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Königin Luise von Preußen
10-24-2008, 09:24 AM
WHY WE CHANT: ZA DOM - SPREMNI!



Croats are a phenomenal footballing nation, evidenced by remarkable
triumphs and memorable victories on the pitch. We all remember France
'98 and the glorious march to a tremendous third place finish for a
national team that represents approximately 7 million people
worldwide. The statistics can be astonishing and at the same time -
redundant. Over and over again the narrative goes: A small nation
numbering just a few million takes the world stage and proves that,
although tiny in number, it ranks among the soccer giants. It
belongs. We will never forget the trouncings of Germany at major
tournaments, and the elimination of the "hated" English in European
Qualifying. Equally so, we will not soon forget the stunning defeat
suffered against Turkey at Euro 2008. Football, or soccer, however
you wish to call it, is a social phenomenon in and of itself, and few
nations take as much pride in their soccer the way Croats do. This is
so for various reasons, but the most important being that Croats were
for decades compensating for the lack of an established independent
state with a promotion of their identity and heritage by different
means. Whether in Melbourne or Sydney (Croats are responsible for the
rise of Australian soccer), New York or Toronto, Croatian soccer clubs
sprouted and flourished internationally, all during an era marked by
Yugo-communist occupation, oppression and captivity in the homeland.
Many Croats born in the diaspora have since donned the checkered
jersey (Simunic, Rakitic, Kovac brothers), uniting the diaspora and
the homeland at what times appears the only way possible: By
representing the national side. It must never be forgotten, the Croat
name has survived in the diaspora, while, sadly, much like today, it
is being erased in the homeland.



A GOVERNMENT REMOVED FROM THE PEOPLE

It has been said: A government removed from the people is the most
dangerous government. Leaders and political parties serve themselves
and themselves only. They are supposed to serve the people, whom they
represent, and who elected them to power. This has for too long not
been the case in Croatia. The government exists to protect national
interests and promote national values. However, the Croatian
government serves itself and its foreign masters. Point in case, had
the Croatian government, personified by Ivo Sanader, had the interests
of its people and its constituency in heart and mind, General Ante
Gotovina would have never been caught and extradited to the ICTY in
the Hague. Yes, many will say that it was the Spanish police, having
apprehended Gotovina, that shipped him to the Hague. But it was
Sanader, collaborating with President Mesic and his Yugoslav clique
-not only with the supposed Croatian security services, but with
intelligence agencies of foreign governments- that enacted the "action
plan" to tighten the ring around the famed General, resulting in his,
as Vladimir Seks had proudly declared: "location, identification,
apprehension and extradition." Had the country's president, Stjepan
Mesic, had his people's interests in mind, he would have never
testified against Croatia's national interests in front of a
politically-charged and anti-Croatian court. He would not have, after
assuming power, opened Tudjman's archives and allowed BBC "reporters"
and other members of foreign agencies rifle through and steal Croatian
state secrets: Documents that were thereafter ripped from context and
reassembled in a way to defame the nation's first president, and, more
importantly, to prove that Croatia was founded by way of "criminal
enterprise."



GENERAL ZAGOREC, MESIC, MURDER & MEDIA COMPLICITY

Ivana Hodak, a beautiful 26-year old Croatian woman, daughter of a
high-profile Zagreb lawyer, Zvonimir Hodak, and an ex-vice president
of Croatian Government, Ljerka Mintas-Hodak, was recently shot to
death in the center of Croatia's capital, Zagreb. Ivana's father,
Zvonimir Hodak, is General Vladimir Zagorec's attorney. Zagorec was
recently, just days before Ivana's murder, returned to Croatia from
Austria, where he is now being detained waiting to stand trial for the
charge of stealing jewels from the Croatian Defense Ministry which he
once worked for. Zagorec was Croatia's main arms dealer at the height
of war, responsible for arming the fledgling nation by way of the
black market during an unjust arms embargo brought by the United
Nations against all former republics of ex-Yugoslavia. Lest we
forget, at that time, Budimir Loncar (Stjepan Mesic's current top
foreign policy advisor) was Yugoslavia's representative at the UN,
responsible for the ushering of that very same arms embargo that left
Croatia weaponless. It was Sasa Perkovic, son of the notorious UDB-a
murderer Josip Perkovic, that a year ago, by order of his boss,
Stjepan Mesic, met with General Zagorec in Austria in hopes of
brokering a deal. Zagorec, as evidenced by the video (secretly shot)
of the meeting, was to "rat out" President Tudjman and many other
high-ranking members of Croatian government from the war years. All
in exchange for amnesty. Who is Sasa Perkovic? Stjepan Mesic's top
domestic policy advisor. Do presidents of democratic nations usually
order their top advisors to sit down with fugitives to broker
political deals in lieu of the Croatian Justice system? This is a
question that is never asked by Croatian state TV, the Jutarnji
List/Globus/Slobodna Dalmacija or Nacional anti-Croat media hydrant
that dominates in Croatia today. The media, of course, works
hand-in-hand with the criminals that rule in Croatia today. Will
Ivana's murderers ever be found and brought to justice? Probably not.
The reason? It would most likely result in the total unraveling and
collapse of the Croatian government, riddled with recycled communists
and Yugoslav Secret Police agents that have not and will not stop at
anything to keep power.



THE GLOBAL THOUGHT POLICE & ITS SYCOPHANTS IN CROATIA

It was decided years ago by the elites in Croatia that any opposition
to their rule and to their politics (an ugly display of treason and
undying loyalty to foreign masters), ICTY cooperation & submission to
EU diktat - all in hopes of entrance to the star-studded club- would
be dubbed as Croat "extremism," "fascism" & "populism." There simply
is no place for patriotism on the political plane, and all expressions
of it would be first denounced, then by political and legal means,
removed from official Croatian society. Once again, the media has
played its perverse role of polarizing the small nation on old
controversies and recycled accounts of "history" with which the
Yugoslav lunatics saturate the papers, TV and radiowaves. Once this
was accomplished, any hope of challenging the criminal elites was
neutralized. The populace, tired & bitter, carrying on with false
polemics and false dilemmas, cannot generate a critical mass to
challenge its rulers. The sycophants in the public arena relentlessly
drum-up propaganda and controversies, distracting the people, while
the elites steal, cheat and kill. After the media prepared the way
for the destruction of the Domovinski rat, resulting in the jailing
and extradition of Croat war heroes, they focused their efforts on
one-sided discussion about WWII, "controversial" Croatian history and
constant barrage against anything that breathes Croatian. The
Croatian identity is under siege. If you follow the media in Croatia,
you should have noticed a perpetual Yugoslav/Global/International/Balkan world-view
that smacks of theworst kind of Belgrade-sponsored propaganda we wrongly thought we had
defeated. Only this time, the stink emanates from Croatia's capital,
Zagreb. Where else in the world can a "journalist" named Denis Latin,
paid with Croatian tax Kuna, use his Monday night, prime-time program
as a platform aimed at the destruction of anything Croatian - all on
Croatian state television?! Nowhere else, except Belgrade, where
every year he is honored with awards for "journalistic excellence."
Latin & his "Latinica" are only the tip of the iceberg, for the media,
through and through, are littered with foreign agent-provocateurs.

The latest false dilemma drummed up by the media in Croatia concerns
the chant of Croat soccer fans world-wide. That cry is: ZA DOM -
SPREMNI! Don't be a fool and fall into the trap set-up by these
gangsters. Do not waste your time on discussions of just who coined
that salute, when it was used, why it was used, and what exactly it
means. The salute is self-explanatory, and at the same time, one of
the most beautiful verbal expressions of patriotism ever thought of in
history. Today, more than ever, it is shouted by patriots. Croatian
soccer fans, now falsely labeled "fascists" by the sycophants and the
political scum, are the elites' new target. The latest reports from
Zagreb say the Interior Ministry will be dealing with the, oh, let's
see, 50,000 people that shout Za Dom Spremni at Croatian national
soccer matches. Can anyone remember the last time Croats were
apprehended, jailed and fined for using patriotic salutes? That's
right, during communist Yugoslavia. Let us never forget that many
Croat patriots, both in '41 & '91, gave their lives for Croatian
freedom with that very salute on their lips. Always keep them in your
thoughts when you chant: ZA DOM - SPREMNI! And always remember that
under that salute Croatia was founded, and Yugoslavia destroyed.

-Frano Budimlic
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Königin Luise von Preußen
10-24-2008, 10:06 AM
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Dinamo Zagreb vs. Crvena Zvezda 13.05.1990
This video shows how did Maksimir look on 13 May 1990. That day, Delije (fans of Crvena Zvezda) started to demolish the south stand of Maksimir stadium, and after few minutes they attacked few spectators who came only to watch the game. Police did nothing. When Bad Blue Boys - Dinamo Zagreb supporters, saw that, they broke the fence on the north and east stand and tried to save those people in south. But serbian police, which was in that time in Zagreb, protected serbs, so they attacked us. The riot started 30 minutes before the match, and it was the beginning of defending Croatia. Few months later, serbs atacked our country and Croatian War for Independence started...

Dinamo Zagreb vs. Crvena Zvezda Beograd 13.05.1990.

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Dinamo Zagreb Croatia - Partizan Belgrade Serbia 5:0
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30.7.1997. 1st qualifing round UEFA Champions League 1997./98., 2nd game
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Referees: Gilles Veissiere, Lakhdar Benchabane & Jacques Clavet (France)



Boris Novković & Dino Dvornik - Malo nas je al nas ima..
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Macrobius
10-24-2008, 01:59 PM
I believe in Rhetoric this is called writing in a 'falling' style:


Croats are a phenomenal ... nation, evidenced by remarkable
triumphs and memorable victories .... We all remember France
'98 and the glorious march ... that represents approximately 7 million people
worldwide. The statistics can be astonishing and at the same time -
redundant. Over and over again the narrative goes: A small nation
numbering just a few million takes the world stage and proves that,
although tiny in number, it ranks among the soccer giants.


Well, that maybe, or perhaps dice and cards.

Königin Luise von Preußen
10-24-2008, 02:16 PM
I believe in Rhetoric this is called writing in a 'falling' style:



Well, that maybe, or perhaps dice and cards.thank you for your opinion, although this sub-forum is like an archive.. under "Sabornica" or "KlubBrkatihZena" it would be more suitable to chat about..

it is in English mostly because of half of the Croatian population lives abroad - (most of them since the 70ies) due to some reason. it is not only about football, but about the pride being a serious and recognised "newcomer" in the Big-world of football/socker - just like an phoenix out of the ashes due to aggression-war from Serbo-Chetnik-JNA-genocide.. like a beginning part.. in the first paragraph.. the videos are to store that moments, just before the war..
..and in the latter this article is about other explicit Croatian issues in particular..

I am sorry, my English is not good enough to explain or argument.. Also I am very subjective about Croatian people and the recent war..