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Petr
02-11-2006, 09:17 PM
Old-school Roman Catholics should be able to appreciate this viewpoint...

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/2211907.html


Childlessness A Sin, Southern Baptist Leader Says


Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, says it's "an absolute revolt against God's design" if husbands and wives purposely avoid bearing children.

On his Web site and other articles and interviews, Mohler argues that "marriage, sex and children are part of one package" and that "to deny any part of this wholeness is to reject God's intention in creation and his mandate revealed in the Bible."

In a CNN interview, the Baptist leader added, “We grow up by having children. Without that responsibility, we have a generation of perpetual adolescents just growing old."

Slavic Enforcer
02-11-2006, 09:26 PM
Baptists.. pffff

Jimbo Gomez
02-11-2006, 09:58 PM
I thought this was obvious for all Christians.

Berianidze
02-11-2006, 10:55 PM
It extends beyond Christians, although it wasn't viewed as a "sin" per se, when Nicolae Ceaucescu was president of Romania, he and Elena highly discouraged, and severely taxed those couples that didn't have children.

I must say I agree with this stance, albeit not as a "sin" for I have no religious conviction, but you get the point.

Péter
02-11-2006, 11:41 PM
It extends beyond Christians, although it wasn't viewed as a "sin" per se, when Nicolae Ceaucescu was president of Romania, he and Elena highly discouraged, and severely taxed those couples that didn't have children.

Had to breed out the Transylvanian Hungarians, huh?

Draco
02-12-2006, 12:00 AM
Isn't having children creating more sinners who should look forward to death to be with Jesus?

In fact, shouldn't all Christians wish to die as soon as possible to hang out with the big J?

Heimdall
02-12-2006, 01:08 AM
Love based marriage is a fairly modern idea. Love is probably a lot more flimsier a base than say reproduction, protection, financial benefit and forming alliances.

Vindex
02-12-2006, 01:48 PM
The problem with christianity is there is total denial of proper breeding lines, down breeding across Racial lines, retards breeding, higher breeding with lowers, is all kosher in there game of pretend Natures Laws are phoney. I bet if some one mentioned that higher quality Aryans should only breed with high quality Aryans, and the muds should cease all breeding and same with unter Whites. He would shit and rave in a spazed out frenzy like most christlings do.

Petr
02-12-2006, 02:51 PM
I bet if some one mentioned that higher quality Aryans should only breed with high quality Aryans, and the muds should cease all breeding and same with unter Whites.
How would you define "high quality Aryans", genius?


Petr

jcs
02-12-2006, 03:48 PM
It is a revolt against any and all designs to refrain from procreation, considering that act is precisely the purpose your genes have in mind for you. But has anyone bothered to consider that it might be a revolt against [whatever] to multiply too much? Does God want man to overpopulate and destroy the world He created?
It ought to be considered a sin to have more than one child, unless a given couple happens to have exceptional genetics.

Had to breed out the Transylvanian Hungarians, huh?
Transilvanian Hungarians...cold..soul
Your hands are cruel...to haunt..to haunt
lolololol

O'Zebedee
02-12-2006, 03:52 PM
How would you define "high quality Aryans", genius?
Petr

Ones that cook evenly on the barbeque.

Slavic Enforcer
02-12-2006, 03:52 PM
How would you define "high quality Aryans", genius?


Petr

I would also like to hear that.

I hope you'll not begin with the "All but Slavs" crap, AC.

Vindex
02-12-2006, 03:56 PM
Racial/Physical/smarts. They have to be a balance.



How would you define "high quality Aryans", genius?


Petr

Vindex
02-12-2006, 03:58 PM
Why Slavs are a branch of the Aryan Race, and at this time in history are probably the only closer to the model of our Ancestors.


I would also like to hear that.

I hope you'll not begin with the "All but Slavs" crap, AC.

Excorcism
02-12-2006, 04:56 PM
I wonder if it was God's intention that some women are not able to bear children.

Petr
02-12-2006, 05:03 PM
Racial/Physical/smarts. They have to be a balance.
A non-answer. Give us a more concrete and less tautological description.


Petr

Péter
02-12-2006, 05:04 PM
The Aryan race doesn't exist anymore--the original population has long since evolved into new populations, that is to say, distinct races.

But does this ultimately matter? Not at all. If the Aryan is held to be the ideal for a given race, then by all means, breed toward that ideal.


This means breeding populations that are:

physically superior
intellectually superior
AND (thought this is always forgotten)
morally superior.

YES, morality is biologically determined.

Vindex
02-12-2006, 05:43 PM
It should be common sense and not need a long description but for those lacking here is a summary.

Physical=Good health, natural beauty, good genes basically.
Racial=White, not 3/4 White.
Smarts=High intelligence, not a drooling moron.


A non-answer. Give us a more concrete and less tautological description.


Petr

benedict
02-12-2006, 05:51 PM
This means breeding populations that are:

physically superior
intellectually superior

And how exactly would this be done?

YES, morality is biologically determined.

Proof?

Péter
02-12-2006, 07:18 PM
And how exactly would this be done?

It isn't something that should be coerced, for it should be a commonsense attitude among anyone displaying such charactertistics to seek a mate that is their equivalent in such a regard.

Proof?

I am not speaking of absolutist morality, but an "heroic," "noble," "master," or "holistic" morality--any one of these labels will do, for they are essentially the same idea--by which one first knows what ought to be done in light of their particular situation and position, whether it be with respect to their caste or to the cosmos (though from a traditional mindset the two are inseparable) and then acts accordingly. Thus, a prerequiste for morality, according to my definition, is intelligence: one cannot act morally if one does not know what it is to do so. Similarly, one cannot be intelligent without being physically healthy. [A chain of causality has been established.] Therefore, the morality which I speak of--unlike a code of mere obedience, which anyone can follow--will rest upon intelligence, and as such, is biologically determined. "Proof," by which I am sure you mean some sort of statistics derived from empirical data, is unnecessary, unless of course you believe intelligence to be a result of purely environmental influence, in which case, I will not be able to take you seriously.

Slavic Enforcer
02-12-2006, 07:26 PM
People, take a look at the average Mongol..

And still they had an empire like nobody other.

Walden
02-12-2006, 07:32 PM
Isn't having children creating more sinners who should look forward to death to be with Jesus?

In fact, shouldn't all Christians wish to die as soon as possible to hang out with the big J?


You are thinking of the ancient christian heretical group the Donatists, once prominent in north africa. They held suicide to escape the world was a noble act, and actively sought death.



Of course, being heretics, the catholic church was only too happy to oblige them.

Vindex
02-12-2006, 09:30 PM
From what I have read of the Khan he was a red haired, grey eyed EuroAsian, and a lot of his nobles where very EuroAsians too. I once watched a movie flimed in the area the Khan came from and they used a lot of native actors and extras. The amount of White blood in some of them was supriseing.


People, take a look at the average Mongol..

And still they had an empire like nobody other.

Slavic Enforcer
02-12-2006, 09:33 PM
From what I have read of the Khan he was a red haired, grey eyed EuroAsian

I know that his grandmother was German.

Vindex
02-12-2006, 09:42 PM
I know that his grandmother was German.:confused:

Slavic Enforcer
02-12-2006, 09:46 PM
:confused:

I also couldn't believe it. :)

Draco
02-12-2006, 10:20 PM
You are thinking of the ancient christian heretical group the Donatists, once prominent in north africa. They held suicide to escape the world was a noble act, and actively sought death.



Of course, being heretics, the catholic church was only too happy to oblige them.

I'm thinking of modern Christians who declare an aversion to mortal Earthly life, yet persist in avoiding death through every scientific means possible.