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Hartmann von Aue
03-18-2008, 03:03 AM
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?sid=397

Radical Powerhouse
The Society of St. Pius X, which has chapels and schools across the United States, remains a font of anti-Semitic propaganda.
by Heidi Beirich




French Archbishop Marcel-François Lefabvre, who founded the Society of St. Pius X in 1970, is the spiritual father of the radical traditionalist movement. (AP Wide World Photos)
The powerhouse organization of the radical traditionalist Catholic world is a sprawling international order called the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX), founded by the late French archbishop, Marcel-François Lefebvre, in 1970. Although there have been recent attempts by the Vatican to pull SSPX back into the Catholic mainstream, the organization, all of whose priests were excommunicated in the late 1980s, has continued to publish anti-Semitic materials, flirt with Holocaust denial and reject any reconciliation with the Catholic Church.

Lefebvre was always on the hard right. During World War II, he supported the pro-Nazi Vichy regime, a puppet government in the part of France not occupied by the Germans. He lamented the eventual liberation of the country, describing it as "the victory of Freemasonry against the Catholic order of Petain. It was the invasion of the barbarians without faith or law!"

Lefebvre later was on an advisory committee to the Second Vatican Council (1962-65), which enacted several liberalizing and modernizing reforms within the church. But the archbishop refused to sign the council's final reports on religious liberty and the modern church, the first sign of a rebellion that would only grow in later years. In 1970, he founded SSPX as a seminary in Ecône, Switzerland.

In 1974, Lefebvre publicly denounced as heretical the Vatican II reforms and the subsequent adoption of the new Mass, celebrated in local languages instead of traditional Latin. As a result, Pope Paul VI ordered the archbishop to shut down his Swiss seminary. But Lefebvre refused to comply, leading the Vatican to suspend his right to perform priestly functions (a step short of excommunication) in 1976.

In 1988, Lefebvre took his most radical step yet, consecrating four bishops in defiance of the Vatican. Pope John Paul II responded by excommunicating Lefebvre and all SSPX priests, and declaring SSPX in formal schism with the church.

The following year, police arrested fugitive French war criminal Paul Touvier, who had been hidden for years by the order, at an SSPX monastery in Nice, France. Touvier was later convicted of ordering the execution of seven Jews in 1944.

Also in 1989, one of Lefebvre's "bishops," Englishman Richard Williamson, gave a speech to a Canadian church in which he decried the alleged persecution of Holocaust denier and neo-Nazi Ernst Zundel by the Canadian government. Williams, then rector of SSPX's main North American seminary in Winona, Minn., told his audience: "There was not one Jew killed in the gas chambers. It was all lies, lies, lies." The Canadian government reacted by banning all SSPX publications.

In the course of his struggle with the Vatican, Lefebvre became a hero to many, emerging as the world's leading critic of church reforms ending the Latin Mass and reaching out to other religions. Already by the mid-1970s, priests ordained by the archbishop were starting chapels and seminaries in the United States. Today, SSPX's American operation, headquartered in Kansas City, Kan., claims 103 chapels and 25 schools, in addition to Kansas City-based Angelus Press. Scholar Michael Cuneo has estimated SSPX has up to 30,000 U. S. adherents.

It is in The Angelus, published monthly by the SSPX press, and on SSPX's website, that the radical anti-Semitism of the order is most evident today. One example now on the website is a 1997 Angelus article by SSPX priests Michael Crowdy and Kenneth Novak that calls for locking Jews into ghettos because "Jews are known to kill Christians." It also blames Jews for the French Revolution, communism and capitalism; suggests a Judeo-Masonic conspiracy has destroyed the Catholic Church; and describes Judaism as "inimical to all nations."

Another document reproduced on the SSPX's current website is a 1959 letter from Lefebvre's close friend, Bishop Gerald Sigaud, who also rejected the Vatican II reforms. "Money, the media, and international politics are for a large part in the hands of Jews," Bishop Sigaud wrote. "Those who have revealed the atomic secrets of the USA were … all Jews. The founders of communism were Jews."

The Angelus Press sells anti-Semitic tomes like Hilaire Beloc's The Jews, which blames Jews for Bolshevism and corrupt financial practices, and Monsignor George Dillon's Freemasonry Unmasked, which purports to explain a centuries-old Judeo-Masonic plot to destroy the Catholic Church. More recent SSPX publications include the 2005 pamphlet Time Bombs of the Second Vatican Council, by Franz Schmidberger, the former superior general of the SSPX. Schmidberger denounces Third World immigration into Western countries as "destroying our national identity and, furthermore, the whole of Christianity," and accuses the Jews of deicide.

Other extremists published in the pages of The Angelus (and carried on the SSPX's current website) include the late Father Denis Fahey; John Vennari, head of Catholic Family News (see profile, p. 29); and Robert Sungenis, the particularly virulent leader of Catholic Apologetics International (see profile, p. 28).

Through it all, SSPX denies all allegations of anti-Semitism.

But even some fellow radical traditionalists have accused SSPX of that and worse. Fidelity, a magazine run by hard-liner E. Michael Jones (see Culture Wars/Fidelity Press profile, p. 29), in 1992 charged a principal SSPX leader in Kansas City of Hitler worship and promoting Nazism to his students. Although the man accused by Fidelity hotly denied the charges, the students quoted by Jones stood by their allegations.
In recent months, Pope Benedict XVI has extended an olive branch to SSPX members, inviting them to return to the church. But the sect's leaders rejected the suggestion outright. As a result, Benedict last September approved an institute for French priests who left the movement. The pope's move marked the effective end to efforts by the Vatican to bring the SSPX sect back into the Catholic fold.


Intelligence Report
Winter 2006

Józef Piłsudski
03-23-2008, 04:03 AM
The focus on anti-Semitism is stupid because anti-Semitism is simply accidental to the mission of the SSPX. There members could drop anti-Semitism and holocaust denial today and still continue to be the SSPX.

I'm not a big fan of the SSPX for reasons such as this. At the same time however, I'm faced with the other choice of praying that the Jews grow closer to their bond with God through their covenant, or whatever such nonsense I heard just yesterday during a NO good Friday service.

Hartmann von Aue
03-23-2008, 04:13 AM
The focus on anti-Semitism is stupid because anti-Semitism is simply accidental to the mission of the SSPX. There members could drop anti-Semitism and holocaust denial today and still continue to be the SSPX.

The question of the attitude of the Church towards Judaism (which is an anti-Christian religion) is very relevant to the mission of the SSPX

I'm not a big fan of the SSPX for reasons such as this. At the same time however, I'm faced with the other choice of praying that the Jews grow closer to their bond with God through their covenant, or whatever such nonsense I heard just yesterday during a NO good Friday service.

You should not allow the distortions of the SPLC, an anti-Catholic organization, sway you in the slightest.

Jake Featherston
03-23-2008, 06:54 AM
There are only eight SSPX chapels in California (although that actually ties us with Minnesota for the #2 spot; only Texas has more), but it turns out that one of them is not only located a mere nine miles from where I live, but is on the mountainous outskirts of the little suburban community where I grew up, of all places. Once I get my registration sticker for my car (hopefully next month) I may have to drive out there and see what's what for myself (I'm doing very little driving these days, what with the lack of a valid registration sticker and a very delinquent traffic ticket being a somewhat poor combination for those who prefer to remain outside the county jail, if only for a brief visit).

Józef Piłsudski
03-23-2008, 12:45 PM
The question of the attitude of the Church towards Judaism (which is an anti-Christian religion) is very relevant to the mission of the SSPX
I agree that the SSPX is combating false forms of ecumenicalism and I agree whole heartily with this effort. At the same time combating the current Church's stance on Judaism does not mean that one has to resort to antisemitism. Holocaust denial and blood guilt have no place in the Church, yet neither do prayers calling for Jews to "grow closer to God in their covenant".

Hartmann von Aue
03-23-2008, 03:58 PM
I agree that the SSPX is combating false forms of ecumenicalism and I agree whole heartily with this effort. At the same time combating the current Church's stance on Judaism does not mean that one has to resort to antisemitism. Holocaust denial and blood guilt have no place in the Church, yet neither do prayers calling for Jews to "grow closer to God in their covenant".

What do you mean by "blood guilt?"

Józef Piłsudski
03-24-2008, 07:15 PM
What do you mean by "blood guilt?"
That an individual Jew bares the sins of Christ's death as if he has inherited this specific sin. Which of course is not true, we don't inherit our forefather's sins. At the same time all sins, whether it be a rejection of Christ through an old covenant or by using His name in vain, have led to the death of Christ.

Understand that as much as I hate anti-semitism, I also hate this crap that modernists push (praying that the Jews grow in their covenant).

Hartmann von Aue
03-24-2008, 11:02 PM
That an individual Jew bares the sins of Christ's death as if he has inherited this specific sin. Which of course is not true, we don't inherit our forefather's sins.

That's not the issue though. You can't allow the ADL or the SPLC or the typical liberal define the terms.

If you read Schmidberger's essay, he states, that as a religion, Judaism is responsible for the crucifixion. The Gospels say that the leaders of Jews brought him to Pilate to be killed and that the crowd cried "Crucify him!"

People refer to the things "the Catholic Church" did in the past all the time. Those who say it is unacceptable antisemitism to say that "the Jews had Christ crucified" are trying to manipulate meaning by controlling language. We all see how people like Kamandi say that the Church no longer teaches that the Jews were responsible for the crucifixion. Only "biblical literalists" believe it. Jews who say so are determined that the Church's words mean what they demand that they mean. That is why such ambiguous statements have caused disastrous scandal.

When the crowd cried: "Let his blood be on us and our children!", they were not just expressing the attitude of a moment, but an attitude that has been maintained for these past two millenia. They have taught their children to hate Christ and to hate Christianity. Have they all done that? Of course not - some have even become sincere Christians. And when they do they are no longer practicing the Jewish religion.

Of course saying so is considered antisemitism, so I will refer you to some examples:

I hope my Christian friends will forgive me. That they may better understand, let me say that to the Jews, their God is, in a way, the Devil, if, as they say, the Devil is the symbol and essence of all evil on earth, iniquitous and all-powerful, incomprehensible and bent on crushing helpless human beings.

Albert Memmi: (quoted in Vicomte Leon de Poncins Judaism and the Vatican)

Sigmund Freud idolized Hannibal. So much so that for years he was psychologically unable to enter Rome because Hannibal had never set foot in the city.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,948488-2,00.html

'I had actually been following in Hannibal's footsteps. Like him, I had been fated not to see Rome; and he too had moved into the Campagna when everyone had expected him in Rome. But Hannibal, whom I had come to resemble in these respects, had been the favourite hero of my later school days. Like so many boys of that age, I had sympathized in the Punic Wars not with the Roman but with the Carthaginians. And when in the higher classes I began to understand for the first time what it means to belong to an alien race, and anti-Semitic feelings among the other boys warned me that I must take up a definite position, the figure of the Semitic general rose still higher in my esteem. To my youthful mind Hannibal and Rome symbolized the conflict between the tenacity of Jewry and the organization of the Catholic Church. And the increasing importance of the effects of the anti-Semitic movement upon our emotional life helped to fix the thoughts and feeling of those early days ... At that point I was brought up against the event in my youth whose power was still being shown in all these emotions and dreams. I may have been ten or twelve years old, when my father began to take me with him on his walks and reveal to me in his talk his views upon things in the world we live in. Thus, it was on one such occasion that he told me a story to show me how much better things were now than they had been in his days. 'When I was a young man,' he said, 'I went for a walk one Saturday in the streets of your birthplace; I was well-dressed, and had a new fur cap on my head. A Christian came up to me and with a single blow knocked off my cap into the mud and shouted: 'Jew! get off the pavement!' 'And what did you do?' I asked. 'I went into the roadway and picked up my cap,' was his quiet reply. This struck me as unheroic conduct on the part of the big, strong man who was holding the little boy by the hand. I contrasted this situation with another which fitted my feelings better: the scene in which Hannibal's father, Hamilcar Barca, made his boy swear before the household altar to take vengeance on the Romans. Ever since that time, Hannibal had had a place in my phantasies.'

http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/szasz.htm

Video "We killed Jesus, and we're proud of it" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M539PgDjbas)

For a number of reasons, not least that of its not infrequent proximity to Holy Week, Purim, also called the "festival of the lots", came, in time, to acquire openly anti-Christian connotations and the related celebrations became openly suggestive in this sense, both in form and substance, sometimes audaciously and openly. Haman, equated with that other Biblical arch-enemy of the Jews, Amalek (Deut. 25: 17-19), whose memory was to be blotted out from the face of the earth, was transformed, over time, into Jesus, the False Messiah, whose impious followers were once threatening the Chosen People with extermination (19).

Moreover, Haman was killed, hanged, as Jesus was said to have been, and there was no shortage of exegetic material reinforcing this paragon. In the Greek translation of the Septuagint as well as in Flavius Josephus (Ant. Jud. Xi, 267, 280), Haman’s gallows was interpreted as a cross, and the execution of King Ahasuerus’s belligerent minister was described, in effect, as a true and proper crucifixion. The equation between Amalek, Haman and Christ was self-evidently obvious. Haman, who, in the Biblical text is referred to as talui, "the hanged one", was confused with He who, in all anti-Christian Hebraic texts, was the Talui by antonomasia [the replacement of a proper name by an epithet], i.e., the crucified Christ (20).

. . .

In the early modern age, the carnival-like festivities of Purim finally lost those qualities of aggressiveness and violence which had been characteristic since the early Middle Ages, but never renounced the clearly anti-Christian meaning it possessed according to tradition. Thus wrote Giulio Morosini, known as Shemuel Nahmias at Venice when he was still a Jew, a shrewd former disciple of Leon da Modena:

"During the reading [of the megillah of Esther], whenever Haman is named, the boys beat the benches of the synagogue with hammers or sticks with all their might as a sign of excommunication, crying in a loud voice 'May his name be blotted out and may the name of the impious rot. And they all cried 'Be cursed, Haman, Be blessed, Mordechai, Be blessed Esther, Be cursed Ahasueruss.' And they continue like that until evening, just as on the morning of the first day, never ceasing to express their justified contempt for Haman and the enemies of Judaism at that time, covertly spreading poison against Christians, under the name of Idolaters [...] they therefore cry out in a loud voice Be Cursed all the Idolaters (43).

But at an even earlier time, the illustrious jurist Marquardo Susanni, protected by Paolo IV Carafa, the fervent and impassioned founder of the Ghetto of Rome, mentioned the wild hostility of the Jews towards Christianity as well as the peculiar carnival-like characteristics of Purim . According to him, "during the feast of Mordechai", the Jews did not hesitate to greet each other by saying, in contemptuous tones:

'May the King of the Christians go down to ruin immediately, the way Haman went down to ruin"

http://bloodpassover.com/toaff8complete.htm

Understand that as much as I hate anti-semitism, I also hate this crap that modernists push (praying that the Jews grow in their covenant).

You have to understand that when you say "I hate antisemitism" you are leaving yourself at the mercy of those who control the language.

Józef Piłsudski
03-25-2008, 10:57 PM
That some Jews hate Christ is undeniable, and they will be held accountable. Yet it would be dishonest to extraopolitate that onto the whole race. I personally know of Jewish converts and they are wonderful conservative Catholics, all they needed was to be shown who Christ was. With that in mind, they are many Jews out there who are awaiting the new covenant, and only need to be shown the way.

For that reason I believe it is wrong to hate a Jew because they were born into poor circumstances. I was fortunate and blessed to born into a Catholic household, to receive baptism as an infant, and to be taken to Church. For those who have not been introduced to Christ, I truly pity, but I have faith that God will reach all, including Jews who have been raised to live a life devoid of Christ.

Hartmann von Aue
03-25-2008, 10:59 PM
Yet it would be dishonest to extraopolitate that onto the whole race.

Schmidberger didn't do that.

He was talking about the Jewish religion.

Józef Piłsudski
03-25-2008, 11:17 PM
Schmidberger didn't do that.

He was talking about the Jewish religion.
The Jewish religion has rejected Christ. Certain Jews are responsible for the death of Christ. The Jewish religion cannot possibly be responsible for the death of Christ.

If you take that same line of thinking, then you can argue that the sins of certain clergymen are the sins of the Catholic Church.

Hartmann von Aue
03-25-2008, 11:52 PM
The Jewish religion has rejected Christ, of course, but individuals commit actions, not religions.

I have Schmidberger's pamphlet here:

"Can we say the Jews are guilty of Deicide? We must say yes because it is they who asked for our Lord's death and called for his blood upon their heads and the heads of their children. I want to be very clear, I do not speak about the Jews as a race, I speak about the Jews as a religion. So what about the Jews of our day? Well, as long as they do not withdraw from this crime, from this action of their ancestors, they are also guilty of it. They must disassociate themselves from it and recognize our Lord; they must be baptized and become His disciples."

If you take that same line of thinking, then you can argue that the sins of certain clergymen are the sins of the Catholic Church.

If the Catholic religion teaches something it is taking responsibility for that teaching. Here's what the Talmud says:

Sanhedrin 43A: "On Passover Eve they hanged Jesus of Nazareth. He practiced sorcery, incited and led Israel astray...Was Jesus of Nazareth deserving of a search for an argument in his favor? He was an enticer and the Torah says, 'You shall not spare, nor shall you conceal him!"

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/wire1.html

Hartmann von Aue
03-26-2008, 12:09 AM
http://www.geocities.com/pharsea/Perfidy.html

"Judaism, since Christ, is a corruption; indeed, Judas is the image of the Jewish people: their understanding of Scripture is carnal; they bear the guilt for the death of the Saviour, for through their fathers they have killed Christ." [St Augustine]

"The Jews, therefore, not only made themselves strangers to the covenants, but also dishonoured the Father and killed the Son in envy." [St Ephraim the Syrian]

"The Jews are murderers of the Lord .... They are guilty of shouting: 'Away with him, away with him! Crucify him!' He who was God in the flesh!" [St Gregory of Nyssa: Oration on the Resurrection of Christ]

"Nor is it sufficient that we call Him who is in Heaven 'Father.' We must add to the name 'Our Father.' This name rebukes and condemns the Jews who not only spurned Christ faithlessly, but also cruelly executed Him Who was announced to them by the prophets, and sent first to their nation. No longer may they call God their Father, because the Lord confounds and refutes them, saying: 'your father is the devil' [John 8:44]. O sinful nation, O people weighed down with guilt, breed of evil-doers, lawless children, you have turned your backs on the Lord and have provoked the Holy One of Israel." [St Cyprian: On The Lord's Prayer]

"If someone should kill the beloved son of a man, and then stretch forth their hands still stained with blood to the afflicted father, asking for fellowship, would not the blood of his son, still visible on the hand of his murderer, provoke him to just anger instead? And such are the prayers of the Jews, for when they stretch forth their hands in prayer, they only remind God the Father of their sin against His Son. And at every stretching forth of their hands, they only make it obvious that they are stained with the blood of Christ."
[St Basil: On Prayer, Sermon Nine]

"Israel, since the deicide, has been given over to commerce with demons; the Jews have all the vices of beasts and are good for nothing but slaughter; gluttons, drunkards, sensualists living for their belly .... they behave no better than pigs and goats in their lewd vulgarities. Their crime leaves them no hope of mending their ways of being pardoned. The synagogue is a brothel, a den of thieves, a lair of wild beasts."
[St John Chrysostom]

"Poor Jews! You invoked a dreadful curse upon your own heads in saying: 'His blood be on us and our children'; and that curse, miserable race, you carry upon you to this day, and to the end of time you shall endure the chastisement of that innocent blood." [St. Alphonsus Maria Liguouri, The Passion and death of Jesus Christ.]

"Pilate took water in accordance with that, 'I will wash my hands in innocency', in a manner testifying and saying, I indeed have sought to deliver this innocent man, but since a tumult is rising, and the charge of treason to Caesar is urged against me, I am innocent of the blood of this just man .... Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us and on our children. This imprecation rests at the present day upon the Jews: the Lord's blood is not removed from them." [St Thomas Aquinas : Catena Aurea]

Józef Piłsudski
03-27-2008, 08:44 PM
You bring up some interesting points, but I still do not think that I can agree.

First of all, the argument that because the crowd shouted "His blood be on us and our children" does not make it so. I too can shout out that my sins will be on my children, this does not make it so. Also, this only applies to the descendets of those at that crowd, can we safely assume that every Jew is a descendent of someone who was at that crowd?

I will agree that the Jewish nation does seem cursed, but I think this is because they have rejected Christ, and not because they necessairly killed him. Individuals killed Christ.

As for your Talmudic quote, I'm not familiar enough with the Talmud to know what influence this has on the Jews. In any case, if Judaism teaches that Christ's death was right, then you may have an argument. I understand that Judaism can be as varied as Protestantism so I would hesitate to say that all Jews profess Christ death as legitimate.

Hartmann von Aue
03-29-2008, 05:27 PM
This is actually the text of the "Time-Bombs of the Second Vatican Council" (or very close to it) that the SPLC is indicting as antisemitic.

http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/Society_of_Saint_Pius_X/Catholic-Church-and-Second-Vatican-Council.htm