What happened to the "awakening"

[MrAngry]

Tonight it is very likely that there will be a black leader of the free world.
If this happens it categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition consigned to the few who have little scope to look beyond colour for societies issues.

I do wonder what happened to the white awakening? Did it go back to sleep, or more likely enter a terminal coma? I do feel vindicated from a non racist view point that racists are in fact a fringe minority and the racism that people on this and other forums, claim is bubbling under the surface is nothing more than their hopeful fantasy.

As a great man once said,

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character."

Seems as though character now trumps colour.

[Count Sudoku]

Tonight it is very likely that there will be a black leader of the free world.
If this happens it categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition consigned to the few who have little scope to look beyond colour for societies issues.

Why?

I do wonder what happened to the white awakening? Did it go back to sleep, or more likely enter a terminal coma? I do feel vindicated from a non racist view point that racists are in fact a fringe minority and the racism that people on this and other forums, claim is bubbling under the surface is nothing more than their hopeful fantasy.

Racism is bound to increase if Obama wins and the average nigger acts even more obnoxious than ever.

As a great man once said,

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character."

Seems as though character now trumps colour.

Except when it comes to Affirmative Action I guess. And anyway, we judge people on the way they behave, not on how they look.

[marlowe]

Tonight it is very likely that there will be a black leader of the free world.
If this happens it categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition consigned to the few who have little scope to look beyond colour for societies issues.

I do wonder what happened to the white awakening? Did it go back to sleep, or more likely enter a terminal coma? I do feel vindicated from a non racist view point that racists are in fact a fringe minority and the racism that people on this and other forums, claim is bubbling under the surface is nothing more than their hopeful fantasy.

As a great man once said,

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character."

Seems as though character now trumps colour.


Yes, of course, the Great Man, the PosterBoy for the Federal Abolition of Free Association. That was one of those ENUMERATED rights in the Constitution, BTW. This is your "free world". May as well be led by a "black", that is to say, half-white, some Arab, very-little-African man.

He's a good public speaker, has nice teeth, and makes lots of appealing, if totally vague, promises. Now THAT's character.

[Scryllak]

If this happens it categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition consigned to the few who have little scope to look beyond colour for societies issues.

This is just silly, Mr. A. A Hillary nomination/victory wouldn't have spelled the end of sexism, nor would a McCain victory spell the end of ageism. Stereotypes, both accurate and not, are remarkably durable, and don't fade away because of limelighted exceptions to the rule.

[Winston]

Tonight it is very likely that there will be a black leader of the free world.
If this happens it categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition consigned to the few who have little scope to look beyond colour for societies issues.

I do wonder what happened to the white awakening? Did it go back to sleep, or more likely enter a terminal coma? I do feel vindicated from a non racist view point that racists are in fact a fringe minority and the racism that people on this and other forums, claim is bubbling under the surface is nothing more than their hopeful fantasy.

As a great man once said,

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character."

Seems as though character now trumps colour.
What bizarre conclusions are processed in that mind of yours.

[MrAngry]

He's a good public speaker, has nice teeth, and makes lots of appealing, if totally vague, promises. Now THAT's character.

That just your opinion and you're welcome to it. You do an injustice to a large section of the US population who are voting for Obama based on his character, values, qualities and policies.

[MrAngry]

What bizarre conclusions are processed in that mind of yours.


No more so than some of the prevailing views made on this very forum. An interesting thread started by Il Ragno regarding the reaction to an Obama victory or loss.

The simple fact is that Obama cannot win or come close to winning this election solely on the black vote so it would be safe to conclude that the majority of whites make their judgements regardless of colour or race.

[MrAngry]

This is just silly, Mr. A. A Hillary nomination/victory wouldn't have spelled the end of sexism, nor would a McCain victory spell the end of ageism. Stereotypes, both accurate and not, are remarkably durable, and don't fade away because of limelighted exceptions to the rule.


I didn't suggest the end of racism, merely pointing out that it isn't as prevalent overtly or otherwise as has been suggested on this site by many..

[Morpheus]

Yes, of course, the Great Man, the PosterBoy for the Federal Abolition of Free Association. That was one of those ENUMERATED rights in the Constitution, BTW. This is your "free world". May as well be led by a "black", that is to say, half-white, some Arab, very-little-African man.

He's a good public speaker, has nice teeth, and makes lots of appealing, if totally vague, promises. Now THAT's character.

Do you honestly believe this type of crap? I swear, people can be so gullible. You can write a page full of lies, no sources and those who want to believe it will.

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=599437&postcount=22

Next you'll be telling me Obama fits the physical description of the antichrist.

[marlowe]

You do an injustice to a large section of the US population who are voting


Actively-ignorant pop-culture voters, persuaded by a nice smile. I voted for him too...a character-and-values vote, though probably not what you're thinking.

[Scryllak]

I didn't suggest the end of racism, merely pointing out that it isn't as prevalent overtly or otherwise as has been suggested on this site by many..

A lot of Phorons grossly overstate the popularity of racism, sure, but suggesting that an Obama victory "categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition consigned to the few" is overstating things even further in the other direction. A mulatto president would certainly indicate a huge change in American prejudice from decades ago to today, but American racism is almost half-a-millennium old. In the span of past and future, Obama is a small fry, and his (probable) victory won't even dent the personal and defensive racism that will subsist even decades from now.

[Allegheny]

No more so than some of the prevailing views made on this very forum. An interesting thread started by Il Ragno regarding the reaction to an Obama victory or loss.

The simple fact is that Obama cannot win or come close to winning this election solely on the black vote so it would be safe to conclude that the majority of whites make their judgements regardless of colour or race.

And they are correct? No, they are wrong.


If we will listen to the judgment of those who should best know the nature of popular government, we shall find no reason for good men to desire or choose it. Xenophon, that brave scholar and soldier, disallowed the Athenian commonweal for that they followed that form of government wherein the wicked are always in greatest credit, and virtuous men kept under. They expelled Aristides the Just; Themistocles died in banishment; Miltiades in prison; Phocion, the most virtuous and just man of his age, though he had been chosen forty-five times to be their general, yet he was put to death with all his friends, kindred, and servants, by the fury of the people, without sentence, accusation, or any cause at all.


Sir Robert Filmer, Patriarcha

[Starr]

That just your opinion and you're welcome to it. You do an injustice to a large section of the US population who are voting for Obama based on his character, values, qualities and policies.

For many whites this is not a vote for Obama it is a vote against McCain and the neo con nightmare of the last 8 years. There are even white racists on these forums who have even indicated they may vote for Obama for these types of reasons. A white person can also both vote for Obama and have politically incorrect views on race in general. Do you believe electing this negro, who will have all kinds of whites around him in high positions, truly means that the masses of whites have no problem with the idea of their nation becoming browner and more alien? Blacks and other minorities are voting for Obama because he is black. So much for a color blind ideology and mindset from them. The white male vote will likely go for the white guy and the white female vote will be pretty evenly split if the polls are any indication. These realities hardly qualify as indicators of a race blind nation.

[Winston]

I didn't suggest the end of racism, merely pointing out that it isn't as prevalent overtly or otherwise as has been suggested on this site by many..
The prevalence of racism is there to see in the voting habits of black Americans. Hispanics are also apt to vote for democratic candidates. Ignore the black and brown vote and you have a republican landslide.

I don't think Obama's popularity has ever been in doubt among the racialists at this site, nor has it ever been a surprise to any of us. In fact, some overtly racialist people are voting for him, because the views held by most of us are not merely colour prejudice and we realise that the world isn't going to fall apart just because a negro is in charge. You need a greater number of negroes deep into the system for that to happen.

Personally I don't believe American politics can begin to make a much needed turn in our direction until America has been through another liberal presidency, and Obama will be the ultimate expression of that. The unpopularity of Bush and his policies have pushed Americans to the left. Expect a swing to the right after one or two terms with Obama.

Obama's popularity is partly a reaction to the Bush years, and partly due to the naivete of the average citizen who has been caught up in the media storm. (exemplified by you, to be blunt) Voting for Obama is the ultimate statement that one can make if one wishes to assert that they are not racist, and as you know, racism has been pushed into the number one slot when it comes to moral failings. With a republican candidate who represents a continuation of an administration which is perceived as a huge failure, voting for Obama doesn't seem like much of a risk.
Ultimately though, the vast majority of White people, regardless of how they vote in an election, vote with their feet when it comes to choosing where to live and where to send their kids to school.
Moreover, the deep failings of the multi-racial state are probably at their starkest during election time, where such large segments of the population are guaranteed disappointment every time, regardless of how much a candidate compromises his ideals to please as many voters as possible.

[marlowe]

Do you honestly believe this type of crap? I swear, people can be so gullible. You can write a page full of lies, no sources and those who want to believe it will.

Perhaps I stand corrected...I really don't care about it one way or the other, except to ridicule people who are ready to believe the "type of crap" that a politician will speak. Surely what we need is another LAWYER to, like, fix the economy.


Next you'll be telling me Obama fits the physical description of the antichrist.

That sounds a little hysterical. Besides, everyone knows that Chertoff is the antichrist.

[Vasily Zaitsev]

Tonight it is very likely that there will be a black leader of the free world.
If this happens it categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition...

This is the very essense of argumentum ad populum.

Now, it may very well be that race-based political ideologies are invalid and not destined to move humanity forward. However, their relative popularity does not determine that. To turn it around, was race-baced political thinking correct when much of Europe embraced it after World War One?

[harjit]

A mulatto president would certainly indicate a huge change in American prejudice from decades ago to today, but American racism is almost half-a-millennium old.
It's kind of surreal, thinking of American history in terms of millennia :eek:

Even with the "half" modifier.

[Apocales]

I believe that many White Americans due to media and corporate sports have been diverted away from anything racial. Why talk negatively about blacks when you can compare and contrast their sports-like abilities on the field? No room for hatred when your favorite home team has quite a few non-whites.

[Geist]

I think its important to note that Obama is half-white, and sort of ''Uncle Tom-ish''. Whether we're 'colour-blind' is surely too early a call...IMHO.

[delete]

It's kind of surreal, thinking of American history in terms of millennia :eek:

Even with the "half" modifier.

Hasn't this been Dan argument all along, that muds think the history of the country started the moment they arrived?

[harjit]

I think its important to note that Obama is half-white, and sort of ''Uncle Tom-ish''. Whether we're 'colour-blind' is surely too early a call...IMHO.
True, dat.

We're not gonna let up until America elects a full-blooded Pygmy hunchback with Tourette's, surrounded by a bevy of blonde white wimminz, yelling at the nation to fuck itself from the Oval Office.

Til dat day come you be raciss.

[President Barbicane]

You do an injustice to a large section of the US population who are voting for Obama based on his character, values, qualities and policies.

This is false. The way a candidate looks is a very good predictor of how he or she will do in an election. Although there may be a small number of people who vote for Obama because of his character, values, qualities, and policies, their votes are swamped by the people who vote for him because he looks a certain way (especially women. See Here (http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0003666), Razib of Gene Expression linked to this earlier).

[Vindex]

Mr.Angry is one of the most racist posters here almost every post of his is racial.

This thread shows his worldview has race as its axis.

[ironweed]

Tonight it is very likely that there will be a black leader of the free world.
If this happens it categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition consigned to the few who have little scope to look beyond colour for societies issues.

So the fact that 96% to 100% (so a talking head on CBS said earlier this evening) of African-Americans voted for one of their own, or at rate one they percieve that way, had nothing to do with race?

As a great man once said,

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character."

Yep, in between fucking hookers and plaigarizing dissertations and speeches.


Seems as though character now trumps colour.

If BHO had been white, would he have attracted the same level of support from the African-American 'community' or not?

[Count Sudoku]

Tonight it is very likely that there will be a black leader of the free world.
If this happens it categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition consigned to the few who have little scope to look beyond colour for societies issues.

If Obama lost tonight, there would have been an explosion of black racism against white people (and probably any other non-black). So much for your pipe dream.

Your definition of non-racism is for white people to bend over without complaint for non-whites.

[Larrikin]

Their is a fact that proponents of the White Awakening Theory have to avoid acknowledging at all costs in order to keep that delusion up.

The fact that it is young/first-time voters that rally behind Obama and they did so in numbers unprecedented in recent electoral history. This is living proof (though you might not like it) that

a) democratic process (or "the system")" is perfectly operational and public participation better than ever
and
b) the young white generation is largely not impressed by racialist thinking and indeed cares more about the message (however vague) than about the skin color of the messenger

[Larrikin]

So the fact that 96% to 100% (so a talking head on CBS said earlier this evening) of African-Americans voted for one of their own, or at rate one they percieve that way, had nothing to do with race?

If BHO had been white, would he have attracted the same level of support from the African-American 'community' or not?
The black vote has been democratic ever since with white candidates. 88% of black votes did go to Kerry in 2004. Taking into account that white votes for the Dems increased this time as well, there might be a 5% "black candidate factor" on top in the black vote, but that's hardly a sign of raging racism.

[Count Sudoku]

The black vote has been democratic ever since with white candidates. 88% of black votes did go to Kerry in 2004. Taking into account that white votes for the Dems increased this time as well, there might be a 5% "black candidate factor" on top in the black vote, but that's hardly a sign of raging racism.

It absolutely is a sign of raging racism. The point is that blacks vote as a block for whoever they think represents their interests whether they are white or black.

Furthermore, blacks voted as a block for Obama over Hillary in the primaries and they came out in much larger numbers than usual in the primaries and the general.

[Basil Fawlty]

If American WN's didn't believe in the Awakening they would have to abandon that ideology once and for all. Its pure delusion of course.

[Count Sudoku]

Their is a fact that proponents of the White Awakening Theory have to avoid acknowledging at all costs in order to keep that delusion up.

The fact that it is young/first-time voters that rally behind Obama and they did so in numbers unprecedented in recent electoral history. This is living proof (though you might not like it) that

a) democratic process (or "the system")" is perfectly operational and public participation better than ever
and
b) the young white generation is largely not impressed by racialist thinking and indeed cares more about the message (however vague) than about the skin color of the messenger

This is total fucking bullshit. Young people are mostly idiots with no life experience and have been raised their entire lives on jew propaganda.

I didn't become "racist" myself until my late 30s when I started to have direct contact with large numbers of niggers on a frequent basis.

[Count Sudoku]

If American WN's didn't believe in the Awakening they would have to abandon that ideology once and for all. Its pure delusion of course.

The truth is that Obama did the least well with white primary voters who lived with large numbers of niggers and did the best with white voters whose only experiences with niggers came from the jew tube.

[Count Sudoku]

Yep, in between fucking hookers and plaigarizing dissertations and speeches.

How about in between beating hookers?

[Basil Fawlty]

The truth is that Obama did the least well with white primary voters who lived with large numbers of niggers and did the best with white voters whose only experiences with niggers came from the jew tube.That's all very well, but do you really believe in the Awakening?

[Count Sudoku]

That's all very well, but do you really believe in the Awakening?

The "Awakening" happens when white people are put in direct contact with large numbers of niggers or beaners. The only problem is that by the time enough white people are "Awakened" in this manner, the whole fucking country will be overrun with mud.

edit: Furthermore, a large number of white people are totally immune to common sense and even this isn't enough for them. There are probably still large numbers of white liberals in South Africa for fuck sakes.

[harjit]

I didn't become "racist" myself until my late 30s when I started to have direct contact with large numbers of niggers on a frequent basis.
Sudoku, I thought you were younger. I'm 43, I guess you'd be in that general vicinity?
(Some people on these boards seem to think I'm a kid, before they know my age :()

I'm curious about the nature of the "nigger contact" in Toronto that influenced your views. I assume this was mainly with Jamaicans?

[Count Sudoku]

Sudoku, I thought you were younger. I'm 43, I guess you'd be in that general vicinity?
(Some people on these boards seem to think I'm a kid, before they know my age :()

I knew you weren't a kid and quite frankly if it was possible I wouldn't want people to know a single thing about me. Another poster didn't even want to reveal what city they lived in and I don't blame them.

I'm curious about the nature of the "nigger contact" in Toronto that influenced your views. I assume this was mainly with Jamaicans?

When I was a kid, there were a handful of blacks in the schools I went to. While they were typical blacks, there weren't enough of them for me to make any sort of generalization about them. This was true even when I went to university. In fact, I was "friends" with a couple of blacks when I did go to university.

I still don't hate every single black person or probably even most of them on an individual level. However, through my recent line of work I am forced to deal with large numbers of them on a somewhat regular basis. And yes, Jamaicans and Somolians piss me off the most.

[delete]

The "Awakening" happens when white people are put in direct contact with large numbers of niggers or beaners. The only problem is that by the time enough white people are "Awakened" in this manner, the whole fucking country will be overrun with mud.

edit: Furthermore, a large number of white people are totally immune to common sense and even this isn't enough for them. There are probably still large numbers of white liberals in South Africa for fuck sakes.

I don't think that is true.

We only need to become many enough, so that the racists/separatists/nationalists have their own media.

Once this happens, I think reality will dictate the rest. If it is really true that the racial mix of a society is paramount to how well it will function, then you will see separatists start voting with their feet, and outcompete the mixed areas.

[Count Sudoku]

I don't think that is true.

We only need to become many enough, so that the racists/separatists/nationalists have their own media.

This is not going to happen. If I could give you your own television network, you wouldn't be able to broadcast what you want because advertisers wouldn't want boycotts of their products for advertising with you.

Once this happens, I think reality will dictate the rest. If it is really true that the racial mix of a society is paramount to how well it will function, then you will see separatists start voting with their feet, and outcompete the mixed areas.

White people are already voting with their feet. Almost every white person will move if enough niggers become their neighbors.

Racially aware white people should physically move and form their own communities. Even if the Feds respond by moving in thousands of niggers straight from Africa it would still be worth it. The point is that white people live and have moral support from other white people even if niggers are forced on them.

[delete]

This is not going to happen. If I could give you your own television network, you wouldn't be able to broadcast what you want because advertisers wouldn't want boycotts of their products for advertising with you.

Do you really think that TV stations and newspaper will dictate the public agenda in the future, like it has done for the last 70 years?

Most young people in Norway use more time on the net, than watching television, and it is mainly old people who read newspapers.



White people are already voting with their feet. Almost every white person will move if enough niggers become their neighbors.

Racially aware white people should physically move and form their own communities. Even if the Feds respond by moving in thousands of niggers straight from Africa it would still be worth it. The point is that white people live and have moral support from other white people even if niggers are forced on them.
What I think is different now than before, is that even non-racists will be forced to aknowledge that niggers entering an area, will lead to their huge home-investment becoming practically worthless, since the internet basically flows over with exsamples of this happening.

[Count Sudoku]

Do you really think that TV stations and newspaper will dictate the public agenda in the future, like it has done for the last 70 years?

Most young people in Norway use more time on the net, than watching television, and it is mainly old people who read newspapers.

You have a point but most people are idiots who spend less time thinking about politics than time spent at the dentist.

What I think is different now than before, is that even non-racists will be forced to aknowledge that niggers entering an area, will lead to their huge home-investment becoming practically worthless, since the internet basically flows over with exsamples of this happening.

It is true that the internet is a great tool for us. Most people are just plain idiots that will believe whatever they are told by the "authorities" which unfortunately isn't us. That's why I think it best to physically move together so that there will be enough of "us" to be the "authorities" at least on a local level.

[Larrikin]

It absolutely is a sign of raging racism. The point is that blacks vote as a block for whoever they think represents their interests whether they are white or black.

Voting for the candidate you believe to best represent your interests is not "raging racism", but the essence of the democratic system...

[Count Sudoku]

Voting for the candidate you believe to best represent your interests is not "raging racism", but the essence of the democratic system...

So if I voted for David Duke that wouldn't be "raging racism" because I believe him best to represent my interests?

[Larrikin]

So if I voted for David Duke that wouldn't be "raging racism" because I believe him best to represent my interests?
If you vote for a racist candidate, obviously, your motivation is more or less racist.

That's it is rather an inane argument for the case unless you'd like to allege that all Democratic candidates have been black (crypto-)racists.


...blacks vote as a block for whoever they think represents their interests whether they are white or black.

You just gave a quiet good definition of anti-racist, color-blind behaviour as an example of racism. I'll leave it at that.

[Count Sudoku]

If you vote for a racist candidate, obviously, your motivation is more or less racist.

Obama is a racist and the fact that a large bunch of white morons voted for him doesn't change that.

You and other non-whites would bitch about racist whitey if white people elected someone who was totally impartial about race.

[delete]

You have a point but most people are idiots who spend less time thinking about politics than time spent at the dentist.

I am not sure how it will evolve.

I do however think that whites tend to back down from any fight, until the purportrator becomes uniformly hated,so support would be guarantied of you chose conflict.


It is true that the internet is a great tool for us. Most people are just plain idiots that will believe whatever they are told by the "authorities" which unfortunately isn't us. That's why I think it best to physically move together so that there will be enough of "us" to be the "authorities" at least on a local level.
Best choice for the ones living where it is already a lot of immigrants. We who have few of them though, should work on getting rid of the ones we have, and have them move to a more immigrant friendly area.

By the way, Larry King is not a nigger, he is one of these:
http://www.scavengeinc.com/images/franco/pink-gorilla-suit.jpg

[Alvo]

Tonight it is very likely that there will be a black leader of the free world.
If this happens it categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition consigned to the few who have little scope to look beyond colour for societies issues.

I do wonder what happened to the white awakening? Did it go back to sleep, or more likely enter a terminal coma? I do feel vindicated from a non racist view point that racists are in fact a fringe minority and the racism that people on this and other forums, claim is bubbling under the surface is nothing more than their hopeful fantasy.

As a great man once said,

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character."

Seems as though character now trumps colour.

You are absolutely right. This November 04 is to be remembered as day when Americans of ALL colors, creed and orientation came together in support of a purpose: change.

The change Americans want is now under way. A united nation where all its citizens work close together to make MLK's dream a reality.

The "awakening" you mentioned never existed. It was a twisted racist rhetoric that naively tried to sow hatred in the hearts of many, with no avail.

America is much bigger than the racist mumbo jumbo we see on websites like Stormfront, VNN, Assata Shakur, Destee, David Duke's, AmRen and so forth.

This November 04 represents a huge blow to those extremists who rooted for the demise of democracy in America. Once again, History has proved them wrong.

God bless America.

:dance2:

[Count Sudoku]

You just gave a quiet good definition of anti-racist, color-blind behaviour as an example of racism. I'll leave it at that.

When blacks vote as a block for whoever they think will represent them best, they are voting in a racist manner. Doesn't matter whether the person they vote for is black or not or their opponent is black or not.

If the option was available for me to vote for a black conservative that would stop all non-white immigration, deport the wetbacks and end AA, my voting for him would not be construed by you as an act of non-racism.

[Count Sudoku]

You are absolutely right. This November 04 is to be remembered as day when Americans of ALL colors, creed and orientation came together in support of a purpose: change.

The change Americans want is now under way. A united nation where all its citizens work close together to make MLK's dream a reality.

The "awakening" you mentioned never existed. It was a twisted racist rhetoric that naively tried to sow hatred in the hearts of many, with no avail.

America is much bigger than the racist mumbo jumbo we see on websites like Stormfront, VNN, Assata Shakur, Destee, David Duke's, AmRen and so forth.

This November 04 represents a huge blow to those extremists who rooted for the demise of democracy in America. Once again, History has proved them wrong.

God bless America.

:dance2:

Yes, racism has been totally defeated. I guess there is no more need for hate speech laws, hate crime laws, Affirmative Action and freedom of association restrictions.

[Larrikin]

If the option was available for me to vote for a black conservative that would stop all non-white immigration, deport the wetbacks and end AA, my voting for him would not be construed by you as an act of non-racism.
BS strawmen. And you likely wouldn't vote for a nigger even if he did all that.

[Count Sudoku]

BS strawmen. And you likely wouldn't vote for a nigger even if he did all that.

Actually I'd be very likely to vote for a candiate that wanted to end all non-white immigration and deport the wetbacks even if that candiate was a black flaming homosexual child molester.

[Basil Fawlty]

The "Awakening" happens when white people are put in direct contact with large numbers of niggers or beaners. The only problem is that by the time enough white people are "Awakened" in this manner, the whole fucking country will be overrun with mud.There was me thinking you lived in the American inner city or something the way you assumed some kind of authority and it turns out you are from Toronto. :rofl:

As it happens, I lived for a while in a part of London (UK) that was about 60% black and I didn't undergo this Awakening you speak of. What was I missing?

[Count Sudoku]

There was me thinking you lived in the American inner city or something the way you assumed some kind of authority and it turns out you are from Toronto. :rofl:

That's right. Toronto isn't even that bad compared to London and I still hate it.

As it happens, I lived for a while in a part of London (UK) that was about 60% black and I didn't undergo this Awakening you speak of. What was I missing?

The difference is that I have to work with them. You just have to pass them on the street and hope they don't stick a knife in your back.

[Basil Fawlty]

The difference is that I have to work with them. You just have to pass them on the street and hope they don't stick a knife in your back.Desperate nonsense. I never felt in any danger there except one evening when the SPG (Police, Special Patrol Group) were on the prowl with a bee in their bonnet about something.

[Count Sudoku]

Desperate nonsense. I never felt in any danger there except one evening when the SPG (Police, Special Patrol Group) were on the prowl with a bee in their bonnet about something.

You don't feel any danger because you're clueless and nothing has happened to you yet.

[Geist]

I can also add that living in a Muslim area for close to two years now I've never had any problems for being white. Even the gangs are docile enough. People who constantly fear crime rarely experience it either from what I gather. Your chances of being stabbed or beaten are exceptionally low in general.

[Basil Fawlty]

You don't feel any danger because you're clueless and nothing has happened to you yet.Bereft of argument you descend to personal insult.

[Hartmann von Aue]

You don't feel any danger because you're clueless and nothing has happened to you yet.

And sometimes people remain clueless after things do happen to them.

I've seen it in my own family.

Anyway, I also see an awakening with this election.

[Winston]

Desperate nonsense. I never felt in any danger there except one evening when the SPG (Police, Special Patrol Group) were on the prowl with a bee in their bonnet about something.
Do you deny that the black areas of Britain are dangerous places? The crime stats would indicate that they are. Did you feel as at home in that part of London as you do living in wherever it is you live in Ireland? Would you like it if that home town of yours, including the area in which you live, became 60% black?

[Apocales]

Desperate nonsense. I never felt in any danger there except one evening when the SPG (Police, Special Patrol Group) were on the prowl with a bee in their bonnet about something.

Lucky your city doesn't have roaming gangs, must be nice. The only people afraid of cops are dangerous minorities and white people doing illegal activities. :D.

[Basil Fawlty]

Do you deny that the black areas of Britain are dangerous places? The crime stats would indicate that they are.All poor areas have a crime problem these days.
Did you feel as at home in that part of London as you do living in wherever it is you live in Ireland? Of course not, England is a foreign country to me.
Would you like it if that home town of yours, including the area in which you live, became 60% black?I'm opposed to mass immigration and my opposition is colour blind.

[Basil Fawlty]

Lucky your city doesn't have roaming gangs, must be nice. The only people afraid of cops are dangerous minorities and white people doing illegal activities. :D.Or Irishmen living in Thatcher's Britain in the 1980's.

[Winston]

All poor areas have a crime problem these days.
Black areas are without question the biggest problem areas, (haven't you been keeping track of you is stabbing who in London?) therefore blacks are the people I would least like to live among. Simple stuff.


Of course not, England is a foreign country to me.
And will be a foreign country to me too if it gets further colonised. An area which is 60% black will already be a foreign country as far as I'm concerned. It won't be home. When you were in London, as you freely admit, you were in a foreign country that you didn't consider home. It's no wonder then that as you managed to avoid becoming the victim of a crime, then the area being majority black didn't effect you too much because you were already in an environment you felt no connection to. Now understand that it was my soil you were standing on, and that by becoming majority black it had ended up being just as alien to me as it was to you.

I'm opposed to mass immigration and my opposition is colour blind.
Great. Oppose all mass immigration and the worst groups you could possibly have arriving on your shores are simply wrapped up in there with the Frenchman, Swedes and those deplorable Englishman.

[Count Sudoku]

Here's a nice awakening story from Voice Of Reason Radio Network. You can download a variety of WN radio shows for free there.

http://reasonradionetwork.com/?p=660

Remoralization of European Americans: A Personal Note

November 5, 2008 · Print This Article

After last nights election, and the subsequent depressed state of many people reading this, VoR has received an uplifting email from our sometime-correspondent, “Joe”. Joe’s account of his “awakening” and how that relates to where we are at and what needs to be done may help lift our spirits!

by Joe (source: email)

Friends, As some of you know me personally and some do not, I want to record some personal matters as they relate to my White Nationalist politics, that is, how my sense of myself has changed dramatically over the last few years as I completed by apostasy from the ‘faith’ of Liberal values. When I say ‘apostasy’ I mean by that term that the values of the Liberalism of our times were and are faith-based, that is without any relation to the fundamentals of biology, evolution, human psychology, and science in general.

What Liberalism does embody is a certain White racial/genetic impulse toward what is normally called human decency, compassion, disinterested concern for others. No other race has invented Liberalism (as well as socialism..communism was largely invented by Jews ) except Whites. And this is Good, not bad.

LIberalism is thus an expression of a complex of White genes which were selected for over many thousands of years in a Europe which was very cold, could not support large populations thru agriculture, and was therefore hunter/gatherer structured in small groups of people who did not have to compete much for space and who also were dependent on other small groups of hunter-gatherers for trade and to some degree, exchange of women. Whites under these environmental constraints, were, thru Darwinian Natural Selection ,adapted and molded for extreme self-reliance AND cooperation with others, or, openness to strangers. This resulted in the extreme openness to strangers that today manifests in Liberalism. This genetic makeup also expressed itself in Christianity.

Whites are the only race to open their borders to non-kin, to other races. Whites are the only race to accord ‘human’ status to other races. Some Whites, in Europe and N. America, have gone so far as to value other races over themselves, in a word, to have submitted to massive propaganda from Jews, communists, socialists, and liberal elements of Christianity…to the effect that, in the words of the United Methodist Church ca. 1980, which put together a declaration on racism stated, “We are conscious that “we have sinned as our ancestors did; we have been wicked and evil” (Psalm 106:6, Today’s English Version), in other words LIberalism has become racially self-hating, or better, White liberals have become self-hating, deceived and subverted by the Jews (who are arguably the most racist people in the West) and their own genes.

Of course the quoted Psalm above has nothing to do with Racism or Racialism, and the Methodist fanatics misuse the Psalm for their own pious purposes, politicizing what was personal/religious and which was directed at individual responsibility for one’s own sins, etc. and… thereby punishes Whites in general in a frenzy of near witch-burning… The heresy of racism or racialism must be cleansed from the church, society, etc. This is truly an evangelical fanatacism that has gripped the minds of many , if not most, Whites. (Only the White race gets worked up over ‘racial equality’, no other race bothers with it as an ideological or religious issue, they just assume that they are the best and go about their business of keeping their societies racially pure.)

Chesterton once said that the problem in an Age of Disbelief, is not that people believe in Nothing, but that they will believe in Anything. So now, despite mountains of scientific evidence to the contrary, as well as the evidence of their eyes and ears, the race equalitarians, believing Anything, are gripped by a New Belief, new to Christianity, new to the world in general, and to Whites up ’till about 1900 , that God or Nature created the races equal. It is indeed a new religion. And there are many libs and rads who will kill for it. Canada and Europe put folks in jail for denying it. Yup. But enough of this. I want to talk about myself.

Inasmuch as Whites are generally demoralized, I am a White and have been demoralized as well. I never went in for self-hatred, but, as also a red-diaper baby, I was raised with a general distrust of the Establishment, which of course was White , and, Capitalist, and therefore less than pure.

I was taught to never say “Jew’ somebody down on a price, never to use the “N” word and to ‘understand’ the pack of niggers who tried to beat me up
when I was a freshman in high school as exploited and oppressed folks. And so I did. Then the Vietnam War came along, and I tried to be an ethical socialist, never a commie, and so on and so forth. After I quit the Left , never understanding how these folks could be so nuts (Now I know why…mostly, it was jewish genes) I just raised my kids and worked , the usual thing. Then I started studying the jews because I could not make sense of Israel thru leftwing ideas. I discovered that all the Left Ideas are fundamentally (but not completely) wrong. Then I discovered Race, Ethnicity, Nationalism, REligion, and the grab-bag of Culture. On and On. (My ultimate political position is not here the matter at hand.)

What is the point of this piece is to describe how my sense of my race changed from that of Whites as nothing special and certainly no worse than any other race (never was I a self-hater and a hater of Whites) to that of a deep “belief” based on observation and science, of the Specialness of Whites, the only individualistic race, not quite the smartest but smart enough to have invented almost everything, from democracy to science and technology, the bravest and most adventurous…exploration and , yes , conquest (the aboriginals of North and South America should wash our feet…if the Chinese had gotten here, they would have killed every last one of them, and , yes, their Stone Age savagery was to be replaced by some form of modernity), and finally, the best temperments of all the races ( which includes this vexing openness to strangers which is now killing us thru immigration and Africanization of our pop culture and of course the crime of the blacks and browns). Yes, the best temperments, the most open and engaging personalities, including tolerance of contrary opinions.

So, our Specialness is what has built Western Civililzation. I am part of that Great Race, and it makes me proud. My genes have been cultivated for 40,000 years in the great vinyard of Europe. They have been pruned, selected, adapted, and hybridized within one large Environment…that of Europe. No other race comes close to the brilliance and creativity and humanity of Europeans. (I hear the uproar of the Righteous Liberals clucking their outrage…but remember that this is Relative to other races, not some Universal Standard of Perfection that never was and never will be. If you want to stop clucking and think for just a wee second or two, ask yourself , if you had to be locked up in a jail somewhere, which race’s jail would you choose…oh yeah, Somalia sounds pretty good.) The blacks and browns are savage, low IQs, high impulsivity, etc and the Asians are collectivistic and authoritarian…so choose O liberals and Do-Gooders…choose!

Ahem, getting back to myself. I now have heroes, which I have been without since I was about 25 and realized that the various rads were just so many egotists, nihilists, and hustlers, especially the jews. Then there were the tales from the Abyss…the Stories Holocaust, which demoralized me not with regard to Whites, but with regard to Humanity. Now, that burden too is lifted. Guess What? Good News! 6 million didn’t die! it is just another case, as Martin Luther put it, of The Jews and Their Lies. The Jews, Enemy #1. From Neocons to Zionists to commies to liberals. all enemies. Then the Ignorant Armies of the Night, the blacks and browns, truly an invading force. Think about the American Civil War, fought over the blacks ( 6-700 thousand Whites killed over these creatures in a country of probably 25 million, more White men killed in that war than in ALL of our wars combined), and then their destruction of our cities, and now , with the help of the jews, the hollowing out of the brains of half or more of Whites. Black Average IQ of 85, the average IQ of a felon in the US is….85. Does that explain anything?

Then, our White race, with all its warts, the race which acts on Principle, not ethnic/social ties. The race that gets along tolerably well with itself. I am just back from Norway and saw a society of White people having a good time with one another. Smiles, almost no cops and cops without guns, almost no crime, except for the immigrant blacks and browns, which Norwegians are wising up to real fast. Whites with work ethic, individualism, concern for others, very little crime, Restraint, high and popular culture which is not nihilistic. (Of course, Norway does not have any Jews either…something to think about).

I love my race. I am proud of my luck to have been born a White, especially a Northern White, my genetic similars are floating around Scandinavia, (England, France, Russia too) the most civilized of all the countries in the world. Of course, the Scandinavians are beset with the disease of self-hatred as well, but they are rapidly wising -up, as is most of Europe, to the immigrant threat…and they may beat it faster than us inasmuch as they have no legacy of guilt over slavery. One Norwegian woman summed it up best…”We were very naive”.

I trust my genetic similars , not just because they are like me in looks, but because I know at an empirical level, what and how they think and feel. I am amongst civilized humans. I feel warmth for them. I belong to my race. I will defend my race. I will soldier for my race if the time comes. I feel remoralized. Morale. I feel great to have discovered the cause of saving Western Civilization and European derived people. Other races can have their lands and futures, but they cannot assault us anymore. Back they go from whence they came.

The Jews seized the immoral high ground: television, movies, and media. They have demonized us, make fools and villains of us in the media. They have our brains in a sieve. One holocaust lie after another, almost every day, blacks and browns as the good guys on the silver screen, textbooks on the evil whites and the noble savages. Everywhere. More complete than Soviet Lies because, many if not most folks behind the Iron Curtain knew they were being lied to. Here, nobody points a gun at you and tells you to watch TV. It is total…total. Totalitarian Liberalism.

The traditional sources of Authority, present as recently as 3 or 4 decades ago…are vanished. Church, School, Community, Parents, Political life..it is almost impossible to even suggest that not too long ago Politcal Life provided models for citizenship….Military…these are gone for the most part, and they have helped in their own demise. Now Authority is TV…jew tv. Almost nobody trusts any of our institutions…for good reason…Whites are not Totally propagandized.

Now and then something else comes thru, like No Country for Old Men, which honestly portrays the mexicans as savages by the Cohen Bros…righteous jews, or Apocolypto, which honestly protrays the l6th C. Aztecs (Mexicans…same indians as today) as savages and reverses the leftist Narrative re Whites coming to the Americas…Whites (Christianity) bringing Christ to the New World. (I just watched it again and noticed that while Christ was offered, the male Indian hero of the film rejected Him and , against the counsel of his ‘wife’, turned literally back to the jungle. This is about how it is today. These savages are not Christians…they are as they were….savages with all the bloodlust of their Indian cousins right here in North America , yesteryear as well as (more or less) today…constant warfare, torture, slavery, rigid hierarchical tribal organization, shaman mumbo-jumbo with killing of heretics. something the movies since the l960s fail to
note.

Love your own people, love them because they are your own kin, and love them because Whites are the most humane, most talented, most creative, most individualistic, and at least used to have the best work ethic, and are the most beautiful.

For you men out there, you liberals and vegetarians and Citizens-of-the-World, if you do not own firearms, you are not a man, you are a coward, or a dreamer. Worst of all you are probably a race-traitor. Of course, some of you are not cowards but just subverted fools who will turn your weapons on your own people. Fools are worse than cowards. Traitors, foolish or not, will be given special time-honored attention.

The first Amendment is there for freedom. The Liberals and commies and jews say, “no free speech for racists”. Right, when the First Amendment is dismantled, as free speech is now a crime in Canada and Europe, then the Second Amendment comes into its own. Beware.

Joe W.

[MrAngry]

The prevalence of racism is there to see in the voting habits of black Americans. Hispanics are also apt to vote for democratic candidates. Ignore the black and brown vote and you have a republican landslide.

Racism summed up generally is the belief that one group distinguished by race or colour is superior to another or one group should be disadvantaged in favour of another.

Blacks and Hispanics voting for a man that represents their views and aspirations does not constitute racism. And I state again that their vote exclusively would not be enough, I will also add that many non whites would have voted Republican.

I don't think Obama's popularity has ever been in doubt among the racialists at this site, nor has it ever been a surprise to any of us. In fact, some overtly racialist people are voting for him, because the views held by most of us are not merely colour prejudice and we realise that the world isn't going to fall apart just because a negro is in charge. You need a greater number of negroes deep into the system for that to happen.

I don't buy that, I've seen enough of this forum with it's TNB threads and the underlying message is that the actions of a few minorities is held up as typical of the whole, yet, when a non white success story emerges that must the exception to the rule, even in the face of growing multiracial success. Obama is an American Democrat, the colur issue will remove the victim mentality of both loser blacks and loser racist whites.


Personally I don't believe American politics can begin to make a much needed turn in our direction until America has been through another liberal presidency, and Obama will be the ultimate expression of that. The unpopularity of Bush and his policies have pushed Americans to the left. Expect a swing to the right after one or two terms with Obama.

Load of hopeful tosh, what happened to the underlying bubbling of discontent amongst whites that was growing? This proves the racist argument is and was incorrect and NOT representative of the vast majority of people. That is a fact.


Obama's popularity is partly a reaction to the Bush years, and partly due to the naivete of the average citizen who has been caught up in the media storm. (exemplified by you, to be blunt) Voting for Obama is the ultimate statement that one can make if one wishes to assert that they are not racist, and as you know, racism has been pushed into the number one slot when it comes to moral failings. With a republican candidate who represents a continuation of an administration which is perceived as a huge failure, voting for Obama doesn't seem like much of a risk.

This is typical of people like you, you the minority have all the angles covered don't you? Ypu cannot be wrong and the whole electorate who voted for Obama are naive and trying to demonstrate that they aren't racist, that's preposterous and you know it. Unless you have evidence to the contrary.



Ultimately though, the vast majority of White people, regardless of how they vote in an election, vote with their feet when it comes to choosing where to live and where to send their kids to school.


This is true of any section of society, driven by wealth and expectation regardless of colour race, it is really that simple.

[MrAngry]

Mr.Angry is one of the most racist posters here almost every post of his is racial.

This thread shows his worldview has race as its axis.


This post demonstrates what an arse you are.

[MrAngry]

You don't feel any danger because you're clueless and nothing has happened to you yet.


You should take a trip to the UK and walk though Withenshawe, Manchester or Speke Liverpool, nice white areas that would kick you to bits and slice you up regardless of colour. They're every bit as bad as the poor black and Asian areas trust me.

Because you're white wouldn't make you any less likely to be attacked and if you were would you take a disliking to all whites?

[Count Sudoku]

You should take a trip to the UK and walk though Withenshawe, Manchester or Speke Liverpool, nice white areas that would kick you to bits and slice you up regardless of colour. They're every bit as bad as the poor black and Asian areas trust me.

Because you're white wouldn't make you any less likely to be attacked and if you were would you take a disliking to all whites?

Don't you have some underage white girls to go pimp? - just kidding

[Basil Fawlty]

Black areas are without question the biggest problem areas, (haven't you been keeping track of you is stabbing who in London?) therefore blacks are the people I would least like to live among. Simple stuff.I know that and things have got worse across the board since the 80's when I was there. I originally said, that I did not live in fear for the simple reason that nothing ever presented itself to me such as to cause me to be fearful. That's simple stuff too.
And will be a foreign country to me too if it gets further colonised. That's a different matter - its your country not mine, I was as much a foreigner as the West Indians and Turkish Cypriots who were my neighbours back then.
An area which is 60% black will already be a foreign country as far as I'm concerned. It won't be home. When you were in London, as you freely admit, you were in a foreign country that you didn't consider home. It's no wonder then that as you managed to avoid becoming the victim of a crime, then the area being majority black didn't effect you too much because you were already in an environment you felt no connection to. Now understand that it was my soil you were standing on, and that by becoming majority black it had ended up being just as alien to me as it was to you.I understand all that but we were talking about the fear factor rather than the foreigner factor. Apart from the SPG incident other causes of anxiety were gangs of English soccer hooligans. I felt more comfortable with the West Indians than I did when gangs of Chelsea supporters were at large.
Great. Oppose all mass immigration and the worst groups you could possibly have arriving on your shores are simply wrapped up in there with the Frenchman, Swedes and those deplorable Englishman.It is a fact that the only foreigners who have ever caused us trouble were the English who felt some strange sense of ownership towards our land and used maximum violence in their pursuit of gain and dominion here. Perhaps now you are beginning to get a very small sense of what that feels like.

[Felix the Cat]

Whether or not you feel personally threatened by streetcrime probably has a lot to do with your age, sex and level of physical fitness.

[Winston]

Meester Angry, there's not much to say to you. You simply don't understand human nature and the power that media has over shaping peoples' opinions (even so far as to have them voting against their own self-interests, or forgetting that they even have self-interests). The conclusions you are drawing from Obama's victory, frankly, I have trouble believing can come from the mind of an adult.

[Winston]

It is a fact that the only foreigners who have ever caused us trouble were the English who felt some strange sense of ownership towards our land and used maximum violence in their pursuit of gain and dominion here. Perhaps now you are beginning to get a very small sense of what that feels like.

Be thankful that your domineering neighbour was Britain, and not China.

[Basil Fawlty]

Whether or not you feel personally threatened by streetcrime probably has a lot to do with your age, sex and level of physical fitness.These would be factors for sure. I was 23-4 at the time and just discharged from the army here before I went over so I was in very good condition. Another factor which hasn't been mentioned is attitude. If you are fearful or harbour negative attitudes these will communicate themselves and possibly make you a target. I've seen something like this happen when a guy I was with attracted negative attention from a skinhead on a tube precisely because he radiated fear.

[Basil Fawlty]

Be thankful that your domineering neighbour was Britain, and not China.That's lame. Have you ever had a look at some of the details of Irish history? How could it have been worse!

[fizzelopeguss]

Or Irishmen living in Thatcher's Britain in the 1980's.

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The poor irish is feeling left out, you're in good company down here at the sympathy parade with the blacks and jews.

[ironweed]

The black vote has been democratic ever since with white candidates. 88% of black votes did go to Kerry in 2004.

Did they or did they not turn out in absolutely higher numbers? I mean, excluding the ACORN chicanery.

Taking into account that white votes for the Dems increased this time as well, there might be a 5% "black candidate factor" on top in the black vote, but that's hardly a sign of raging racism.

See here (http://blow.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/people-wept/), including the comments, and then see if you can seriously continue to claim that line of bull.

[Mr.Bigglesworth]

No more so than some of the prevailing views made on this very forum. An interesting thread started by Il Ragno regarding the reaction to an Obama victory or loss.

The simple fact is that Obama cannot win or come close to winning this election solely on the black vote so it would be safe to conclude that the majority of whites make their judgements regardless of colour or race.

Good point. Which reminds me of a recent discussion had in the stormfront forums. Many of the posters came to believe that the majority of Whites in the United States were closet racists(Democrat/Republican) who were going to vote for Mccain due to the alleged discomfort of the idea of a Black man being president of the United States. What a shocking discovery it was for SFers, after realizing that Obama won the largest share of the White vote than any Democrat in a two man race since 1976.

[Count Sudoku]

Good point. Which reminds me of a recent discussion had in the stormfront forums. Many of the posters came to believe that the majority of Whites in the United States were closet racists(Democrat/Republican) who were going to vote for Mccain due to the alleged discomfort of the idea of a Black man being president of the United States. What a shocking discovery it was for SFers, after realizing that Obama won the largest share of the White vote than any Democrat in a two man race since 1976.

There are many variables that could be responsible for that. 1) The Bush regime is hated and McCain would be a continuation of it. 2) McCain ran his campaign as basically one long concession speech. He was just going through the motions of campaigning. 3) McCain sucks and even (especially) conservatives weren't enthusiastic about voting for him. 4) Obama has exceptional charisma and the dipshits of our race fell for it. 5) The stock market tanked just before the election and people were pissed. 6) The media gave Obama a total free pass and wanted him to win. 7) Somehow Obama raised a ton of money although no one seems sure where it all came from.

[Basil Fawlty]

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The poor irish is feeling left out, you're in good company down here at the sympathy parade with the blacks and jews.Who's looking for sympathy? And who are you anyway?

[Larrikin]

Did they or did they not turn out in absolutely higher numbers? I mean, excluding the ACORN chicanery.

Yes they did, but so did white voters, as this election had the highest turn-out ever. A fact you missed?

Blacks participation rose from 11 to 13% of the electorate, with votes for the Dem candidate rising from 90% to 96%. That's about 2.5% "black factor" in the outcome of popular vote. On the other hand, with the Dem candidate being white, likely some more dissatisfied Reps would have turned their back on McCain, who wasn't a very strong candidate, so I don't think there's much of an overall change in the end.

See here (http://blow.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/people-wept/), including the comments, and then see if you can seriously continue to claim that line of bull.
There's no doubt that Obama stirred a out of emotions and that any minority group having "one of them" finally in office will feel satisfaction and relieve, not out of racist spite for "whitey" here, but for coming to terms with their own history.

[Count Sudoku]

Here are a bunch of examples of white people now being attacked and harassed by niggers because of their political views. And I've seen other examples on different boards. And yet the anti fuckheads can't figure out why we want to have nothing to do with niggers.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2126946/posts

East Texas student says he was attacked over t-shirt (NoBama)
KLTV ^

Posted on 11/6/2008 6:28:22 AM by mnehrling

An East Texas teenager says he was attacked at school for wearing a political t-shirt.

On Friday, Robert E. Lee student Ryan Oster says he wore a NO-bama shirt. He says two black students threatened him, telling him to take it off. He says he went to the restroom to take it off, but was attacked anyway.

"As soon as I got it off, this one kid pushed me into one of the bathroom stalls and started hitting me in my face a couple of times and my ribs and my chest," said Oster.

"My son couldn't even go to the football game on Friday night because he was scared to go there. It shouldn't be that way," said Oster's father, Paul Oster.

We spoke with Tyler ISD this afternoon, who said this is an unfortunate incident and that it is very early in their investigation. They also say that at this point, one student has been charged with class A assault.

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There’s going to be a lot more of this ESPECIALLY from blacks! This IS a black thing! Their “Messiah”,their “Brother” won.

My wife was taunted at the WalMart parking lot because of her McCain bumper sticker. By 3-300lb “females”. I took it off. My neighbor went to have lunch with her daughter at school. The black cafeteria workers were nasty with the white kids, gushing with love to the few black kids that go there. This is no “imagination”. The “Thug in Chief” created the biggest racial divide in America since the Civil War. It will only get worse.

[MrAngry]

Meester Angry, there's not much to say to you. You simply don't understand human nature and the power that media has over shaping peoples' opinions (even so far as to have them voting against their own self-interests, or forgetting that they even have self-interests). The conclusions you are drawing from Obama's victory, frankly, I have trouble believing can come from the mind of an adult.

That's really rich coming form a man who uses the name "Integrity" I'm sure there's irony in there somewhere.

Your naivety is plainly evident, because events don't support your view or your previous claims, then the majority of decent society must be wrong or misled/conned by the media.

If self interest is measured solely on colour or skin or race in your opinion then I'd question your maturity. If you can actually refute my claims please pony up some evidence because from where I'm sitting your party has been pooped on.

[MrAngry]

There are many variables that could be responsible for that. 1) The Bush regime is hated and McCain would be a continuation of it. 2) McCain ran his campaign as basically one long concession speech. He was just going through the motions of campaigning. 3) McCain sucks and even (especially) conservatives weren't enthusiastic about voting for him. 4) Obama has exceptional charisma and the dipshits of our race fell for it. 5) The stock market tanked just before the election and people were pissed. 6) The media gave Obama a total free pass and wanted him to win. 7) Somehow Obama raised a ton of money although no one seems sure where it all came from.

8) Obama was the best candidate and Americans voted for the best man.
9) It sticks in the throat of your common garden racist that a black man can win an election when their bubble of underlying racism among whites is shown to be a lie.

[Winston]

That's really rich coming form a man who uses the name "Integrity" I'm sure there's irony in there somewhere.

Your naivety is plainly evident, because events don't support your view or your previous claims, then the majority of decent society must be wrong or misled/conned by the media.

If self interest is measured solely on colour or skin or race in your opinion then I'd question your maturity. If you can actually refute my claims please pony up some evidence because from where I'm sitting your party has been pooped on.
Your original claims were fallacious to begin with, so they really aren't worth going into any more effort over. Even now you're completely misrepresenting my views and the views of most if not all of the intelligent members of this forum. You haven't bothered paying attention to anything anybody else says around here, so why should I bother typing a rebuttal? I have no problem spending a bit of time replying to someone if they can actually put forth an argument based on a genuine understanding of racialist/nationalist positions.

[MrAngry]

Your original claims were fallacious to begin with, so they really aren't worth going into any more effort over. Even now you're completely misrepresenting my views and the views of most if not all of the intelligent members of this forum. You haven't bothered paying attention to anything anybody else says around here, so why should I bother typing a rebuttal? I have no problem spending a bit of time replying to someone if they can actually put forth an argument based on a genuine understanding of racialist/nationalist positions.

Fallacious how? Because you find someone who has an opposing view and a valid one at that you extinguish your argument by claiming that mine isn't worth responding to. Your hatred is so entrenched it blinds you to the obvious, you have no rebuttal because most people make their judgements on something more substantial than colour or race. You're view won't allow you to accept otherwise, if the far right ever become a factor in the West maybe then I'll start to take your viewpoint seriously.

The fact is Obama is mixed, under any other premise he'd be viewed s exclusively black, and again IF there was ever an underlying majority of whites who feared non whites it hasn't shown itself when it had the greatest opportunity. I accept that a minority non whites can be racist, violent and bigoted, you can't accept that it's only a MINORITY of whites who are the same.

[Larrikin]

Forget about it, MrA.

They need the thought that everyone is crypto-racist, even if whites rally behind Obama and young folks swarm happily around him. The idea that racist/racialist might actually be the fringe as which it is commonly perceived and not the heroic spearheads and leaders-to-come of a silent/misguided/oppressed/<insert excuse here> majority, simply is unbearable.

"Teh Awakening and Teh White Revolution will come" is a racialist mantra all over the world for decades, just re-read Rockwell's predictions of his own presidency in the early 70s when his followers numbered in dozens. Hilarious.

[Winston]

Fallacious how? Because you find someone who has an opposing view and a valid one at that you extinguish your argument by claiming that mine isn't worth responding to. Your hatred is so entrenched it blinds you to the obvious, you have no rebuttal because most people make their judgements on something more substantial than colour or race. You're view won't allow you to accept otherwise, if the far right ever become a factor in the West maybe then I'll start to take your viewpoint seriously.

The fact is Obama is mixed, under any other premise he'd be viewed s exclusively black, and again IF there was ever an underlying majority of whites who feared non whites it hasn't shown itself when it had the greatest opportunity. I accept that a minority non whites can be racist, violent and bigoted, you can't accept that it's only a MINORITY of whites who are the same.

You are excruciatingly dense. Seriously. If you want to take my lack of willingness to bother typing a proper rebuttal as a victory then go ahead, but keep it in mind next time you see me making an actual effort in another thread and then perhaps you'll see that it is your simplistic and fallacious arguments that I am avoiding, and not your position. I mean, Christ, sometimes an argument is so poorly formed and irrelevant that there's no point in trying. That's why kane's efforts usually go uncontested.

[Count Sudoku]

8) Obama was the best candidate and Americans voted for the best man.

Your time of MSF has made you soft and weak Mr. Angry. Must not have been enough nasty racists to challenge your BS. Most of us are not jew created Archie Bunkers boogeymen who think every black person is inferior to every white person. So fine, some white people actually think an affirmative action 4yr senator who probably couldn't pass a security clearance to be his own presidential bodyguard is somehow more qualfied to be president.

9) It sticks in the throat of your common garden racist that a black man can win an election when their bubble of underlying racism among whites is shown to be a lie.

It sticks in my throat that I'm going to be eventually outvoted by people who have no business in my country in the first place.

[Count Sudoku]

"Teh Awakening and Teh White Revolution will come" is a racialist mantra all over the world for decades, just re-read Rockwell's predictions of his own presidency in the early 70s when his followers numbered in dozens. Hilarious.

How could having a communist nigger whose supporters openly declare in pubilc that white people are now going to be their slaves not increase the number of white people who subscribe to our position? And BTW, that is a story someone else posted on another board (not even a racist board).

Furthermore, your sig is exactly what we are fighting against. A world where human diversity is eliminated and everyone has the same color and intelligence of shit.

edit: And here is another story along the lines of the first

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=44472

"you white police can't do nothing anymore"-black woman after Obama victory

Prosecutors said Hart, who is black, yelled " 'White [expletive], [expletive] McCain--you white police can't do nothing anymore.'" With that, she reached through the window of a squad car and slapped a white male officer in the face, according to Assistant State's Atty. Lorraine Scaduto.

The incident occurred after police responded to a crowd of people celebrating Obama's win on the corner of 69th Street and Western Avenue. Hart, of the 7100 block of South Rockwell Street, was

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I would have said this whtie cop had his "racial awakening" but I'm sure most cops whoe have worked more than two weeks are already aware of what niggers are like.

edit: edit:

Oh, and is this black bitch going to be charged with a hate crime? Highly unlikely.

[Winston]

Forget about it, MrA.

They need the thought that everyone is crypto-racist, even if whites rally behind Obama and young folks swarm happily around him. The idea that racist/racialist might actually be the fringe as which it is commonly perceived and not the heroic spearheads and leaders-to-come of a silent/misguided/oppressed/<insert excuse here> majority, simply is unbearable.

"Teh Awakening and Teh White Revolution will come" is a racialist mantra all over the world for decades, just re-read Rockwell's predictions of his own presidency in the early 70s when his followers numbered in dozens. Hilarious.

OK. You have a brain (despite the post I'm replying to) so it might be worthwhile talking to you. Where did you get the idea that we believe that Whites are all crypto-racists to the point that a half-black man would be unelectable? Obama's electability as a black man was probably questioned more by the mainstream media (who still sees the klan as a force to be reckoned with) than it was by racialists.

This isn't an issue of Whites being, or becoming, foaming-at-the-mouth racists, it is one of Whites becoming aware of their weakening position in many of the western democracies, realising that this is a bad thing, and then doing something about it. It can't be denied that Whites would be better off if their societies didn't have to cope with ethnic minorities, and it is also true that most White Americans (not to mention Europeans) are against mass immigration. And yet they won't lift a finger to do anything about it. Why do you think this is? It is mainly because people judge the importance of an issue by how many megawatts are behind the signal, or by the circulation of the newspaper they're reading, and they aren't getting the chance to really vote in accordance with their needs. The democratic system which they trust is keeping the most important problems that White people face outside of political relevance.

So at the moment Whites are largely silent. That doesn't mean though that everything is okay and that those who espouse the anti-racist, colour-blind ideology are correct. Immeasurably far from it. The west is in a terrible state of affairs due to those sorts of politics, and Whites are tired of it. Whites are tired of race full stop. They wish they didn't have to think about it and tip toe around it, pretend they don't see it or kid themselves that it doesn't matter.
But their displeasure with the situation is only permitted to be expressed in one direction, and that is to think of it as Whites needing to make the effort to change to improve the lives of non-whites, and that in doing that their own lives will be improved.

So with the opportunity to vote for a not-too-black man who - with the information the media allowed them - appeared to be the perfect 'post-race' president and answer to all of America's racial woes, (and with the other option being another helping of Bush) the choice was easy for many of them. The whole election was basically a congratulation fest for what they were about to do. 'Change' meant a change from Bush; but even more powerful was the promise of change in the way race effects life in America. That was irresistible to many.

[Death]

Mr. Angry is married to a Jew. No doubt she wears his pants and he wears her dresses.

What he fails to understand is that the Magic Negro is going to be good for us. He is too dense to see that. No doubt his wife needs to give him back his balls, sorry I meant to says brains.

I have already gotten into arguements with two black females where I work; let's just say one they have no clue about much of anything but they will defend their boy to the death. The Magic Negro is going to fail not because he is black but because the country has too many problems that can be traced back to the 60's. Some of the white people that voted for him are going to learn the hard way that they made a mistake.

[Geist]

I might listen to the black vibe when they elect an actual black dude. Obama is a true-blue Oreo bro!

[harjit]

I actually prefer the term Magical Negro to Magic Negro.

"Magical" conjures up this image in my mind of scintillating stars and pretty twinkling lullaby music like that from a musical box, and unicorns jumping over the moon.

I'm going to confess I absolutely love that imagery.

[Ahknaton]

I actually prefer the term Magical Negro to Magic Negro.

"Magical" conjures up this image in my mind of scintillating stars and pretty twinkling lullaby music like that from a musical box, and unicorns jumping over the moon.

I'm going to confess I absolutely love that imagery.
I know what you mean. Sometimes I wish I had a pony. I'd call him Star Dancer and love him forever!

[harjit]

I know what you mean. Sometimes I wish I had a pony. I'd call him Star Dancer and love him forever!
Ahk, here's a present, for having been such a nice guy to me all this time on the Phora.

http://images.hasbro.com/mylittlepony/images/rotating_ponies/default.jpg

[MrAngry]

OK. You have a brain (despite the post I'm replying to) so it might be worthwhile talking to you. Where did you get the idea that we believe that Whites are all crypto-racists to the point that a half-black man would be unelectable? Obama's electability as a black man was probably questioned more by the mainstream media (who still sees the klan as a force to be reckoned with) than it was by racialists.

This isn't an issue of Whites being, or becoming, foaming-at-the-mouth racists, it is one of Whites becoming aware of their weakening position in many of the western democracies, realising that this is a bad thing, and then doing something about it. It can't be denied that Whites would be better off if their societies didn't have to cope with ethnic minorities, and it is also true that most White Americans (not to mention Europeans) are against mass immigration. And yet they won't lift a finger to do anything about it. Why do you think this is? It is mainly because people judge the importance of an issue by how many megawatts are behind the signal, or by the circulation of the newspaper they're reading, and they aren't getting the chance to really vote in accordance with their needs. The democratic system which they trust is keeping the most important problems that White people face outside of political relevance.

So at the moment Whites are largely silent. That doesn't mean though that everything is okay and that those who espouse the anti-racist, colour-blind ideology are correct. Immeasurably far from it. The west is in a terrible state of affairs due to those sorts of politics, and Whites are tired of it. Whites are tired of race full stop. They wish they didn't have to think about it and tip toe around it, pretend they don't see it or kid themselves that it doesn't matter.
But their displeasure with the situation is only permitted to be expressed in one direction, and that is to think of it as Whites needing to make the effort to change to improve the lives of non-whites, and that in doing that their own lives will be improved.

So with the opportunity to vote for a not-too-black man who - with the information the media allowed them - appeared to be the perfect 'post-race' president and answer to all of America's racial woes, (and with the other option being another helping of Bush) the choice was easy for many of them. The whole election was basically a congratulation fest for what they were about to do. 'Change' meant a change from Bush; but even more powerful was the promise of change in the way race effects life in America. That was irresistible to many.

Validation of intelligence from a man who believes he speaks on behalf of the white (:confused: ) race is something I do not need nor seek. :nuts:


The FACT is many whites are better off now than in any other time in history, even those in "relative" poverty have a good standard of living.
Racist (scum), like to believe that the issues are those of race when in fact they are more likely class and social standing.
The Americans had the opportunity to test your racist theories and they were found wanting and yet you still persist with the nonsense that there is still endemic underlying racism present. And you suggest that I'm stupid!

The West has enjoyed a long period of stability and wealth, the phrase "you're never had it so good" was never more appropriate now than since the 50's. Mass immigration is an issue for all Westerners, regardless of colour, so even a racist like you can't claim it's an exclusive white issue anymore.

You and your ilk are on the fringe desperately trying to tag yourselves as the voice of white opinion. Get over yourself you're not that important..

[Winston]

You still aren't managing to form a reality-based argument.

[Count Sudoku]

The FACT is many whites are better off now than in any other time in history, even those in "relative" poverty have a good standard of living.

So? We'd be way better off if we didn't have the anchor of niggers tied around our necks. BTW, all these "good times" have been created on borrowed money, a large chunk of which has been wasted on niggers.

Racist (scum),

Boo hoo, my feelings!

like to believe that the issues are those of race when in fact they are more likely class and social standing.

It's a funny thing, but stupid violent lazy negroes usually end up in the lower classes.

The Americans had the opportunity to test your racist theories and they were found wanting

When? What the fuck are you talking about? If anything, us racists were proven right.

and yet you still persist with the nonsense that there is still endemic underlying racism present.

Apparently there is endemic white racism otherwise why all this affirmative action bullshit.

And you suggest that I'm stupid!

I'll suggest it too. At least Larrakin and Harjit have the sense to keep their mouths shut when I shoot down their crap.

The West has enjoyed a long period of stability and wealth, the phrase "you're never had it so good" was never more appropriate now than since the 50's

I don't see what the point of bringing this up is. Are you suggesting that this is somehow a result of all the mud in America when more accurately it should be said in spite of all the mud?

Mass immigration is an issue for all Westerners, regardless of colour, so even a racist like you can't claim it's an exclusive white issue anymore.

Yes, the muds here want to bring more of their relatives to the West because muds can't create countries they'd want to live in.

You and your ilk are on the fringe desperately trying to tag yourselves as the voice of white opinion. Get over yourself you're not that important..

Am too!

[MrAngry]

You still aren't managing to form a reality-based argument.

Lets test your reality...

There's a mud elected President of the biggest and most powerful country in the World. KFC and Koolaid all round, :rofl: .

Where all dem raciss at? Even those who you talk on behalf of? Did they forget to vote? Or did they get get confused and vote for the man they DIDNT want?

I like my reality because it's in reality, yours is a sham.

[MrAngry]

So? We'd be way better off if we didn't have the anchor of niggers tied around our necks. BTW, all these "good times" have been created on borrowed money, a large chunk of which has been wasted on niggers.

Rhetoric.


It's a funny thing, but stupid violent lazy negroes usually end up in the lower classes.

Oh, and violent lazy Caucasians and Asians too.



When? What the fuck are you talking about? If anything, us racists were proven right.

Yeah, of course you were, you racists are always right on a racist forum. :whip:



I'll suggest it too. At least Larrakin and Harjit have the sense to keep their mouths shut when I shoot down their crap.

Larrikin is polite, articulate and intelligent, proves your TNB theory every time :rofl: .



I don't see what the point of bringing this up is. Are you suggesting that this is somehow a result of all the mud in America when more accurately it should be said in spite of all the mud?

I'm saying it is nothing to do with race or colour, this success was created and enjoyed by all race and creeds.



Yes, the muds here want to bring more of their relatives to the West because muds can't create countries they'd want to live in.

But look how well they do. And poor old you with all your Aryan superiority advantage going to waste.


Am too!

No...... No you're not.

[Starr]

The FACT is many whites are better off now than in any other time in history, even those in "relative" poverty have a good standard of living.
Racist (scum), like to believe that the issues are those of race when in fact they are more likely class and social standing.
The Americans had the opportunity to test your racist theories and they were found wanting and yet you still persist with the nonsense that there is still endemic underlying racism present. And you suggest that I'm stupid!


Since you believe race only matters to a few people on the fringe of society than I am taking it you also believe that the racism card as an explanation for black failures has no basis in reality and should be tossed?

[MrAngry]

Since you believe race only matters to a few people on the fringe of society than I am taking it you also believe that the racism card as an explanation for black failures has no basis in reality and should be tossed?

Yes I do. Hopefully the fact that a black (mixed) man has made it to the highest office in the US will stop this nonsense, that argument is no longer valid as it once was. There will always be prejudice though, but prejudice isn't exclusive to colour.

[Allegheny]

Lets test your reality...

There's a mud elected President of the biggest and most powerful country in the World. KFC and Koolaid all round, :rofl: .

Where all dem raciss at? Even those who you talk on behalf of? Did they forget to vote? Or did they get get confused and vote for the man they DIDNT want?

I like my reality because it's in reality, yours is a sham.

Reality: race is real, and there are significant differences between the races.

Whether or not people decide to acknowledge this is not my concern. It's true, and saying that we are all equal is simply false.

My question to you: What happened to 'equal outcomes'? Fifty years since schools have de-segregated in the United States, the passing of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, decades of de jure and de facto affirmative action, and untold billions spent fighting poverty, racism, discrimination, etc., blacks are still poorer, more criminal, less educated, less healthy, and less successful than whites or Asians.

Why?

[Starr]

b) the young white generation is largely not impressed by racialist thinking and indeed cares more about the message (however vague) than about the skin color of the messenger

The majority of whites, males and females, alike voted for McCain. There are also whites who voted against McCain rather than for Obama. There is no need to believe this group of people is as race blind as some might like to think just because they voted for Obama. Obama does not represent what they might think of as the average black. Again there is a huge faulty assumption here that people who do not have PC views on race merely dislike every negro that exists for no other reason that because they are a negro. There are people on this forum and on vnn,etc. who are openly racist and talked about potentially voting for Obama because 4 years of someone who would have likely been even worse than Bush is unnacceptable to them. And then you have a small group of whites, usually the younger generation who did very much consider race in their vote. The type who has been taught to despise their own ancestors and people and believe that a black leader is some kind of needed moral accomplishment and shift of power from the evil oppressive white man. These people are no less racist just because their racism is directed at their own people.

[007]

Or Irishmen living in Thatcher's Britain in the 1980's.

He already mentioned the dangerous criminally inclined minorities.

[Warka]

My question to you: What happened to 'equal outcomes'? Fifty years since schools have de-segregated in the United States, the passing of the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, decades of de jure and de facto affirmative action, and untold billions spent fighting poverty, racism, discrimination, etc., blacks are still poorer, more criminal, less educated, less healthy, and less successful than whites or Asians.

Why?

Now, this is beautiful.

The only half-logical answer Mr. Angry or any other anti-racist can provide to this question while not betraying their position is that institutional racism is still pervasive and holding negroes back. This, of course, totally contradicts the hootin' and hollerin' about the demise of the last vestiges of racism, that's it's only loony fringe types who are racists anymore, we see earlier in this very thread.

They'll certainly never admit the truth, that negroes are genetically inferior, thus we realize they're once again caught trying to have it both ways- one day racism is dead and the next it's still keeping their brothers down, depending on the debate.

Well played, 800. :posrep:

[Death]

I talked to a white guy I worked with last night that voted for the Magical Negro saying that he did it for his son’s future believing that the country would be better off in a few years but when I dug a little deeper I found that he had no idea of much of anything about the Magical Negro’s background or links to Black Liberation Theology. I think that many white males that voted for the Magical Negro have no idea that voting for him is going to cost them and their sons

[harjit]

The only half-logical answer Mr. Angry or any other anti-racist can provide to this question while not betraying their position is that institutional racism is still pervasive and holding negroes back. This, of course, totally contradicts the hootin' and hollerin' about the demise of the last vestiges of racism, that's it's only loony fringe types who are racists anymore, we see earlier in this very thread.

They'll certainly never admit the truth, that negroes are genetically inferior, thus we realize they're once again caught trying to have it both ways- one day racism is dead and the next it's still keeping their brothers down, depending on the debate.
I can't speak for Mr. Angry, but none of thoughts being tossed around in this thread have to be extreme and absolute.

There are certainly differences between the races. Our eyes alone tell us that. Of course these differences can also bear out in criminality, education, etc. I'm certainly not of the position of harsh coincidental biological equality.

At the same time, there are also many changeable social factors that affect black performance adversely. To argue that there are none whatsoever is as extreme as an anti-racist arguing 100% perfect equality.

I don't know the precise point at which the weights of either of the above lie, don't have the time for digging and researching.

I also don't believe that racists are some extreme fringe minority. Most people are racist to some degree or another, along a continuum. Most people probably have some degree of skepticism about blacks (I bet including many blacks themselves). Maybe a minority of whites would refuse to vote for a black candidate. A much smaller minority yet are politicized racial separatists.

So it is too extreme a statement to assert that there is no discrimination against blacks at all, just as it is to say that racism is dead.

[Ahknaton]

So it is too extreme a statement to assert that there is no discrimination against blacks at all, just as it is to say that racism is dead.
There was definitely discrimination in the past, a lot of it blatantly enshrined in the law. However this affected more than just Blacks. Irish, Asians, Catholics, Jews, Indians and other groups were affected by racial discrimination. However once these formal barriers to participation in certain institutions and professions were removed their position almost immediately improved and nowadays they have mostly achieved (or exceeded) parity with Whites in terms of social position. Likewise when you compare colonized nations, those of Asia have tended to (either begin or continue to) prosper after the end of European colonial rule, but African countries have in many cases declined.

You can't speculate about the causes of Black social problems in a vacuum when there are so many comparisons amply available. Is it really the case that White people decided to stop being racist towards Asians and Jews etc but decided to carry on being racist towards Blacks after formal/legal discrimination ended? That's basically what you would have to believe to use the "legacy of racism/continued discrimination" excuse for current Black problems.

I'd like to point out that it's not a choice between White racism and Black inferiority either. Another possibility is Black cultural attitudes holding them back.

[harjit]

Correction:

So it is too extreme a statement to assert that there is no discrimination against blacks at all, just as it is to say that racism is dead.

I meant to type "rampant and all-pervasive", not "dead". The opposite.

[Warka]

I'd like to point out that it's not a choice between White racism and Black inferiority either. Another possibility is Black cultural attitudes holding them back.

I'd accept that. Technically, however, this would mean they're then culturally inferior- another position I doubt many anti-racists would accept. One great problem for them would be the natural question: why are they culturally inferior? The (correct) answer to this brings the discussion full circle, back to my original position- genetic inferiority.

Or, well, I suppose racism could be another answer. ;)

This serves to demonstrate the logic failure of the typical anti-racist position.

[Empress Cheesatine]

If this happens it categorically demonstrates that racism is a bankrupt and invalid proposition consigned to the few who have little scope to look beyond colour for societies issues.

This demonstrates nothing more that the American people are emotion-driven media-malleable herd animals. The media's endless BLAME BUSH tirades successfully hijacked the 2006 elections. Add to this endless propaganda pushing niggers onto whites like candy and demonizing any and all expressions of white identity and self-love, and you have the average Ameritard.

:ameritard2:

Leftists the world over have been using the election of this crossover white-reared half-breed whose never lived in a real black community all his life to demonstrate some great moral triumph in America - as if whites giving up control of their own country is a triumph - and has nothing to do with a slick campaign in a perfect storm fueled by economics and war. Newsflash: Whites in general have always had more loyalty to their wallets than their race. That's why negroes were imported to begin with. D'oh. Had there not been an unpopular war coupled with an economic crisis, Obama would have long ago returned to Chicago.

I do wonder what happened to the white awakening? Did it go back to sleep, or more likely enter a terminal coma? I do feel vindicated from a non racist view point that racists are in fact a fringe minority and the racism that people on this and other forums, claim is bubbling under the surface is nothing more than their hopeful fantasy.

That few whites marry outside their race and live in racially mixed areas is ample evidence that we continue to prefer our own. If this is a problem for you, tough shit.

The benefit of Obama's timing is that American whites can experience in-your-face political correctness and endless race baiting and racial harassment from blacks without having lost demographic control of their country first. Make no bones about it, we still own and control this country through and through.

As a great man once said,

"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character."

Seems as though character now trumps colour.

Obama has no character, unless you like dirty politics, empty promises, hard left politics, sexist attacks and race card playing.

Martin Luther King, like Obama coincidentally, hobnobbed with various brands of Socialists and Communists who helped their careers. This alone should send up red flags among anyone who wasn't born last night. If you are supported by people like that, there is something wrong with you.

Lesson: YOU-DO-NOT-TAKE-MORAL-LESSONS-FROM-A-COMMIE.

[MrAngry]

I can't speak for Mr. Angry, but none of thoughts being tossed around in this thread have to be extreme and absolute.

There are certainly differences between the races. Our eyes alone tell us that. Of course these differences can also bear out in criminality, education, etc. I'm certainly not of the position of harsh coincidental biological equality.

At the same time, there are also many changeable social factors that affect black performance adversely. To argue that there are none whatsoever is as extreme as an anti-racist arguing 100% perfect equality.

I don't know the precise point at which the weights of either of the above lie, don't have the time for digging and researching.

I also don't believe that racists are some extreme fringe minority. Most people are racist to some degree or another, along a continuum. Most people probably have some degree of skepticism about blacks (I bet including many blacks themselves). Maybe a minority of whites would refuse to vote for a black candidate. A much smaller minority yet are politicized racial separatists.

So it is too extreme a statement to assert that there is no discrimination against blacks at all, just as it is to say that racism is dead.


I do believe that white racists are an extreme and minority fringe group, racists actually believe that they are superior and that other races do not deserve to be among them and should be treated as inferior or removed.

Now if it was suggest that there are people who are colour prejudiced then I'd accept that as much as I would if it was suggested that some people are prejudiced against ginger haired people, or Scotsmen or the French.

I believe that "Affirmative action" and the Human Rights Act were both conceived to redress what was felt at the time, years of discrimination against blacks and minorities in general. Trying to force out one form of discrimination for another was a huge mistake which leads and has led to resentment among the people it disadvantaged. It also has led to some of today's new generation of blacks and other minorities developing a victim mentality and sense of deserving to be compensated and tolerated for past mistreatments that they did not suffer.

The real crux is that it has been one generation since the 60's and that generation started in poverty and only now we see that there are real successes among minorities, in sport, in the media and in politics, so the next generation will improve further once the mechanism that supports all that is bad about their culture is removed.

Just to balance this there is also a chav underclass in the UK and I would suggest that it's equivalent exists in the US, they also have a questionable culture, with the same behavioural patterns, the same victim mentalities and the same mechanisms that allows them to sustain their lifestyles. This isn't about race it's about class.

[Death]

Mr. Angry you are so full of crap and everyone on here knows it. Your handle is Mr. Angry. Why so? You should be very happy that one of your ilk is now the leader of the Free World. You have too much hate in your heart. You should demand your pants back from your Jewish wife.

[MrAngry]

Mr. Angry you are so full of crap and everyone on here knows it. Your handle is Mr. Angry. Why so? You should be very happy that one of your ilk is now the leader of the Free World. You have too much hate in your heart. You should demand your pants back from your Jewish wife.


A forum that is predominately populated by,

1. Scum racists.
2. Racists.
3. Pseudo intellectual racists.
4. Racialists.
5. Racist victims.

I'm full of crap and everyone on here knows it...... :bbbat:

Go figure, :rofl:

[Allegheny]

The real crux is that it has been one generation since the 60's and that generation started in poverty and only now we see that there are real successes among minorities, in sport, in the media and in politics, so the next generation will improve further once the mechanism that supports all that is bad about their culture is removed.


Sport -- ridiculous example. Why should we care about minority success in sports?

Media & Politics -- this proves that non-Asian minorities can be successful in rigged contests.

Alert me when we start seeing blacks or Mexicans being even proportionally represented among engineers, competent physicians, etc.

[Allegheny]

A forum that is predominately populated by,

1. Scum racists.
2. Racists.
3. Pseudo intellectual racists.
4. Racialists.
5. Racist victims.

I'm full of crap and everyone on here knows it...... :bbbat:

Go figure, :rofl:

You are, and it's likely you're too dense to comprehend it.

[Allegheny]

Just to balance this there is also a chav underclass in the UK and I would suggest that it's equivalent exists in the US, they also have a questionable culture, with the same behavioural patterns, the same victim mentalities and the same mechanisms that allows them to sustain their lifestyles. This isn't about race it's about class.

In the United States, even the most deprived whites (in W. Virginia) outscore even the most successful blacks (in Washington state) on grade-school assessments of reading, writing, and mathematics ability.

Why?

Middle class blacks perform far below middle class whites and Asians.

Why?

[Death]

A forum that is predominately populated by,

1. Scum racists.
2. Racists.
3. Pseudo intellectual racists.
4. Racialists.
5. Racist victims.

I'm full of crap and everyone on here knows it...... :bbbat:

Go figure, :rofl:


Aren’t you the clever one? Your girly comeback tells me that your wife still has your pants.