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02-23-2006, 09:23 PM
http://au.news.yahoo.com/060223/2/y0ss.html

Treasurer Peter Costello says people who come to live in Australia should show loyalty to its values.

Mr Costello reiterated comments he made on Thursday night - which have been criticised by Muslim community leaders - that people wishing to live under other value systems should go elsewhere.



In a speech to the Sydney Institute, the treasurer said people who wanted to live under Islamic sharia law should move to a country where they would feel "more at ease".

He said anyone not prepared to accept Australian values, and who had citizenship of another country, should not remain an Australian citizen.

Mr Costello said more demands should be made of people wanting to become Australian citizens.

He said Australia was a wonderful country, able to absorb people from all over the world - as long as there was agreement on certain rules.

New citizens must agree to abide by Australian laws, and not seek to live under non-Australian value systems such as sharia law, and have a love for and loyalty to the country, he said.

"We have got to a stage where we have allowed Australian citizenship to become undemanding," he told the Nine Network.

"New arrivals are told you don't have to give up anything, you don't have to give up love of other countries, we don't ask anything of you. We will confer Australian citizenship on you. And I say 'No, that is not right actually'.

"Australian citizenship is a great privilege and to take it out we do demand things, we demand a love of this country and a loyalty to it.

"We demand a respect for its values and I think by emphasising the obligations of citizenship, making it a more demanding thing, then we will develop more respect for it."

He said if someone could not honestly make the citizenship pledge, they could not honestly take out citizenship.

"If they have taken it out already, they should not be able to keep it where they have citizenship in some other country," he said.

Keysar Trad, president of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, accused the treasurer of promoting division and Islamophobia in his speech to the Sydney Institute.

He said he genuinely hoped Prime Minister John Howard would censure Mr Costello.

"We have not asked for sharia law to be imposed," he told ABC radio.

"I don't know anyone in this country who is asking for sharia law to be imposed and I don't know anyone in this country who has rejected the rule of law.

"I am genuinely hopeful that the prime minister will censure the treasurer over these ridiculous comments, that the treasurer is grossly out of line.

"Rather than try to promote understanding and harmony in this society, his comments are highly divisive and he is stirring up Islamophobia, and these comments should really be beneath any decent politician."

But, Mr Costello stood his ground.

He said his point was that those entering a mosque would be required to take off their shoes as mark of respect.

"If you don't want to take your shoes off, don't go into a mosque. If you want to come into Australia, you will be asked to have respect for its values," he said.

"If you don't have respect for those values, don't ask to come into Australia.

"This is what we ask of people. We have to preserve a way of life which makes us the greatest country in the world."

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02-23-2006, 09:25 PM
Blue moons do come about after all - I actually agree with something said by Mr Costello. Who'd have thunk it?

If one actually analyses what has been said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. The "shoes in the mosque" analogy is flawless.

Anarch
02-24-2006, 12:54 AM
LOL and what is 'Australian'?

Generator
02-24-2006, 01:08 AM
LOL and what is 'Australian'?
Regardless of how you define it, the point is still pretty clear: if you intend to take an antagonistic stance against a nation that grants you citizenship within its borders, then that nation has the right (or more correctly, obligation) to deny you such a privilege.

This doesn't negate the basic right of critique of one's gubernatorial institutions, but it does frame any such right within its logical bounds.

Felix the Cat
02-24-2006, 10:20 AM
How does a society which accepts large scale immigration protect itself against marranos?

ie. against people self-disciplined enough to conceal their hostility until they achieve political power?

Ahknaton
02-24-2006, 10:25 AM
You can't be "loyal" to something you never believed in in the first place.

"Loyality" assumes some pre-existing affiliation with a set of beliefs or a group of people, neither of which Muslim immigrants to Australia have with respect to either Australian values or extant Australian citizens.

raven
02-24-2006, 03:03 PM
How does a society which accepts large scale immigration protect itself against marranos?

ie. against people self-disciplined enough to conceal their hostility until they achieve political power?
I don't think this is the best analogy. Many of these marranos were assimilated and lost all knowledge of their jewish ancestry (there are still some but they are a tiny minority). However when it comes to say lebanese muslims, they look completely different from europeans so there is no comparison.