Extreme Anti-Semetism As A Leftover Mime

[Gorilla]

I say anti-semetism prior to WWII was of a somewhat different flavour to
post-Hitler antisemetism. An examination of the recorded evidence of
pre-Hitler antisemetism shows that antisemetism was of a rather more
religious sentiment, rather than the nazi variety.

A couple of questions:

#If the jews of Europe, the askenazim primarily, had places swapped with
say, turks would you agree that achieving widespread anti-turk sentiment
would have been the aim of the NS regime, in order to create a fully
German Germany, a state of the people, for the people, and not
foreigners?

#Do you believe there is specific characteristics of the jews that
warrant the hebrews being given special consideration?

#Is it judaism that warrants jews being given special consideration?

#Would you agree that the emphasis on the jews present in the posts of
the majority of web-racists is an attempt, almost a mime, or rain dance,
to 'bring back' some sort of copied nazi regime?

[Fade the Butcher]

I can see why Jews are so concerned about anti-Semitism. The anti-Semites would throw up barriers to Jewish interests, say, aid to Israel.

[Gorilla]

I can see why Jews are so concerned about anti-Semitism. The anti-Semites would throw up barriers to Jewish interests, say, aid to Israel.

Do you have any figures on the jewish population? Here's what I found:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi


Ashkenazi Jews, also known as Ashkenazic Jews or Ashkenazim (אַשְׁכֲּנָזִי אַשְׁכֲּנָזִים Standard Hebrew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Hebrew), Aškanazi, Aškanazim, Tiberian Hebrew (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberian_Hebrew), ʾAškănāzî, ʾAškănāzîm, pronounced sing. [ˌaʃkəˈnazi] pl. [ˌaʃkəˈnazim], not with [ʦ] as in Tzar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzar)), are Jews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew) descended from the medieval (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval) Jewish communities of the Rhineland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland). Many later migrated, largely eastward, forming communities in Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany), Poland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland), Austria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria), Eastern Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Europe) and elsewhere between the 10th (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Century) and 19th (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19th_Century) centuries. From medieval times until the mid-20th century, the lingua franca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingua_franca) among Ashkenazi Jews was Yiddish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language) or Slavic languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_languages) such as the (now extinct) Knaanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knaanic_language), and they developed a distinct culture and liturgy influenced by interaction with surrounding nations.
Although in the 11th century they comprised only 3% of the world's Jewish population (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population), Ashkenazi Jews accounted for (at their highest) 92% of the world's Jews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews) in 1931 and today make up approximately 80% of Jews worldwide. [5] (http://www.jcpa.org/dje/articles3/sephardic.htm) Most Jewish communities with extended histories in Europe are Ashkenazim, with the exception of those associated with the Mediterranean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean) region. A significant portion of the Jews who migrated from Europe to other continents in the past two centuries are Eastern Ashkenazim, particularly in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States).

With roughly 11 million askenazim, they are an issue worth addressing, especially the large hebrew population of new york. Come on Fade, you aren't suggesting new york is mutant central? :p

Search on 'askenazim ribs': http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=askenazi+ribs&meta=

What I found on a search on 'jewish freaks': http://mindviz.com/messages.php?id=12860&page=3


Yeah, I know. Christians are so weird. Almost as weird as those Jewish freaks. But luckily Hitler got rid of several million of them.

LOL, here's a little story:

I joined the army, and we went off to fight. Weikel shot itself left, right, and centre, so I joined in as well. High command got wind of this, and decided to give me a crucial mission. During the mission, after I dropped the bomb, I looked back through the rear of the cockpit. Four or six million jewish weikel died in the blast. After landing back at base, I got a medal. And then, after that, later that night, six billion died in another blast. It erupted from the eye of my pecker as I topped it off in bed. New mutations are recessive.

Of course, If you're not suggesting I'm jewish, ignore the above. ;)

Or if not: shot down in flames.

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[Gorilla]

Something specific to the jews I DO dislike is judaism, the root of the older variety of anti-semetism (goyim=cow):

http://www.nukeisrael.com/talmud.htm


Erubin 21b: Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Moed Kattan 17a : If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Non-Jews are Not Human. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals ("she-asses").
Sanhedrin 58b: Jews are Divine. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, THE GENTILE MUST BE KILLED. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.
Sanhedrin 57a: O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews. A Jew need not pay a Christian ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
Baba Kamma 37b: Jews Have Superior Legal Status. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Baba Mezia 24a: Jews May Steal from Non-Jews. If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a: God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
Sanhedrin 57a: JEWS MAY ROB AND KILL NON-JEWS. When a Jew murders a Christian ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b: Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Baba Kamma 113a: Jews May Lie to Non-Jews . JEWS MAY USE LIES ("subterfuges") TO CIRCUMVENT A GENTILE.
Yebamoth 98a: Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human. All Gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b: Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b: Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in Shabbath 104b it is stated in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud that Jesus' mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was? He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."
Sanhedrin 43a Jesus ("Yeshu" the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery.
Gittin 57a . Says Jesus is being boiled in "hot excrement".
Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"
Rosh Hashanah 17a . Christians ("minim") and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians. Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.
Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl. (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as that child is over nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b . When a older man has intercourse with a girl it is nothing because her virginity will grow back.
Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.
Hagigah 27a . States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Gittin 70a . The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."
Gittin 69b (p. 329). To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should "take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dogs excrement as it loosens the limbs."
Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.
Menahoth 43b-44a . A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a Gentile, a woman or a slave.
Shabbath 86a-86b . Because Jews are holy they do not have sex during the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can have sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it dark.
Gittin 57b . Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).
Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the Gentiles should all be killed"). This passage is not from the Soncino edition but is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).
On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was a disciple of the late Rabbi Kahane who has stated that his view of Arabs as "dogs" is "from the Talmud." (Cf. CBS "60 Minutes", "Kahane").
Univ. of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldsteins philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against "goyim," a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).

[OVERWATCH]

I have a hard time believing that the interpretations of talmudic verses are correct when they come from such sterling sources as nukeisrael.com.

Not to say that they are wholly incorrect, of course; but how are we to know, since the talmud has never been translated by an impartial source (or even by religious Jews themselves?)

[Gorilla]

In short, I believe that most historical anti-semetism was the result of judaism, and anti-foreigner sentiment, with jews being the largest minority of foreigners in Europe.