilt were meaningless concepts)
-Heresy
-Prayer for the dead (as opposed to prayer to the dead)
(from "History of Pagan Europe")Just one critical point if I may. Heresy and prayers for the dead I agree. But charity and sin/guilt is a biot more ambiguous.

Within Greek culture there was a strong obligation towards hospitality (which pops up amongst many of the IE peoples), for the Greeks it appears as the phenomenon of theoxeny. The belief that Zeus sometimes travels as a stranger to test the generosity of people. Therefore it was considered impious to abuse or withhold hosiptality from travellers and strangers.

On the question of sin and guilt. There was for the Greeks hamartia (which the Christians then take up as the term for sin but which means a culpable error or fault. Then there is miasma which is the guilt incurred by murder for instance. Miasma can only be discharged through compensation and riutual purification rites.

There is an insteresting story told by the 6th century AD historian Zosimus (described by historians as "a militant pagan" in a time when being a pagan could be fatal) concerning the conversion of Constantine.

For he put to death his son Crispus, stiled (as I mentioned) Caesar, on suspicion of debauching his mother-in-law Fausta, without any regard to the ties of nature. And when his own mother Helena expressed much sorrow for this atrocity, lamenting the young man's death with great bitterness, Constantine under pretence of comforting her, applied a remedy worse than the disease. For causing a bath to be heated to an extraordinary degree, he shut up Fausta in it, and a short time after took her out dead. Of which his conscience accusing him, as also of violating his oath, he went to the priests to be purified from his crimes. But they told him, that there was no kind of lustration that was sufficient to clear him of such enormities. A Spaniard, named Aegyptius, very familiar with the court-ladies, being at Rome, happened to fall into converse with Constantine, and assured him, that the Christian doctrine would teach him how to cleanse himself from all his offences, and that they who received it were immediately absolved from all their sins. Constantine had no sooner heard this than he easily believed what was told him, and forsaking the rites of his country, received those which Aegyptius offered him ; and for the first instance of his impiety, suspected the truth of divination.
http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/zosimus02_book2.htmWhatever about the historicity of this story one way or the other it shows troubled conscience and guilt, a need for purification and atonement, and an unwillingness of the pagan priests to facilitate this. Thus he turned to Christianity and the rest is, as they say, history.


Zosimus makes further criticism of Christianity on account of the facility by which it eases the conscience of wicked men.

[Fade the Butcher]

There is just a tad more to it than that. And, in any case those were only occassional attempts and half-hearted at best, usually done to appease white labor movements when they infrequently had some influence on politics, and quickly forgotten and back to business as usual when they didn't, merely substituting Mexicans or Irish or Germans, or in the later 19th century eastern Europeans.I'm not sure if I am getting your point here. Racialism long acted as a brake on American imperialism. Such concerns were neither occasional or half-hearted either. They were often successful and decisively shaped the course of American history. The best example of this is how racialism acted as the single most important barrier to American territorial expansion: the failure to annex all of Mexico after the Mexican War, the failure to annex Nicaragua after its conquest by William Walker, the failure to annex the Dominican Republic during the Grant administration, the failure to annex Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the Phillippines after the Spanish-American War. The one exception was Hawaii (because its annexation was deemed essential to commercial and strategic interests in East Asia), but even in that case, opposition to the annexation of Hawaii was led by racialists in Congress.

In each case, it was concern about the racial inferiority of the conquered populations that stiffled and/or inhibited attempts to incorporate these territories directly into the United States. The presence of millions of Negroes in America was already seen as enough of a burden and was cited again and again in Congressional debates. The mestizo nations of Central America largely owe their independence today to nineteenth century American racialism. The United States could easily have annexed the weak nations of this region had Americans been inclined to do so. This attitude persisted right up until the Second World War when FDR refused to annex British possessions in the Caribbean in exchange for material aid to fight the Nazis. We acquired long term leases on British bases instead, as FDR thought the inhabitants of such islands were too inferior to ever be made into Americans.

Racial concerns were just as influential in domestic policy as well. Oklahoma was for years something of a racial dumping ground for Indian tribes forced out of the Southeast by the Indian Removal Acts. The antislavery movement in America was from its inception motivated more by racism against blacks than by humanitarian concerns. The Wilmot Proviso was sold as "The White Man's Resolution." The whole dispute about bringing black slaves into the territories that sparked the Civil War was a part of Republican effort to placate working class racists in the Midwest. Various schemes were concocted to rid America of blacks or at the very least restrict their movement. The short lived colony in Liberia is one example. The residency laws passed by various northern states is another. The immigration restriction acts that kept out Asian laborers is another still. I could go on and on. The examples are endless. You mention the white labor movement, but the labor movement drew upon racialist themes and resources to fight Chinese and Japanese immigration.I would have preferred Ben Franklin's solutions to the problems, as the most reasonable, along with a British Crown embargo against slave imports and the passing of slavery on to the children of slaves.I favor the ideas of Jefferson and Madison on the issue: ridding America of its black population is an eminently reasonable idea, as blacks will forever be a burden for this country.By the time of Lincoln and his pandering to the remains of the Whigs, that was all way too late and it would have merely cruel to simply ship everybody back where they came from; even Jefferson Davis and Bedford Forrest recognized the problem was irreversible by the time of the Civil War, as did many Southerners who would have gladly freed their slaves if they had had some alternative to merely starving to death or being unfairly shipped back overseas. You are mischaracterizing the Confederate position on the issue. Davis was not of the view that blacks should be freed and integrated into America as equal citizens. The Confederacy, on the contrary, envisioned a future in which the South would gradually rid itself of its Negro population by way of expansion into Latin America and the Caribbean. Slaves would be sold further and further south until they were beyond American territory altogether. This was an entirely reasonable scenario, as the north had almost entirely rid itself of its black population in just this manner, and the states of the upper south were already doing so.Most knew then that Lincoln was unrealistic and profoundly stupid then, just as such a policy is today.Lincoln eventually gave up hope on the idea of shipping blacks overseas. This doesn't mean he abandoned the idea of ridding America of blacks, though. He later developed an alternative plan in which blacks would be transported to South Texas and pushed from there either into Mexico or the Southwest territories.

Note: I don't have much to say about the second KKK. It wasn't really even a racialist organization and was more concerned with anti-Catholicism and restricting European immigration than anything else.

[Excorcism]

I personally think that people in Europe, from an outside observer's standpoint, may be too afraid to show signs of pride in one's ancestry or nation out of fear of going back into the era of WWI and WWII.

[Jonathan]

Europeans are, as a race, simply too compassionate compared with the rest of the world.
I think this is only a recent development brought about by affluence.

[Basil Fawlty]

I think this is only a recent development brought about by affluence.Quite so. Affluence leads to decadence and decline.

[Jonathan]

Quite so. Affluence leads to decadence and decline.
I think a book by a chap called Dalton mentioned this also in relation to voter alignment, realignment, and dealignment. I'll see if I can find it.

[Fade the Butcher]

I think this is only a recent development brought about by affluence.I second that. The softening effect is also related to democracy. Plato picked up on this over two thousand years ago.

[Ixtab]

You are inferior, you a**hole!
Please don't hurt my feelings.

[Basil Fawlty]

I second that. The softening effect is also related to democracy. Plato picked up on this over two thousand years ago.Yes, and in the Republic tyranny follows democracy in the cycle, which is what we are seeing now.

[A. Radek]

Quite so. Affluence leads to decadence and decline.

Yes. Nations teeming with dumpster divers and beggars are the way to go ... So, Cairo or Calcutta are now the intellectual cutting edge and moral lights of the world, now, eh? ...

No thanks, I like my indoor plumbing and coffeemaker, public libraries, etc. There is no evidence of affluence interfering with the creation of hordes of windbags and intellectual masterbators re 'Middles Ages And Geniuses', in fact the evidence shows just the opposite. Most of that stuff was severely limited in scope and influence; the real paradigm shifters in the West were the engineers, physicians, and mercantilists of the 16th through 18th centuries, and mostly they were Dutch, French and English.

[Basil Fawlty]

Yes. Nations teeming with dumpster divers and beggars are the way to go ... So, Cairo or Calcutta are now the intellectual cutting edge and moral lights of the world, now, eh? ...

No thanks, I like my indoor plumbing and coffeemaker, public libraries, etc. There is no evidence of affluence interfering with the creation of hordes of windbags and intellectual masterbators re 'Middles Ages And Geniuses', in fact the evidence shows just the opposite. Most of that stuff was severely limited in scope and influence; the real paradigm shifters in the West were the engineers, physicians, and mercantilists of the 16th through 18th centuries, and mostly they were Dutch, French and English.Your attachment to all those things make you dependent on external goods. As Il Ragno said elsewhere, this society says 'whoever dies with the most toys is the winner'.