Angelic Beauty

[Petyr Baelish]

Anyone who denies the aesthetic superiority of the Nordic race is either bitter or delusional.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/04/wisener_gallery__303x400.jpg

[harjit]

Dunno...

http://img.barks.jp/image/review/1000030497/uehara-n.jpg

[Petyr Baelish]

Dunno...

http://img.barks.jp/image/review/1000030497/uehara-n.jpg
:sick:

How do the Japanese react to Indians miscegenating with Japanese women, out of curiosity? From what I understand, East Asian women have a fairly strong preference for fair-complected men.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Anyone who denies the aesthetic superiority of the Nordic race is either bitter or delusional.
Not putting her down, but every man has a face that pushes his buttons. (And quite often it looks uncannily like his own mother when he was an infant, or some other female relative form whom he had a lot of heart.) This one doesn't do much for me. She even looks slightly skanky to me rather than "angelic." At best, she's "cute." (She also should tame her hair before going out in public.) A puckish sprite with an unusually long, pointed chin relative to the proportions of her mouth. The small nose relative to larger eyes gives here that childlike appearance that is appealing to so many men. If crowing about Nordic looks, choose a Nordic who has more classical beauty. I prefer the elegance and Aryan regalness of the fuller featured Nordic face, like these three:

http://images.nymag.com/fashion/models/sseymour/sseymour_profile.jpg http://julianlee.com/GillianAnderson03SmallCrop.jpg http://celibacy.info/WhiteBlondePageboyGirl.jpg

Left-to-right: Model Stephanie Seymour, actress Gillian Anderson, and an example of a fuller-featured Aryan female but more refined features, from an older glamour magazine.

Analyzed, I suppose all these have strong cheekbones, full chins but not too full, strong brow lines, and high foreheads (like the girl in your pic.) I would note these features are also regularly presented in depictions of Indian deities such as Shiva in my avatar.

They also have moderate-to-small mouths. I deplore the trend of the huge-mouthed "female beauty" ala Julia Roberts and Kyra Sedgwick, mouths once considered self-evidently ugly. The sample you provided has a very small mouth, which was the beauty ideal in in earlier times when women were valued for being abstemious is eating and speech. (The large-mouthed beauty ideal corresponds to a time when women are encouraged to be indulgent and talk too much.) It's unfortunate that Seymour has smeared her lipstick out to enlarge her lips in that pic, or she'd look even better.

Of course, we have to remember that female looks fade fast, and women should learn to strike a good bargain while the bloom is still on, then make themselves valued by developing servicefullness and loyalty rather than relying on youthful beauty. Men, too, should learn to value them for that same loyalty and servicefullness, rather than just their capacity to turn him on, and tune his eyes only to her as she ages. Too much is made of youthful female beauty in the west now, making men stupid and young women corrupt, and destined for unhappiness as they age.

Dunno...
The best of my own people are of course most beautiful to me. But in this case, the Asian women presented by Harjit is more beautiful than the northern woman in the first post, at least that particular photo. Better overall proportions in the features. Everybody knows the Asians have some of the most beautiful women on the planet. May they resist Jewish race-mixing propaganda and preserve their unique beauty on this planet.

[Petyr Baelish]

I was looking at Anya Monzikova just before, she was in CSI and Tropic Thunder.

She has a strong Uralic strain, evident in the nose and cheekbones (figures, as she's from an area of Russia where the population derives largely from Russianized Finnic tribes).

[Petyr Baelish]

She even looks slightly skanky to me rather than "angelic."

I think her breasts are real :p.

A puckish sprite with an unusually long, pointed chin relative to the proportions of her mouth.

A pronounced chin is one of the hallmarks of the Nordic racial type. Also keep in mind that she is smiling.

Choose a Nordic who has more classical beauty.

I think she's pretty damn close to classical conceptions of feminine beauty especially as interpreted by the Italian Renaissance. Have you seen her in Sweeney Todd?

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2007_Sweeney_Todd:_The_Demon_Barber_of_Fleet_Street/2007_sweeney_todd_032.jpg

But in this case, the Asian women presented by Harjit is easily more beautiful than the northern woman in the first post.

Nonsense. Jayne Wisener's female ancestors are the reason the Angles earned that name.

Nordic women are idolized the world over for their beauty. The only people who consider East Asian women to be paragons of beauty are white American men with inferiority complexes.

[Arrow Cross]

The girl in the OP beats them all. :p But whatever happened to the Phora not having babes' threads...

[harjit]

:sick:
Are you joking, or do you lack a pulse? :confused:

How do the Japanese react to Indians miscegenating with Japanese women, out of curiosity?
I have no idea.

Of course I've never openly received negative feedback, nor have I sensed any kind of unspoken chilly reception. I don't think the average person in any country, outside avowed racists, care much about other people miscegenating, unless it's their own daughter.

Speaking of daughters, I asked my wife why her parents never objected to our marriage (and not even to her, apparently). Her answer was "My mom likes things that are new and different and strange." :rofl:

From what I understand, East Asian women have a fairly strong preference for fair-complected men.
This is true.

But if you're a normal or better looking adult male, of any race, who is bold enough to get dates in the West you can do so here no problem. In fact it's easier here. For one thing rejection is far gentler and more face-saving.

But I've been out of the fray for 14 years now... kinda miss it. :)

Blacks have it easier than other non-whites, because there is a swath of J-girls who are into black men, and who considerably outnumber black men. Interestingly, J-mudsharks bear some similarities to white mudsharks, many being overweight and skanky. A normal J-girl who's not overweight will not have the booty size most black men require.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

I think her breasts are real :p.
Yeah. That whole "wench's pushed up breast" thing is o.k. in it's place. But it's part of the overall skank impression. I think some faces can get away with that without looking like tarts, and some can't. She can't.
I think she's pretty damn close to classical conceptions of feminine beauty especially as interpreted by the Italian Renaissance. Have you seen her in Sweeney Todd?
She's a beautiful girl, and I'm sure in other presentations she's even more appealing to the eye than the pic you used. You can see she has striking features. But she's a specialty type, a "cute" type. And not my type. Every fellow has his tastes. The "staring" look she has in that pic doesn't help it, either.
Nonsense. Jayne Wisener's female ancestors are the reason the Angles earned that name.
Fine, fine. Maybe you just chose a bad pic.
Nordic women are idolized the world over for their beauty.
That's true, and if we have a little class about it, that might continue to be true, with such beauty associated with nobility, virtue, and heart rather than just pride or vanity.
The only people who consider East Asian women to be paragons of beauty are white American men with inferiority complexes.
"Paragons of beauty" is your phrase, not mine. I just said that the Asians had their beauties. Every people has its beauties. Learn to talk that way, and the Nordics might just survive. Note that they are not idolized openly as "Nordic," "Aryan," or ever "White women" anymore. And that is precisely because some fellows have a way of making racial pride unattractive. One of the ways they make it unattractive is by disparaging the looks of other peoples, or by refusing to acknowledge any beauty in them. :cool:

Men don't need inferiority complexes to acknowledge that every people has its beautiful women. Men with inferiority complexes are probably the ones who can't acknowledge beauty in other men's women. No people is more beautiful, to me, than my own kind. And I consider it psychologically unnatural as well as racially disloyal for Caucasian men today to mate with Asians. That doesn't mean I can't acknowledge the beauty of other peoples. Do that, and Jews lose some of their rationale and cause to keep destroying the White peoples by teaching them that racial pride is ignoble. It's a very small thing to acknowledge beauty in various peoples.

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[Helios Panoptes]

Anyone who denies the aesthetic superiority of the Nordic race is either bitter or delusional.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/04/wisener_gallery__303x400.jpg

The girl above is beautiful, but she has some property which I'm unable to place that prevents me from viewing her in a sexual manner. I often feel this way about Nordic women; I recognize their aesthetic qualities but am not personally attracted.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Inspiration from a woman's beauty, or admiration of it, is not necessarily connected to erections. In fact, registering beauty absent the feeling of lust is probably a better assayer of true beauty.

I used to consider certain women beautiful when I was just a little boy and didn't know what lust was.

[Helios Panoptes]

Inspiration from a woman's beauty, or admiration of it, is not necessarily connected to erections. In fact, beauty admired without any feeling of lust is probably a better assayer of true beauty.

Yes, I agree with this.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

You had written in some early posts about the male attraction for "neonatonous" looks or something -- childlike characteristics in the female. With her very small nose, making the eyes seem larger and the pointed chin, making the forehead larger, this actress has that quality. It's natural and true: We like women with these qualities because it conveys innocence which conveys purity, spirit, and some possibility of openness or adaptability. But with this one the "childlike" aspect is just too patent for me. Plus I can't get attracted to a woman, on any level, who has made a studied mess of her hair. It gives the seductive suggestion "I just crawled out of bed, you're right in my private quarters with me," and that's just one thing I dislike about wild hair on women. It's such a Jewish thing, too.

[Helios Panoptes]

You had written in some early posts about the male attraction for "neonatonous" looks or something -- childlike characteristics in the female. With her very small nose, making the eyes seem larger and the pointed chin, making the forehead larger, this actress is like that quality.

These are very general features which pretty much all attractive women share in common. They're not specific enough to pin down a "type."

[Julian Curtis Lee]

To me it's a "puckish" or "cherub" type, or alternatively a "wench" type, that fails to suggest maturity or wisdom. And in the photo presented, the mouth is so small, relative to her other features, that she is almost a caricature. She would be cast in the parts of a fairies or mystical creatures.

I do appreciate in this one, though, how she has such a strong brow. Clear brows on women suggest intelligence. It looks like this one's eyebrows did not perish in the recent Eyebrow Holocaust although part of that is pencil. Young women who already have to pencil on eyebrows depress me. Lack of eyebrows or very thin ones creates a "moron" impression and it's really tragic what many young women have done to their brows from vanity.

[Ahknaton]

Plus I can't get attracted to a woman, on any level, who has made a studied mess of her hair. It gives the seductive suggestion "I just crawled out of bed, you're right in my private quarters with me," and that's just one thing I dislike about wild haired women.
That's funny, I've always wondered what made the messy-hair look seem so sexual but didn't know what it was. You just hit the nail on the head I think.
The girl above is beautiful, but she has some property which I'm unable to place that prevents me from viewing her in a sexual manner. I often feel this way about Nordic women; I recognize their aesthetic qualities but am not personally attracted.
I have the same reaction to (some) Nordic women that I find attractive on an aesthetic level. I had always assumed it was some kind of anti-inbreeding reaction, but I also get it with a lot of East Asians. I think it's just that they look too childlike. Also, I don't like cute, dainty females.
A pronounced chin is one of the hallmarks of the Nordic racial type. Also keep in mind that she is smiling.
It is pronounced, but it doesn't look particularly strong. It is very "sharp". Compare with the news anchor in Julian's YouTube video (who I find much more sexually attractive) - the news anchor has a much stronger chin.

(Disclaimer: this discussion is taking place 100% in Internet fantasy-land, realistically of course I wouldn't throw her out of bed for eating crackers).

[Julian Curtis Lee]

It is pronounced, but it doesn't look particularly strong. It is very "sharp". Compare with the news anchor in Julian's YouTube video (who I find much more sexually attractive) - the news anchor has a much stronger chin.
The actress' chin is probably distorted by her smile. Again, I imagine there are better shots of this actress. Yes, Laura Ingraham has a great look. Plus, she can think like a man and you could talk politics with her till the cows come home. I could never live with that kind of grating voice, and of course she's a Zionist tool. But great bone structure. :) Jews love to use Nordics to destroy Nordics. It would be less fun for them otherwise.

[Jake Featherston]

Anyone who denies the aesthetic superiority of the Nordic race is either bitter or delusional.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/04/wisener_gallery__303x400.jpg

Colour me bitter or delusional then. I much prefer Med-looking women, as well as pale-skinned, redhaired, blue or green eyed Celtic wenches (although the latter might be termed a variant of Nordic as well, depending on how narrowly or broadly one defines the term).

The chick you posted a pic of is attractive, yes, but not exceedingly so. She's definitely not my ideal type (other than for the fact she's White, female, and within the acceptable age range).

If there's any region of Europe I'd say encompassed the ideal of female beauty, I'd note Northern Italy in that regard, which is interesting, because its a sort of genetic crossroads where the blood of Meds, Germanics, and Celts (and even some South Slavs) have been greatly mixed over the eons.

[Helios Panoptes]

To me it's a type that fails to suggest maturity or wisdom.

Cross-cultural studies show that paedomorphic traits are generally favored by men, but you could be an outlier. These things aren't 100% obviously.

[Jake Featherston]

I prefer the elegance and Aryan regalness of the fuller featured Nordic face, like Stephanie Seymour's:

http://images.nymag.com/fashion/models/sseymour/sseymour_profile.jpg

Far superior to the woman in the OP, IMHO.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Colour me bitter or delusional then. I much prefer Med-looking women...
We have our attractions because of family resonances, and what our own mother looked like, basically. It's always tricky to say "Here's the highest beauty" for all men. He is expressing more a personal crush rather than celebrating the Nordic beauty more broadly. On the other hand, I think it's good to express pride in racial excellences, including the unique beauty of White women, especially now. For this, I am pleased with the thread and the general intention of the thread founder.
...as well as pale-skinned, redhaired, blue or green eyed Celtic wenches (although the latter might be termed a variant of Nordic as well, depending on how narrowly or broadly one defines the term).
They are my terrible weakness as well.
If there's any region of Europe I'd say encompassed the ideal of female beauty, I'd note Northern Italy in that regard...
I talked with a fellow who recently visited Northern Italy around Bologna and he remarked about this. It made me curious to go there. He said the Italians there are a mix with Nordics, and some had red hair.

[Jake Featherston]

Cross-cultural studies show that paedomorphic traits are generally favored by men, but you could be an outlier. These things aren't 100% obviously.

I'm definitely an outlier in that regard. Youth looks very good on the young, so sometimes I see a high school girl that looks spectacularly gorgeous (which is largely a hormonal thing, I suspect; many of these girls will be quite ordinary in a few years), but overly youthful traits are not visually appealing to me in women in theirs 20s & 30s. I like adult women who look like adults. I'm 38, and some of the women 5-10 years old older than myself attract me the most. Elegant beauties who don't look remotely youthful.

[Jake Featherston]

We have our attractions because of family resonances, and what our own mother looked like, basically. It's dumb to say "Here's the highest beauty" for all men.

Yeah, and while my mother is 100% Irish, she actually looks more like a Med woman (she's from the Irish sub-population known as "the Black Irish"). Apparently, Black Irish women were so popular among Viking men, and thus so many of them taken as wives, that there now exists a Danish sub-population known as "the Black Danes."

I takeld with a fellow who recently visited Northern Italy around Bologna and he remarked about this. It made me curious to go there. He said the Italians there are a mix with Nordics, and some had red hair.

Northern Italy (the non-peninsular) part, was once a Celtic-dominated region, known as Cisalpine Gaul. Gaul is basically an alternative spelling of Gael, with the traditional Celtic languages of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, the Isle of Man, Cornwall, and French Breton being considered forms of Gaelic.

[Member 198]

Are you joking, or do you lack a pulse? :confused:

This question wasn't addressed to me, but I have to say, the girl you posted isn't all that attractive. Very plain looking, and almost androgynous.

[Ahknaton]

Dunno...

http://img.barks.jp/image/review/1000030497/uehara-n.jpg
For some reason East Asians seem to love this kind of high-contrast soft focus photography. Perhaps it is supposed to evoke cartoony line-based art like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a3/KitagawaUtamaro_FlowersOfEdo.jpg/250px-KitagawaUtamaro_FlowersOfEdo.jpg

I was watching cable TV here in Korea and they have a "How-to" channel that teaches you (amongst other things) how to use Photoshop, and one of the things they showed was how to give this effect to your own photos. It's quite a cool show.

[harjit]

Men don't need inferiority complexes to acknowledge that every people has its beautiful women. Men with inferiority complexes are probably the ones who can't acknowledge beauty in other men's women. So people is more beautiful, to me, than those of my own kind. And I consider it psychologically unnatural as well as racially disloyal for Caucasian men today to mate with Asians. That doesn't mean I can't acknowledge the beauty of other peoples. Do that, and Jews lose some of their rationale and cause to keep destroying the White peoples by teaching them that racial pride is ignoble.

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Hey Julian, did you know that Laura Ingraham was once engaged to Dinesh D'Souza? :D
http://www.nndb.com/people/810/000049663/dsouzanew-sm.jpg

BTW, Dinesh is also the guy who got Sam Francis (your hero?) fired from some mainstream newspaper.

[Jake Featherston]

BTW, Dinesh is also the guy who got Sam Francis (your hero?) fired from some mainstream newspaper.

Not really. Sam Francis always knew that as soon as he started speaking at American Renaissance meetings, his days at The Washington Times were numbered. So Francis is the one who made the decision to expose himself to eventual betrayal, as he did so quite consciously. D'Souza is just the opportunistic little worm (he frankly looks like a worm) who pulled the trigger attatched to a pistol that Sam Francis had left next to his mainstream journalistic career, with a little label that said "Shoot me." Speaking at American Renaissance meetings was his way of retiring from mainstream journalism, and he was a little surprised just how long it took for someone to rat him out. But he never was under the impression that some rat wouldn't eventually stab him in the back. D'Souza accomplished nothing but the attachment of ever-lasting shame to his own name (in D'Souza'a own book, The End of Racism, where he attended an American Renaissance meeting and thus "discovered" Sam Francis' very public role within that group, Mr. D'Souza went on to basically endorse most of the very same "racist" public policy proposals endorsed by Dr. Francis and Jared Taylor, but was able to get away with it because he's a Zionist toadie with dark skin, the fucking worthless, no good, piece of shit hypocrite).

[Julian Curtis Lee]

This question wasn't addressed to me, but I have to say, the girl you posted isn't all that attractive. Very plain looking, and almost androgynous.
That Asian girl is an Asian beauty. I wouldn't date her. But she's an Asian beauty. Give her oval eyes and all these guys 'll be saying "Bow, wow, wow." I can't see the slightest thing masculine about her. She's delicate featured, soft, very feminine. How do you call that androgynous? Are men so feminine now that they see something masculine there? :confused: There's something slightly irrational going on in this analysis.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Hey Julian, did you know that Laura Ingraham was once engaged to Dinesh D'Souza? :D BTW, Dinesh is also the guy who got Sam Francis (your hero?) fired from some mainstream newspaper.
Stupid trash. Her race-mixing was probably why the Jews made her a star. (Just like Heidi Klum.) I never want to see her stupid face again.

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[Susan]

Isn't it sad that a thread about the so called beauty of the Aryan female always has to include only models and actresses? And almost all of them with fake tits pushed up into their chins? Any female can look like that, fake or not, boys. It's just a matter of getting yourself a nice little push up bra and letting it do its thing.

Why not make a thread and show pics of real White women for a change--just average everyday White females whom you have known or know now whom you believe to be particularly attractive. Otherwise, it's just another silly "babes" thread that actually has no meaning at all, here or in the real world.

And while I'm on this, I've been to SI and so I've seen some of your more disgusting comments about females in the babes threads over there. Yeah, tell us how you really feel about attractive females all you guys who are pretending to be so dignified, mature, and racially aware? Bwahahaha.

I love it.

[Winston]

I'm not really 'turned on' by the girl in the first post, or drawn to her in any other way, but at the same time I do think that she represents the very height of beauty. I've always felt that way about 'angelic' Nordic women, and it seems I'm not alone.

Men today seem to prefer women who look raunchy rather than valuing traditional feminine ideals of grace and chastity.

[Member 198]

That Asian girl is an Asian beauty. I wouldn't date her. But she's an Asian beauty. Give her oval eyes and all these guys 'll be saying "Bow, wow, wow." I can't see the slightest thing masculine about her. She's fine featured, soft, delicate featured, very feminine. So I don't know how you call her androgynous. :confused: There's something slightly irrational going on in this analysis.

If it weren't for her clothes, her very feminine looking hair, and the context in which her picture was posted, I most definitely would have had a hard time figuring out if she was a girl, or an effeminate Asian guy. She almost looks like she could pass as a young Asian boy in the early stages of puberty. I'm just being honest here.

For one thing rejection is far gentler and more face-saving.


Just curious, but how so?

Isn't it sad that a thread about the so called beauty of the Aryan female always has to include only models and actresses?

No disrespect here, but something tells me that you're jealous of women whose looks are especially popular with the fellas. Just a hunch.

Why not make a thread and show pics of real White women for a change--just average everyday White females whom you have known or know now whom you believe to be particularly attractive.

Uh... I don't know about you, but I highly doubt that the average white woman out there, would like the idea of some guy posting her pictures in a thread about beauty, for everyone to see, and critique. In fact, I think most of them would really dislike it, if someone did that. Especially on a forum like this.

[///M power]

I don't know why,but I think she is beautiful and looks great, but I don't feel attracted to her. This happens many times when I spot beautiful women like that but in an odd way I don't feel sexual attraction to them. "Regular" real women,I find more sexually attractive.
and by the way,I don't get the "push-up" bra attraction,I think that if she had a normal bra and top,where her breasts are loose a bit,natural looking- this would be attractive.

[Arrow Cross]

I KNEW it'd take a babes' thread to draw MP back!

[///M power]

I KNEW it'd take a babes' thread to draw MP back!

haha, it's easy to catch me I guess,nice bait. :rofl:

[Susan]

423: Yeah I was waiting for the first nitwit here to comment on the fact that it must be jealousy that caused me to comment about this thread.

Excuse me while I laugh my ass off, dearie. What are you, all of twenty years old? Oh, you just act like it, then?

You've just proven yourself fit for only forums such as SI and VNN with that fucking nonsense.

Uh, no, I am not jealous of anyone, not then or not now. It's hard for guys who have shit for sense to understand that some women can actually hold valid opinions of other attractive females that have nothing to do with jealousy or any other ridiculous notion.

Some of you guys think that by saying "yeah, I'd drill her, or I'd poke her" or some such other nonsense, that you somehow put that female into some sought after category that some not included feel somehow cheated or shortchanged for not being in. (And I'm sure if we could see what some of you looked like, we'd be even less impressed:rofl: ) Au contraire my little friend. Some would just as soon NOT be in that category, thank you all the same. Because from what I've seen of that category, it's usually a slutty looking female with fake breasts disgracing herself in a humiliating manner. No thanks.

That's not what being a decent White female is about. And there are plenty of good decent White men out there who feel exactly like I do and say so everyday on other pro White forums. And from what I've seen, they are every bit real White men.

You've identified yourself as a little worm, and your opinion of me means absolutely nothing.

I'm sure if I live long enough that I will no longer be physically attractive to most men. It happens, as do a lot of things in life, if you live long enough. A lot of men are no longer attractive to me either. But a lot of 45-65 year old men still look damn good to me, and vice versa.

You can compliment someone of the opposite sex without getting in the gutter like a nigger or jew. That is one of my points, for those of you who have the ability to comprehend such things. The other is that these threads only include slutty Hollywood or model types who usually have nigger or jew boyfriends or husbands, and the appeal of them frankly escapes me. They wouldn't give most of you the time of day.

And, now, let's see how long it takes for someone to label this a "menopausal rant" and I can get my second good laugh of the morning.

[Warka]

This question wasn't addressed to me, but I have to say, the girl you posted isn't all that attractive. Very plain looking, and almost androgynous.

Agreed. Not only this but the photograph is terrible (a goofy "MySpace" picture shot from an odd angle as to make the boring or plain appear interesting or exciting)- half the gal's head is cut off! The blonde in the first post, however, is exceptionally beautiful.

[Susan]

Muscle Power: Your comment on the "push up bra" phenomenon is well taken. Thirty or more years ago, when I was younger and wore bikinis, we didn't wear the kind they wear now. I was looking recently at some old pics and we just wore bathing tops that covered our breasts. We still looked attractive and shapely, but we didn't feel the need to show or advertise everything we had to the whole world. And we certainly did not wear thong bottoms. It wouldn't even have dawned on us to walk out of the house with our behinds showing. It wasn't considered decent, and our mothers and fathers wouldn't have allowed it anyway. No way.

But, as you all have proven in this original thread post, you won't show a female and consider her attractive unless she is showing cleavage and wearing a push up bra. Very rarely do I see a female shown who is not showing an ample amount of cleavage.

So, we have the vicious circle effect going here. Females see that they have to look like this or they won't garner attention from males, and so they all look like this to garner attention. And you all won't show many females who don't show cleavage, so they don't get attention when they don't show it. Voila.....nothing changes here.

But, you know something is wrong when 12 year old girls are wearing push up bras and showing cleavage. It's not being prudish, it's having standards that we can all adhere to that are good for our Race and good for our young people and that lift us up and distinguish us from the muds of the world.

At least that's the way I see it. You can beg to differ all you want.

[Arrow Cross]

On the other hand, while most of the pictured women are usually unattractive, these babes' threads offer another, different kind of enjoyment, and it's reading the lenghty critiques of Susan-like female posters.

The delicacy with which she chooses her well-weaven words of offense and counter-offense to male posters like 423 is quite much amusing, and not in a sarcastic way. Spice it with all the disgust and contempt that older, conservative and more experienced women ofter feel towards young, trashy, modern and "unnatural" girls playing on young mens' sexual urges, and there you have a fine and whole babes' thread.

Well done, Susan, great style.

[///M power]

Muscle Power: Your comment on the "push up bra" phenomenon is well taken. Thirty or more years ago, when I was younger and wore bikinis, we didn't wear the kind they wear now. I was looking recently at some old pics and we just wore bathing tops that covered our breasts. We still looked attractive and shapely, but we didn't feel the need to show or advertise everything we had to the whole world. And we certainly did not wear thong bottoms. It wouldn't even have dawned on us to walk out of the house with our behinds showing. It wasn't considered decent, and our mothers and fathers wouldn't have allowed it anyway. No way.

But, as you all have proven in this original thread post, you won't show a female and consider her attractive unless she is showing cleavage and wearing a push up bra. Very rarely do I see a female shown who is not showing an ample amount of cleavage.

So, we have the vicious circle effect going here. Females see that they have to look like this or they won't garner attention from males, and so they all look like this to garner attention. And you all won't show many females who don't show cleavage, so they don't get attention when they don't show it. Voila.....nothing changes here.

But, you know something is wrong when 12 year old girls are wearing push up bras and showing cleavage. It's not being prudish, it's having standards that we can all adhere to that are good for our Race and good for our young people and that lift us up and distinguish us from the muds of the world.

At least that's the way I see it. You can beg to differ all you want.

well, I think men like to look at cleavages,but most wouldn't want their partners/wives to wear cloths that expose too much cleavage(I'm not talking about small cleavage which is sexy).
Single women are not stupid,they know that if they go out with huge cleavages the only attention they are going to get is from guys that don't have any serious attentions to them and that are looking for just the sex stuff. Who is stupid enough to want a female partner that goes out half nude?

[Larrikin]

And while I'm on this, I've been to SI and so I've seen some of your more disgusting comments about females in the babes threads over there. Yeah, tell us how you really feel about attractive females all you guys who are pretending to be so dignified, mature, and racially aware? Bwahahaha.

Acting boldly on babe threads is pretty much what Stumbleinn is all about.
Everything else is just a very thin pretentious cover-up...

I'd like to note that the standard of beauty is affected by culture, self-image and media projection. A timeless and global ideal of female (or male) beauty does not exist, I guess. Ruben's pale sturdy baroque women would not be considered attractive today by most people for example.

Maybe the strongest factor in the personal perception of human beauty is (in my opinion) the sight of people you're affected to when young. Apart from my family, I think I admired Pipi Longstocking so much that it turned into a certain crush for freckled read-heads (though actually only one of my girlfriends ever had red hair).

[Susan]

Here is an example of the kind of model who was considered very pretty when I was a young girl, back in the late sixties, early seventies: Colleen Corby. Now, I don't know if she is a jew or not. I couldn't find any information about that. But, when I was reading Seventeen magazine, way back when, I just always thought she was very pretty. And she wasn't vulgar in her modeling, but then most weren't back then. They appeared prim and chaste, just pretty.

http://msnusers.com/ColleenCorby

There are a few other websites for her as well. Apparently, she was the favorite of a lot of young girls back then.

[Winston]

Acting boldly on babe threads is pretty much what Stumbleinn is all about.
Everything else is just a very thin pretentious cover-up...

I'd like to note that the standard of beauty is affected by culture, self-image and media projection. A timeless and global ideal of female (or male) beauty does not exist, I guess. Ruben's pale sturdy baroque women would not be considered attractive today by most people for example.

Maybe the strongest factor in the personal perception of human beauty is (in my opinion) the sight of people you're affected to when young. Apart from my family, I think I admired Pipi Longstocking so much that it turned into a certain crush for freckled read-heads (though actually only one of my girlfriends ever had red hair).

I'm aware of Ruben's paintings, naturally, but do they exemplify the sort of women who were genuinely considered the most attractive at the time, or do they just depict what the artist himself found desirable?

I doubt if there was ever a time in history where the girl in the first post wouldn't have been considered extremely beautiful. She would have broken hearts in Ruben's time just as she does now.

'Public opinion' is borrowed opinion. The names that come up on lists of people whom the public consider the most attractive aren't necessarily anything other than well-marketed brands, and don't always represent peoples' true inclinations. I'm not saying that people are hoodwinked into claiming they're attracted to people that they really are not. People find appealing a great variety of human forms, and can be enticed into making choices based on media and peer pressure. I don't believe that what changes is a 'standard of beauty' as such. This is supported by the fact that a lot of people here don't find the angelic blonde girl terribly desirable, and yet they still acknowledge that she is extremely beautiful.

[Larrikin]

I'm aware of Ruben's paintings, naturally, but do they exemplify the sort of women who were genuinely considered the most attractive at the time, or do they just depict what the artist himself found desirable?

The 16th/17th century ideal strongly tended to sturdy women. Just have a look at Titian's Venus, a symbol of feminine beauty.

http://bp3.blogger.com/_vuWh7QgB40A/Rq6g0nbVIyI/AAAAAAAAABo/AykDrsPSUwk/s320/439px-Anadyomene.jpghttp://www.opaintings.com/images/titian/titian-9.jpg

I doubt if there was ever a time in history where the girl in the first post wouldn't have been considered extremely beautiful. She would have broken hearts in Ruben's time just as she does now.

Hard to tell, he might have felt for her because she looked so thin an malnourished to him.

[Kostya Novoselov]

A timeless and global ideal of female (or male) beauty does not exist, I guess.

I think that when it comes to male beauty, hyperion could raise some pretty hard objections and disagree with you here.

[Larrikin]

I think that when it comes to male beauty, hyperion could raise some pretty hard objections and disagree with you here.
I don't think a greek statue would have went well as beauty ideal with 19th century Samoans, for example, and viking-style "nordic god" might have looked obscene to the ancient Japanese.

[Curatrix]

Perhaps this is the answer:

Psychological research suggests that people generally choose mates with a similar level of attractiveness. The evolutionary theory is that by mating with someone who has similar genes, one's own genes are conserved.

http://www.jyi.org/volumes/volume6/issue6/features/feng.html

You might ask if those lamenting their inability to mate are shopping in the wrong section.

[Jake Featherston]

I'm sure if I live long enough that I will no longer be physically attractive to most men. It happens, as do a lot of things in life, if you live long enough. A lot of men are no longer attractive to me either. But a lot of 45-65 year old men still look damn good to me, and vice versa.

I think its Nature's way that a lot of us become attracted to people-of-the-opposite-sex within our own age group, irrespective of what that age group is. The Persian girls (late teens-early 20s) in the apartment across the way are all quite lovely to look at, but its their mother I seriously lust after. The girls are prettier, but my animalistic urge to just, well, you know, is a lot stronger with the woman in my own age group.

[Member 198]

423: Yeah I was waiting for the first nitwit here to comment on the fact that it must be jealousy that caused me to comment about this thread.

Excuse me while I laugh my ass off, dearie. What are you, all of twenty years old? Oh, you just act like it, then?

You've just proven yourself fit for only forums such as SI and VNN with that fucking nonsense.

Uh, no, I am not jealous of anyone, not then or not now. It's hard for guys who have shit for sense to understand that some women can actually hold valid opinions of other attractive females that have nothing to do with jealousy or any other ridiculous notion.

Some of you guys think that by saying "yeah, I'd drill her, or I'd poke her" or some such other nonsense, that you somehow put that female into some sought after category that some not included feel somehow cheated or shortchanged for not being in. (And I'm sure if we could see what some of you looked like, we'd be even less impressed:rofl: ) Au contraire my little friend. Some would just as soon NOT be in that category, thank you all the same. Because from what I've seen of that category, it's usually a slutty looking female with fake breasts disgracing herself in a humiliating manner. No thanks.

That's not what being a decent White female is about. And there are plenty of good decent White men out there who feel exactly like I do and say so everyday on other pro White forums. And from what I've seen, they are every bit real White men.

You've identified yourself as a little worm, and your opinion of me means absolutely nothing.

I'm sure if I live long enough that I will no longer be physically attractive to most men. It happens, as do a lot of things in life, if you live long enough. A lot of men are no longer attractive to me either. But a lot of 45-65 year old men still look damn good to me, and vice versa.

You can compliment someone of the opposite sex without getting in the gutter like a nigger or jew. That is one of my points, for those of you who have the ability to comprehend such things. The other is that these threads only include slutty Hollywood or model types who usually have nigger or jew boyfriends or husbands, and the appeal of them frankly escapes me. They wouldn't give most of you the time of day.

And, now, let's see how long it takes for someone to label this a "menopausal rant" and I can get my second good laugh of the morning.

Way to completely evade explaining the comment which caused me to post the "you must be jealous" post. Sure goes a long way to proving me right about you. All you can reply to my post with, are flames and irrelevancies to the point in question, as if you were in anyway addressing anything that I brought up in my post. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[La Cosa Blanca]

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/04/wisener_gallery__303x400.jpg
:rageagainstthepc:

Ughhhh, It is not a Nordid and it isn't very attractive either.

How the hell does a thread that starts like this end up with 5+ pages?

[Curatrix]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Da_Vinci_Vitruve_Luc_Viatour.jpg/200px-Da_Vinci_Vitruve_Luc_Viatour.jpg

Speaking of beauty and symmetry:

Striking similarities between the brains of gay men and straight women have been discovered by neuroscientists, offering fresh evidence that sexual orientation is hardwired into our neural circuitry.

Scans reveal homosexual men and heterosexual women have symmetrical brains, with the right and left hemispheres almost exactly the same size. Conversely, lesbians and straight men have asymmetrical brains, with the right hemisphere significantly larger than the left.

[Curatrix]

IfNo disrespect here, but something tells me that you're jealous of women whose looks are especially popular with the fellas. Just a hunch.
Yes as a lovely proud attractive and experienced white woman, there is nothing more I want than some inept 'boy' crawling all over me unsure exactly what goes where and unable to control his dribble.

PICK ME!....PICK ME!

[Member 198]

Curatrix, I'm going to assume that you meant to give Susan that positive rep, instead of me (as I don't see why you would make the comment, "They are just so predictable", about my post, especially when taken with your post in this thread).

Yes as a lovely proud attractive and experienced white woman, there is nothing more I want than some inept 'boy' crawling all over me unsure exactly what goes where and unable to control his dribble.

PICK ME!....PICK ME!

Like that has anything to do with it. More irrelevant bullshit.

[Isra'il Yahya]

:rageagainstthepc:

Ughhhh, It is not a Nordid and it isn't very attractive either.

How the hell does a thread that starts like this end up with 5+ pages?

Correct, the face is not long enough. Nordics are a long faced race, much like their mediterranean ancestors and cousins. Although there are "nordish" or "nordids" who are mesocephalic it must be noted that true nords are dolicocephalic.

[Curatrix]

Curatrix, I'm going to assume that you meant to give Susan that positive rep, instead of me (as I don't see why you would make the comment, "They are just so predictable", about my post, especially when taken with your post in this thread). Like that has anything to do with it. More irrelevant bullshit.
No I meant the rep for YOUR predictability.

Being able to count on someone is what makes great team moves possible, and again thx from the team.

[Curatrix]

Aside from symmetry, males in Western cultures generally prefer females with a small jaw, a small nose, large eyes, and defined cheekbones - features often described as "baby faced", that resemble an infant'shttp://www.jyi.org/volumes/volume6/issue6/features/feng.html
The Helen of this Thread meets the criteria described above. However, not really symmetrical and more a cartoon or caracature of those elements.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Isn't it sad that a thread about the so called beauty of the Aryan female always has to include only models and actresses?
I wouldn't post real people because it would be unkind and unfair to them to place them in that situation. The one sad thing is that you wouldn't think of that. So I posted models and actresses to avoid disturbing or abusing decent females. I basically don't respect actresses and models, who make their living being admired (or lusted after) anyway, so they are fair game for posting in profane places as specimens for discussion.
And almost all of them with fake tits pushed up into their chins.
I posted three faces, none of them featuring below-the-neck. Then Delos posted another (Monzikova) but only her face. Then Harjit posted a woman, again nothing at all of her chest. Then Laura Ingraham was posted, but in a businessy jacket and well covered up. All but one were head shots or covered up. So you appear to be confused. Then the one pic showing 'cleavage' did not look fake or very large, and they were not extremely pushed up. Meanwhile, the "pushed up" thing was already derided in another post. Try to pay attention.

And "tits"? Why must you be crude? This had been a dignified, gentlemanly conversation before you entered.
Any female can look like that, fake or not, boys. It's just a matter of getting yourself a nice little push up bra and letting it do its thing.
Again, we're mostly talking about faces not "tits," girl. And not not "any female" can look like any other in the face. But relax, hon. Real beauty lies in loyalty and servicefulness anyway.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

...but at the same time I do think that she represents the very height of beauty.
Again, a matter of taste. Her face type, sort of a specialty character in the larger Nordic field of faces, strikes me as lacking dignity.
Men today seem to prefer women who look raunchy rather than valuing traditional feminine ideals of grace and chastity.
Yes, and that's because those men are becoming raunchy (degenerate) themselves. Moral men are only attracted to women who evoke those higher ideals.

The Jew who is the chief editor of America's leading whoring manual, Cosmo Magazine, is blaring "Sexy is Skanky" on the current cover of Cosmo. (It would have been too obvious to just say "Skanky is Sexy," so the clever Jew simply reversed it to confuse the dumber Gentile women.) It seems that Jews want White women to be sleazy and skanky whether White men would prefer that or not. Skanky is a huge turnoff to me. Just now, in the new coffee shop I'm visiting, there is a woman clerking who I find mildly attractive. I think of chatting with her, but the tattoos on her arm keep turning me off. I keep asking myself: "Would I really want a connection to a female who gets tattoos? No." Of course, I'm older and remember when only male carnival ride operators, and certain lower class former-military men, ever had tattoos. But those ideals will return. It represents impurity. When men value the pure, women value it.
...these babes' threads offer another, different kind of enjoyment, and it's reading the lenghty critiques of Susan-like female posters. The delicacy with which she chooses her well-weaven words...Well done, Susan, great style.
"Delicacy"? You are surely being facetious. There is no "delicacy" there. Her barbs are right in your face and she drips with disgust and venom. "Great style" only if you enjoy reading poisonous female rants at length. Here's all of her "delicacy" in the post you praise:


Excuse me while I laugh my ass off, dearie. What are you, all of twenty years old? Oh, you just act like it, then?

You've just proven yourself fit for only forums such as SI and VNN with that fucking nonsense.

...It's hard for guys who have shit for sense to understand...

Au contraire my little friend...

...You've identified yourself as a little worm, ...

and your opinion of me means absolutely nothing.

...But a lot of 45-65 year old men still look damn good to me, and vice versa. [Isn't she married?)

...You can compliment someone of the opposite sex without getting in the gutter like a nigger or jew. [she says from the gutter]...
Real delicate writing there. Loads of female subtlety! This woman's all class. I note she's the first poster here to use the words "fuck," "ass," "tits," "shit," "damn", and first to call other posters here demeaning names: "worm," "dearie," "boys," "shit for brains." Meanwhile she insists she's not angry or jealous to see other women admired, while informing us that other men find her attractive. And since she is ostensibly a married woman, why would she care about either item? (She even informs us other men "look damn good" to her.) :confused: Like I said, she's all class.

But it is somewhat entertaining, yes, to see her predictable reactions even if they belong in a dive bar on the bad side of town and not among gentlemen. (Gentile men.)

[Member 198]

No I meant the rep for YOUR predictability.

Being able to count on someone is what makes great team moves possible, and again thx from the team.

Of course what I said is predictable (given what Susan said). If someone goes to a restaurant and orders something, the people working at that restaurant are likely to give it to them. The same applies to my response to Susan's post (ie. if you say something stupid like that--something which reeks of jealousy--chances are someone is going to call you out on it). Yeah, real predictable there.... are you going to call the aforementioned restaurant situation predictable, too? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Your comment before this one was absolute drivel, by the way (I can't stress that enough). You try saying that "inept boy" bullshit, when there's a guy you really like, admiring models and actresses. And we all know that's why you're acting like this.

[Insert witty user name here]

Anyone who denies the aesthetic superiority of the Nordic race is either bitter or delusional.

Whether someone is aesthetically pleasing depends on facial symmentry. No particular phenotype has a monopoly on facial symmetry.

Although we should take note that Alpines, East-Baltids, and Classic (Gracile-) Mediterraneans tend to be more likely to become overweight after their 30s. So they may be cute now at 21 but in some years they may not fit through your door.

[Curatrix]

I basically don't respect actresses and medels, so they are fair game for posting in profane places as simple physical specimens for discussion. The private keep-her-mouth-shut obedient woman is to be honored; but, 'public' women don't deserve respect and are 'fair game'? Women work, play and live in both worlds.
. . . in the original gentlemanly post. . . . so this is just boys being boyish......er.........a...... gentlemen being gentlemanly?

But relax, hon. Real beauty lies in loyalty and servicefulness anyway.As the white race is dying out........AGAIN, A CLUE...........this isn't working......it is NOT WORKING.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

The private keep-her-mouth-shut obedient woman is to be honored; but, 'public' women don't deserve respect and are 'fair game'? Women work, play and live in both worlds.
Oh, that made you mad? Actually, you said that. It's not what I said. I said models and actresses are fair game for posting their faces, that private individuals should not be posted in these threads, and that I don't basically respect models and actresses. Try to pay attention. I also never used the word "obedient." However, it is right that wives should be as serviceful and loyal to their husbands at least as much as their husbands are serviceful and loyal to them (which is often very much the case). Those words shouldn't cause you to bristle. Get a clue. The White race is dying.
. . . so this is just boys being boyish......er.........a...... gentlemen being gentlemanly?
This was a thread where males were talking about female beauty ideals, and yes, I would say they were being gentlemanly about it. Especially considering the way these threads here used to be and compared to places like StumbleInn. And I was noting that and encouraging that attitude. The people who dirtied up this thread with crudities and insults were females. Now you too. Get a clue.
As the white race is dying out........AGAIN, A CLUE...........this isn't working......it is NOT WORKING.
Actually, gentlemanliness does work, and so does female respect, politeness, or whatever corollaries you can manage. Every man here was respectful both to each other, and largely so even to the females pictured (even though they were only models and actresses.) The first flaming here was from women. It's not working. Get a clue indeed.

[Curatrix]

You try saying that "inept boy" bullshit, when there's a guy you really like, admiring models and actresses. And we all know that's why you're acting like this. Well there is a guy I really want.
.....but, it's not you.
Now stop being a provocatrix as will I and let's stay on topic.
Flaming is a no no.:thanks:

[Lily]

Anyone who denies the aesthetic superiority of the Nordic race is either bitter or delusional.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/04/wisener_gallery__303x400.jpg

There are better pictures of her, IMO.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08WDgB15xPeOH/340x.jpg

Natural smiles always seem more beautiful to me. By the way, I don't know much about racial classification but for some I reason was under the impression that the Irish were distinct from Nordics. I could be wrong.

[Curatrix]

This was a thread where males were talking about female beauty ideals, and yes, I would say they were being gentlemanly about it.
If the rooms are segregated for men/women, I don't know how to tell. Is there is mark or sign to indicate which it is?

[Julian Curtis Lee]

If the rooms are segregated for men/women, I don't know how to tell. Is there is mark or sign to indicate which it is?
The whole conversation is an example of the truth that certain male conversations simply can't include women, and certain female conversations can't include men.

If the Phora segregated rooms, I'd have it be between:

Gentlemen
Crude men and snuts
Decent women
Crude women (a very rare breed) and Harpies (a very common breed)

You can figure out which room you'd belong in.

[Curatrix]

The whole conversation is an example of the truth that certain male conversations simply can't include women, and certain female conversations can't include men.

if the Phora segregated rooms, I'd have it be between:

Gentlemen
Crude men and snuts
Decent women
Crude women (a very rare breed) and Harpies (a very common breed)

You can figure out which room you'd belong in.
I belong anywhere I want to be. Thanks, I'll continue to participate here too.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

But you were the one who asked where you belong. Just trying to help.

Oh yes, we all know very well the new White female of ethic of "I'll Do Whatever I Please And Have Whatever I Want!" They teach it in Cosmo magazine. (As the White race declines.)

[Nikolai]

Jennifer Connelly is a natural beauty and is much better looking than the women posted on the 1st page.
http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl1/20/202586/30_2008/JConnelly%20Headshot.preview.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f241/openyoureyestotheworld09/jennifer-connelly-002u3edit.jpg

[Insert witty user name here]

Whether someone is aesthetically pleasing depends on facial symmentry. No particular phenotype has a monopoly on facial symmetry.

Although we should take note that Alpines, East-Baltids, and Classic (Gracile-) Mediterraneans tend to be more likely to become overweight after their 30s. So they may be cute now at 21 but in some years they may not fit through your door.

Hmm.. this is interesting:


The results from our experiment regarding 'symmetry' show that facial symmetry affects the perceived attractiveness. However, the effect is rather small and by far not as influential as it has been reported in the media. To sum up our findings: Very asymmetric faces are judged rather unattractive, but very unattractive faces are not necessarily asymmetric. And vice versa : very symmetrical faces need not necessarily be judged attractive and very attractive faces often show deviations from perfect symmetry (see report!). Based on our results, symmetry only seems to be a rather weak indicator for attractiveness. Often it is even difficult to distinguish between the original and the perfectly symmetrical version, because irregularities in shape are rather insignificant. Therefore, the strong influence of symmetry that has been reported in the scientific literature over and over again is questionable.
http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/symmetrie/symmetrie.htm




For each set of female faces, the test subjects were asked to indicate which version they found most attractive. The results of this experiment show clearly that childlike characteristics (large, round eyes, a large curved forehead as well as small short nose and chin) can enhance attractiveness. Only very few (9,5%) test subjects rated mature "original women" as being most attractive. Most of the preferred female faces contained childlike proportions of 10 - 50% (for details see report!). This means that even the most attractive women become even more beautiful, if facial proportions are made more childlike. And again: women who were rated as being most attractive do not exist in reality!
http://www.uni-regensburg.de/Fakultaeten/phil_Fak_II/Psychologie/Psy_II/beautycheck/english/kindchenschema/kindchenschema.htm

[///M power]

There are better pictures of her, IMO.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08WDgB15xPeOH/340x.jpg

Natural smiles always seem more beautiful to me. By the way, I don't know much about racial classification but for some I reason was under the impression that the Irish were distinct from Nordics. I could be wrong.

after looking at the pictures again,and the new picture, she isn't atractive at all, look at her facial stracture,she looks like an alien! her face has that shape and her eyes are too big.

[Basil Fawlty]

But you were the one who asked where you belong.Mentious, do you think the Harpy type is on the increase or has there always a steady percentage but that society previously was better structured to contain and discipline them?

[Niccolo and Donkey]

Anyone who denies the aesthetic superiority of the Nordic race is either bitter or delusional.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/04/wisener_gallery__303x400.jpg

Pasty white skin, too-small face....woof! If you're gonna glorify the Nord, try to at least find some decent examples since there are many attractive ones (especially concentrated in Scandinavia).

[Boleslaw]

I have nothing against the Nordic phenotype, but Nordisim is without a doubt one of the most pathetic narcissicist cults ever, where you practically worship yourself in the mirror. Oh brother! :rolleyes:

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Mentious, do you think the Harpy type is on the increase or has there always a steady percentage but that society previously was better structured to contain and discipline them?
Both of the above.
after looking at the pictures again,and the new picture, she isn't atractive at all, look at her facial stracture,she looks like an alien! her face has that shape and her eyes are too big.
Ah, that was interesting. She is indeed an unusual type. Like I said, cute, elfin. You'd always want to cast her floating in the air, coming out of a tree, surprising some woodsman. That's a lovely natural smile there and I am sure her father adores her.

I think young men have a different taste, or maybe those grown up on those little Asian female cartoon characters or video characters. You know, the ones with the big huge eyes and tiny noses. What do they call those Japanese cartoon babes that look like that?

[///M power]

Ah, that was interesting. She is indeed an unusual type. Like I said, cute, elfin. You'd always want to cast her floating in the air, coming out of a tree, surprising some woodsman. That's a lovely natural smile there and I am sure her father adores her.

I think young men have a different taste, or maybe those grown up on those little Asian female cartoon characters or video characters. You know, the ones with the big huge eyes and tiny noses. What do they call those Japanese cartoon babes that look like that?

yes,it's horrible. "anime". bingo,she looks exactly like this.:sick:
http://www.filetransit.com/images/screen/888f3bbd70171a08828a34ff0484532b_Free_Japanese_Anime_Screensaver.jpg

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Jennifer Connelly is a natural beauty and is much better looking than the women posted on the 1st page.
Just another evidence that appreciation of female beauty is personal. She probably looks like some of your female relatives, probably even ancestors you don't know.
yes,it's horrible. "anime". bingo,she looks exactly like this.:sick:
Ah, yes. There you go. Bingo. Now things are clear.

[Boleslaw]

yes,it's horrible. "anime". bingo,she looks exactly like this.:sick:
http://www.filetransit.com/images/screen/888f3bbd70171a08828a34ff0484532b_Free_Japanese_Anime_Screensaver.jpg
I never understood why people in Japanese animation never look Japanese. They always look like white people with big eyes.

[Insert witty user name here]

I never understood why people in Japanese animation never look Japanese. They always look like white people with big eyes.

A bigger market.

[Sandee]

I never understood why people in Japanese animation never look Japanese. They always look like white people with big eyes.

Someone explained to me that the Japanese took Disney-like animations as a blueprint before when they tried to start their own.

The hair colors represent temperaments at times and sometimes it is to differentiate between the characters else they tend to look a bit the same. The huge eyes make them look more expressive (conveys different emotions). If you watch Animes, you'll notice they make the eyes less big when the character is meant to appear aloof, or distant.

[Boleslaw]

Someone explained to me that the Japanese took Disney-like animations as a blueprint before when they tried to start their own.

The hair colors represent temperaments at times and sometimes it is to differentiate between the characters else they tend to look a bit the same. The huge eyes make them look more expressive (conveys different emotions). If you watch Animes, you'll notice they make the eyes less big when the character is meant to appear aloof, or distant.
Ok????????? :confused:

[Susan]

Mentious: You are doing it again, dummy. The more you talk, the stupider you are sounding. You really are one bloated windbag, my friend. Feel better after your little male menopausal rants against us "harpies"?

Boy, I guess I've been put in my place.:rofl:

And 423: Who knows who or what you are, my little friend. I don't have to answer your questions about my motivation for posting my opinions or anything else you ask or accuse me of. I'm confidant in the way I look and know that I'll be good looking for some years to come. I turn heads now, make 'em smile as I approach, and leave 'em smiling as I walk away.

I like White men. But I like decent, pleasant, respectful, White men. The others, as some of you are here, are merely background noise to be turned down or off when it gets to be too much. And I do that quite often. Turn you off, that is. Other than that, fellas, you have no discernible effect on my life. This is the internet for gosh' sake. With the touch of a click, you all disappear into nothingness, which is where most of you deserve to dwell.

By the way, is there a special name for a male "harpy", or are you all just harpies too? :p

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Men don't have menopause, cuteness. And only females seem capable of being real harpies, thus the Greek myth writer made them female. Thanks for demonstrating to us the eternal verities.
Mentious: You are doing it again, dummy. The more you talk, the stupider you are sounding.
Weren't you the one stupidly complaining that real women (non-public) were not being posted here for comment on their looks? Then made this stupid error:
And almost all of them with fake tits pushed up into their chins?
...when only 1 in 5 pics even even featured the chest.
You really are one bloated windbag, my friend.
Hmm. My post deconstructing your charming commentary, and defending other posters, was shorter than your original large pile of bile, wasn't it Maggie. Bloat is a female problem.
Boy, I guess I've been put in my place.:rofl:
Glad to help out, witch. Any time.

[Sandee]

It might be conditioning but I tend to find both dark-haired men and women (brunettes) more appealing. However, I do think that lighter-haired people can be gorgeous in a pure aesthetic sense.

IMO, it's like looking at a beautiful artwork (a landscape). You admire it for its sheer beauty but you're not necessarily overwhelmed by it. However, there are other artworks that seem mystical or give off an impression of mystery and they're not necessarily "perfect" but they leave you wondering for a while after. Yes, I'm comparing people to artwork here.

[Boleslaw]

I generally prefer brunettes as well. My taste is usually for Eastern and Southern European women.

I'm sorry, I just don't see what's so special about Nordic women.

[President Barbicane]

These threads always illustrate that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In the second picture of her (the one posted by lily), she looks exceptionally beautiful to me. Yet both MUSCLE POWER and Julian Lee did not like her. I can't explain it. Perhaps we just have different tastes (although I very much agree with MUSCLE POWER about excessive cleavage).

[Julian Curtis Lee]

These threads always illustrate that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. In the second picture of her (the one posted by lily), she looks exceptionally beautiful to me. Yet both MUSCLE POWER and Julian Lee did not like her. I can't explain it. Perhaps we just have different tastes (although I very much agree with MUSCLE POWER about excessive cleavage).
I agree, but also just say she's slightly odd or a "type." Elfin eyes. An unusually tiny nose, quite like one of those "anime" characters indeed. A full but naturally proportioned nose on a female bespeaks maturity, dignity and character. Beautiful, yes. Charming, yes. But not a "classic" beauty. And yes, men consider "most beautiful" certain faces based on conditioning and family background. I'm not putting her down. Just saying she's not the best all around symbol of Nordic female beauty.

[Arrow Cross]

"Delicacy"? You are surely being facetious. There is no "delicacy" there. Her poison barbs are right in your face and she drips with disgust and venom. "Great style" only if you enjoy reading poisonous female rants at length. Here's her "delicacy" in the post you praise:


Right, her writing's "delicate." This woman's all class. I note she's the first poster here to use the words "fuck," "ass," "tits," and shit, or to call any other poster here by demeaning names: "worm," "dearie," "boys," "shit for brains." Meanwhile she insists she's not angry or jealous, and that other men find her attractive, even though she is ostensibly married. :confused:

But it is somewhat entertaining, yes, to see her predictable reactions even if they belong more in a low class bar than among gentlemen. (Gentile men.)
It's rather a linguistical delicacy, Mentious, and a social phenomenon, as elaborated before. Few female posters write in such a well-phrased and unrestricted way, her posts about the nigger-question belittle the German Endlösung.

You may not like her(just as I disagree with her on several topics), but you gotta admit that such women - especially of her age and especially on E-forums - are quite rare.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

I think that when it comes to male beauty, hyperion could raise some pretty hard objections and disagree with you here.
Yes, of course all we men need to learn to see other men from a homosexual's perverted point of view and give that some kind of value. (Not.)
You may not like her (just as I disagree with her on several topics)...
I don't like crudeness and cursing in women, or women who throw around vile insults at men over nothing.
...but you gotta admit that such women - especially of her age and especially on E-forums - are quite rare.
No, they are sadly common today. Almost the norm.

[Arrow Cross]

No, they are sadly common today. Almost the norm.
Hmm. Things must be pretty different over there in this regard.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Hmm. Things must be pretty different over there in this regard.
Oh, definitely. American women have the hugest female egos going, the most masculine qualities, the least sense of innocence about them, and the least female fulfillment thus their unhappiness makes them mean. Burton Cummings was singing about their materialism, emerging "me" juggernaut, and emergent empty lives already in the hit song "American Woman" around 1970 (albeit for the wrong lefty reasons).

The virtue and wisdom that once made men love them is in serious decline. They expect service from their men but don't want to serve. They "want it all" and no longer understand that positive life involves choices and sacrifices; you can't "have it all." They desire the male's traditional domain and powers, then wonder why they have no female domain of home, family, and society and those genuine powers. Bottom section of recent Cosmo Whore in my local store gives a hint at how they think, and are taught to think:

YOU, YOU, YOU!

http://celibacy.info/images/CosmoMagCoverNov2008SectionPaint.jpg

The contents now are basically porn; all the different ways to do blow jobs on your boyfriend, sex tricks, etc. The woman who pioneered this social rot was a Jew, Helen Gurley Brown. The chief editor now is also a Jew who teaches (falsely) that women are more powerful as sluts and the magazine is basically a manual for how to be prostitutes without pay. It teaches them to view sluttery as female "empowerment" and it's basically how they are destroying Gentile society by corrupting and enstupidating our women. Note the thumb pressing down on an already-low pantline, threatening to expose her pubiscus. This is the major magazine for young western women today, in most grocery lines and seen by all female and male children. They never show a Jewish slut on the cover, only a Gentile or Nordic slut. To make sure all Gentile women get started with the right values, they also publish Cosmo Girl.

But modern American women are mostly victims, victims of men who have set a bad moral example for them, and victims of media manipulators who want the destruction of marriage and the family. The natural female desire for an intimate relationship with a man is perverted and misdirected into dead ends against the wisdom of all our ancestors. One recent headline: "The Surprising Touch That Whips A Guy On Date #1." (Actually goosing him, I suppose.) While taught to exploit the power of raw sexuality and sport as "goddesses" who worship themselves for that power, they get cheated of the highest fruits of sex's purpose. They are taught that being "sexy" (lust-inducing) is the only necessary female quality. Character and devotion -- the things that cement marriage in the long haul when the bloom of youth fades -- are forgetten. Few women who live like this will marry, or stay married, or have intact families. Most of them will have no children, lose the children they have, or their children end up hating them.

Me, Me, Me!

Relevant by Henry Makow, a good Jew:

How the Rockefellers Re-Engineered Women (http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html)

From Homemakers to Corporate Mistresses (http://www.savethemales.ca/130103.html)

The so-called "empowerment" of American women has made them both unattractive as women and desperately pathetic as human beings.

[nitemare]

I love Sophia Bush and I think she is the epitome of beauty.
She's an actress by the way, but does not have that manufactured look.
Not too skinny either. Perfect.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/Kiki-Lady/bigsophiabushpuppy.jpg

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z180/Danaway_Tango/Sophia.jpg

http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/BailarinaAgraciada/Sophia%20Bush/sophia_glamour.png

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p175/LRed_84/hair/Sophia.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s40/EpitomeofSUGAR/Sophia%20Bush/01.jpg

[Larrikin]

Algorithm to adjust faces to the beauty standard developed.
http://www.scientificcomputing.com/One-click-Beauty-Algorithm-Debuts.aspx
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/fashion/09skin.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=login
http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/10/14/the-beautification-engine-really-works/

[Susan]

I don't know Mentious, if you ask me, you're starting to sound an awful lot like an old crone, or maybe that's old queen? Hmmmmmm............we'll all have to dwell on that possibility a while.

But regardless, obviously, you've decided you don't like me, for whatever reason. Too bad. No loss on my end, however. My real life and posting life both go swimmingly along, as ever. But whatever small amount of respect I had for you is now gone. No matter.

However, I am concerned about your mental health, Mentious. You seem a tad too preoccupied with things. You might want to do a rethink on that no sex/no masturbation lifestyle of yours. Not getting any has sorta turned you into an old fuss budget.

Go ahead, Mentious, get you some this weekend.:hump: :hump: :hump:

:D

[Todd in FL]

But regardless, obviously, you've decided you don't like me, for whatever reason. Too bad. No loss on my end, however.

Really, Susan... this sounds a lot like a... cry for help. You can do better honey.

My real life and posting life both go swimmingly along, as ever.

Susan, you can't have a "real life" if you post on the internet at the same time.

And wtf is a "fuss budget" ?

[Ahknaton]

Algorithm to adjust faces to the beauty standard developed.
http://www.scientificcomputing.com/One-click-Beauty-Algorithm-Debuts.aspx
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/fashion/09skin.html?_r=1&8dpc&oref=login
http://www.bestweekever.tv/2008/10/14/the-beautification-engine-really-works/
The researchers' home page:

http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~tommer/beautification2008/

What is cool about this algorithm is that no beauty standards are arbitrarily programmed into it, it relies entirely on statistical analysis of ratings given to different faces. I would be curious as to whether the old belief that the golden ratio is important in determining aesthetic attractiveness is supported by their results (they don't say).

The other SIGGRAPH papers are here if you are interested in this sort of stuff:

http://kesen.huang.googlepages.com/sig2008.html

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

This one - for Susan (I tried to translate)..
At no price you should confess
to mediocrity a thing.
As soon you once tolerate it,
it will be you soon comfortable with.
Until you - finally - you do not know how,
have become so shallow as it.

Um keinen Preis gestehe Du
der Mittelmäßigkeit was zu.
Hast Du Dich erst mit Ihr vertragen,
so wird es Dir bald bei ihr behagen.
Bis Du - zuletzt - Du weißt nicht wie,
geworden bist so flach wie sie.

once my teacher (she was a pretty looking natural hippy with round glasses and long curly hear) wrote in my poetry-book (like a souvenir) this poem to remember her..

Oscar Wilde once said: only shallow people - never judge others by their appearance.

there is a famous German literate, Erich Kästner - who wrote an interesting poem - about so called class-women.. "Die sogenannten Klassefrauen" (http://www.kultur-netz.de/literat/lyrik/kaestner/klassefr.htm)..
it suits really to the situation, I thought of it.. while trying to have a more descent conversation, that is what Susan expected maybe - that is my impression..
in this poem, that forces females to "think" - there is pure crudeness and reality.. and not only for women it is written, in contrary to as much as possible people probably, like a critic..
if one says: a picture tells more than 1000 words, - YESSSS certainly.. it is a different level.. this poem is certainly written the intention was - to discuss, to think about fashion-maker also.. the role of women trends.. decadence..
anyway - in the poem the most brutal verse was - something like - if it would become fashion, that they would have beating themselves their nails blue,.. actually the entire poem is totally brutal.. females they would do probably everything.. - just to please men.. this is the consumerism-society..
Kästner also said: there is nothing good - except ones deeds

[Curatrix]

Gentlemen, perhaps this is the answer:

Psychological research suggests that people generally choose mates with a similar level of attractiveness. The evolutionary theory is that by mating with someone who has similar genes, one's own genes are conserved.

http://www.jyi.org/volumes/volume6/issue6/features/feng.html

If you find yourself lamenting your inability to find the mate you dream of having, perhaps, you are shopping for a top-of-the-line name brand when in reality, you yourself are barely a blue-light special in the basement at the bottom at the back of the last discount counter.

[Larrikin]

If you find yourself lamenting your inability to find the mate you dream of having, perhaps, you are shopping for a top-of-the-line name brand when in reality, you yourself are barely a blue-light special in the basement at the bottom at the back of the last discount counter.
You mean the dumb fat nerd doesn't happen to get the hot chick at the end of this movie? :eek:

http://www.sobillypetersen.com/images/5c6kq.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/lchavarri/KingofQueens350.jpg
http://media.canada.com/8c8b3290-2b08-4dc6-8e3e-2cc645fdfe05/080620_b_jim.jpg

You lie! YOU LIE !!!

[Death]

Mentious: You are doing it again, dummy. The more you talk, the stupider you are sounding. You really are one bloated windbag, my friend. Feel better after your little male menopausal rants against us "harpies"?

Boy, I guess I've been put in my place.:rofl:

And 423: Who knows who or what you are, my little friend. I don't have to answer your questions about my motivation for posting my opinions or anything else you ask or accuse me of. I'm confidant in the way I look and know that I'll be good looking for some years to come. I turn heads now, make 'em smile as I approach, and leave 'em smiling as I walk away.

I like White men. But I like decent, pleasant, respectful, White men. The others, as some of you are here, are merely background noise to be turned down or off when it gets to be too much. And I do that quite often. Turn you off, that is. Other than that, fellas, you have no discernible effect on my life. This is the internet for gosh' sake. With the touch of a click, you all disappear into nothingness, which is where most of you deserve to dwell.

By the way, is there a special name for a male "harpy", or are you all just harpies too? :p


No...we be harpies all here...

[Curatrix]

You mean the dumb fat nerd doesn't happen to get the hot chick at the end of this movie? :eek:

http://www.sobillypetersen.com/images/5c6kq.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/lchavarri/KingofQueens350.jpg
http://media.canada.com/8c8b3290-2b08-4dc6-8e3e-2cc645fdfe05/080620_b_jim.jpg

You lie! YOU LIE !!!

No. Actually, they are pretty equal. None of them, male or female are true beauties.

The women are fairly well balanced, slender, groomed and good to go.

Women are not looking for that in men. The men in your posts do have what women are looking for in mates. The fairly well balanced face, the heighth, the muscle mass and the over all appearance of maleness coupled with size, energy which indicates a provider and protector. I'm guessing they smell good, too.

Not a lot of women are looking for a aging elfin face in a mate.

[Curatrix]

No...we be harpies all here...
Actually, there is no parallel between language indicating:

hatred for women by men
hatred for men by women

Actually, it's based on need.

Since, men were the ones to be educated, philosophied, listened to and keepers of history, they developed words and language to communicate a shared experience of general the wickness of women who'd done them wrong.

On the other hand, THEY WERE MEN.........whatever could there to be to hate about men?

And besides, if by chance some woman did have a reason to hate men...... there's no need for her to express it. It would be unseemly, unlady like...... real women would never be so vulgar or indelicate.

[Larrikin]

No. Actually, they are pretty equal. None of them, male or female are true beauties.

The women are fairly well balanced, slender, groomed and good to go.

http://www.nndb.com/people/818/000068614/donal-logue-1-sized.jpg vs. http://cdn.chickipedia.com/www/images/d/d7/52191_412.jpg



http://www.ezthemes.com/previews/l/leahreminim.jpg vs. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/01/03/arts/03heff2.190.jpg


They wouldn't give that guys the time of day outside tv.

[Winston]

^ I think the first two are well matched. I have no idea who any of these people are, apart from Jim Belushi and the two from CSI. I actually think William Petersen could do better than that unsightly broad he's with there. He was rather handsome in his day, and still is for his age group.
http://www.geocities.com/willpete53/LA/chance2.jpg

[Winston]

Just to regain some cred as a heterosexual male, and to keep to the theme of angelic beauties, I'll offer for your perusal some photos of Brit mezzo-soprano Katherine Jenkins.
http://www.mgnd.co.uk/All/Katherine_Jenkins_Green_Top_004.jpg

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/pearlblueblue/imgs/1/5/15cb49fb.JPEG
http://www.cliveranger.co.uk/resource/13469.35182.file.eng.jpg
http://www.tom-parsons.co.uk/Stalkfolio/Female%20Celebs/Full%20Size/Me%20&%20Katherine%20Jenkins%202.JPG
http://www.rotaryconvention2009.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/4036-10-015_rgb_med-1.jpg

A more beautiful woman you won't find.

[Susan]

ProBona: Your kind words, as well as the sentiment, are appreciated..:)

Curatrix: Your last post is absolutely hilarious. Good one.

Todd: You may certainly comment on any post that I make. However, please refrain from interpreting it. Thanks in advance.

It's always interesting (the best word I can use here) to try and have a decent discussion about female "looks" with men. It's pretty much impossible. The same old comments crop up. Whether it's on VNN where the crudest of the crude reside, or the Phora, where the supposedly high IQ's dwell.

I can't tell you how many men on these forums have stated that women simply have no ability to appreciate the finer things in life: art, music, literature, anything like that. We simply don't possess the ability to appreciate anything because we are lowly females who possess neither the intelligence nor the sensibilities with which to do so. Uh huh.

That's why whenever we attempt to try to discuss physical attributes of females and their importance, and how it all fits into the grand scheme of things, etc., the conversation always veers back, guided by men, to comments such as "you must not be good looking enough to garner attention by men and that's why you don't like attractive women".....or some such equally insulting shit. And it becomes abundantly clear that all men really want is to be p*ssy hounds and to be left alone with this knowledge.

So much for the more intelligent and insightful sex. That's why I just keep laughing to myself.

[Kriger]

Just to regain some cred as a heterosexual male, and to keep to the theme of angelic beauties, I'll offer for your perusal some photos of Brit mezzo-soprano Katherine Jenkins.
http://www.mgnd.co.uk/All/Katherine_Jenkins_Green_Top_004.jpg

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/pearlblueblue/imgs/1/5/15cb49fb.JPEG
http://www.cliveranger.co.uk/resource/13469.35182.file.eng.jpg
http://www.tom-parsons.co.uk/Stalkfolio/Female%20Celebs/Full%20Size/Me%20&%20Katherine%20Jenkins%202.JPG
http://www.rotaryconvention2009.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/4036-10-015_rgb_med-1.jpg

A more beautiful woman you won't find.

She certainly is beautiful, integrity. Good-looking women are to be found everywhere these days. It's always good to bring these women forward to offset the steady diet of Skank received so often from MSM.

*********

[Basil Fawlty]

The old traditions are often the best.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducking_stool

Then was the Scold herself,
In a wheelbarrow brought,
Stripped naked to the smock,
As in that case she ought:
Neats tongues about her neck
Were hung in open show;
And thus unto the cucking stool
This famous scold did go

[Insert witty user name here]

I can't tell you how many men on these forums have stated that women simply have no ability to appreciate the finer things in life: art, music, literature, anything like that. We simply don't possess the ability to appreciate anything because we are lowly females who possess neither the intelligence nor the sensibilities with which to do so. Uh huh.

Male chauvinism is common in forums where race is a popular topic. There is much resentment among that crowd towards women. It may be more likely among men with a disposition towards being authoritarian; I'm not sure. In my personal and work life I've never seen such an attitude except among lowly manual labor workers where self esteem isn't at its highest.

[Todd in FL]

Male chauvinism is common in forums where race is a popular topic. There is much resentment among that crowd towards women. It may be more likely among men with a disposition towards being authoritarian; I'm not sure. In my personal and work life I've never seen such an attitude except among lowly manual labor workers where self esteem isn't at its highest.

YOU are a victim of Susan.

She typically takes the lightest criticism from male posters and turns it into a male chauvinist pig attack from insensitive white males who are after her because she is the only one whoever speaks the truth... :rolleyes:

She can get away with that with dumbshits like Alex Linder but on this board she is on her way out... especially after yesterday's arrogant postings.

[cerberus]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g
Did she really turn you into a Newt Basil .... ?

or

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=C9KMa7P5eQw&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s_wPZFDgs1o&feature=related

Or the admin staff

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri31PQDNVi4&feature=related

[Insert witty user name here]

YOU are a victim of Susan.

I'm trying to score, damn you. You're ruining it!

Susan and all the other female posters will think I'm sensitive and a good guy. This will lead to PMs. Eventually it will lead to phone calls. Then... well... you know... I like to travel ;)

[Julian Curtis Lee]

I don't know Mentious, if you ask me, you're starting to sound an awful lot like an old crone, or maybe that's old queen? Hmmmmmm............we'll all have to dwell on that possibility a while :D
Ah, I see you're out of marbles now. It's really time for you to throw in the towel, barren witch. You bring this place down about 20 levels.
She can get away with that with dumbshits like Alex Linder but on this board she is on her way out... especially after yesterday's arrogant postings.
I guess it's true what my rep messages are saying, that she's "VNN gutter trash."

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

Thank You, Susan! I think You are alright. Listen, maybe Men are like scared by strong women, .. they dream of young girls. .. and women older from age of 25-30 years on are like not-existent to them, it must be they have that strong "Mother" complex archetype.. I often wonder.. ;) take it easy. :)
http://www.greatmodernpictures.com/FPrmcF.jpg

[Larrikin]

http://www.canvasreplicas.com/images/Attempting%20the%20Impossible%20Rene%20Magritte.jpg

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

;) http://a0.vox.com/6a00c2252758708e1d00f48d114d500001-320pi

[Curatrix]

Thank You, Susan! I think You are alright. Listen, maybe Men are like scared by strong women, .. they dream of young girls. .. and women older from age of 25-30 years on are like not-existent to them, it must be they have that strong "Mother" complex archetype.. I often wonder.. ;) take it easy. :)


Particularly homely men (yuk) with small puds (ha)
whose only claim to MASTER is as
Masturbators.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Men are like scared by strong women, .. they dream of young girls...it must be they have that strong "Mother" complex archetype...
Bitter and selfish women are not "strong" women, and neither are barren ones.
And it's not a matter of what's "scarey" or not, but what's humanly attractive and valuable.

Motherhood is supposed to be one of the powers, and fulfillments of the female.
Fatherhood is one of the powers and fulfillments of the male.

Men should revere and respect the wholesome and natural woman who can evolve beyond "sexy" and "showboat" into a true life partner and friend, including being a good mother to children. He's cheated without this and she's stunted without it. To an intelligent male, a woman who has no powers or faculties of motherhood is relatively worthless in the big picture of life. Sounds like motherhood -- actual strong womanhood -- scares you, kid.
Particularly homely men (yuk) with small puds (ha) whose only claim to MASTER is as Masturbators.
Actually, I gave up masturbation long ago, skank. You should consider it. And I have four beautiful children as my "claim" in life. (May you be barren and abandoned, Curatrix.)

Are all the women at Phora right now VNN trash? I'm sure there must be some decent females here.

[nitemare]

For someone who supposedly cares a lot about retaining a woman's honor, you sure do love to insult them. You reached a new low wishing abandonment on someone. This is the internet. Why would you say something like that about someone you merely exchange opinions with? Whether or not you agree with someone should have nothing to do with the respect you show them.
Then again, that's just my opinion.

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

Bitter and selfish women are never "strong" women, and neither are barren ones.
And it's not a matter of what's "scarey" or not, but what's attractive or not.
Motherhood is supposed to be one of the powers, and fulfillments of the female.
Fatherhood is one of the powers and fulfillments of the male.

Men should revere and respect the wholesome and natural woman who can evolve beyond "sexy" and "seducer" into a true life partner and friend, including being a good mother to children. He's cheated without this and she's stunted without it. To an intelligent male, a woman who has no powers or faculties of motherhood is relatively worthless in the big picture of life. Sounds like motherhood -- actual strong womanhood -- scares you.whatever, I leave it up to your fancy, Mentious. especially you must say anything about motherhood, like you were the mother of the company??? why do you call this Woman such a name. only because you have some projects and because you do all the time some self-promo, and okay - your site against the J. Krishnamurti is respectable, as U.G. said almost the same, so it must be alright - but okay, that is rather off-topic.. You should try to find a better balance between projecting your idea sometimes a little respectless, or either disgraceful, little narzistic maybe.. towards Susan, you can not say she is a witch, while you are the one who likes to be the demagogue. So I break a lance for Susan! I can learn a lot from her, as she stands with both feet in life and she has certainly a good heart and is not pretending to be something or someone, that she is not. She is a strong personality, what is good. She is always fair and of course, some guys can really provoke maybe a bit too much.. so, I can understand it. She brings many posts, where she speaks from experiences, but not to be manipulative, just confronting, giving an example from her experience.. IMO everybody can profit from an open mind.
Thank you for sharing your opinion with me.

Best regards to everyone,
:)

[Julian Curtis Lee]

For someone who supposedly cares a lot about retaining a woman's honor, you sure do love to insult them. You reached a new low wishing abandonment on someone. This is the internet. Why would you say something like that about someone you merely exchange opinions with? Whether or not you agree with someone should have nothing to do with the respect you show them. Then again, that's just my opinion.
Read her previous posts, nitwit. I give gutter snipes what they deserve.

whatever, I leave it up to your fancy, Mentious. especially you must say anything about motherhood, like you were the mother of the company?
What company? What are you the mother to, kid?

I'm not supposed to talk about motherhood child? I know something about it, and fatherhood:

-- I had a mother.
-- I made a woman into a mother.
-- I was around a mother for many years raising children with her, one who delighted and basked in motherhood.
-- And I've had relatives become mothers.

So I can talk about it, probably with more authority than you. I also don't respect a female who can't evolve beyond "me, me, me" and appreciate children, or become as devoted to them as I was, as a father. Motherhood is the true flowering of womanhood. It's pathetic that today's barren CosmoTwits can't understand that. No intelligent man is attracted to a female lacking psychological motherhood qualities. Just as no smart female is attracted to a male lacking good father potential. This is simple.

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

For someone who supposedly cares a lot about retaining a woman's honor, you sure do love to insult them. You reached a new low wishing abandonment on someone. This is the internet. Why would you say something like that about someone you merely exchange opinions with? Whether or not you agree with someone should have nothing to do with the respect you show them.
Then again, that's just my opinion.I agree with You here.

[nitemare]

Read her previous posts, nitwit. I give gutter snipes what they deserve.

Perhaps I am speaking for myself. You're roughly 3 times my age. A father figure, in essence.
And yet you've insulted me several times. When have I insulted you?

[Curatrix]

:rofl: Bitter and selfish women are not "strong" women, and neither are barren ones.
And it's not a matter of what's "scarey" or not, but what's humanly attractive and valuable.

Motherhood is supposed to be one of the powers, and fulfillments of the female.
Fatherhood is one of the powers and fulfillments of the male.

Men should revere and respect the wholesome and natural woman who can evolve beyond "sexy" and "showboat" into a true life partner and friend, including being a good mother to children. He's cheated without this and she's stunted without it. To an intelligent male, a woman who has no powers or faculties of motherhood is relatively worthless in the big picture of life. Sounds like motherhood -- actual strong womanhood -- scares you, kid.

Actually, I gave up masturbation long ago, skank. You should consider it. And I have four beautiful children as my "claim" in life. (May you be barren and abandoned, Curatrix.)

Are all the women at Phora right now VNN trash? I'm sure there must be some decent females here.
YOU IDENTIFIED WITH THAT? who woulda thunk it was about U? <hehe>


And, now, since you are now attacking several women...mmmm....let me guess here...... we're a coven?
or the ol' flatter one and try to divide and conquer?

[Julian Curtis Lee]

You were clearly directing that to me, gutter snipe. Did I flatter one of you? Must have been a mistake.

I'm not attacking anybody, just calling trash trash.
None of you have the feminine power to be genuine witches (just personality witches), so I don't imagine you'll ever be a "coven."

I understand that you're all jealous seeing men post pics here of women they consider beautiful. But just remember character and grace counts for more than looks in a woman. Work on that a little.

[///M power]

Just to regain some cred as a heterosexual male, and to keep to the theme of angelic beauties, I'll offer for your perusal some photos of Brit mezzo-soprano Katherine Jenkins.
http://www.mgnd.co.uk/All/Katherine_Jenkins_Green_Top_004.jpg

http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/pearlblueblue/imgs/1/5/15cb49fb.JPEG
http://www.cliveranger.co.uk/resource/13469.35182.file.eng.jpg
http://www.tom-parsons.co.uk/Stalkfolio/Female%20Celebs/Full%20Size/Me%20&%20Katherine%20Jenkins%202.JPG
http://www.rotaryconvention2009.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/4036-10-015_rgb_med-1.jpg

A more beautiful woman you won't find.

I like this one.

[Lily]

I like this one.

She is beautiful but she is wearing too much makeup.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

I agree with that.

[Curatrix]

I like this one.

In addition to her obvious symmetry, you can see the spark of intellegence in her eyes. To me, that is beauty in both women and men.

She's quite lovely.

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

I'm not supposed to talk about motherhood child? I know something about it, and fatherhood:
-- I had a mother.
-- I made a woman into a mother.
-- I was around a mother for many years raising children with her, one who delighted and basked in motherhood.
-- And I've had relatives become mothers.
So I can talk about it, probably with more authority than you. I also don't respect a female who can't evolve beyond "me, me, me" and appreciate children, or become as devoted to them as I was, as a father. Motherhood is the true flowering of womanhood. It's pathetic that today's barren CosmoTwits can't understand that. No intelligent man is attracted to a female lacking psychological motherhood qualities. Just as no smart female is attracted to a male lacking good father potential. This is simple.Yes, wonderful. I didn`t ask you. I expect you to teach to your children to respect others, older people also. It is all - many things are good what you say and you think a lot, i.e. personally I am not in any anger. It is just, that YOU always must get personal! That is the only point, and that can hurt, and you are not the boss of this phora nor are you the president of the internet. come down.

[Basil Fawlty]

What is the origin of this peculiar notion that being shown respect is a right?
I always thought it was something earned.

[Arrow Cross]

I don't like her.

Nevertheless, I advocate a well-deserved and long overdue :lock: to this...babe thread. It's not exactly a Phora-quality.

[nitemare]

You were clearly directing that to me, gutter snipe. Did I flatter one of you? Must have been a mistake.

I'm not attacking anybody, just calling trash trash.
None of you have the feminine power to be genuine witches (just personality witches), so I don't imagine you'll ever be a "coven."

I understand that you're all jealous seeing men post pics here of women they consider beautiful. But just remember character and grace counts for more than looks in a woman. Work on that a little.

Wow, please stop including me with the other women on this board. We're not one entity. I've been posting pictures in this thread so please don't accuse me of being bitter. :thanks:

[Basil Fawlty]

I don't like her.

Nevertheless, I advocate a well-deserved and long overdue :lock: to this...babe thread. It's not exactly a Phora-quality.Either that or the lounge.

[nitemare]

What is the origin of this peculiar notion that being shown respect is a right?
I always thought it was something earned.
What have I done that requires DISRESPECT?
Debates should never include personal attacks. It ruins your credibility.

[Basil Fawlty]

What have I done that requires DISRESPECT?
Debates should never include personal attacks. It ruins your credibility.I didn't address my question to anyone or about anyone. A number of posters have given the impression that respect is a right, I commented on that because I'm curious about it.

[Basil Fawlty]

What have I done that requires DISRESPECT?Just looking back up the thread I saw this http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=634320&postcount=121
which might explain M's response to you.

[nitemare]

I didn't address my question to anyone or about anyone. A number of posters have given the impression that respect is a right, I commented on that because I'm curious about it.
Oh alright. :)
I'm merely concerned with the notion that we're all devolving into children by including little jabs here and there. Like some bad action movie.
"Take that, you fool!"
I'm only 20 but I feel like I am too old for that kind of exchange.:deadhorse:

[nitemare]

Just looking back up the thread I saw this http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=634320&postcount=121
which might explain M's response to you.
Oh, because I included derogatory and insulting language....
Oh wait, I didn't.
Alright.
If people think name- calling constitutes as mature discussion than I'll let them continue thinking so.

[Curatrix]

What is the origin of this peculiar notion that being shown respect is a right?
I always thought it was something earned.

I agree that respect is not a right.

Even, and maybe especially, respect carte blanche to men.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Yes, wonderful. I didn`t ask you.
Actually, in that barely intelligible babble of yours, you did ask me. You even used 3 question marks to do it:
whatever, I leave it up to your fancy, Mentious. especially you must say anything about motherhood, like you were the mother of the company???
You asked be, absurdly, on what grounds could I possibly have an opinion on motherhood, or value motherhood. (Which is a stupid question.)

Either you are exhibiting a lack of intelligence or a lack of honesty. Both problems appear to arise in women when men try to engage them in serious conversation. The latter more than the former. Either be honest, or get some more lipstick for Amelia.

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

What is the origin of this peculiar notion that being shown respect is a right?
I always thought it was something earned.Of course You just said it right, philosophically correct, it is absolutely true, logical.
I find it funny, how he - Mentious is justifying himself.. as far as I am concerned, I said it spontanious, but I am really believing in it, as a Christian, there is one of the 10 commandments of God, where it is written: "to respect one`s own parents.. "- that is for me an oldfashioned way of bringing up children, not the worst at all.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Just looking back up the thread I saw this http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=634320&postcount=121
which might explain M's response to you.
I don't consider her comments here rude. Her issue about "respect here" refers probably to the neg rep I gave her when she expressed her approval of gays beating up an old woman and stomping on her crucifix, in another thread. She has been the most decent female poster here so far. Here posts, like this, are accurate and she has some class:
Oh, because I included derogatory and insulting language....
Oh wait, I didn't.
Alright.
If people think name- calling constitutes as mature discussion than I'll let them continue thinking so.

[Curatrix]

Actually, in that barely intelligible babble of yours, you did ask me. You even used 3 question marks when you asked me:

Either you are exhibiting a lack of intelligence or a lack of honesty. Both problems appear to arise in women when men try to engage them in serious conversation. The latter more than the former.
Ha ha. Again, going out here on a limb..... but "serious conversation" allows for women's opinions. Even if you do not agree.

Serious conversation doesn't include harpie, bitch gutter snipe......and to be fair.... the lil pink pudded man.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Don't be a gutter snipe, and you won't be called a gutter snipe. But that is clearly not possible for you, based on another obscene post from you.

This stinking trash, Curatrix, really deserves a ban.

[nitemare]

I don't consider her comments here rude. Her issue about "respect here" refers probably to the neg rep I gave her when she expressed her approval of gays beating up an old woman and stomping on her crucifix, in another thread. She has been the most decent female poster here so far. Here posts, like this, are accurate and she has some class:
You didn't just use that instance to call me names but a few others as well.
I guess I am under the delusion that these forums are meant for exploring all sides of an issue.
My mistake.
I said repeatedly I did not condone the stomping of the cross.
However, the fact that people mostly responded to the point that she is an older woman and therefore should be given special treatment is something I find ridiculous.
That's what I commented on and I guess you misunderstood.

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

Ha ha. Again, going out here on a limb..... but "serious conversation" allows for women's opinions. Even if you do not agree.

Serious conversation doesn't include harpie, bitch gutter snipe......and to be fair.... the lil pink pudded man.well said!

[nitemare]

I don't mind the neg rep at all.
I just fail to see the point in calling me an idiot in addition to that.
Because I displayed an opinion that differs from yours.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Well, this is another subject. But I consider it degenerate when young people don't have heightened respect and for their elders and the old.

[Sandee]

Relevant to the topic: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/8250/AngelicBeaut.html


Alison Mack?

http://www.wallpapergate.com/data/media/18/Allison_Mack_011.jpg

http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/m/mack/SM04-0690.jpg

http://www.cwtv.com/shows/smallville/cast/images/c/0000/cw-smallville-prt-AMack-a_001117-f93bed-281x374.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/space_balls1/images/AllisonMack2Large.jpeg

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Well, if you think the aged and elderly should not have some special regard and protection from the youth, in a positive culture, then you are an idiot.

[nitemare]

Well, this is another subject. But I consider it degenerate when young people don't have heightened respect and for their elders and the old.
I am biased because I deal with elderly people quite often.
A lot of them seem to think the world revolves around them.
They expect younger people to yield to them in lines at the store.
They use their age as an excuse to drive slower than the posted speed limits.
They ask for a senior discount everywhere they go, even if financially, they don't need it.
These things irritate me.
A person is a person.

No, I am not an idiot.
I simply think logically and you, my friend, think traditionally.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

I am biased because I deal with elderly people quite often.
A lot of them seem to think the world revolves around them.
I understand that, and see it myself, and those elderly are not exhibiting the highest qualities. On the other hand, young people should be taught to respect the elderly just a bit more, as a basic default mode.

[Lily]

I am biased because I deal with elderly people quite often.
A lot of them seem to think the world revolves around them
They expect younger people to yield to them in lines at the store.
They use their age as an excuse to drive lower than the posted speed limits.
They ask for a senior discount everywhere they go, even if they financially, they don't need it.
These things irritate me.
A person is a person.

I am going to disagree with you there. Why not yeild for an elderly person in the store? you are younger, fitter and more able to stand in a long queue. Who cares if they drive slowly? Young people often drive too fast. Lastly, I have a student discount, I take advantage of it wherever I can. I'd be foolish not to. What is the difference?

Do you pay full price in a sale?

[Basil Fawlty]

Ha ha. Again, going out here on a limb..... but "serious conversation" allows for women's opinions. Even if you do not agree.

Serious conversation doesn't include harpie, bitch gutter snipe......and to be fair.... the lil pink pudded man.Curatrix, some of your contributions are highly provocative, perhaps even in trolling territory, so don't play the innocent. ;)

[nitemare]

I am going to disagree with you there. Why not yeild for an elderly person in the store? you are younger, fitter and more able to stand in a long queue. Who cares if they drive slowly? Young people often drive too fast. Lastly, I have a student discount, I take advantage of it wherever I can. I'd be foolish not to. What is the difference?

Do you pay full price in a sale?

Yes, they'd assume so.
But it's when they don't even ASK me to get in front of me in line, they just pretend they don't see me, and they don't thank me.
Speed limits are posted for a reason. You drive too slow, you disrupt the flow of traffic and this is dangerous.
And as students we are less financially stable than someone on retirement.
My father's parents skipped a family thanksgiving dinner that we had at a nice restaurant and instead opted for 10 cent coffee at McDonald's.
Because they are such penny pinchers.
It just disgusts me because this is selfishness.

[Basil Fawlty]

Everyone is advised to stay strictly on topic. No flaming or trolling. This thread is frivolous as it is and should probably be locked or moved to the lounge.

[Lily]

Yes, they'd assume so.
But it's when they don't even ASK me to get in front of me in line, they just pretend they don't see me, and they don't thank me.
Speed limits are posted for a reason. You drive too slow, you disrupt the flow of traffic and this is dangerous.
And as students we are less financially stable than someone on retirement.
My father's parents skipped a family thanksgiving dinner that we had at a nice restaurant and instead opted for 10 cent coffee at McDonald's.
Because they are such penny pinchers.
It just disgusts me because this is selfishness.

Not all old people do that, you know, some people aren't even aware they are doing it. All you'd have to say is 'excuse me, I was waiting here.' Usually people will be quite apologetic.

Speed limits are there for a reason yes, and when young people drive too fast it is even more dangerous than when the elderly drive too slowly.

Also, retirement is not easy, pensions are hardly sufficient. It has been known for the elderly people here to go entire winters without heat. And you know, even if they were all financially stable so what? if they want to take advantage of the benefits made available to them they'd be foolish not to. Most of them have been working their whole lives and, quite frankly, have earned it. If people want to eat at mcdonalds and save their money it is their right, people can spend their money however they see fit. Hardly disgusting. Instead, some might argue that dining in expensive restaurants is a disgusting wate of money.

Everyone is advised to stay strictly on topic. No flaming or trolling. This thread is frivolous as it is and should probably be locked or moved to the lounge.

Had I seen this post before I responded I would not have done so. This will be my last post on the matter.

[Keystone]

Anyone who denies the aesthetic superiority of the Nordic race is either bitter or delusional.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/12/04/wisener_gallery__303x400.jpg She's a bit strange looking in a cute way. Very pretty.

[Basil Fawlty]

Had I seen this post before I responded I would not have done so. This will be my last post on the matter.Actually, your most recent post has helped lift the tone.

[Basil Fawlty]

That's it.