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Hartmann von Aue
05-04-2008, 06:14 AM
The woman's movement is a movement towards progressive national degeneration and ultimate national suicide.

http://books.google.com/books?id=NYIEAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA101&dq=sex+women&lr=&as_brr=1#PPA122,M1

Hartmann von Aue
05-04-2008, 06:19 AM
And the trend continues today, as women "do better and better" in "higher" education.

http://web.maths.unsw.edu.au/~jim/fert.pdf

Julian Curtis Lee
05-04-2008, 06:21 AM
This is exactly right, spot on, and right on.

Feminism = Out-of-Control Women Seeking Endless, Limitless, Desire Fulfillment.

Out-of-Control Women Seeking Endless Desire = Chaos and Cultural Destruction.

Hartmann von Aue
05-04-2008, 06:26 AM
Mentious, does the link on the book open up to Chapter 12 for you?

Sometimes I've had trouble with the google books links.

Julian Curtis Lee
05-04-2008, 08:16 AM
Yes it does.

Hartmann von Aue
05-04-2008, 10:21 AM
Superb polemical sally by the author's wife:

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/leondeponcins/feminism1-1.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/leondeponcins/feminism2.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/leondeponcins/feminism3.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/leondeponcins/feminism9.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/leondeponcins/feminism9a-1.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/leondeponcins/feminism9b-1.jpg

Petr
05-04-2008, 11:23 AM
Interesting.

This was written during the First World War - which was just the time when women first entered the industrial workforce en masse to keep the factories humming while men were away.


Petr

Hartmann von Aue
05-04-2008, 01:00 PM
http://i29.tinypic.com/2cwr21e.jpg

Texas CPS seems now to have suspended habeas corpus in the service of feminism.

http://i31.tinypic.com/tanhx3.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/16l0evo.jpg

Hartmann von Aue
05-04-2008, 01:22 PM
http://i27.tinypic.com/kbxiq.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/28s58bt.jpg

Petr
05-04-2008, 01:31 PM
Intriguing stuff indeed. Regarding "commercialism", others have also opined that conservatives made a huge strategic blunder when they hitched their wagon with unrestrained capitalism:


"Democracy requires virtue. So does a healthy capitalism. A nation that cannot govern its own appetites will, in time, be unable to govern itself."

"One of the worst of them is that for well over a century conservatism has been betraying the civilization it was supposed to preserve for thirty pieces of silver. Ever since the Civil War, American conservatism has been dominated by free-market economism, and absorbed in defending American capitalism from its enemies and critics: Marxists, agrarian agitators such as William Jennings Bryan, labor unions, Progressives, the New Deal, the Communists, intrusive government regulators, egalitarians, environmentalists, and anybody whose god is not his belly."

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24750&highlight=attarian


Petr

Petr
05-04-2008, 01:48 PM
This book can be found online here also:

http://www.archive.org/details/feminismitsfalla00martrich


Petr

Hartmann von Aue
05-04-2008, 02:31 PM
I have an old book on public speaking from the 40s, and interestingly enough, there is a passage in it that is very defensive of young women spending a large fraction of money on clothing. Interesting the feminist apologist of the day felt the need to defend frivolous spending habits.

"WITH ALL SHE EARNS ON HER BACK"

She puts all she earns on her back! This horrified criticism of the working girl breaks out every day. At least, unlike some of her critics, the working girl does earn her raiment. She doesn't chain some unsuspecting male to the galley and put all he earns on her back.

Deciding what other women can afford is pastime for women of leisure. But while these self-appointed reformers are working out to five decimal places what the working girl can afford, the working girl goes ahead and settles that problem for herself.

She is ready to put her shoulder to the wheel; but she insists that it will be a well-tailored shoulder. She will stand for a day's work that would prostrate her critic, but she refuses to stand for it in shabby shoes. Having no income from bonds with which to buy a wardrobe, she earns it herself. Having no maid to take care of it, she takes care of it herself - after hours.

She has won the battle in the war against poverty. She deserves to be decorated, and she sees to it that she is.

Boundless effrontery that is always displayed by the purveyors of excess, mixed with the smug condescension of the doctrinaire leftist.

President Barbicane
05-05-2008, 03:47 AM
I have not finished reading it yet, but so far it is an exceptionally interesting article. It really makes me think about a few things.

One of the things on my mind is that, although this man is ultimately correct, it does not matter; women don't take his argument seriously. For some reason, feminism or otherwise, women don't choose to have children, they choose to focus on school and their career. This is a choice they make, it is not mandatory. It must be related to culture in some way.

When I was in middle school, there was a Middle Eastern kid who lived down the block (I assume he was Muslim, although I'm not certain of that). He and his sister used to wait for the bus at the same stop as I. The thing is, midway through middle school (I guess either 7th or 8th grade), she stopped coming. She stayed home and did housework (I used to see her in front of their house doing housework). This action is perfect as far as fertility is concerned. Many western girls spend the first half of their most fertile years in school, and spend the last half building their careers. This Muslim girl, who I assume was going to be married very soon, spent her most fertile years building her family.

So it is possible to be fertile in America, but most people choose not to be. Why? I don't know.

Hartmann von Aue
05-05-2008, 04:36 AM
One of the things on my mind is that, although this man is ultimately correct, it does not matter; women don't take his argument seriously. For some reason, feminism or otherwise, women don't choose to have children, they choose to focus on school and their career. This is a choice they make, it is not mandatory. It must be related to culture in some way.

Well, with women, I don't think it ever comes down to arguments, even supposing that they would ever see criticism of conventional views on women pressed home like this.

My own thinking is that women want to feel belonging to the larger culture, and pick up cues as to what view is dominant. So whenever issues pertaining to feminism are discussed, they sense what the "in-crowd" wants. In the same way they pay attention to movie stars and fashion, they have a high degree of sensitivity to the attitudes of society at large and a desire to conform to them. Now fashion trends start at the top, among the upper classes, or at least among the people represented by the media as being in that class. On top of that, the intense overt support for feminism in the media and schools since the 60s ensures that even "conservative" "traditional-minded" women will often have many attitudes at variance with tradition.