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Boleslaw
11-29-2008, 11:48 PM
Not as beautiful as the ones I've attended, but here's video of a Latin Novus Ordo mass.

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Boleslaw
11-29-2008, 11:54 PM
This is one issue I part ways with most Traditionalists, in that I have little if anything against Latin Novus Ordo masses that display proper reverence towards our Lord and towards Catholic traditions.

Here's a couple more videos of Latin Novus Ordo masses:
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I would like most(if not all) Novus Ordo masses to be conducted in this manner.

Boleslaw
11-30-2008, 12:35 AM
I would like most(if not all) Novus Ordo masses to be conducted in this manner.

Well good news, it seems more and more Novus Ordo masses are leading in this direction, especially with the revival of the Traditional Latin Mass:

"St. Thomas More is part of a quiet trend to incorporate traditional Latin Church music, particularly the chants, into the body of the vernacular Novus Ordo Mass. This is not the beginning of a return to the Mass in Latin, several experts said, but a recognition that a part of the Church’s heritage needs to reclaim its position within the liturgy.

The trend is accelerating at the same time as a new English translation of the Roman Missal, expected to reincorporate more traditional language, is in the works, several liturgy experts noted.

“There is a renewed interest in the Latin texts, the Latin chants,” said Patrick Vallez-Kelly, director of the Archdiocese of San Francisco’s Office of Worship. “I think some people are going back to the instructions that came out of the Second Vatican Council that have always exhorted us to maintain a basic repertoire of Latin. That has largely been ignored in the American church. There is a generation of music directors and liturgists who are coming back to that — this is something of value.”

Vatican II encouraged the use of Gregorian chant and recommended it to have “pride of place” in the liturgy.

“There may be a natural call that this kind of natural chanting has on the human heart, and that’s why for so many years of being absent from the churches it is now being welcomed by so many,” said Helen Hull Hitchcock, editor of the Adoremus Bulletin. “As St. Augustine said, ‘Singing is praying twice.’”

Pope Benedict XVI’s love of traditional church music is also sparking the movement toward more Latin and Gregorian music, Vallez-Kelly said. The Holy Father wrote extensively on the liturgy as a professor and then as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, particularly in The Spirit of the Liturgy. Now that he is Pope, his thoughts have become more familiar.

“I think in some ways he’s a voice for what other people have been feeling,” Vallez-Kelly said. “There are certain aspects to the liturgical renewal that weren’t done well. There has been a lot of disregard for the norms — and a lot of free experimentation done poorly.”

http://www.ncregister.com/site/article/15091

Jimbo Gomez
11-30-2008, 10:51 AM
Where do you attend those? They exist here, but are quite rare. If five or ten parishes in the entire country do it, it would be a lot here.

Boleslaw
11-30-2008, 04:05 PM
There's only a few parishes that conduct these in my area as well, at least as far as I know. Here's a link to one such parish, which includes some audio excerpts of their services, along with a picture gallery of the church:
http://saint-joseph-detroit.org/default.html

The ones I attended were in old churches built in the 19th century, like the one linked to, and the manner in which they were performed had subtle differences with the Tridentine rite. The beauty of them is amazing!

Jimbo Gomez
11-30-2008, 04:29 PM
Hehe, I like how you Americans speak of 'old 19th century churches'. The one I was baptised in was built around the 1200 or 1300s. :p

Boleslaw
11-30-2008, 05:17 PM
Yeah well our country didnt even exist in the 1200's.

Jimbo Gomez
11-30-2008, 08:11 PM
Yeah well our country didnt even exist in the 1200's.


Gee, I didn't know, thanks for the history lesson. :p

Boleslaw
11-30-2008, 10:57 PM
Gee, I didn't know, thanks for the history lesson. :p
Well somebody has to each you :eurotard: a thing or two about history. HA!

Jimbo Gomez
12-01-2008, 05:36 PM
Well somebody has to each you :eurotard: a thing or two about history. HA!


We sent our most insane, violent and criminal elements to the oversea colonies. Wre don't need a history lesson, we need to forget about that large island across the ocean asap so we can display an attitude of plausible ignorance. :D

Boleslaw
12-01-2008, 09:05 PM
When the hell did Belgium have a colony in North America?

Jimbo Gomez
12-02-2008, 07:44 PM
When the hell did Belgium have a colony in North America?


We came pretty close to having one actually. King Leopold was negotiating the sale of some worthless plot of land in Mexico, a plan he had to assure the country had land on every continent. Some revolution took place in Mexico, and his negotiating partner was removed from power. The only success he got in that plan was the acquisition of the Congo.

Hartmann von Aue
12-02-2008, 09:31 PM
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to this:

"Conservative" Austrian Cardinal at Novus Ordo Youth Mass - or the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita and Huxley's Brave New World in the process of fulfillment:

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