Not suprising

[MrAngry]

Here we have a forum that prides it's self on quality posting and free speech. There are sections dedicated to high brow discussion and sections where more colourful behaviour is permitted.

Yet, it appears a blind eye is turned when it suits the bias of the board, there are non whites who add quality discussion and views (and I'm not one I must add) to balance the prevailing ideology of the site and they can be insulted and flamed with little recourse it seems.

It's been stated a few times that this board is not racist or anti-racist, it's "free speech" well you could have fooled me. It shows that when confronted with people who do not fit the idealogical view of a racist they resort name calling, flaming and insults.
That's why racism loses every time, once reason is lost they revert to stereotype, I wonder how racialists feel about lumped together with this type of racism?

[Geist]

A critique of reason from the basis of emotion. Zing!

[Ahknaton]

A lot of posts containing extreme flames are indeed edited or deleted. The trouble is you don't see them once they have been removed, so you aren't aware of them. It would help if you drew attention to specific posts. In general a flame is less likely to be removed if a) it is not reported by anyone, and b) the flamee is giving as good as they get.

[MrAngry]

A critique of reason from the basis of emotion. Zing!

Zing wtf? :confused:

No emotion, I've just read a thread where Larrikin offers a scenario based on his take on the credit crisis. He asked for other opinions and alternatives to the bailout, he constantly stated that this was not his position but its was the only viable one that was apparent. He then asked what alternatives there could be.

Read the result......

I made a reply to a post by Starr, pretty innocuous, read the result.

Harjit started a light hearted thread regarding Larrikin... read the result.

I would call that reason from the basis of fact.

[delete]

Zing wtf? :confused:

No emotion, I've just read a thread where Larrikin offers a scenario based on his take on the credit crisis. He asked for other opinions and alternatives to the bailout, he constantly stated that this was not his position but its was the only viable one that was apparent. He then asked what alternatives there could be.

Read the result......

I made a reply to a post by Starr, pretty innocuous, read the result.

Harjit started a light hearted thread regarding Larrikin... read the result.

I would call that reason from the basis of fact.

Remember how long you played games with us. First it took a while before you admitted you were swarthy, then later on it turned out you were married to a jew.

Larrikin is just not credible posing as a mulatto, when his biggest interest seems to be the holocaust, just from the knowledge he has about the subject.

I have been wondering when the first one of these would show up, and it might just have been Larrikin.

Neues Promotionskolleg: Forschung an den Wurzeln des Extremismus

03.02.2003 - (idw) Technische Universität Chemnitz

18 Doktoranden forschen an der TU Chemnitz im neuen Promotionskolleg "Politischer Extremismus und Parteien".

Das Thema Extremismus sorgt immer wieder für Schlagzeilen. Von der rechten und der linken Seite des politischen Spektrums werden Beispiele dafür geliefert, dass Prinzipien wie Menschenrechte, Toleranz und politischer Pluralismus auch in einer Demokratie keineswegs unangefochten sind. Um dieses Thema wissenschaftlich tiefer zu ergründen, wurde im Fachgebiet Politikwissenschaft der Technischen Universität Chemnitz das Promotionskolleg "Politischer Extremismus und Parteien" eingerichtet. Bis zum 1. April 2003 gehören diesem Promotionskolleg, das von Prof. Dr. Eckhard Jesse betreut wird, insgesamt 18 Doktoranden an. Davon promovieren 16 in Chemnitz.

http://www.uni-protokolle.de/nachrichten/id/12603/

Chances are that there are more people studying this in germany, than members of the Phora, so one popping up here to get to test his hypothesis about extremists, is something that is bound to happen sooner or later.

[Winston]

Remember how long you played games with us. First it took a while before you admitted you were swarthy, then later on it turned out you were married to a jew.

Larrikin is just not credible posing as a mulatto, when his biggest interest seems to be the holocaust, just from the knowledge he has about the subject.

I have been wondering when the first one of these would show up, and it might just have been Larrikin.



Chances are that there are more people studying this in germany, than members of the Phora, so one popping up here to get to test his hypothesis about extremists, is something that is bound to happen sooner or later.

I've had my suspicions about him all along. What does that German text say?

[delete]

I've had my suspicions about him all along. What does that German text say?

It is just a random example to the resources now being invested into research about political extremism and racism in germany. Any google search will bring up a lot of research programes on these subjects.

18 Doktoranden forschen an der TU Chemnitz im neuen Promotionskolleg "Politischer Extremismus und Parteien". means something like "18 phd-students are researching on the Technical Univercity Cemnitz in the new program "political extremism and parties""

What is hard to find though, is research programmes about how the dumbing down of the population by importing self breeding obsolete farm equipment will impact our future societies.

[Basil Fawlty]

Zing wtf? :confused:

No emotion, I've just read a thread where Larrikin offers a scenario based on his take on the credit crisis. He asked for other opinions and alternatives to the bailout, he constantly stated that this was not his position but its was the only viable one that was apparent. He then asked what alternatives there could be.

Read the result...... And what is "the result"? I'm taking part in that thread and I've no idea what you're talking about.

[delete]

Here we have a forum that prides it's self on quality posting and free speech. There are sections dedicated to high brow discussion and sections where more colourful behaviour is permitted.

Yet, it appears a blind eye is turned when it suits the bias of the board, there are non whites who add quality discussion and views (and I'm not one I must add) to balance the prevailing ideology of the site and they can be insulted and flamed with little recourse it seems.

It's been stated a few times that this board is not racist or anti-racist, it's "free speech" well you could have fooled me. It shows that when confronted with people who do not fit the idealogical view of a racist they resort name calling, flaming and insults.
That's why racism loses every time, once reason is lost they revert to stereotype, I wonder how racialists feel about lumped together with this type of racism?

One more thing.

Why should racists or holocaust deniers who is used to getting banned, cencored, called names and gang up'ed on much worse that what Larrikin experience here, care if some words might hurt his feelings and self worth?

Don't you see how absurd it is to pretend that Larrikin might get hurt by what we say, unless people of the darker hues really takes offence at beeing looked down upon, and thus do have a different nature than whites?

Is it just self projection of me to think that you would not really take offence if I said I thought you were a brown piece of shit that should be sterilized. It is anyway what I have been called on numerous occations on other fora for defending the Nazis.

[Ahknaton]

FWIW, I think the words "nigger", "gook", "chink", "cracker" and "kike" should be banned from the Academy. I know this is a bit PC, but it's also about keeping a serious pretense of "high-brow" discussion. A lot of potential forum participants are probably turned off by those terms, and they just dumb down the discussion. At the very least I think it should be a given that addressing other forum members using these terms ought to be against the rules. I also think that endless speculation about the motives and "true identities" of forum members is a waste of time. If their arguments are unsound, why not simply point that out rather than attacking the person?

[Ahknaton]

One more thing.

Why should racists or holocaust deniers who is used to getting banned, cencored, called names and gang up'ed on much worse that what Larrikin experience here, care if some words might hurt his feelings and self worth?

Don't you see how absurd it is to pretend that Larrikin might get hurt by what we say, unless people of the darker hues really takes offence at beeing looked down upon, and thus do have a different nature than whites?

Is it just self projection of me to think that you would not really take offence if I said I thought you were a brown piece of shit that should be sterilized. It is anyway what I have been called on numerous occations on other fora for defending the Nazis.
Holocaust deniers and racists are not ganged up on and called names here at the Phora. There is no point allowing the reverse to happen here just to satisfy some desire for giving "them" a taste of their own medicine. Most of the non-racists who post here are not of that mold anyway, or they wouldn't register at the Phora. You seriously have no idea just how reasonable some of our forum regulars are in comparison to the raving Marxist PC-bots you can encounter on other fora. Why not return the favour and treat them with respect?

[delete]

Holocaust deniers and racists are not ganged up on and called names here at the Phora. There is no point allowing the reverse to happen here just to satisfy some desire for giving "them" a taste of their own medicine. Most of the non-racists who post here are not of that mold anyway, or they wouldn't register at the Phora. You seriously have no idea just how reasonable some of our forum regulars are in comparison to the raving Marxist PC-bots you can encounter on other fora. Why not return the favour and treat them with respect?

Have I become a one man gang here, one that harbour secret desires to gang up on people? :)

My point was that if you say something that a lot of people are oposed to at any fora, you will be ganged up on by the people who think you are wrong.

Go to a BMW forum and start talking trash about BMW's, and people most likely will gang up on you, and say that you are insane.

People in real life don't suffer mental anguish and goes home crying because people say hurtfull stuff on the internet, even though the jews classify it as a crime worse than violence.

[Kriger]

This is just another 'anti' whine and cry thread..

I think we treat the antis fairly well considering that they openly admit that their main reason for posting here is to irritate, antagonize, provoke, and make fun of "The Raaacizts", which means anyone who does not buy into their antiquated canards and whining and crying of the plight of poor blacks, or whatever their "cause" of the moment may be, which 99% of the time has to do with those poor poor downtrodden and oppressed blacks.

The antis are free to call us idiots, retards, inbreds, whatever suits them. And to laugh and mock our discussions with each other with their nonsense.

They can collectively grow up and handle life's unpleasantness like a man, or go home crying to their Mommas. I could really care less.

[OVERWATCH]

Yet, it appears a blind eye is turned when it suits the bias of the board, there are non whites who add quality discussion and views (and I'm not one I must add) to balance the prevailing ideology of the site and they can be insulted and flamed with little recourse it seems.


You're looking in from the outside through a peephole and thinking that you see the whole picture, when in reality your field of vision is quite narrow by nature of the peephole.

Reporting bad posts will almost always bring action- issuing a generalised and vague complaint will not.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

I don't like it when posters of races/ethnes other than White are insulted crudely here. It's just not civilized. It's the lower behavior of the anonymous persona. Whites should strive to be as noble and gracious as their Christian grandfathers. That will quickly give White racial pride and identity a good name.

[Scryllak]

It shows that when confronted with people who do not fit the idealogical view of a racist they resort name calling, flaming and insults.

It's annoying, and it's usually the same old suspects. The best advice I can give is just to spam the shit outta the "Report Bad Post" button. I do it even for minor ad homs now. Whether or not is does any good is a case-by-case issue, but adopting the spam strategy will hopefully cut down on some of the emotionalism and snide attitudes expressed by the grown children around here.

[MrAngry]

You're looking in from the outside through a peephole and thinking that you see the whole picture, when in reality your field of vision is quite narrow by nature of the peephole.

Reporting bad posts will almost always bring action- issuing a generalised and vague complaint will not.


Ok I accept what you're saying. It just sometimes feels that even when challenging a viewpoint that there are some who fall behind the easy accusation of self interest due to ethnicity rather than giving value to the view/opinion.

There's another forum for personal attacks and out and out flames. :)

[MrAngry]

I don't like it when posters of races/ethnes other than White are insulted crudely here. It's just not civilized. It's the lower behavior of the anonymous persona. Whites should strive to be as noble and gracious as their Christian grandfathers. That will quickly give White racial pride and identity a good name.

On some level I agree with you, ( never thought that would happen). But why not extend that beyond what you term "white"? I can actually accept people have white pride and white preferences in the same way that people may prefer blondes, curvy, skinny etc partners and people. What I don't understand is the pride at the detriment of another group.

[MrAngry]

Remember how long you played games with us. First it took a while before you admitted you were swarthy, then later on it turned out you were married to a jew.

I didn't play, I concede that I played to a stereotype in reaction to the same from the opposite viewpoint.
At that time I was wondering what relevance colour had to a debate.

Larrikin is just not credible posing as a mulatto, when his biggest interest seems to be the holocaust, just from the knowledge he has about the subject.

I have an interest in the holocaust, I read on the subject and have visited Auschwitz. So why couldn't Larrikin?

[MrAngry]

This is just another 'anti' whine and cry thread..

I think we treat the antis fairly well considering that they openly admit that their main reason for posting here is to irritate, antagonize, provoke, and make fun of "The Raaacizts", which means anyone who does not buy into their antiquated canards and whining and crying of the plight of poor blacks, or whatever their "cause" of the moment may be, which 99% of the time has to do with those poor poor downtrodden and oppressed blacks.

The antis are free to call us idiots, retards, inbreds, whatever suits them. And to laugh and mock our discussions with each other with their nonsense.

They can collectively grow up and handle life's unpleasantness like a man, or go home crying to their Mommas. I could really care less.

I'm going to be kind, but you seem to be taking more delight in antagonising and provoking non racists.

But you could take your own post and substitute it with the opposite racial viewpoint and it would fit you to a T. I, nor Harjit nor Larrikin have ever stated that blacks today are downtrodden and oppressed. In fact had you paid attention you would have seen that we readily accept that there are issues regarding blacks, but we also state that there are issues with all races too.

[delete]

I didn't play, I concede that I played to a stereotype in reaction to the same from the opposite viewpoint.
At that time I was wondering what relevance colour had to a debate.

Well I don't believe you, or else you would have had no problems saying it at once in public, since you sent privat messages to your partners in crime, telling them of your color.


I have an interest in the holocaust, I read on the subject and have visited Auschwitz. So why couldn't Larrikin?
I agree that it is a theorethical posibility, but is is just not probable.

Larrikin knows way more about the orthodoxy of holocaustianity than a lot of the heretics, but at the same time there is no way that he will concede even for a minute, that there is problems with the story we are served.

This is just not credible from a poster who is not playing games, since if you look at the other honest holocaust believers here on the Phora, like Ahknaton or Starr, they have no problems admitting that parts of the narrative we are solved is just to hard to swallow.

This should for instance be interesting for a mulatto with interests in judaism, but I have not seen Larrikin bring it up.

Jewish Origin of the Curse of Ham

The Hon. Min Louis Farrakhan dealt extensively with the Jewish origins of the Curse of Ham (or "Hamitic Myth") in his 2004 address entitled "Synagogue of Satan." We must understand that the very beginnings of racism and white supremacy are tied to this ingenious Jewish tall tale which has created so much mischief and caused the shedding of so much blood. It can be shown to be at the root in the justification of the slave trade and the displacement and murder of the American Indians. It was used to attack the Civil Rights Movement, to undermine abolitionism, to buttress the proslavery Confederacy, and was used as the instrument of control in Jim Crow.

This memorandum is the result of a cursory analysis of the state of academic discourse relating to the so-called Curse of Ham or Hamitic Myth. Please note that the arguments on this issue are detailed and voluminous and so our presentation here is, of necessity, an overview.

Discussion

The Hamitic Myth is derived from the Biblical story of Noah. Taken alone as presented in Genesis 9:21-27, the characters are without a racial or geographical identity. It is the later interpretation of this race/religion/nation-neutral parable which assigned the curse specifically to the Black race such that by 1460 the institution of slavery would be universally believed to be the lot of the Africans.


Jewish Origins

Evidence we have provided below locates the origin of these racist elaborations with the Jewish Babylonian Talmud. Dr. Harold Brackman is the strongest proponent of this theme but one finds a morass of argumentation centering around authenticity of sources, accuracy of translations, the use of pun, allegory, literalism, paucity of documentation, "ambiguities and complexities" of midrashic texts, etc., etc. Others appear to be positioning themselves for the impending firestorm over the claim that the Myth "played a relatively minor role" in slavery.

But even the most vociferous of the defenders of rabbinical honor, like David M. Goldenberg (in Cornel West's book), admit that the Talmudic rabbis had a "preference" for light skin and that their stories "see dark skin as a form of divine punishment". One author believes that the motive of the Talmudic rabbis in promoting their version of the Curse was to justify the ancient Hebrew enslavement of the Canaanites. What is not in dispute, however, is the ready acceptance of this racist construct by nearly every religious philosophy, culture and tradition on earth to justify their mistreatment of the Black race.

The Hamitic Myth itself has also taken on at least one other form in relation to Blackness (other versions have made Ham into a white man). Once Europeans saw evidence of the great African civilizations, they hastened to reinterpret the Hamitic Myth to suggest that the Hamites were in fact Europeans [!] who went into Africa bringing this civilization with them. This version of the Myth satisfied their academic needs--and was used when necessary by Jewish academics like C.G. Seligman among others. But, for the most part, their economic, social, religious, and political needs were met in the global promotion of the original rabbinical version.

Some argue that the Talmudic story is so miniscule--amounting to just a few sentences within a voluminous written tradition--that there is no way to claim it as the birthplace of Western racism and slavery. We would suggest that the story was quickly amplified in concert with the growing Jewish interest in the slave trade. At one time slavery was a profitable enterprise and all races were deemed fit for the role. We suspect that Africans soon became the worker of choice (just as the early American colonists found Blacks to be physically superior), and adjusted their supply to fit this demand. Rabbis, who as charities also benefited from the trade, willingly altered their racial interpretation of the Ham story to fit this economic imperative. Soon we find legendary Jewish scholars like Moses Maimonides, a man who The Encyclopedia of the Jewish Religion refers to as "the symbol of the pure and orthodox faith," spewing racist themes in his Guide to the Perplexed:

"[T]he Negroes found in the remote South, and those who resemble them from among them that are with us in these climes. The status of those is like that of irrational animals. To my mind they do not have the rank of men, but have among the beings a rank lower than the rank of man but higher than the rank of apes. For they have the external shape and lineaments of a man and a faculty of discernment that is superior to that of the apes."

http://www.blacksandjews.com/CurseofHam.html

[Kriger]

I'm going to be kind, but you seem to be taking more delight in antagonising and provoking non racists.

But you could take your own post and substitute it with the opposite racial viewpoint and it would fit you to a T. I, nor Harjit nor Larrikin have ever stated that blacks today are downtrodden and oppressed. In fact had you paid attention you would have seen that we readily accept that there are issues regarding blacks, but we also state that there are issues with all races too.

Then harp on the blacks.

[harjit]

Then harp on the blacks.
If there were black racists here, constantly putting down whites, of course we would oppose them in debate.

None of us harp, however, that is your area of competence (and pretty much the only one, from what I've seen).

[Kriger]

If there were black racists here, constantly putting down whites, of course we would oppose them in debate.

None of us harp, however, that is your area of competence (and pretty much the only one, from what I've seen).

Then go post at a black website. There are plenty available. There are many pro-White posters here, who have White folks discussions. You antis are the ones always interrupting with your out-dated canards and boring mantras.

None of you could ever stay put at Mootstormfront because not many here care what you antis think or don't think to put any time into posting there.

But back you always come for more, and go to whining and crying when your insults and mocking rudeness are returned to you.

Debate? What's to debate except for in your own Fantasyland? Antiquated canards and boring mantras?

When you people are not being so irritating and trying to be White, you are extremely amusing.

[harjit]

Then go post at a black website. There are plenty available. There are many pro-White posters here, who have White folks discussions. You antis are the ones always interrupting with your out-dated canards and boring mantras.
This board isn't a gathering place of WN types to have "White folks" discussions in peace and quiet. If you want that you should just screw off to Stormfront's restricted forums, or some other dedicated WN board.

And for someone who finds us boring you sure do react pretty angrily to us. Nor do you make much effort to rebut these "out-dated canards". I would think it would be very easy to do so, Shirtsie.

Rest assured, I'm not going anywhere and I'll be in your face as I see fit.

[Jimbo Gomez]

FWIW, I think the words "nigger", "gook", "chink", "cracker" and "kike" should be banned from the Academy. I know this is a bit PC, but it's also about keeping a serious pretense of "high-brow" discussion. A lot of potential forum participants are probably turned off by those terms, and they just dumb down the discussion. At the very least I think it should be a given that addressing other forum members using these terms ought to be against the rules. I also think that endless speculation about the motives and "true identities" of forum members is a waste of time. If their arguments are unsound, why not simply point that out rather than attacking the person?


Not a bad idea. I already edit thread titles which sound like that anyway. Whatever language people use in their posts doesn't matter as much, but if the threads already sound like they could come from niggermania, nobody who takes a look at our forum would bother to join.

[Jimbo Gomez]

Also, I would love to see an intelligent problack negro racist here. It would spice things up a bit.

[Kriger]

This board isn't a gathering place of WN types to have "White folks" discussions in peace and quiet. If you want that you should just screw off to Stormfront's restricted forums, or some other dedicated WN board.

And for someone who finds us boring you sure do react pretty angrily to us. Nor do you make much effort to rebut these "out-dated canards". I would think it would be very easy to do so, Shirtsie.

Rest assured, I'm not going anywhere and I'll be in your face as I see fit.

Then quit your whining and crying every time you get what you give.

[Kriger]

Also, I would love to see an intelligent problack negro racist here. It would spice things up a bit.

King Bedlam made some intelligent posts when he wasn't going on about the benefits and paradise of a One Mud World.

[MrAngry]

Then quit your whining and crying every time you get what you give.

Good grief man. can't you see that you're the one whining and moaning? If you don't like the company or dialogue of non whites then don't post to us. It's really that easy.

[Kriger]

Good grief man. can't you see that you're the one whining and moaning? If you don't like the company or dialogue of non whites then don't post to us. It's really that easy.

Good grief, man, can't you see that this thread is a typical whine and cry started by an anti-White about being able to say what you will about racists but racists can't give it back?

If you don't like it, quit jumping into racist discussions with your smarmy senseless questions and false accusations.

Or take what's given back. The option is yours. Quite frankly, I could care less what you think of me, or didn't you catch this the first 100 times I have said it?

[delete]

Or take what's given back. The option is yours. Quite frankly, I could care less what you think of me, or didn't you catch this the first 100 times I have said it?

I have come to the conclusion that this is one of the things that really separates north europeans from the rest.

We don't care if other people look down on us, call us names, etc, but there is every indication that most of the brown ones have issues here.

That it doesn't look like Larrikin care if we think he is an idiot, is for me yet one more indication that he is not really a mulatto.

[Kriger]

I have come to the conclusion that this is one of the things that really separates north europeans from the rest.

We don't care if other people look down on us, call us names, etc, but there is every indication that most of the brown ones have issues here.

That it doesn't look like Larrikin care if we think he is an idiot, is for me yet one more indication that he is not really a mulatto.

Yes, this does come through in their so-called 'debates'. What never ceases to amaze me is that the whole time they are attacking us, they want to be considered one of us. What is their problem that they cannot live their non-White life without trying to be one of us while at the same time trying to slander us with false accusations.

How weird is that?

[delete]

Yes, this does come through in their so-called 'debates'. What never ceases to amaze me is that the whole time they are attacking us, they want to be considered one of us. What is their problem that they cannot live their non-White life without trying to be one of us while at the same time trying to slander us with false accusations.

How weird is that?

It doesn't have to be so weird, if you think the the present population is the decendantes of yesterdays winners.

They most likely come from societies where it was not the fruits of your own labour that meant survival, but rather how other people wieved your social status.

[Basil Fawlty]

Good grief man. can't you see that you're the one whining and moaning? Ahem!Yet, it appears a blind eye is turned when it suits the bias of the board, there are non whites who add quality discussion and views (and I'm not one I must add) to balance the prevailing ideology of the site and they can be insulted and flamed with little recourse it seems.

It's been stated a few times that this board is not racist or anti-racist, it's "free speech" well you could have fooled me. It shows that when confronted with people who do not fit the idealogical view of a racist they resort name calling, flaming and insults.........

[MrAngry]

Ahem!........


Never said I wasn't having a moan, :whip:

[MrAngry]

Good grief, man, can't you see that this thread is a typical whine and cry started by an anti-White about being able to say what you will about racists but racists can't give it back?

You can and do, but it isn't always warranted and when it becomes your only recourse to debating non racists it becomes tedious. And you mae teh accusation that I am anti white, you are wrong, I am anti racism, simple as that.


If you don't like it, quit jumping into racist discussions with your smarmy senseless questions and false accusations.

Sauce and gander spring to mind. You seem to believe that the colour of your skin gives you superiority, it doesn't.


Or take what's given back. The option is yours. Quite frankly, I could care less what you think of me, or didn't you catch this the first 100 times I have said it?

If that is so then why do yo persist in making childish accusations against Larrikin and Harjit? Two posters who you could not label in the same ranks as myself....

[MrAngry]

Yes, this does come through in their so-called 'debates'. What never ceases to amaze me is that the whole time they are attacking us, they want to be considered one of us. What is their problem that they cannot live their non-White life without trying to be one of us while at the same time trying to slander us with false accusations.

How weird is that?


Take a good look through the content of this site, a great deal (not all), is devoted to whining about non white behaviour, victim mentality at it's best. I can link many many examples if you wish. Remember, this site is not exclusive to racists, or so I am led to believe, those type of sites do exist I can provide links too.

[Kriger]

Obviously you non-Whites are incapable of seeing how ignorant you are.