We must show our opposition to Islam, says Danish queen

[Petr]

I really hope that this conflict betwen Danes and Dar-al-Islam will keep on escalating... now we need some Danish patriots to torch up a Koran and Muslims then seriously losing their self-control. Perfect anti-PR for multiculturalism! :tongue:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/04/15/wqueen15.xml


We must show our opposition to Islam, says Danish queen

By Hannah Cleaver in Berlin

(Filed: 15/04/2005)


Queen Margrethe II of Denmark has called on the country "to show our opposition to Islam", regardless of the opprobium such a stance provokes abroad.

Her comments further undermined the image of Denmark as a liberal haven for those seeking a new life in northern Europe.

The Danish government has already been accused of fuelling xenophobia by introducing measures which effectively closed the country to asylum seekers.

But in overtly political passages from an official biography published yesterday Queen Margrethe makes comments certain to complicate her nation's relationship with Muslims.

She said: "We are being challenged by Islam these years - globally as well as locally. It is a challenge we have to take seriously. We have let this issue float about for too long because we are tolerant and lazy.

"We have to show our opposition to Islam and we have to, at times, run the risk of having unflattering labels placed on us because there are some things for which we should display no tolerance."

"And when we are tolerant, we must know whether it is because of convenience or conviction."

The Queen, who turns 65 tomorrow and has reigned since 1972, wields no political power but does occasionally comment on political issues.

Denmark has seriously limited immigration in the past three years and the anti-immigrant Danish People's Party, an ally of the centre-Right government, has pushed through laws making it harder to bring in foreign spouses or qualify for asylum.

The queen told her biographer, Annelise Bistrup, apparently referring to Muslim fundamentalists: "There is something impressive about people for whom religion imbues their existence, from dusk to dawn, from cradle to grave."

She said she understood how disaffected young Muslims might find refuge in religion. This tendency should be fought by encouraging Muslims to learn Danish so they could integrate better, she said.

"We should not be content with living next to each other. We should rather live together."

[B-Pep]

Now I know Muslim's are not the real enemy. I haven't seen this story on CNN yet.

How come she doesn't criticize Jewry? Oh wait, that's right, it's against Danish law (as is "holocaust denial").

I agree Danes should be able to say what they want about muslims or anyone in their press, but their laws and "free speech" is filled with double standards.

[Jimbo Gomez]

I don't think holocaust denial is illegal in Denmark.

You ask why she doesn't critisize jewry? It isn't jews who threatened to kill Danes or who set fire to their embassy in Lybia you know...

[Starr]

Under different circumstances this woman probably has the balls that a lot of the men, who are concerned with being tolerant, lack, however:

This tendency should be fought by encouraging Muslims to learn Danish so they could integrate better, she said.

"We should not be content with living next to each other. We should rather live together."

:rolleyes: the failure of this crap that she is peddeling helps to create some of the problems that led her to her bitch rant.:rolleyes:

[raven]

I am very proud of Denmark. I'm definately rooting for the Danish People's Party (whom have made some change but take note that in 2005 Denmark still had a net migration rate of 2.53 persons/1000 but it sure beats Canada's 5.9/1000). However by those last lines I am really unsure what the Queen is suggesting. She is opposed to Islam but yet she doesn't mind muslims being in the country so as long as they integrate better?! And the article was looking real good until the last two lines too. :(

And what is up with the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" shit? Why should we side with the muslims over the jews? The muslims are not our friend, don't want to be our friend and see us only as an obstacle in colonizing Islam worldwide.

[Lenny]

I'm definately rooting for the Danish People's PartyThe DFP is too soft and too moderate according to the true patriots in Denmark. As for me I'm rooting for the day when the DFP will be the main centrist party in Denmark rather than the "extreme" right-wing party it is portrayed as now

[Faustian Dreams]

I am very proud of Denmark. I'm definately rooting for the Danish People's Party (whom have made some change but take note that in 2005 Denmark still had a net migration rate of 2.53 persons/1000 but it sure beats Canada's 5.9/1000). However by those last lines I am really unsure what the Queen is suggesting. She is opposed to Islam but yet she doesn't mind muslims being in the country so as long as they integrate better?! And the article was looking real good until the last two lines too. :(

And what is up with the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" shit? Why should we side with the muslims over the jews? The muslims are not our friend, don't want to be our friend and see us only as an obstacle in colonizing Islam worldwide.

I agree. Let's hope they realize that Europe must be rid of all Semitic peoples.

[Péter]

I agree. Let's hope they realize that Europe must be rid of all Semitic peoples.

Your hope is in vain, for they won't come to any such conclusion. Don't be fooled.

"We should not be content with living next to each other. We should rather live together."

Such a statement by the Queen shows her lack of understanding. The problem is by no means Islam, but the adoption of multiculturalism in Europe. Without such an undertaking, there would be no Muslims in Denmark to worry about, and Islam would still be a curiosity--as many foreign religions once were, and all the more amazing for being such--rather than a threat. What good is attacking the symptoms when the illness must be cured? Medicine realized this long ago, but already this was not new knowledge. Now it is but lost wisdom.

[raven]

The DFP is too soft and too moderate according to the true patriots in Denmark. As for me I'm rooting for the day when the DFP will be the main centrist party in Denmark rather than the "extreme" right-wing party it is portrayed as now
Well it all depends on the person. Personally I prefer the Danish People's Party to the more extreme parties. For eg. Portugal's Nationalist party PNR seemed like something I would support until I found out that they had large support for former Fascist leader Salazar (really stupid dictator he was) and have neo-Imperialist views. (ie. wanting to regain control over Angola and Mozambique). Such extremity makes me uncomfortable and it alienates the majority of people who do have nationalistic beliefs.

Anywho the DPP are the 3rd largest party in Denmark and have made some change and will hopefully continue to make change as they gain more and more seats.

[Hakluyt]

The Queen's statement suggests she opposes multiculturalism. This is probably because she is so disconnected from the political significance her position holds (monarchs have traditionally been proponents of particularist multiculturalism in social policy)

[Péter]

The Queen's statement suggests she opposes multiculturalism.

I didn't glean as much. Assimilation means hybridization--a dilution of race and culture!

[Hakluyt]

Multiculturalism vs. assimilation is a simpler, unSpenglerian dichotomy - 'culture' would be used in the sense of national culture, or perhaps 'state culture' is more descriptive. It is still an important distinction when it comes to setting precedents in public policy, however (assimilation is a path of no return, whereas multiculturalism at least establishes for us the rights of ethnic groups to maintain culture, for the single reason that they are indeed separate ethnic groups)

[Lenny]

the DPP are the 3rd largest party in Denmark and have made some change and will hopefully continue to make change as they gain more and more seats.Dansk FolkeParti supports restricting immigration but not repatriation. Repatriation is a must

[Leonard Smalls]

Denmark, fuck yeah!

[Kodos]

Good for the queen.

[sphinx]

We are tolerant and lazy, she says.
But we have been tolerant of extremists too long. Look at the banners in the street, they are demanding the death penalty (beheading even!) for anyone exercising free speech in their own country. Religion has much to answer for and the people who promote it even more; beheading is barbaric.
I hope more European rulers and governments will listen and speak out. The last thing Europe needs is little ghettos of foreigners who will not even learn the language of the host country; it is like ulcers in the skin.

[tempus fugit]

Maybe I'll have to take back all that I've said about "New Europe".

[zenero]

And thus it 'now' becomes apparent, duh!, as if it didn't already, for what reason there "all of a sudden" seems to be outrage over these cartoons.

Remember, the cartoons in question were published in September 2005. Where was the Islamic outrage in September 2005?

So, question is: who told the Islamic world for what reason those cartoons existed?

Also remember that according Islamic law one is not supposed to behold pictures. So, how come devout Islamics know of the existence of the pictures?

See the picture emerging here?

[Starr]

And thus it 'now' becomes apparent, duh!, as if it didn't already, for what reason there "all of a sudden" seems to be outrage over these cartoons.

Remember, the cartoons in question were published in September 2005. Where was the Islamic outrage in September 2005?

So, question is: who told the Islamic world for what reason those cartoons existed?



I also was just saying I found this fishy. Cowcube(I think) said that it was other muslims who had seen the cartoons who basically brought the cartoons to the attention of the larger islamic world, and got the whole thing going, but who knows. I suppose it is entirely possible that Muslims may need this right now to further stir up their people against the west, and thus could be responsible(as someone mentioned)

But what you are getting at is probably the more likely scenario. This was the very first thing I thought of, as well.

[Kodos]

And thus it 'now' becomes apparent, duh!, as if it didn't already, for what reason there "all of a sudden" seems to be outrage over these cartoons.

Do you take the little bus to stupidtown?

[Fade the Butcher]

Every photo of Muslims burning Danish flags is a blow to multiculturalism.

[Jonathan]

I would bow low to such a queen. Monarchy is the natural order.
On what grounds?

[Anarch]

I'm waiting for a Monarch of Europe to state that these creatures cannot be assimilated into any civilised society.

[Jonathan]

I'm waiting for a Monarch of Europe to state that these creatures cannot be assimilated into any civilised society.
Didn't the Pope not say it a while ago?