The Irish Republican Socialist Movement?

[Pools_Closed]

Okay. I am of Irish descent on my mothers side and have always held a great deal of affection for Ireland, and its struggle against british oppression etc. I have recently been looking for ways to assist my comrades in Ireland and at college I came into contact with someone who apparently has connections with the IRSM.

My school might be sponsering a trip to Ireland and he wants me to go along, which I prolly will, but while there he wants me to "meet comrades" or some such thing and is trying to get me to help him possibly organize a North American Republican Socialist Committee, well, when mentioning this to a friend on yahoo who is from ireland he told me to be careful and expressed concern about me becoming involved with this person/group and such.

What is the perception of the IRSM from those here from ireland? Is it as my friend said, something I should be weary of getting involved in? Also, any information you might think would be pertinent. I have done a fair amount of reading but I have as of yet spoken to many from ireland about this.

Thanks

[Charlie Robespierre]

A tiny, insignificant republican organisation, riddled with socialist factions and itself one of the many groups that emerged out of the various splits that has traditionally plagued Irish republicanism..

[Jake Featherston]

This is all Wikipedia has on them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Socialist_Movement

"The Irish Republican Socialist Movement is an umbrella term for the political-paramilitary grouping of the Irish Republican Socialist Party, the Irish National Liberation Army, prisoners who belong to either the IRSP or the INLA, the Irish Republican Socialist Committees of North America, and the Republican Socialist Youth Movement."

A related link, with more material:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Socialist_Committees_of_North_America

[Dagoth Ur]

Your Irish friend probably mistook them for a militant group, which they don't appear to be. They've got a bunch of websites but I guess this (http://www.irsm.org/irsm.html) is the main one. If the state considered them an illicit group then I don't think they'd be hosting pages for their cells on Angelfire and WordPress.

They're very explicitly Marxist, I don't know how you feel about that. All of the Irish individuals I've known to be concerned with reunification that I've spoken to online have invariably been nationalists through and through.

[Pools_Closed]

Your Irish friend probably mistook them for a militant group, which they don't appear to be. They've got a bunch of websites but I guess this (http://www.irsm.org/irsm.html) is the main one. If the state considered them an illicit group then I don't think they'd be hosting pages for their cells on Angelfire and WordPress.

They're very explicitly Marxist, I don't know how you feel about that. All of the Irish individuals I've known to be concerned with reunification that I've spoken to online have invariably been nationalists through and through.

I'm not quite sure how I feel as odd as that sounds. To be honest, I consider myself essentially a Third Positions, opposing both Capitalism and Communism, however, on the other hand, after read Marx, Lenin, Mao, Che, Gramsci, and other such individuals such as Bakunin, Nacheyev, Poudhon, and Gaddafi among other (I reallize he is not what one would call a communist), I have some affinity and favorable opinions about communist and socialist ideology.

Before I was a Third Positionist/National Anarchist, I considered myself a strasserite National Socialist.

I do not know if I will be helping him form the committee, however, I may indeed visit his "comrades" and speak to them in Ireland if possible, just to get a feel for the organization. I have already contributed a bit of money to them, but I am unsure as to my loyalties.

I wish the IRA were still active, I do not live in Ireland so I hope I dont offend anyone in saying this: I have frequently thought that I would be happy if peace had not been achieved, and I could somehow go an join the IRA, even if it meant my death. Foolish I know, but when it comes to Ireland, my politics can seem a bit weird...Ireland and Scotland are my home heritage wise, and even if it means contradicting my ideological leanings, I feel a certain amount of duty.


By the way, I am writing things after drinking quite bit of whiskey, so forgive me for the grammer and spelling if I made many mistakes.


By the way, What Irish Nationalist organizations exist that I might be able to support? Most I find are rather socialistic or marxist. That and I refuse to support Sinn Fein, as I consider them sellouts, but that if for another conversation.

An Ireland Unfree shall never be at peace…

Ní síocháin go Saoirse

"To subvert the tyranny of our execrable government, to break the connection with England, the never-failing source of all our political evils and to assert the independence of my country- these were my objectives. To unite the whole people of Ireland, to abolish the memory of all past dissensions, and to substitute the common name of Irishman in place of the denominations of Protestant, Catholic and Dissenter - these were my means."- Theobald Wolfe Tone

[Geist]

Never heard of the IRSM, but you don't fit the strictly leftist politics of most Republican groups. Just come to Ireland, and have fun. Visit Dublin, Cork, Derry, and Belfast. The 'cause' is quite static now, and I don't think most Irish people want violence anymore. Plus most of these groups are riddled with British agents at this late stage in their career. Things are quite calm these days.

I recommend asking your question over at http://irish-nationalism.net/forum/
where Basil, from this forum, posts. They are right-wing nationalists, but there is no party representative of this.

And don't worry about being drunk. We all spout the same ideals, sing the songs, or whatever at night, but the next thing a clear head returns.