Muslim demonstration in London against Denmark (Photos)

[Lenny]

Here are some photos from the Muslim demonstration outside the Danish embassy, London, Feb 3 2006:

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You cant make this stuff up folks!

I swear, watching these muslims reactions to a few cartoons is like watching an absurdly exaggerated farce comedy :rofl: :rofl:

[The Retard]

Excellent post, Lenny!

[Péter]

It's nice to see some people with actual conviction. Europe, an example for you has been set. Will you rise to the occasion?

[tempus fugit]

It's nice to see some people with actual conviction. Europe, an example for you has been set. Will you rise to the occasion?

Exactly........you really can't hate them for lack of courage (other than that they wear cloth around their face).....

[Felix the Cat]

It isn't "courage" to believe yourself invicible in battle no matter the odds against you

Muslims are taught from early childhood that no Muslim army in history has ever been defeated by infidels - that where such defeats seemingly occured, it was always due to them being insufficiently Muslim

Now, it's obvious no pious Muslim thinks himself an unbeliever or apostate. Therefore, when Muslims pick unequal quarrels like this they do so in the secure knowledge that Allah will back them up and give them victory

This isn't bravery, it's insanity

[Pablo Escobar]

Welcome to the weird and wonderful world of having disobedient muslims
inside your country.

[Berianidze]

Maybe it's not "courage" in the traditional sense (it vaguely reminds me of that analogy in the movie "Angus"--Superman isn't brave because he's invincible), but nonetheless there is something to be said about their convictions. They're extremely dedicated, and even if it is their piety and utterly strict convictions to their religion, I still see them in a favourable light, and I think they're worth paying attention too, and not just for security reasons either.

[Felix the Cat]

Muslims can make good soldiers when subjected to stern discipline, and commanded by intelligent leaders who don't share their delusions

But if you give them any real freedom, or let them loose in a liberal society, they'll just end up destroying themselves (while causing a lot of damage to others in the process)

These people must either be removed from Europe, or their civil liberties must be severely curbed

[Faustian Dreams]

Here are some photos from the Muslim demonstration outside the Danish embassy, London, Feb 3 2006:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/CaliThief/3islam.jpg

Question: Who are these people complaining to? "Slaughter Those Who Slander Islam" seems like they're seeking some form of compensation from the government itself. But with self-hate being the norm, who knows?!? Maybe if they ask nicely Tony Blair will go around handing out these...

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That officer sure looks thrilled to be on duty...and I'm sure if any Londoner should have pelted a rock and that fellow with the friendly sign, he'd have no choice but to arrest the chap!

[Lenny]

Here are more photos from the same demonstration:

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The headband on the baby says "I heart Al-Qaeda".

I swear, these signs are what comedy writers who are trying to write a comedic and absurdly farcical script of a muslim demonstration against the printing of mildly anti-muslim cartoons would come up with :rofl:

[Ambrosio Spinola]

Now you go out there with a similar sign saying "Jews" or "Inmigrants" and you will rott in jail for years. In healthy times a mob would have emerged upon the raising of these signs and would have lynched and thrown into the Thamse this invader filth. As it is, with our emasculated Europe, we will most likely "understand" them and hand out some more freebies.

The day of the rope can not come to soon.

[Starr]

[QUOTE=Lenny]

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Such a cute child.:(

[OVERWATCH]

[quote]


Such a cute child.:(

Yes, execute the parents and adopt her into a decent home.

[Ahknaton]

These photos are unreal. It's tempting to speculate that some of the masked demonstrators are agent-provocateurs trying to make Muslims look bad. It's hard to believe that they would be this brazen and stupid. But that's probably just denial.

[Ambrosio Spinola]

These photos are unreal. It's tempting to speculate that some of the masked demonstrators are agent-provocateurs trying to make Muslims look bad. It's hard to believe that they would be this brazen and stupid. But that's probably just denial.

I must agree. The outrageousness of most of the written slogangs is such that it can only but backfire towards the (sure to loose) muslim comunities all around Europe if push would come eventually to shove. Its that or a thought out message carriers from several Islamic extremist groups who care not in dragging along the rest of the more peacefull muslim comunitie? Is there such thing?

[Excorcism]

I must agree. The outrageousness of most of the written slogangs is such that it can only but backfire towards the (sure to loose) muslim comunities all around Europe if push would come eventually to shove. Its that or a thought out message carriers from several Islamic extremist groups who care not in dragging along the rest of the more peacefull muslim comunitie? Is there such thing?

ya, from what it looks like, you have bunch of rowdy, heavily religious muslims that apparantly don't care for national borders and culture. They shout and shout about their condition and think violence will solve everything. Well, it didn't work for Mao and it won't work for them by threatening to stab everyone. I'm seriously amazed though as to the level of aggression of some of these muslims in Europe. They generally don't tend to be that aggressive here and there are actually peaceful communities. Yet, from what I'm seeing, I wouldn't be surprised if countries in North Africa or the Middle East kick out their criminals and extremists to Europe. Not everyone who runs to another country for refuge was a "political prisoner" in their former country.

[Kodos]

Originally posted by 88mmFlaK
Yes, execute the parents and adopt her into a decent home.

Death or conversion for all muslim adults( they must prove it by desecrating a koran)... all children of the "cleansed" to evangelicals and mormons who like to adopt.

[Empress Cheesatine]

It's nice to see some people with actual conviction. Europe, an example for you has been set. Will you rise to the occasion?

White folks must or we're done for. Blatant threats like this can only be beneficial for our people. As many whites as possible must see these photos.

[Petyr Baelish]

LOL, these people are going around threatening to murder others and burning down embassies as a form of protest against cartoons that portray Islam as violent? What's the Arabic word for "irony", does anyone know?

[Fade the Butcher]

Liberalism is going to die one way or the other.

1.) European nationalists take power, repudiate liberalism, and deport Muslims through authoritarian measures.

2.) Muslims become demographically predominant and dismantle the liberal democratic regime they dislike.

The alternative to this is the liberal multiculturalist fantasy where all races and peoples get along and love each other in their European melting pot.

"By 2010 we'll be watching burning buildings, street riots and assassinations on the news every night."
--Mark Steyn

[Pablo Escobar]

1.) European nationalists take power, repudiate liberalism, and deport Muslims through authoritarian measures.

USA/NATO attack that country and put it under an embargo.


2.) Muslims become demographically predominant and dismantle the liberal democratic regime they dislike.

Won't happen soon.


The alternative to this is the liberal multiculturalist fantasy where all races and peoples get along and love each other in their European melting pot.

Won't happen ever.

[Fade the Butcher]

USA/NATO attack that country and put it under an embargo.

France, Britain, and Germany are not Serbia. If European nationalists did take power to deport non-European minorities, then it would most likely happen within a NATO country which, of course, could not be attacked by its NATO allies.

Won't happen soon.

It's already happening. Muslims don't have to become predominant either to have their illiberal political preferences reflected in liberal democracies. Blair's proposed law against religious blasphemy was defeated just the other day.

[Slavic Enforcer]

You people know that when somebody is born on English territory, he automatically gets the English citizenship?

Too bad that the people on these demonstrations are probably all 'Englishmen by passport', otherwise England could've sent them where they belong.
:mad:

[Pablo Escobar]

France, Britain, and Germany are not Serbia.

Nope, they are a part of the anti-nationalist alliance led by USA.


If European nationalists did take power to deport non-European minorities, then it would most likely happen within a NATO country which, of course, could not be attacked by its NATO allies.

It won't happen in a NATO country, because Serbia was used as an example
of what happens to nationalists. The all-powerful NATO bringing "peace" and "multiethnic co-existence" to Europe, USA spreading "democracy" etc. :rolleyes:

The governments of Britain, Germany and France are simply too stable for any sort of nationalism to flourish.
For a coup d'etat you'd need organization, and that won't happen.

Sure, the rulling party will change, but nothing drastic will happen.
The only possible source of change is in the ex-eastern bloc countries.


It's already happening. Muslims don't have to become predominant either to have their illiberal political preferences reflected in liberal democracies. Blair's proposed law against religious blasphemy was defeated just the other day.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[Felix the Cat]

It won't happen in a NATO country, because Serbia was used as an example
of what happens to nationalists. The all-powerful NATO bringing "peace" and "multiethnic co-existence" to Europe, USA spreading "democracy" etc.

Neutrality is a policy which carries both advantages and dangers

For 40 years Yugoslavia profited greatly from the conflict between Russia and America, but was then left dangerously exposed diplomatically when the USSR collapsed

The Swiss have also had major difficulties adapting to the post-Cold War world

None of this applies to Britain, France or Germany

[Pablo Escobar]

Neutrality is a policy which carries both advantages and dangers

For 40 years Yugoslavia profited greatly from the conflict between Russia and America, but was then left dangerously exposed diplomatically when the USSR collapsed

The Swiss have also had major difficulties adapting to the post-Cold War world

None of this applies to Britain, France or Germany

What planet are you from?

[Fade the Butcher]

Nope, they are a part of the anti-nationalist alliance led by USA.

Would the U.S./NATO attack France, Britain, or Germany if the FN, BNP, or NDP came to power?

It won't happen in a NATO country, because Serbia was used as an example of what happens to nationalists.

Serbia isn't a valid analogy, as Serbia is not a member of NATO and couldn't possibly defend itself. In any case, Turkey has ruthlessly persecuted the Kurds for decades and has not been attacked by the West. The West can't attack Russia because for its handling of the Chechan problem because it can easily defend itself.

The all-powerful NATO bringing "peace" and "multiethnic co-existence" to Europe, USA spreading "democracy" etc.

The U.S./NATO hasn't brought peace and multiethnic coexistence to Russia.

The governments of Britain, Germany and France are simply too stable for any sort of nationalism to flourish.

Would any of these countries be attacked if their respective nationalist parties gained power?

For a coup d'etat you'd need organization, and that won't happen.

I could forsee some Western European nationalist parties coming to power through democratic elections (i.e., FN in France and Vlaams Belang in Belgium). Some of these parties already hold some degree of power, as is the case in Denmark. They couldn't be attacked by the U.S. either under the NATO alliance.

Sure, the rulling party will change, but nothing drastic will happen.
The only possible source of change is in the ex-eastern bloc countries.

I don't believe the situation that currently prevails in Western Europe will last forever. I think it will eventually get worse and more and more people will get fed up with the status quo. Then some sort of crisis will come along and it will explode.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

We can already see it happening; how the demographic presence of large Islamic minorities undermines the civil liberties that liberals hold so dear.

[brigadier Biggles]

You people know that when somebody is born on English territory, he automatically gets the English citizenship?

Too bad that the people on these demonstrations are probably all 'Englishmen by passport', otherwise England could've sent them where they belong.
:mad:

they are not English and never will be (and btw there is no English passport), they are British, which lies the underlying problem...

MI5 have set up a section to investigate this protest on friday, which had a few hundred muslims marching from their mosque in central London to an embassy in west london, quite a large number for a minority ?, they were lucky they didnt do it on the day after on Saturday when there would of been loads of football fans around..

[brigadier Biggles]

What planet are you from?

he/she must be on another planet as theres no intelligent life on this one.

[Atlas]

Would the U.S./NATO attack France, Britain, or Germany if the FN, BNP, or NDP came to power ?

As long as these parties don't start a genocide, they won't. I think the US won't do anything if they just deport all illegals and stop immigration. What happened in the Balkans doesn't apply nowadays since the 9/11 changed the rules of the game. I don't see Americans supporting muslims against christians/protestants anymore.

[Excorcism]

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[Leif]

Whoa. Did anyone bother to take a closer look at this picture?

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[Walden]

Muslims are taught from early childhood that no Muslim army in history has ever been defeated by infidels - that where such defeats seemingly occured, it was always due to them being insufficiently Muslim



FALSE.


While the credo is "God determines the results of battles", it doesn't mean that if you lose you aren't Muslim. Plenty of religious muslim armies got their asses handed to them. The Prophet's own army was defeated at Uhud.

If you've been beaten, it's because God wants you to learn something from it, not because you are a "bad Muslim".

[SteamshipTime]

Those pictures are remarkable. They underscore the paralysis of the liberal, secular society, like those French on the train being terrorized by wogs. And, to be fair, the British government's inability to deal with the homegrown thugs it obligingly pays to live in public housing.

Canada strikes me as another example. In the US, the Hell's Angels have been hounded into a social club whose members sell crank to each other and occassionally fight over women. In Canada, they're the friggin' Cosa Nostra.

[Fade the Butcher]

Those pictures are remarkable. They underscore the paralysis of the liberal, secular society, like those French on the train being terrorized by wogs.

Those are just underprivileged members of the underclass voicing their discontent over their lack of economic opportunity and political representation. Slay Those Who Insult Islam is really just a cry for economic handouts.

[Jonathan]

Whoa. Did anyone bother to take a closer look at this picture?
Potential insults asside, I thought that was funny :D

[sphinx]

They are taught tolerance by their Koran:

109:6

unto you your religion, and unto me my religion

I have been looking through the Koran (in translation, of course) and cannot find where it says they have to behead unbelievers. There are other bits where they are told not to kill.
I think that the fault is not in the original Koran but in the way it has been used to brainwash the people; and there are also the sayings of Mohammed which are treated as gospel and I think these may include the jihad ideas - perhaps someone will enlighten me further on these points.

[Ace Rimmer]

What's the source of these photos? Lenny?

[Felix the Cat]

If you've been beaten, it's because God wants you to learn something from it, not because you are a "bad Muslim".
Over a millenium ago, Mohammed, with only a small group of Arabs, defeated and destroyed the two greatest military powers of his age

In our own times, Mahdi Osama, also with only a small group of Arabs, has defeated and destroyed one of the two greatest powers of his day, the USSR

So now simple-minded Muslims are flinging themselves like lemmings at the United States, in the absolute and unshakable conviction that with just "one more attack", they can also smash the US to pieces, and repeat the victories of their prophet

I note that the Mahdi himself reiterated his own belief in this just a few weeks ago

So after five years of pointlessly expending the lives of Muslims in this war, he still persists in believing that he lives in year AD 630, that the world has remained unchanged for over a millenium, and that history repeats itself in facile and simplistic ways

If indeed Muslims are supposed to "learn" from their defeats, I see no sign of it

[Walden]

They are taught tolerance by their Koran:

109:6

unto you your religion, and unto me my religion

I have been looking through the Koran (in translation, of course) and cannot find where it says they have to behead unbelievers. There are other bits where they are told not to kill.
I think that the fault is not in the original Koran but in the way it has been used to brainwash the people; and there are also the sayings of Mohammed which are treated as gospel and I think these may include the jihad ideas - perhaps someone will enlighten me further on these points.



Which interpretation are you using? You have to be very careful, because certain sects (the ahmadiyya, Wahabbis/salafis, etc)....tweak... the english forms of the quran to support their own ideas.


And you are correct (sort of) about the Sunnah. Previously, the rulings derived from the Fiqh as Sunnah (lit Understandings of the Traditions) were the exclusive domain of highly trained faqih, who were usually clients of the (secretly) secular turkish government. Studying of Hadith is a very, very intensive science, you can't just go to whatever hadith book you want and pick out a hadith and say "Oh, here, we've got to subjugate all the believers". It doesn't work like that. But since the coming of al-albani, who wasn't trained in hadith sciences, the ghayr muqallid (salafis, wahabbis) etc think they have carte blanche to interpret the hadith however they see fit. This is a product of primarily the last 100 to 150 years.

However, the "Jihad on everybody" school has never been a part of mainstream orthodox thought. Even at-Tabari, the greatest exegete (and one of the earliest) of the Qur'an, stated that the ruling for obligatory, military jihad ended with the conquest of Makkah. The four schools of law in Islam also follow that ruling. Even the Shafi'i school, which is essentially ivory tower legalistic traditionalism, argues that simply manning border outposts on the borders of muslim and non muslim countries is enough to satisfy the "jihad requirement".


The Zaytuna institute out in california is a great place for information like this, and I've got some of their works on Jihad on another forum. I also have other works by orthodox ME scholars along the same line. Unfortunately, that website is currenlty down, but as soon as it is up I'll send you a link.


Some people have argued that the Zaytuna Inst.'s views on jihad aren't orthodox simply by dint of the fact that zaytuna is headed by an american convert/shaykh, Hamza Yusuf. This is a straw man, really, since Hamza spent the better part of 10 years studying with the most prominent shaykhs in the Gulf (UAE, Arabia, etc) and Northern Africa, using classical sources as learning materials.

[Kodos]

They are taught tolerance by their Koran:

109:6

unto you your religion, and unto me my religion

I have been looking through the Koran (in translation, of course) and cannot find where it says they have to behead unbelievers. There are other bits where they are told not to kill.
I think that the fault is not in the original Koran but in the way it has been used to brainwash the people; and there are also the sayings of Mohammed which are treated as gospel and I think these may include the jihad ideas - perhaps someone will enlighten me further on these points.

http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/hst/roman/TheDeclineandFallofTheRomanEmpire-5/chap11.html

In the state of nature, every man has a right to defend, by force of arms, his person and his possessions; to repel, or even to prevent, the violence of his enemies, and to extend his hostilities to a reasonable measure of satisfaction and retaliation. In the free society of the Arabs, the duties of subject and citizen imposed a feeble restraint; and Mahomet, in the exercise of a peaceful and benevolent mission, had been despoiled and banished by the injustice of his countrymen. The choice of an independent people had exalted the fugitive of Mecca to the rank of a sovereign; and he was invested with the just prerogative of forming alliances, and of waging offensive or defensive war. The imperfection of human rights was supplied and armed by the plenitude of divine power: the prophet of Medina assumed, in his new revelations, a fiercer and more sanguinary tone, which proves that his former moderation was the effect of weakness: the means of persuasion had been tried, the season of forbearance was elapsed, and he was now commanded to propagate his religion by the sword, to destroy the monuments of idolatry, and, without regarding the sanctity of days or months, to pursue the unbelieving nations of the earth.

[Walden]

http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/hst/roman/TheDeclineandFallofTheRomanEmpire-5/chap11.html

In the state of nature, every man has a right to defend, by force of arms, his person and his possessions; to repel, or even to prevent, the violence of his enemies, and to extend his hostilities to a reasonable measure of satisfaction and retaliation. In the free society of the Arabs, the duties of subject and citizen imposed a feeble restraint; and Mahomet, in the exercise of a peaceful and benevolent mission, had been despoiled and banished by the injustice of his countrymen. The choice of an independent people had exalted the fugitive of Mecca to the rank of a sovereign; and he was invested with the just prerogative of forming alliances, and of waging offensive or defensive war. The imperfection of human rights was supplied and armed by the plenitude of divine power: the prophet of Medina assumed, in his new revelations, a fiercer and more sanguinary tone, which proves that his former moderation was the effect of weakness: the means of persuasion had been tried, the season of forbearance was elapsed, and he was now commanded to propagate his religion by the sword, to destroy the monuments of idolatry, and, without regarding the sanctity of days or months, to pursue the unbelieving nations of the earth.


You aren't much of a historian if you endlessly quote gibbon and a few works of "historical fiction", weik.

Gibbon is still good for some purposes, but work is date and has been surpassed many times over by more recent works.


In any case, Gibbons ignorance of all but the most general of aspects of Muslim history is well known. The fact remains that the Muslims were sitting in Medina, happy with their own lives, when the Quraysh broke the treaty they had signed with the Muslims. It was only through carefully crafted alliances and forbearance that Muhammad was able to bring enough tribes into the fold to challenge the Quraysh, and conquer makkah. A conquest which was bloodless, may I remind you. As the Muslims marched in, Muhammad declared the sanctity of life and property of the people of Makkah first, without any demands for conversion or restitution of the property of the Muslims who had suffered during the embargos or emigrations. This amnesty even included the woman who had one of Muhammad's few remaining kin, and who tried to cannibalize the corpse.


If that isn't forbearance, I don't know what is.



Oh, and PS. THe catholic church wouldn't have done any different if the idols had been located in the vatican.

How do you think the pope would respond to find a shrine of zeus or some satanists altar inside the basilica of St. Peter?

[Donny the Punk]

Why has no one pointed out that all the signs are penned by the same hand?

[Ambrosio Spinola]

Why has no one pointed out that all the signs are penned by the same hand?

Meaning what exactly? That one can write better than the others? That perhaps all those demonstrators are iliterate and do not really know what they are carrying?


Welcome btw...:D :D

[Ace Rimmer]

What's the source of these photos? Lenny?

bump
Anyone ?

[Lenny]

What's the source of these photos? Lenny?The photos were taken at the February 3 2006 Muslim demonstration in London. I don't know who they were taken by, but that they are genuine can be verified by the fact that video of those exact demonstrators and their signs appeared on tv in the UK the day after..Kurzon Biggles mentioned seeing it on tv at the time in another thread

Here is a piece of a news story from Feb. 4 that mentions the exact same banners as are seen in the photos:
The dispute spread to London for the first time. More than 500 people, led by the extremist group al-Ghuraba, formerly al-Mujahiroun, marched to the Danish embassy in Knightsbridge carrying banners calling on Muslims to "massacre" those who insult Islam and chanting: "Britain, you will pay, 7/7 on its way." http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,,1702104,00.html

[brigadier Biggles]

lenny has returned this is a great day.