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RuneX2
10-27-2008, 12:51 AM
Swedes cool towards ethnic diversity
Greater numbers of Swedes are expressing hostility towards ethnic diversity, according to a new study.
According to the annual diversity barometer carried out by researchers at Uppsala University, the percentage of the Swedish population with extremely negative attitudes toward ethnic diversity has increased by 50 percent since 2005.
“The extremely negative attitudes are increasing, and we believe it’s in line with what’s happening in Europe. It’s not only older, but also younger who are negative,” said Orlando Mella, a sociology professor from Uppsala University, to the Dagens Nyheter (DN) newspaper.
However, Mella added that in comparison to the rest of Europe, Sweden is generally quite positive toward diversity.
Overall, 5.7 percent of the population in Sweden indicated they have extremely negative attitudes toward diversity, up from 3.8 percent in 2005.
Among men, the instance of negative attitudes has increased from 5.3 to 7.5 percent since 2005.
Unexpectedly, however, the prevalence of negative attitudes toward ethnic diversity among Swedish women has nearly doubled from 2.3 percent to 4.1 percent.
“It’s surprising for us that there are more women in the group [expressing negative attitudes]; that’s not something we expected. Swedish women tend to be quite positive toward diversity,” said Mella.
Despite the growth of unfavourable views towards diversity in Sweden, Mella believes the country is better equipped to integrate immigrant groups than other European countries and that public perceptions of social exclusion among immigrants in Sweden is exaggerated.
“The large number of immigrants are on the way to or currently are being integrated,” she said.
Nevertheless, Mella said that continued growth in the number of Swedes expressing hostility toward ethnic diversity has the potential to affect Swedes’ attitudes more widely, noting that rising unemployment presents a challenge for politicians.
“But we should remember that there aren’t deep ethnic conflicts in Sweden like there are in France or Great Britain,” she said.Swedes cool towards ethnic diversity (http://www.thelocal.se/15198/20081024/)
RuneX2
10-27-2008, 12:53 AM
One-third of Swedes want to live in gated communities: study
One in three Swedes wants to live in a gated community which prohibits unauthorized people from entering, a new study shows.
Most interested in the security provided by such living situations are young singles, of which 41 percent reported wanting to live someplace surrounded by fences or requiring a door code for entry.
Meanwhile, only 26 percent of families with small children said they desired the additional security measures.
The study also reported that less than one fourth of the survey’s respondents – 23 percent – want to live in areas which feature cultural, ethnic, and social diversity.
The results come from a report entitled BoTrender 08 (‘Living Tends ’08’) carried out by the Tyréns Temaplan consulting company and based on responses gathered in August from 5,000 Swedes aged 18- to 70-years-old who live in apartments or are considering living in apartments in the future.
“I don’t think that those who answered the study were thinking of barbed wire, high walls, and guards, but rather a more secluded area with checks on who enters,” said Tyréns Temaplan’s Mia Wahlström to the Svenska Dadbladet newspaper.
Göran Cars, a professor of urban studies at the Royal Institute of Technology (KTH), said the study shows people place a high value on safety and security when it comes to where they live, but expresses his reservations about what a proliferation of gated communities might mean for Sweden.
“I would consider it deeply tragic of there was a propagation of gated communities. That would mean my city would lose some of its appeal; its diversity of people and activities. The city’s services would become impoverished and it would lose its international competitiveness,” he told SvD.
Pointing to trends in the United States, a country in which gated communities have become increasingly popular, Cars added that the trend can actually result in public places becoming less safe.
He believes that society has a choice to make when it comes to dealing with rising rates of crime and violence.
“On the one hand, we can accept the increase violence and insecurity. Then everyone who can afford to will choose to live in protected area. On the other hand, we can vigorously combat the violence and abuse which damages our security and safety by giving police and social services more resources,” he said.One-third of Swedes want to live in gated communities: study (http://www.thelocal.se/15200/20081024/)
Kriger
10-27-2008, 03:07 AM
Well, it stands to reason that once a peaceful people with proper values gets first-hand exposure to the more violent prone cultures with lesser values, there is going to be a different view on the "benefits" of diversity....especially when the minorities are given preferential treatment and the host culture is supposed to put up with the increased crime and other related problems that come with foreign cultures being brought into the society.
The particular problems would be those immigrants whose very nature or religion is in direct conflict with the host culture. These ones can never successfully integrate due to the fact that they will neither give up their religion nor will correct their own inherently violent behaviour.
If giving police and social services more resources were the answer, the USA would not have the continued and escalating problems that it has. We can't even get the blacks to behave themselves and do something productive with their lives, and alot of money, programs, and resources have been allocated to them over the years, especially the last forty or so.
One would think that the governmental leaders would take a good look at the history of race and cultural "assimilation" in the USA and use it for a model of what approaches to the problems do not work.
Well, I guess there are some things we all learn the hard way, and some never learn at all.
Julian Curtis Lee
10-27-2008, 05:40 AM
Swedish intelligence, Swedish awakening, Swedish pride.
Kriger
10-27-2008, 05:56 AM
Swedish intelligence, Swedish awakening, Swedish pride.
I agree, Mentious. Government leaders need to start listening to their people and not the insanity of the prevailing politics of the world.
shanemac
10-27-2008, 06:12 AM
Swedes cool towards ethnic diversity (http://www.thelocal.se/15198/20081024/)
Huzzah! The Aryan race is saved! 7.5% of Swedes are against multiculturalism. Which leaves only... 92.5% in favour.
Kodos
10-27-2008, 06:16 AM
Huzzah! The Aryan race is saved! 7.5% of Swedes are against multiculturalism. Which leaves only... 92.5% in favour.
Sweden's definitely a country that so pathetically and pompously liberal I'd like to see the male population massacred and the women taken as sex slaves as an example of what happens when you let your country be completely pussified, feminized, and socialized.
Ever met any Swedes online... its horrifying. Its like you are talking to a retarded politically correct robot. If there are any Swedes who aren't like that I apologize but the rest of your country should be subjected to the fate I ascribed.
Kriger
10-27-2008, 06:28 AM
Huzzah! The Aryan race is saved! 7.5% of Swedes are against multiculturalism. Which leaves only... 92.5% in favour.
Well, for one thing, Shanemac, the trend is growing. For another thing, less than 23% of Swedes want to live in areas which feature cultural, ethnic, and social diversity. That means that 77% don't want to live in these areas.
shanemac
10-27-2008, 06:40 AM
Well, for one thing, Shanemac, the trend is growing. For another thing, less than 23% of Swedes want to live in areas which feature cultural, ethnic, and social diversity. That means that 77% don't want to live in these areas.
Look, there's no point in saying "I don't want to live in a diverse area" and still voting for politicians who allow millions of immigrants to settle in your country. Eventually there won't be any non-diverse areas.
Kriger
10-27-2008, 06:41 AM
Sweden's definitely a country that so pathetically and pompously liberal I'd like to see the male population massacred and the women taken as sex slaves as an example of what happens when you let your country be completely pussified, feminized, and socialized.
Ever met any Swedes online... its horrifying. Its like you are talking to a retarded politically correct robot. If there are any Swedes who aren't like that I apologize but the rest of your country should be subjected to the fate I ascribed.
That's a little harsh, Kodos. The United States is far more pussified, feminized, and socialized than Sweden. The socialism in Sweden is far different than the socialism which is destroying the Republic of the USA.
Kriger
10-27-2008, 06:43 AM
Look, there's no point in saying "I don't want to live in a diverse area" and still voting for politicians who allow millions of immigrants to settle in your country. Eventually there won't be any non-diverse areas.
Yes, that seems to be a world wide trend, doesn't it?
RuneX2
10-27-2008, 09:48 AM
Sweden's definitely a country that so pathetically and pompously liberal I'd like to see the male population massacred and the women taken as sex slaves as an example of what happens when you let your country be completely pussified, feminized, and socialized.
Ever met any Swedes online... its horrifying. Its like you are talking to a retarded politically correct robot. If there are any Swedes who aren't like that I apologize but the rest of your country should be subjected to the fate I ascribed.Sweden definitely has some of the worst multicultural lusting PC types (ad incidentally invariably rabidly anti-American too) anywhere. However one also has to realise that due to their media (which is heavily controlled and for a big part state owned) and the Swedish psyche (which is not as individualistic as for instance the Danish and favours a more communal and less confronting living), there are a very large number of Swedes, which are never heard of, which are never given time in the media and which rarely speak up because of the expected massive condemnation following any critique of immigrant policies. Talking with the Swedish PC brigade will get you the Nazi or Racist mark at the smallest perceived infraction. But the common Swede is probably much more racist than for instance Danes.
Kriger
10-27-2008, 12:48 PM
Interesting, Rune. I know just a few Swedes who have been Americanized to a certain extent. I did not meet them before they became somewhat Americanized, and so I am somewhat amazed at their way of being in their own country. This is not to say I am doubting your assessment. To the contrary, this is what I find so interesting.
The Swedes I know are quite outspoken when it comes to anything political and concerning other races/cultures. I am now thinking that this is a result of being somewhat Americanized...they are emboldened by the relative freedom of speech in this country to verbally express what they are thinking instead of keeping it to themselves with all the politically correct answers.
Perhaps a little Americanization is good for all people who have been suppressed into PC Land. The somewhat Americanized Swedes I know are some of the most un-PC people I have met, and I don't mean they cuss a lot. I mean they call a spade a spade in real life in everyday conversation that has a tendency to cause the PC correct to gasp and cringe. Without using cuss words.
Heh. Would be nice if I could have a way to invite any and all Scandinavians to the Phora to learn about expressing oneself in an un-PC manner....without the cusswords that detract from the truths being stated.
Mackie
10-27-2008, 05:49 PM
Huzzah! The Aryan race is saved! 7.5% of Swedes are against multiculturalism. Which leaves only... 92.5% in favour.
the same rate here is 43% women strongly opposing, 54% men.
RuneX2
10-29-2008, 11:16 PM
Interesting, Rune. I know just a few Swedes who have been Americanized to a certain extent. I did not meet them before they became somewhat Americanized, and so I am somewhat amazed at their way of being in their own country. This is not to say I am doubting your assessment. To the contrary, this is what I find so interesting.I don’t know if it the case with your friends, but there are also many Swedes whom disagrees vehemently with where Sweden has gone. Many so much that they have decided to emigrate. I knew a guy who moved to Japan, because – as he said – that was the furthest he could get from Sweden. But actually he should have moved to Australia, this that’s the other side of the Earth.
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