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Niccolo and Donkey
07-10-2008, 11:32 PM
South Carolina Plans License Plate For Christians (http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/sclicense.plates/index.html)

CNN.com

Gary Tuchman

July 7, 2008


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COLUMBIA, South Carolina (CNN) -- Unless a federal court intervenes, South Carolina drivers may soon be able to profess their Christian faith with a state-issued license plate.

The state plans to issue plates featuring a Christian cross and the words "I Believe," but a group advocating the separation of church and state says that goes too far.

A similar design had been considered by Florida's lawmakers, but it was rejected there because of concerns over separation of church and state.

Americans United for Separation of Church and State, which includes Christian, Jewish and Hindu clergy, filed a federal lawsuit last month. The group contends that the plates violate the U.S. Constitution's prohibition against government favoring one religion over another religion or non-religion.

South Carolina became the first state to offer Christian car tags last month, when Gov. Mark Sanford allowed the bill to become law without his signature. The state legislature had passed it unanimously.

"I think it allows people of faith to profess that they believe in a higher calling, they believe in God," said Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer.

Bauer has offered to personally pay a $4,000 deposit required for the Department of Motor Vehicles to begin producing the plates. The fee would be returned to him later.

The Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said Bauer's willingness to pay the deposit "more deeply confirms this is a government-sponsored program."

"I don't believe that these license plates will ever be on any car in South Carolina, because I think our Constitutional claim is so strong," Lynn said.

South Carolina's legislature has not made a similar specialty plate available for any other faith, he said.

While individuals can ask the DMV to print plates for other faiths -- for a $4,000 fee -- the request would be subject to significant limits and rules not imposed for the Christian plate. Other tags could feature a religious symbol -- such as the Star of David -- but no words would be allowed.

The Christian plate will include the words "I Believe" and a bright-yellow cross on a multicolored stained glass church window.

Lynn's group said in a news release "that other religions will not be able to get similar license plates expressing differing viewpoints, nor can a comparable 'I Don't Believe' license plate be issued.

"The state has made believers of non-Christian faiths feel that they are second-class citizens," Lynn said. "Under our Constitution, that's impermissible."

Bauer said allowing Christians to have a specialty license plate is freedom of speech. He said those who oppose are prejudiced against Christians.

"We're not going to back down," Bauer said. "We're going to fight for a change. I'm tired of seeing Christians back down in fear of a lawsuit."

Bauer also said he is not afraid of a personal political backlash against him.

"If I were never to get elected or serve in another capacity because I pronounce my faith as a Christian, I don't have a problem with that," Bauer said.

Boleslaw
07-10-2008, 11:43 PM
The design is lame in of itself. I'd never put one on my car.

SSanguine
07-10-2008, 11:57 PM
I think it's a bad idea. South Carolina starts letting Christians have their own license plates and then you'll have all other religions wanting their own license plates too. Could start a very bad trend. They make bumper stickers for that sorta stuff.

Starr
07-11-2008, 01:39 AM
"The state has made believers of non-Christian faiths feel that they are second-class citizens," Lynn said. "Under our Constitution, that's impermissible."

Oh my heart bleeds for these whiners. If they were second class citizens they wouln't so often be able to cry like little babies and get their way at the expense of those of the majority faith. No one is forced to get these plates. Why does the freedom to practice and express one's religion always get lost in all of this? It applies in many of these cases.

Look, who has threatened to go to court over this. What else is new?

http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/may/22/cross_could_adorn_state_license_plates41799/

Marc Stern, general counsel for the New York-based American Jewish Congress, wrote Sanford a letter and urged him to veto the legislation creating the "I Believe" tag on the grounds that it is unconstitutional.

Stern said that if the bill becomes law, his group would be prepared to take South Carolina to court.

Amusing this next line from him:

There must be something more important to deal with in South Carolina," Stern said. "The Legislature wants to be on record saying that they like Christians."

Maybe he should answer his own thought about there being more important issues that they could be dealing with, rather than sticking it to Christians, once again?(of course, not many things are more important to them then the breakup of the dominance of white western traditional culture) What he probably means is "they should be concerning themselves with things we approve of and allowing us to have our way." It is people like him who are making this into a big deal not the other way around. It is a license plate. No jews are going to be shoved into an oven if the plates are approved. On the other hand people tend to get pissed about them sticking their nose in everything that does not concern them.:bbbat:

Barry Lynn is another highly annoying character. He is on television frequently always all worked up about the slightest display of Christianity. Reverend Barry Lynn. lol. There is really no good reason for these people to get all bent out of shape about this, Bauer is correct. These people have an animosity for the religion.

"We're not going to back down," Bauer said. "We're going to fight for a change. I'm tired of seeing Christians back down in fear of a lawsuit."

Hopefully these are not just hollow words. If his religion is important to him, they will not be.

Sorry, if it sounds like I am ranting a bit. That is not generally my style. But this subject tends to work me up a bit.

cyborg
07-11-2008, 03:38 AM
Since it'll probably be thrown out by the secular activist set, I'd say hessian plates are in order. Something with a guitar-axe and bloody devil head, or just plain black with a red pentagram. Hey, it's socio-cultural, not religious.

Hartmann von Aue
07-11-2008, 04:00 AM
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Zionists in uproar over Christian license plates (http://judicial-inc.biz/87christian_license_plates_cause.htm)

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Zionists in uproar over Christian license plates (http://judicial-inc.biz/87christian_license_plates_cause.htm)

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elbwgreez
07-11-2008, 04:12 AM
This looks great:

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SSanguine
07-11-2008, 04:25 AM
The WCOTC still exists? Hmmm

elbwgreez
07-11-2008, 06:32 AM
The WCOTC still exists? Hmmm

What's the difference? Other than the fact that WCOTC is superior as a religion?

SSanguine
07-11-2008, 06:53 AM
What's the difference? Other than the fact that WCOTC is superior as a religion?


To each his own.

Boleslaw
07-11-2008, 01:50 PM
Other than the fact that WCOTC is superior as a religion?

WCOTC is a mere butt-fucking joke compared to this truly superior religion:
SCot5L54-dE

Draco
07-12-2008, 07:57 PM
A Muslim crescent would be asking for harassment, especially from Southern patriotards, however Jews cannot have a Star of David plate; their paranoia wouldn't allow it despite said patriotards support and love of Israel.

SSanguine
07-12-2008, 08:14 PM
I think it's all stupid with how people are such fanatics. No matter what there will always be someone that doesn't like your Chirtstian/Catholic bumper sticks and fish, the my child is an honor student, the little guy peeing on car/religious symbols and names, wiccan symbols, and all of the above. I hate bumper stickers and all of the above. Your simply just asking to get your car keyed by some psycho idiot that doesn't like what you have to say or finds it to be offensive.

I don't care what you're religion or beliefs are so why do you have to piss people off by putting it on your car, no one even cares what state your from, the license plate is just a tracking number for police!

Isra'il Yahya
07-12-2008, 09:44 PM
Where's my Islamic license plate?