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Dragonair
02-08-2008, 04:21 PM
Do you consider the following persons to be white, or to look white?
1) Mordechai Gur:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/he/8/82/Gur_mordechai.jpg
Here we have a combination of armenid and cromagid with some alpinid influence, a coimbination I would expect on Blakanians rather than semites.
2) Yitzhak Rabin:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Yitzhak_Rabin_%281986%29_cropped.jpg
Here we have an armenid+alpinid combination with cromagid admixture, and again, no visible semitic ancetry.
3) Leonard Bernstein:
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9237/396pxleonardbernstein19wu6.jpg
Here we have another armenid+alpinid combination, just without the cromagid. Again, no visible semitic ancetry.

Forgive me if I'm digging intothis too much, but I'm trying to become a better classifier. Tell me if my classifications are correct.

Ace Rimmer
02-08-2008, 05:52 PM
Do you consider the following persons to be white, or to look white?


They're all Europid.

Hippias
02-08-2008, 08:29 PM
Mordechai Gur looks UP-dinarid.

Btw, what is "semitic ancestry"? There are Semitic language-speakers in the Middle East who are multiracial.

Dragonair
02-09-2008, 09:39 AM
Remind me what is UP...

4) Reinhard Selten:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Reinhard_Selten2.jpg
Here we have an alpine with armenid and maybe nordid influences. Again, nothing semitic I can see.
5) David Ben-Gurion:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/David_BG.jpg
Here we have a dominant armenid with alpine admixture, darker pigmentation than showen above, but again, not a semite.
6) Anton Rubinstein:
http://pianosociety.com/cms/pics/arubinstein.jpg
He we have a nice example of a nordid combined with east alpinid. Looks fully eastern European, and again, not semitic.

Just to note:
A) Armenid means armenoid-that's the true name.
B) Jewish nose is an armenid variation.
Look at Saint Paul:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PaulT.jpg
And compare to a true semitic nose:
http://images.chabadfm.com/imgs/XFQHDANFC1tUTQ.jpg

harjit
02-09-2008, 01:29 PM
Some Jewish treads coming up... not sure if they're Ashkenazi or Sephardic.

http://library.flawlesslogic.com/sobhia.jpg

Dragonair
02-09-2008, 02:23 PM
7) Alfred Hermann Fried:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Fried.gif
Here we have an oddly French-looking mediterranean+alpine, no semitic ancetry as far as I can see.
8) Charles-Valentin Alkan:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Charles-Valentin_Alkan.jpg
Alpine-dinaric mix, nothing non-French that I can see.
9) Jacques Offenbach:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Offenbach_plays_the_cello.jpg
Again, dinaric-alpine. Looks completely French, and non-semitic.

Isra'il Yahya
02-11-2008, 04:55 PM
It would be more precise to consider Ashkenazic Jews to be mixed Europids with some type of vanishing Levantine base at this point.

Dragonair
02-15-2008, 10:48 AM
10) Siegbert Tarrasch:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Tarrasch.jpg
Here we have a non-semitic noric.
11) Paul Wolfowitz:
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Business/nm_wolfowitz_070508_ms.jpg
Here we have an alpinid with armenid admixture, not semitic.
12) Avigdor Lieberman:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/AvigdorLieberman.jpg/190px-AvigdorLieberman.jpg
Here we have an interesting armenid+east baltid, with no semitic ancetry.
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Ashkenazic Jews are of 56% similarity with their host population, while the other part is comprised of armen(o)id variations. They appear in every European racial type, when the most common are the alpinid and arme(o)id. Therefor are not semitic.
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I used this topic to disprove the claim that Jews are semitic. I'll make a tread for the sepharadim soon.

Dragonair
02-15-2008, 05:40 PM
13) Mark Bellinghaus:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/76/MB_movie_still26.jpg
Here we have a very unsemitic hallast nordid. Aryan Jew?
14) Julius Mosen:
http://users.south-tyrolean.net/skrabland/JuliusMosen.jpg
Here we have an extra-pigmanted noric, with no semitic traits.
15) Zac Efron:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Zac_Efron_2007.jpg
Here we have an hallast-nordid+alpine, a non-semitic aryan Jew.

Dragonair
02-16-2008, 09:59 AM
16) Daniel Kahneman:
http://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/2006/0406/images/kahneman_daniel.jpg
Here we have an armenid+alpinid combo, not semitic.
17) Heinrich von Friedberg:
http://www.gerdgruendler.de/Neue_Dateien/Friedberg,%20Heinrich%20v.jpg
Here we have a nice alpine+dinarid, with no semitic ancetry.
18) Vladimir Ashkenazy:
http://www.rachmaninoff.org/home/ashkenazy_lowres.jpg
Here we have a somewhat aged noric, without any semitic trait.
People, please comment-I'm proving that Jews are white!