US and Norway To Share Personal Information

[cyborg]

Norway and the United States are about to sign an historic deal to share US security services will soon know more about the private lives of Norwegians.

The head of the Norwegian Data Inspectorate, Georg Apenes, says the USA has a limitless thirst for information about peoples private lives.

When the agreement is signed, all kinds of information, ranging from travel plans, e-mail addresses and mobile telephone numbers to web surfing habits, will be made available to American security services. The timing coincides with a similar deal between the EU and the United States.

The international powers (= "New World Order," "Big Brother," "Illuminati" u.s.w.) are currently concentrating their power and wealth while the system collapses under their weight. Much like the Lisbon treaty was the Orwellian move of the European Union to strengthen the West against the rest of the world, so is this Norwegian-American alliance part of a consolidation plan. Don't mistake this for Soviet-styled totalitarianism. Yes, it's privacy invasion big time, but what our leaders right now are trying to do is to contract the power range, making it easier and more effective to control the empire. It's a desperate move, partly spurred by paranoia from the Euroasian conflict, partly a way to homogenize the public (people often forget that the "war on terror" has a larger impact at home than it will ever have abroad, because it changes our worldview). We live in interesting times my friends.

http://www.corrupt.org/news/us_and_norway_to_share_personal_information

[delete]

Wow, the CIA must be really worried about those blue eyed, blond haired Nordic terrorists that we hear so much about.
I think you have it wrong.

It is us norwegians that wants to get hold of some of the information the US have. There are laws for what norwegian intelligence can gather of information on norwegian citizens, but there are no laws prohibiting what norwegian intelligence can gather on US citizens or more realistic, what the US can gather on norwegian citizens.

The US probably already got the information they want about norwegians, as there are so many norwegians in power that think giving the americans what they want is the best insurance the norwegians can get.


This guy was CIA for instance, and so are/were a lot of others with power.
7.2.4 Jens Christian Hauge

7.2.4.1 General.
Jens Christian Hauge, lawyer and politician (Labour) was born May 15th 1915 in Aker, Oslo. He graduated from University of Oslo in 1937. During the first part of the War,1940-1941, Hauge worked for the Price Control Police unit in Oslo. From Nov. 1942 part of the leadership of the Norwegian resistance movement "Milorg". Became Milorg's leader in 1944-45 and member of the HL (Home Leadership Group) headed by barrister Paal Berg. Hauge was appointed Secretary to Prime Minister Einar Gerhardsen in 1945. Minister (Secretary) of Defense Nov. 5th 1945 - Jan. 5th 1952. From Jan. 52 secretary to the Labour Party (AP) working with information services. Barrister 1954. Minister of Justice from Jan. 22nd 1955 until he left office on Nov. 1st 1955. Attorney in Oslo. Legal advisor to the Labour Party. Board Member of several State owned companies especially within nuclear power and defence systems. Chairman of DNL/SAS (The Norwegian part of Scandinavian Airlines System). Member of Board of Directors of Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk (Kongsberg/Toshiba), Chairman of Statoil 1972-75. Due to his position during and after the War Hauge was/is one of Norways most powerful individuals for more than 4 decades.

7.2.4.2 Industrialist, nuclear power and others.
Hauge was as member of the Board of Directors of Noratom A/S directly involved in the supply of "heavy water" to Israel for their nuclear development program. Protocolls from 1958 substantiates that the Norwegian Labour Government with Prime Minister Gerhardsen knew that Israel was going to use the water for Plutonium production making it possible for Israel to produce nuclear weapons. Noratom was also going to support Israel with reactor parts and technology.

Plans for a future Norwegian Defense Technology Research Institute (FFI) was initiated in 1944 and put into action in 1945/46 during Hauge's time as Minister of Defense. Institute for Atomic Energi (IFA) was established in 1948 supported by powerful people like Jens Chr. Hauge, Fredrick Møller, Gunnar Randers and Finn Lied. Møller, Randers and Lied were Directors of FFI. On June 9th 1949 Hauge managed to get the Parliaments approval of fundings for building a nuclear reactor at FFI and a program for rocket developmemt at Raufoss Ammunisjonsfabrikk (RA). Hauge and his nuclear lobbyists had great industrial power. In 1957/8 another reactor was constructed in Halden. Bjarne Hurlen was engaged by Hauge as Director for RA and Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk (KV). Noratom A/S was founded in 1957 with participation from RA, KV, Norsk Hydro and others. The purpose of Noratom was to commercialize nuclear technology. In 1959, 19 shipowners grouped together establising Rederiatom with the purpose of utilizing nuclear power in ship propulsion. One of them were Mosvolds Rederi. Hauge acted as board member and "legal advisor " for these and other state owned companies for years.
http://www.multinet.no/~falk/Falk7.2.4.htm

It was this guy that sold heavy water to Isreal, so that they could have their nuclear bomb.

[Kriger]

I don't understand how this would be of any benefit to Norway, delete. It's not like Norway is involved in numerous covert/espionage operations throughout the world.

And the US is only going to tell them what it wants to, anyway.

[delete]

I don't understand how this would be of any benefit to Norway, delete. It's not like Norway is involved in numerous covert/espionage operations throughout the world.

And the US is only going to tell them what it wants to, anyway.

Let's pretend the norwegian secret police wants some information on me. To get this they would have to ask a number of courts, present their case, etc. It is way easier just to ask the USA for this information, as they don't have any restrictions to what information they can accumulate about forreigners living abroad.

There is one other reason I can think of, but I am really not sure if I remember this correctly.

Anyway, there was some huge electronic surveilance stations that the americans have build on norwegian soil, where it was some public outrage that the norwegians did not have access to the whole of the information gathered. If the government threatened to close it down, the americans could have given in.

[Kriger]

A US fedgov intelligence command post in Norway. Now this gets even more intriguing. I can see where this would be of benefit to Norwegian secret police as a means to sidestep their own lengthy procedures to investigate those living in Norway. US fedgov, on the other hand, is not in the habit of doing these things just for something to do or to benefit the host country. There has to be reason/reasons that such an agreement is beneficial to fedgov also.

This would lead me to guess that it would have something to do with the growing immigrant population in Norway. Not so much the Poles, the Swedes, the Finns....but the Muslims.

Do you happen to know the current rate of Muslim immigration to Norway and from what countries?

[Felix the Cat]

US intelligence activities in Norway probably have more to do with Russia and the Arctic than with Muslims and terrorism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globus_II

[Jake Featherston]

US fedgov, on the other hand, is not in the habit of doing these things just for something to do or to benefit the host country. There has to be reason/reasons that such an agreement is beneficial to fedgov also.

Total Information Awareness.

They want information on people in Norway, they want information on people in Malaysia, they want information on people in Oregon. Most of the data is collected and correlated via electronic devices, and stored in supercomputers. In the old days, when humans had to do a lot of the manual work, operations like this were severely limited. Now that they can do it with software, antennas, and the like, by merely pushing some buttons, there's no reason for them to be conservative. As long as Congress appropriates sufficient funds, it'd be weird if they weren't doing this. That's the nature of the present regime, sadly.

[Kriger]

I can see where this would be done on a general principles basis. We all can relate to the fact that what is being said in a secretive manner is far more true than whatever is being produced for the public view. Fedgov does it all the time, and I am sure other governments and organizations do this also.

I am understanding that a good amount of information is being collected from fringe groups in other countries who are not so prone to taking precautions about what is being said behind the scenes.

Just wondering if delete had any more information available from Norway.