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Trojan
02-24-2006, 08:49 PM
I'm curious if any revisionists on this site support this accusation.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2712472#post2712472



The Red Cross documents at Arolsen prove that only 52,000 died at Auschwtiz.

I think this dispells the Jew Rothschild lie that was needed to create the oil state known today as Israel.

After all Rothschild founded Israel with his first few 1905 colonies, right at the time he was shipping his oil tankers through the Suez loaded with oil and kerosene for Asia.

Rothschild's Shell Oil (then Royal Dutch Oil) owned most of the Russian (then Crimea, as in Crimean War) oil fields.


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Originally Posted by Celtic_Patriot
Auschwitz only killed 52,000. Look at the facts.

http://judicial-inc.biz/Auschwitz.htm

Original Red Cross document.




Now we all know the Jews lie and make up stuff. It appears the Jews lied about the fake "holohoax" as well.

Just look at the facts.

What Auschwitz was is a large complex of factories. 40 factories were based there, forcing the Jews to sew German uniforms - this of course upset the Jews, as they don't like to work.

See, it was a giant factory complex where the Jews had to work, many for the first times in their lives, which really was a good thing.

Auschwitz was the site of Germany's newest and most technologically advanced synthetic rubber plant; and Germany was the world's leader in this particular field of technology. Shortly after the war the Germans were cut off from their supply of natural rubber. So they built the factory complex of Aushwitz.




In the months that followed they set about building Germany's synthetic rubber plants.




Auschwitz was a major work camp that had forty different industries. The true reason for the existence of the Auschwitz camp is revealed in these little shown pictures of the industrial complex which surrounded the camp - most of it within full view of the interior of the camp itself.

Want more information? Check it out for yourself: http://judicial-inc.biz/Auschwitz.htm



Above, The Monowitz industrial complex, where most of Auschwitz's inmates were put to work in a variety of heavy industries, ranging from rubber manufacture, medical supplies, armaments and, as illustrated in the picture clothing.

This photograph shows the tailor's workshop at Auschwitz 1, where prisoners would make up clothing for use by the German army.



How Jews hate to work. I think it was good for them.

Please visit this informative site: http://judicial-inc.biz/Auschwitz.htm


The Rothschilds cooked up the Holocaust to create Israel and have the British white troops fight for it, sympathy for the American public has involved us in continual wars there to make sure Israel gets it's oil.

52,000 deaths at Auschwitz: Tragedy of Allied Bombing Must Be Remembered

Still, 52,000 deaths from hard work as Auschwitz is alot and we should recognize them as a terrible tragedy. After all 52,000 deaths is an awful lot.

We must sanctify and remember the 52,000 deaths. War and the Allied bombing was terrible. If only the Allies of Britain and the US did not bomb the railroad tracks carrying the food to all places in Germany, then the tragic deaths of the Jews in Auschwitz would have been avoided.

The Holocaust was about getting the Arab oil, history has now revealled. The "Holocaust" never happened. 52,000 jews died at Auschwitz and 240,000 Jews in all the work camps, but not six million. Still it was a tragedy, like WW II was, but it was no "Holocaust". The Jew Media lie has been exposed and the nice Jews can now bury their dead and save on the "donations" to the nearest temple.


Peace & Truth...



...Is Honoring Those Who Died

Nothing Infuriates the Ugly Jew Mind More Than Being Confronted With Beauty

To Claim that Six Million Died When 240,000 Really Did,
is a Crime Against Humanity,

...and it's Bloodthirsty..
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wintermute
02-24-2006, 09:16 PM
http://www.heretical.com/miscella/rudolf.html


Official German Record of Prisoners in Auschwitz Concentration Camp, May 1940 through December 1944

Dr. Germar Rudolf



These statistics concerning prisoners in Auschwitz camp purport to be taken directly from Soviet archive material, now available on microfilm from the former Soviet Central Archives. Also, a good deal of corroborative material from the German Archives concerning the German State Railways has been located in the German State Archives (Bundesarchiv) and utilized. The railroad was responsible for the transportation of inmates to and from concentration camps and these figures from the Russian files are accurately reflected in the Reichsbahn documents.

Another avenue for confirmation exists in the wartime radio intercepts which are known to have been made. British wartime intelligence was eavesdropping on the radio traffic as Auschwitz (and other camps) sent regular reports to the relevant government department in Berlin. These messages were either in plain text or a low-level encrypt and consisted of lists of numbers corresponding to the various prisoner categories.

The following derives from the prisoner records of Auschwitz camp from May 1940 through December 1944 in the Glücks complete Concentration Camp microfilm records now located in the Russian Central Archives, Central State Archives No. 187603, Rolls 281-286, as follows:

Roll 281, 1940: Frames 107-869
Roll 282, 1940-41: Frames 001-875
Roll 283, 1941-42: Frames 001-872
Roll 284 1942-43: Frames 003-862
Roll 285, 1943-44: Frames 019-852
Roll 286, 1945: Frames 001-329.


The Russian microfilms cover all of the concentration camp records from 1935-1945 and the Auschwitz records were compiled from these. Note, however, that each months reportage covers all the camps and there is no such thing as an "Auschwitz file" or a "Bergen-Belsen" or "Mauthausen file." The Auschwitz material is included in, let us say, the July 1942 file along with other camp entries and compilations.






Table 1: Non-Jewish Prisoners Entering Auschwitz
1940 1941 1942 1943 1944

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January – 1691 843 9474 1767
February – 1339 1508 4065 1052
March – 221 1071 15618 573
April – 4051 1817 7346 5971
May 70 1793 1881 4868 2097
June 1225 731 2583 3368 1412
July 147 1925 3493 4942 1368
August 1156 473 3106 5282 6890
September 1873 785 1628 4531 4604
October 471 7191 2952 8179 674
November 637 1215 2507 3676 1854
December 1190 1217 3172 4961 1251

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TOTALS 6769 22632 26561 76310 29513


Total non-Jews in Auschwitz, 1940-1944: 161,785





Table 2: Jewish Prisoners Entering Auschwitz 1941-1944
1941 1942 1943 1944

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January – 1166 6076 1445
February – 6762 2507 1299
March – 1000 9037 1178
April – 3004 5054 3175
May – 9736 2453 18927
June – 3518 2520 8438
July 171 3419 4201 12924
August – 5990 13382 12705
September – 4146 7990 2126
October – 4742 1624 1177
November 1 – 3921 –
December 6 – 7180 –

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TOTALS 178 43483 65945 63394


Total Jews in Auschwitz, 1941-1944: 173,000
Total number of inmates in Auschwitz, 1940-1944: 334,785





Table 3: Total Typhus Deaths in Auschwitz, 1941-1944
1941 1942 1943 1944

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January – 1776 2123 2801
February – 1515 2979 1933
March – 3018 4604 2321
April – 1392 2835 1771
May – 2911 2378 981
June – 3688 2980 1575
July – 4124 3438 1121
August – 4968 2633 1847
September – 1497 2901 3313
October 2128 6092 3549 3095
November 5084 103 4621 927
December 2585 1023 4679 120

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TOTALS 9797 32107 39720 21805


Total deaths by typhus in Auschwitz, 1941-1944: 103,429





Table 4: Jewish Typhus Deaths in Auschwitz, 1942-1944
1942 1943 1944

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January 875 1502 1429
February 906 1729 876
March 1789 3981 1312
April 875 895 632
May 1991 1721 407
June 2406 1990 884
July 3090 2017 455
August 3271 968 1129
September 919 1803 1871
October 4789 2705 1294
November 29 3219 927
December 621 2842 91

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TOTALS 21561 25372 11307


Total Jewish deaths by typhus in Auschwitz, 1942-1944: 58,240
Total non-Jewish deaths by typhus in Auschwitz, 1941-1944: 45,189





Table 5: Deaths by natural causes (other than typhus) in Auschwitz, 1940-1944
1940 1941 1942 1943 1944

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January – 142 120 103 120
February – 175 77 221 191
March – 165 42 198 178
April – 9 39 89 167
May 6 47 23 62 155
June 23 19 21 56 151
July 15 5 16 31 98
August 35 11 5 38 65
September 9 23 19 96 54
October 21 2 25 102 67
November 34 39 49 235 94
December 30 48 61 197 17

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TOTALS 173 685 497 1428 1357


Deaths by natural causes (other than typhus), 1940-1944: 4,140





Table 6: Deaths by natural causes (other than typhus), Jews, Auschwitz, 1941-1944
1941 1942 1943 1944

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January – 62 62 98
February – 39 117 127
March – 32 120 111
April – 26 43 140
May – 11 37 90
June – 5 41 107
July – 9 16 49
August – 1 24 32
September – 11 61 41
October – 19 81 39
November – 37 104 81
December 7 48 130 6

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TOTALS 7 300 836 921


Total Jewish deaths by natural causes (other than typhus), 1941-1944: 2,064





Table 7: Transfers from Auschwitz, 1940-1944
1940 1941 1942 1943 1944

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January – 657 – – 612
February – 8 196 – 2060
March – – 275 3001 881
April – 1002 158 1024 2500
May – 36 423 – 7923
June – 4 1845 – 9228
July – – 753 – 15628
August – – – 3195 8957
September – – – 600 9091
October 11 – – 4544 33244
November – – – 3500 8309
December – – – 333 1455

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TOTALS 11 1707 3650 16197 99888


Total transferred from Auschwitz, 1940-1944: 121,453





Table 8: Transfers of Jews from Auschwitz, 1941-1944
1941 1942 1943 1944

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January 271 – – 409
February – 120 – 1843
March – 37 1572 410
April 459 30 630 1927
May 17 112 – 7540
June – 873 – 8109
July – 120 – 13765
August – – 2871 7501
September – – 395 8502
October – – 3201 28509
November – – 3264 7322
December – – 173 761

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TOTALS 747 1292 12106 86598


Total number of Jews transferred from Auschwitz, 1941-1944: 100,743





Table 9: Administrative Executions at Auschwitz, 1940-1944
1940 1941 1942 1943 1944

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Nov 22 40 Poles Jan 3 1 Pole
July 3 80 Poles
Aug 1 1 Jew
Nov 14 151 Poles
Dec 1 1 Pole
Dec 20 5 Poles
Jan 24 1 Russian
Apr 3 11 Poles
May 27 150 Poles
May 28 1 Jew
June 4 3 Jews
June 9 3 Jews
June 10 13 Poles
June 11 3 Jews
June 12 60 Poles, 2 Jews
June 13 6 Jews
June 15 200 Poles
June 16 2 Poles, 2 Jews
June 18 8 Jews
June 19 50 Poles, 4 Jews
June 20 4 Czechs
June 22 4 Jews
June 23 3 Jews
June 25 3 Jews
June 26 40 Poles, 1 Jew
June 27 4 Jews
June 29 2 Poles, 3 Jews
July 1 15 Jews
July 2 9 Jews
July 14 10 Poles, 2 Jews
July 16 9 Poles
July 20 50 Poles
July 23 2 Jews
July 29 14 Poles
Aug 11 11 Jews
Aug 13 1 Pole
Aug 18 60 Poles
Aug 21 57 Poles
Sept 5 1 Jew
Sept 25 3 Poles
Nov 9 3 Poles
Nov 14 1 Pole
Nov 17 1 Pole
Dec 4 9 Poles, 2 Russians
Jan 6 9 Poles, 5 Jews
Jan 14 6 Poles
Jan 25 22 Poles
Jan 26 7 Poles, 2 Jews
Feb 7 2 Poles
Feb 9 2 Poles, 1 Jew
Feb 13 16 Poles
Feb 19 11 Poles, 3 Jews
Mar 17 1 Pole
Apr 3 26 Poles
Apr 13 2 Gypsies
May 22 13 Poles, 6 Jews, 5 Gypsies
May 31 1 Gypsy
June 10 20 Poles
June 25 68 Poles
June 28 30 Poles
July 24 1 Pole
July 28 4 Poles
Aug 20 38 Poles
Sept 4 45 Poles, 8 Russians
Sept 21 2 Poles
Sept 28 9 Poles, 6 Jews, 12 Gypsies, 1 Czech
Oct 11 54 Poles
Nov 9 50 Poles
Feb 1 19 Poles, 8 Russians
Mar 24 4 Poles, 3 Jews
Sept 15 2 Poles


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40 Poles 238 Poles, 1 Jew 746 Poles, 90 Jews, 3 Russians, 4 Czechs 436 Poles, 23 Jews, 8 Russians, 1 Czech, 20 Gypsies 25 Poles, 3 Jews, 8 Russians


Total Poles executed: 1,485
Total Jews executed: 117
Total Russians executed: 19
Total Czechs executed: 5
Total Gypsies executed: 20


Total number of inmates executed: 1,646





Table 10: Hungarian Jews sent to, and transferred from, Auschwitz, May-October 1944
IN OUT

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May 8548 2963
June 3981 5934
July 6543 9630
August 3881 1500
September 163 1300
October 1 200

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TOTALS 23117 21527


Hungarian Jews remaining in Auschwitz after October 1944: 1,590
Note: The number of Hungarian Jews claimed sent to Auschwitz during May-October 1944 in Lucy Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, New York (1975) is 450,000; in Raul Hilberg, The Destruction of the European Jews, New York (1985) it is 180,000.






Summary of Jewish prisoners in the Auschwitz camp system, 1941-1944
IN OUT

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Jewish prisoners entering the Auschwitz camp system 173000
Jewish prisoners who died of typhus 58240
Jewish prisoners who died of natural causes 2064
Jewish prisoners executed 117
Jewish prisoners transferred to other camps 100743

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TOTALS 173000 161164


Number of Jewish prisoners remaining at end of 1944: 11,836 plus admissions during November and December 1944




These statistics have been collected and compiled by several people, based on microfilm copies of the original records supplied by Germar Rudolf before his arrest in America and extradition to Germany. There he will face trial for challenging the State's Holocaust dogma. The contributors to this page have agreed that credit should be given to Rudolf who, however, is not responsible for any errors in transcription or interpretation.

Figures for some months are unavailable and the summaries given include only the known numbers. In particular, it is not known whether the " – " entries represent zero or the statistic is missing.

When the SS evacuated the Auschwitz work camp complex on 15 January 1945, they left a large number of prisoners behind. Many of these were too old or too sick to travel and they were left in their barracks, guarded by a Polish militia that had been raised earlier by Hans Frank. With the approach of the Soviet army in early 1945, these Polish guards indiscriminately attacked the barracks, with the prisoners inside, using hand grenades and machine guns.

The violent animosity of the Catholic Poles to their huge Jewish community is well known. When the Russians invaded Poland, one of the greatest fears of the Polish leadership and the government was that the 500,000 Jewish residents of Warsaw's Nalevski district would rise up against them in support of the advancing Bolshevik armies. Many Polish Jews fled after the failure of the Russian attack and a number of those left behind were promptly slaughtered by Poles when the central government collapsed after the German invasion of 1939.

Although exact figures of the dead among the remaining Auschwitz inmates in 1945 are not available, several existing Soviet military reports put the death toll between 7,000 and 10,000. Former members of the Polish militia have subsequently claimed that many of the dead were shot down by Russian troops as they attempted to leave the liberated camp. The Russians did not like Jews either, remembering their savagery against them during the salad days of Josef Stalin.

The truth of the matter will probably never be known but at least this atrocity cannot be blamed on the Germans, who were hundreds of miles away at the time.

Trojan
02-24-2006, 09:23 PM
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=96187

Try more like 12,000 daily - 117 jews executed. :rofl:

No wonder Germar is awaiting trial, that piece alone is criminal.

BTW - his sworn testimony before the US INS judge directly contradicts the writing site above.

wintermute
02-24-2006, 09:55 PM
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=96187

Try more like 12,000 daily - 117 jews executed.

No wonder Germar is awaiting trial, that piece alone is criminal.

BTW - his sworn testimony before the US INS judge directly contradicts the writing site above.



Impressive, Trojan - you quote figures from a site where no argumentation on the topic is allowed:



http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=53962

B. Holocaust Denial

Holocaust denial is not permitted by the second rule of this forum. The policy, and the reasons for it, may be seen at:

A note on denial

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=10881

The essential aspects of the holocaust are well-known. They have been established through more than fifty years of court proceedings in a large number of countries. ( who arrest scholars who do not arrive at the correct conclusions)The evidence consists of eyewitness testimony from victims and bystanders (of steaming, drowning, bicycle operated brain bashing, electrocution, geysers of blood, and - lest we forget, the holy of holies - the "gas chambers"), the confessions and admissions of perpetrators (extracted under torture and offers of leniency at an illegal hearing), photographs (of typhus victims who could not be supplied with food or medicine on account of British saturation carpet bombing), an abundance of documents (Anne Frank's ball point pen diary, Jerzy Kosinski's delusional blathering, innumerable faked 'memoirs', and so forth), physical evidence (of human beings made into soap, margarine, and lampshades), forensic studies (of gassing victims? I don't think so) and judicial findings (see above, re: torture and supression of free speech).

[. . .]

Nonconforming posts are subject to deletion without warning. Serious breaches of these rules are punishable by banning the poster.

Just reading the rules posted above, it's easy to imagine them being painted by Squealer on the broad side of the barn, his little hooves teetering on the ladder's rungs.

So you - like other Exterminationists - rely on echo chambers where dissent is forbidden to learn the 'facts' regarding the 'Holocaust'. I'm sort of like you in this way, Trojan - I learned all my 'facts' about 'Batman' from DC comics. At least they take some care with continuity.

I wish I could be there when your parents fess up about all the "forensic evidence" regarding Santa Claus. We must all learn to crawl before we walk.

Wintermute

Trojan
02-24-2006, 10:12 PM
Impressive, Trojan - you quote figures from a site where no argumentation on the topic is allowed:


Which in no way diminshes the value or truth of the information provided. I can post it on RODOH, which allows full debate, if it easies your conflicts.


http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=53962



Just reading the rules posted above, it's easy to imagine them being painted by Squealer on the broad side of the barn, his little hooves teetering on the ladder's rungs.


Wake me up when you get to something important.
:rolleyes:



So you - like other Exterminationists - rely on echo chambers where dissent is forbidden to learn the 'facts' regarding the 'Holocaust'. I'm sort of like you in this way, Trojan - I learned all my 'facts' about 'Batman' from DC comics. At least they take some care with continuity.

I wish I could be there when your parents fess up about all the "forensic evidence" regarding Santa Claus. We must all learn to crawl before we walk.

Wintermute

Ad Hominem


BTW - if that's your picture on your avitar :222: :222:

Trojan
02-24-2006, 10:37 PM
Wintermute

Same information at RODOH

http://p102.ezboard.com/frodohforumfrm10.showMessage?topicID=1004.topic

Does this make it more credible?

Stanley
02-25-2006, 04:44 AM
I read your link, Trojan.

People killed in one report by a liquid, in another by a powder. 1.2 million Jews killed in the space of two months.

Ovens that burn 3 corpses at a time in 5-10 minutes, while flames shoot 50 feet from the chimneys and fill the camp with the smell of burning flesh. Children and old people thrown alive into the ovens.

Guards encouraged to kill inmates whenever they wanted to.

Sonderkommando conscripted at the beginning of the month, and executed at its end. All the while they are in communication with the rest of the camp, so everyone knows what is going on.

POWs beaten to death with sticks.

I could go on and on. That you take this nonsense seriously, that you think it proves anything, reveals a lot about the Believer mentality.

Trojan
02-25-2006, 05:04 AM
Revisionist mentality:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=251814

What Auschwitz was is a large complex of factories. 40 factories were based there, forcing the Jews to sew German uniforms - this of course upset the Jews, as they don't like to work.

See, it was a giant factory complex where the Jews had to work, many for the first times in their lives, which really was a good thing.

How Jews hate to work. I think it was good for them.

Seeing a picture of a Flower and beautiful, truthful words....really upsets the Jews, we can count on it every time to really rile them up and get them trying to post here.

We must sanctify and remember the 52,000 deaths. War and the Allied bombing was terrible. If only the Allies of Britain and the US did not bomb the railroad tracks carrying the food to all places in Germany, then the tragic deaths of the Jews in Auschwitz would have been avoided.

Stanley
02-25-2006, 05:30 AM
I intended this as an afterthought, but since you replied to me, consider it my parting shot. I won't discuss this issue with you again.

Reading the work of Holocaust believers reminds me of the attempts by Christians to assert that the Bible is literally true.

Sulla the Dictator
02-25-2006, 10:55 AM
Reading the work of Holocaust believers reminds me of the attempts by Christians to assert that the Bible is literally true.

:rolleyes: He says as he runs out the door, rubbing his Holocaust denial prayer beads and looking furtively to the tattoo of Zundel on his forearm with tears in his eyes.

cerberus
02-25-2006, 12:12 PM
I don't what Sulla and Trojan are disputing , surely they must know by now that " Jewwatch" and "Germar" / "Rudolf" are recognised " Holocaust Historians" and unlike "Court Historians" their figures must be correct and competely above board.:rolleyes:

Children and old people
Perhaps you believe (like Basil) that the children and old people went to work for "IG" Fraben.
Can you tell me where the children and elderly went to ?

Trojan
02-25-2006, 02:55 PM
I intended this as an afterthought, but since you replied to me, consider it my parting shot. I won't discuss this issue with you again.

Reading the work of Holocaust believers reminds me of the attempts by Christians to assert that the Bible is literally true.

Was it all just a bad dream? :rolleyes:

Donny the Punk
02-25-2006, 06:55 PM
Keep the Faith fellow revisionists. The Nazis and the SS were the good guys--but the anti-Nazis and the anti-revisionists dare not admit it for fear of losing their fabulous, ill gotten gains from the war.
“Hoaxbuster” Friedrich Paul Berg on the Codoh discussion forum.
http://www.codoh.org/dcforum/DCForumID9/143.html#10

Hm, link seems to be dead now.

Stanley
02-26-2006, 06:26 AM
Enough, enough!

You guys have convinced me. The gas chambers were real -- as real as the steam chambers and the electrified conveyor belts. The Germans were responsible for the Katyn massacre. We know that because the Communists told us so, and the Communists never lie.

Empress Cheesatine
02-26-2006, 09:31 AM
Reading the work of Holocaust believers reminds me of the attempts by Christians to assert that the Bible is literally true.

Actually that's a pretty good comparison. Upon closer inspection you see that both are full of holes and self-contradictions.

Trojan
02-26-2006, 04:22 PM
Enough, enough!

You guys have convinced me. The gas chambers were real -- as real as the steam chambers and the electrified conveyor belts. The Germans were responsible for the Katyn massacre. We know that because the Communists told us so, and the Communists never lie.

I thought we already had your parting shot.

Basil Fawlty
02-26-2006, 08:41 PM
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=96187

Try more like 12,000 daily - 117 jews executed. :rofl:

No wonder Germar is awaiting trial, that piece alone is criminal.

BTW - his sworn testimony before the US INS judge directly contradicts the writing site above.Just a point of information - the main source you are alluding to there is Danuta Czech Kallendarium, yes?

cerberus
02-26-2006, 08:58 PM
The 117 no doubt being the "legal" executions , and the only executions carried out by the SS at Auschwitz.:rolleyes:

Sulla the Dictator
02-26-2006, 11:19 PM
Just a point of information - the main source you are alluding to there is Danuta Czech Kallendarium, yes?

What do you think about that 117 people executed at Auschwitz, Basil?

Trojan
02-27-2006, 08:51 PM
Just a point of information - the main source you are alluding to there is Danuta Czech Kallendarium, yes?

The source was I was referring to was Romanov's interpretation of Soviet records. The documents and such speak for themselves.

Basil Fawlty
02-27-2006, 09:02 PM
The source was I was referring to was Romanov's interpretation of Soviet records.Sergei Romanov's interpretations are not a source of anything except Sergeio Romanov's interpretations. Leaving that aside however. The documents and such speak for themselves.in this case they certainly do - look at the bottom of them - NKGB. Just a quick scan shows some significant variation - contradiction - with other statements. Here's one I plucked out:
Groups of doomed persons are brought in automobiles on the territory of crematorium, they're lined up in a column and an examination is performed - whether anyone has gold teeth or other valuables. Those found to have gold teeth or gold in other places, are directed to the "surgical rooms", where the gold teeth or other compounds are pulled out. Elsewhere we are told they are marched there, and the gold tooth pulling operation happens after death, not before it!

Or this dreary old set of impossible claims trundled out yet again:
Into each muffle 3-4 corpses are introduced simultaneously. After kindling, duration of the cremation of a batch of corpses is 5 to 10 minutes, later the burning time is shortened. Crematoria work at full capacity twenty-four hours and anyway fail to burn all corpses.

cerberus
02-28-2006, 12:58 PM
You mean like people died of natural causes.
The Goverment of the day acted in a responsible , leagl and moral way ?
The Goverment of the day cannot be held in anyway responsible for any deaths which occurred in Auschwitz or any other camp ?
The dead shown in photographs were killed by the Allies ?
The food supply broke down ?
The goods and property which came with the prisoners , was simply "recycled" , it was " all legal".
There were no gas chambers ?
( David Irving changed his mind , I take it you have not read the Eichmann papers ?:p . Never mind he wil change his mind again in a few years.:p )
The surivors all told lies or didn't know what happened to them ?
No one died by being gassed ?
All sick prisoners recieved medical treatment ?
They used the swimming pool and sports fields ?
They didn'y come to Auschwitz in cattle trucks ?
They were all resettled in the east ?
Hitler knew nothing about any killings ?
Himmler exceeded his authority ?
Bodies could not be burnt in a purpose built creas. ?
All the suriving records which mention mass murder are all lies produced post war ?
There were no mass shootings in the east carried out under SS direction ?
The Reinhart camps killed only lice ?
It was illegal to kill prisoners ?
Children , mothers and elderly went to family camps ?
There were no medical experiements carried out on prisoners ?
Dr Mengele was a nice man ?
Slave labour was not criminal ?
No one was worked to death ?
Several million people just disappeared ?
The gurads and SS who said it did happen are liars?
The prisoners who saw it happen are liars?
Local people who saw people murdered are liars ?
The records are all lies ?
All confessions are lies ?
The Aliies did much worse ?
No one knew what was happening?
Everyone in a concentration camp deserved to be there as an enemy of the State ?
No one made money oout this catalogue of human misery ?
All the surivors are now rich , as are there cousins , uncles , aunts , sisters nephews brothers sons etc , etc , etc.


Only what springs to mind in 3 minutes odd.

Same old same old, aye tell me something new .

Trojan
02-28-2006, 01:14 PM
Yeah, I think you about covered it. :cool:

Basil Fawlty
02-28-2006, 01:37 PM
Which all conveniently avoids dealing with the substance of the Romanov submission, as usual.

Trojan
02-28-2006, 10:43 PM
Which all conveniently avoids dealing with the substance of the Romanov submission, as usual.

Then I suggest you take it up with the author of the translations. Do you need his e-mail?

Basil Fawlty
02-28-2006, 10:55 PM
Then I suggest you take it up with the author of the translations. Do you need his e-mail?The translations are not the problem - see the two examples I plucked out above.

eggheadbanga
03-03-2006, 11:41 PM
so how does it feel to be the new leader of the Liberal Democrats in Britain, Ming?:D