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Fade the Butcher
03-06-2006, 03:24 AM
The crisis of our existence was not created by Negroes, or Arabs, Mexicans or Chinese. It emerged solely out of Our people and their relationship with our long-time alien nemesis, the ultimate racial loyalists who stripped us of our own racial loyalty.
Dr. Duke,
First, I want to say that I admire your work and have learned quite a lot from your writings over the years. Well done. Having said that, I have been meaning to ask you something, but haven't gotten the opportunity to do so until now. It wasn't until the second quarter of the 20C that Jewish influence really became pervasive in America. For example, Jews didn't play much of a role in our government until the Roosevelt administration (1933-1945). There were quotas at many Ivy League universities that kept Jewish numbers low. Television was still years away. The film industry, although heavily Jewish, was just really getting started. Radio was still new. Jewish influence in the military was neglible at this time. The vast majority of Jews were impoverished European immigrants. The circumstances of American Jewry would radically change in later years, but Jewish influence in our society was negilible until around 1925, Bernard Baruch and Walter Lippmann aside.
I think our racial problems go much farther back than that. Jews had immigrated to the United States en masse decades before. In 1925, Jews were full fledged American citizens on par with white Americans in legal rights. Jews had been settling in America since the seventeenth century. This can't be attributed to Jewish influence in America. It was nonexistent prior to 1925. We let the Jews immigrate to our country, granted them equal rights with our own citizens, and stood idly by while they began to accumulate wealth, as they snapped up assets of influence, as they penetrated positions of power, and even as they began to engage in anti-white political activism in organizations like the Communist Party USA. We never had to do any of this. I would say our nonchalant indifference in the face of this disaster then, as today, cries out for explanation. The seeds of the JQ in America were planted long before they matured into substantial Jewish power. But Jews weren't our only problem.
The ancestors of virtually all our blacks were already living in America in 1925. They were brought here for the most part during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, again, before Jews had any significant influence in America. In 1925, blacks were American citizens; protected by the fourteenth and fifteenth amendments of the U.S. Constitution. They were also protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1866, Civil Rights Act of 1871, and the Civil Rights Act of 1875 (struck down in 1883). The legal foundation of Negro equality in America was laid in the Reconstruction era: citizenship, voting rights, equal protection, integrated schools, non-discrimination in housing and public accomodations. There was nothing really new in the 1960s that had not been pioneered a century earlier. Massachusetts repealed its anti-miscegenation law in 1843. Most states in the American Northeast did not have anti-miscegenation laws in 1925. Vermont never adopted one. So, Negroes were voting in American elections, attending schools with white children, and were even marrying white Americans in many states in 1925.
What about other minorities? Indians were granted U.S. citizenship in 1924. Hawaii was a U.S. territory by 1925. The Phillippines and Puerto Rico were also U.S. territories. Chinese and Japanese immigrants settled in California and Hawaii during the nineteenth century. They were accorded citizenship as a result of the fourteenth amendment and the ruling of the SCOTUS in United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898. The restrictions on Chinese immigration were loosened by during the Roosevelt administration because of pressure from Chiang Kai Shek. There was also pressure to liberalize Asiatic immigration from GIs who wanted to bring their war brides back to America; a situation that would happen again in Korea and Vietnam. Mexicans had been living in the United States since the Southwest was acquired during the Mexican War. Mexicans were U.S. citizens in 1925 and had been immigrating to the U.S. for a long time to work for railroads in the southwestern U.S. Hundreds of thousands of Mexicans fled to the United States in the aftermath of the Mexican Revolution. Millions of Mexicans were deported from the United States during the Great Depression under President Hoover and again in the 1950s as part of Operation Wetback under President Eisenhower.
In summa, Jews, Indians, Negroes, Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, and Hawaiians were all U.S. citizens in 1925. It should also not be forgotten that prominent white Americans had long spoke out in favor of racial equality. John Wilkes Booth shot Abraham Lincoln after he came out in favor of civil rights in his last speech. William Lloyd Garrison also come to mind. The abolitionist movement was responsible for overturning Massachusett's anti-miscegenation law. His grandson, Oswald Garrison Villard, was a founding member of the NAACP. John Dewey and Jane Addams were also founding members of the NAACP and outspoken advocates of civil rights. John Dewey was the most famous American philosopher of his generation and influenced countless young minds. Racial egalitarianism was present in the Progressive movement. Randolph Bourne is the father of the American multiculturalism; the version of multiculturalism where whites are stripped of their identity and forced to become cosmopolitans whereas other minorities are encouraged to celebrate their own ethnic particularism.
It seems evident to me that whites have inflicted this problem upon themselves; that Jews were allowed to come to America and accumulate unjustifiable wealth and disproportionate influence because Americans allowed them to do so. White Americans allowed them to do this because they are committed to the liberal political ideology they have inherited from their ancestors. It takes five minutes to illustrate this. Just ask any typical white American why he holds the views he does. He will start off by saying racism is wrong. He will then proceed to explain that racism is wrong because 1.) we are all human beings, 2.) we should treat people as individuals, 3.) discrimination is wrong because everyone should be treated equally, 4.) nonwhites should be able to express themselves, 5.) anti-miscegenation laws and segregation infringe upon individual freedom. In other words, racialism is wrong because of liberalism. This is what the typical white American believes. It is certainly true that Jews have promoted this destructive ideology to advance their own interests, but they are simply exploiting this preexisting and integral aspect of American culture to promote their own ends. Their rise to power has been an effect of our degeneracy. Where am I going wrong?
Jim West
03-06-2006, 02:49 PM
Just ask any typical white American why he holds the views he does. He will start off by saying racism is wrong. He will then proceed to explain that racism is wrong because 1.) we are all human beings, 2.) we should treat people as individuals, 3.) discrimination is wrong because everyone should be treated equally, 4.) nonwhites should be able to express themselves, 5.) anti-miscegenation laws and segregation infringe upon individual freedom. In other words, racialism is wrong because of liberalism. This is what the average WN does not grasp. He "names the Jew",without ever understanding that "naming the liberal" is, in effect,"naming the Jew", but in a more effacacious way. Because when one "names the liberals", one scoops up not only the main body of Jews, but also the main body of Mexicans and Negroes as well, until one has netted a great squiggling, squirming mass of leftist propaganda and agenda intended to undermine the very existence of maintaining a predominantly white America.
Fade the Butcher
03-06-2006, 04:42 PM
I don't see anyone addressing the liberal quesiton.
Damavand
03-06-2006, 04:48 PM
love the new avatar, deconstructionist!
Kodos
03-06-2006, 04:48 PM
I don't see anyone addressing the liberal quesiton.
Its hard to argue that classical liberalism( which seems to be more what your beef is directed at) is the principle cause of our decline when American rose and expanded as a society mostly run upon those lines( trade protection being the big exception)... and has declined along as a more mixed economy society.
Fade the Butcher
03-06-2006, 05:11 PM
How did the civil rights movement triumph? By appealing to liberal principles, of course.
I am Right
03-06-2006, 06:15 PM
blah blah blah what a load of Bourgeois hot air. Deconstructionist and David Duke both are soft, effeminate middle-class mediocrities who talk too much and say almost nothing.
ironweed
03-06-2006, 07:38 PM
I can't believe someone with an honorary Ph.D. would ever call themselves "Dr." Though given the low state of academics everywhere nowadays I guess he came by his at least as honorably as the average Ph.D. in Education, English (particularly crap like Comparitive Literature) or Wymyn's Studies.
sainte-marthe
03-06-2006, 07:44 PM
I can't believe someone with an honorary Ph.D. would ever call themselves "Dr." Though given the low state of academics everywhere nowadays I guess he came by his at least as honorably as the average Ph.D. in Education, English (particularly crap like Comparitive Literature) or Wymyn's Studies.
Apparently, (or so he says) the amount of research he has done, albeit not in a formal or academic setting, justifies the Ph.D. I've always thought it pretentious to use the term "doctor" as a form of address in just about any case.
Hakluyt
03-06-2006, 07:50 PM
A while ago I made a list of factual errors I found in his book Jewish Supremacism (I only read the first chapter available online, but there were 6 in total). Most glaringly he wrote that Lord Balfour was himself Jewish. Many recycled bogus quotations from the internet. It might be interesting to see what other mistakes are contained in the rest.
Fade the Butcher
03-06-2006, 07:57 PM
I still haven't read Jewish Supremacism or My Awakening (although I did once check the latter out of the library).
Dan Dare
03-06-2006, 07:57 PM
I only made it halfway through Duke's "Jewish Supremacism".
While in general accord with Duke's overall premise, I have to say that this book strikes me as a prime example of what David Irving refers to as "turgid sludge".
ironweed
03-06-2006, 08:08 PM
Most glaringly he wrote that Lord Balfour was himself Jewish.
I'm embarassed to say I was confused about this myself. I had to look it up.
A Jew or crypto-Jew wrote the thing, but the author of the Balfour Declaration was NOT Lord Balfour. It just had his name on it.
Now I've got it straight. I hope. :o
Fade the Butcher
03-06-2006, 08:11 PM
This is the most important part of my response.
"In other words, racialism is wrong because of liberalism."
^^ The resuscitation of racialism thus must begin with a deconstruction of liberalism. This, in turn, necessitates an alternative theoretical standpoint from which 1.) one can engage in systematic critique of liberalism and 2.) offer an alternative reconstruction of society.
Hakluyt
03-06-2006, 08:12 PM
Yep, his secretary or understudy or whatever who wrote the declaration was discovered to be a Jew after his death, but Duke must have mistaken an article about this as being about Balfour himself.
Dan Dare
03-06-2006, 10:15 PM
White Americans allowed them to do this because they are committed to the liberal political ideology they have inherited from their ancestors. It takes five minutes to illustrate this. Just ask any typical white American why he holds the views he does. He will start off by saying racism is wrong. He will then proceed to explain that racism is wrong because 1.) we are all human beings, 2.) we should treat people as individuals, 3.) discrimination is wrong because everyone should be treated equally, 4.) nonwhites should be able to express themselves, 5.) anti-miscegenation laws and segregation infringe upon individual freedom.
I think the principal difficulty in subscribing to this proposition as written comes from its unfortunate misapplication of the term ‘liberalism’. When used as it is here, liberalism becomes detached from its original, political sense and becomes instead a kind of omnibus proforma label for a whole spectrum of different beliefs and worldviews.
Liberalism, for example, is often seen in the mind of the general public as a term that embraces those who believe that the provision of healthcare on a national level is too important to left to the vagaries of the market. Also that it is the duty of society to provide and care for those who are genuinely unable to provide for themselves. Similarly there are those who believe that adults should be free to choose for themselves which forms of cultural and artistic expression they wish to sponsor and support, without legal and government interference. Each of these might be termed as a ‘liberal’ attitude, and yet it is perfectly possible to someone to hold such attitudes and still be a racialist, or as I prefer, an ethno-nationalist.
With this in mind, I couldn’t see myself supporting a platform based on the premise that “Liberalism is our Misfortune”, but I could easily warm to one that proclaimed “Death to Cultural Marxism, Universalism, and Egalitarianism”.
infoterror
03-06-2006, 10:33 PM
How did the civil rights movement triumph? By appealing to liberal principles, of course.
Liberal principles = same principles for social popularity: everyone equal, all is good, no stress, no big goals... just lay back and enjoy it.
Ahknaton
03-06-2006, 11:01 PM
I don't see anyone addressing the liberal quesiton.
What do you think mainstream conservatives do all day long?
Liberals (in the sense you are using the term) are attacked by attacking "liberal" ideas. Namely, racial egalitarianism, open borders immigration and the nihilistic "everything is equal" relativism that underpins most liberal thought.
In that sense, VDARE and AmRen are both tackling the "liberal question" within racialist circles.
Fade the Butcher
03-06-2006, 11:59 PM
What do you think mainstream conservatives do all day long?
I'm not using the term liberalism in that sense. The debate that goes on between the so called conservatives and liberals in America is a debate within liberalism.
Liberals (in the sense you are using the term) are attacked by attacking "liberal" ideas.
Liberalism is a constellation of ideas, assumptions, and beliefs about the world; the philosophy that underpins our social structure and its associated institutions. Liberalism has become embedded in the minds of the vast majority of Americans as common sense. In this respect, liberalism is similar to a blindfold that stands between the subject and objective reality; a blindfold Americans have become so accustomed to that they lose sight of its very existence. It is the framework through which experience is processed and interpreted; sorta like the software of a computer. I pointed this out elsewhere recently.
This is why strategies like 'naming the Jew' don't work. There is a distorting medium in between the subject and the person who is 'naming the Jew'. The person on the receiving end processes and interprets the input through this medium and rationally rejects the message as a consequence. The message bounces right off the receiver like a meteor bounces off the earth's atmosphere. If you want to do something to change this situation, then the first thing you have to do is go after the shields of the subject. You will need weapons forged for this specific purpose. If you manage to knock his shields out, then taking him down and reprogramming him becomes rather simple.
Namely, racial egalitarianism, open borders immigration and the nihilistic "everything is equal" relativism that underpins most liberal thought.
RE and OBI are consequents of the liberal ideas that are their antecedents.
In that sense, VDARE and AmRen are both tackling the "liberal question" within racialist circles.
They are addressing specific policies: third world immigration, racial nihilism, multiculturalism, globalization. They are directing their fire, generally speaking, at effects, not the causes of those effects.
Fade the Butcher
03-07-2006, 12:07 AM
When used as it is here, liberalism becomes detached from its original, political sense and becomes instead a kind of omnibus proforma label for a whole spectrum of different beliefs and worldviews.
The political policies that are identified with liberalism, as you would say, liberalism in its political sense, are the effects of liberalism the philosophy; the theoretical constellation ideas that lies behind social reality. It is the difference between an abstract formula and its practical application.
Kodos
03-07-2006, 02:24 AM
The message bounces right off the receiver like a meteor bounces off the earth's atmosphere
Meteor's burn up in the atmosphere.
cerberus
03-07-2006, 10:51 PM
I saw a small movie Clip on "Google" - about a "white" duo called "Prussian Blue" - two young blonde , blue eyed twins who sing what mark Weber at IHR called "inspirational songs".
The movie clip mentioned Duke in passing as he introduced the girls to sing at some fucntion he was running - was he ever a member of the KKK , a senior one at that ?
Fade the Butcher
03-07-2006, 11:03 PM
I saw a small movie Clip on "Google" - about a "white" duo called "Prussian Blue" - two young blonde , blue eyed twins who sing what mark Weber at IHR called "inspirational songs".
I take it you were shocked and outraged.
Nordicist
03-07-2006, 11:14 PM
I can't believe someone with an honorary Ph.D. would ever call themselves "Dr."
This is inaccurate. Dr. Duke received his Ph.D. from a Ukrainian university, which also happens to be the largest one in Eastern Europe. It was not an honorary degree. He has every right to use the term Doctor.
— Awarding of PhD in History by the Rector and Council Secretary
The following is hot from the Ukrainian Jewish Blogs–
Latest news **translated by H. Friedman, Kiev**
Jewish leaders in Ukraine are condemning the actions of a major university in Ukraine (MAUP) for awarding a full doctorate to the notorious American anti-Semite David Duke.
MAUP, an acronym for the largest university system in Ukraine, awarded the controversial former KKK leader and American politician, David Duke, a PhD in History after a successful completion of exams and all doctoral academic requirements, and a spirited Doctoral Defense in an art-adorned academic conference hall adjacent to the office of the MAUP President Prof. Georgy Tchokin.
MAUP is one of the leading Universities in Ukraine as well as Eastern Europe. Formerly a national university system run by the Ukrainian government, it was privatized after the fall of communism. It has grown to over 51,000 students with branches throughout Ukraine. Cooperative arrangements exist with other universities in a number of other nations and it has the highest academic accreditation possible both in Ukraine (4) and on the international level. UNESCO recognizes the MAUP university system as one the world’s high-level educational institutions. MAUP is the source of most of the bachelor and post-graduate degrees of the Ukranian Government officials and administrators. Such influence over governmental employees disturbs many Jews in the Ukraine who are concerned about lingering anti-Semitism.
Jewish spokesmen decried Duke’s earlier Honorary Doctorate awarded him by the University and his subsequent, quiet participation in MAUP’s Post Graduate Degree Program and his recent achieving of a full doctorate. They say it is proof of the anti-Semitic stance of the university and its staff. Duke’s dissertation subject was entitled, “Zionism as a Form of Ethnic Supremacism.”
Abraham Ribacoff, who read Duke’s dissertation, which was similar to his book, Jewish Supremacism, commented, “No matter how many examinations David Duke has passed, the volume of his research, number of academic citations of his dissertation, or the cleverness of his literary style, his work libels the Jewish people. It concludes that Zionism is an ideology of ethnic supremacy and that Israel is a Jewish-supremacist state. It’s all a lie. In truth, Israel is the only true democracy in the Mideast.”
Markus Gollman of Kiev said, “No matter how camouflaged in pseudo-intellectualism his historical and scientific inquiry, for such anti-Semitic writings, he should be stripped of his Doctor’s robes and given a prison uniform. We will not rest until Duke and the fascist President of the university, Gergiev Tchokin, rot in jail.”
The ceremonies awarding David Duke a Doctor of Philosophy Degree in the field of history came just one day after Israel’s Ha’aretz newspaper reported that Israel formally demanded that Ukraine’s president Victor Yuschenko forbid MAUP President, Dr. Gergiev Tchokin, from being a candidate in the upcoming elections for the Ukranian Parliament.
Some members of the Jewish community though are afraid that such demands from Israel will be viewed as Israeli interference in the internal policies of Ukraine and will be seen as an attempt to stifle freedom of speech and political expression. They fear that such moves will only serve to validate the shrill claims of MAUP President Georgy Tchokin and David Duke that Israel wants to control all nations and seeks to stifle political freedom.
Duke, was a former member of the House of Representatives in Louisiana and Republican Party Chairman in Lousiana, but he is more well known for his former KKK activity. He has lectured frequently in the MAUP system since 2002 while he quietly fulfilled his Doctoral requirements.
On Friday, September 9, a senior academic council of twelve MAUP professors sat in judgment of his doctoral defense. The academics included some former high officials of the Ukrainian government. The council was headed by University Rector, Prof. Mykola Golavatiy, the former Minister for Ukrainian Youth Affairs. He is the MAUP First Vice-President of socio-scientific work. The rest of the academic council included the following members
Prof. Olga Babkina, head of MAUP’s Presidential University. She is famous as the first Doctor of Political Sciences awarded in Ukraine from the State University. (The discipline came into existence only after the fall of Soviet Communism.)
Prof. Oksana Rubliuk, Secretary of the Council, PhD of the Social Work and Political Scientist.
Prof. Uriy Surmin, Deputy Director of the Institute of State Management under the President of Ukraine. A Professor in Social Sciences.
Prof. Olexandr Antoniuk, Chief of MAUP Ukranian-Russian Management and Business Institute, Doctor of Political Sciences.
Prof. Volodymyr Sudakov, Director of Sociological Sciences. Doctor from Moscow State University and author of a number of influential books and scientific papers in Ukraine and in other Eastern European nations.
Prof Mylola Tulenkov, Vice-President of the Personnel training institute of State Employment service of the Work and Social Politics of the Ministry of Ukraine.
Prof. Igor Hzhniak, Former government administrator, Doctor of Historical Sciences.
Prof. Svetlana Kayanova, Chief of Ukranian-South African Institute of Political Leadership and Linguistics, philologist.
Prof. Alla Padun, General Director – Executive Secretary of the Scientific Institute of International Education, PhD in Biology.
Prof. Alla Bilous, Chief of Scientific Personnel Department. Head of MAUP Doctoral Program. PhD History.
During his doctoral defense Duke alleged that Jewish supremacism and extremism was growing even more radical. He said that the extremists have so taken over Israel that, “Soon their only choices for a leader will be a mass murderer such as Ariel Sharon of Sabre and Shatila, or a maniac who wants to ethnically cleanse all of Palestine, Benjamin Netanyahu.
All the members of the Academic council agreed on the academic excellence of the dissertation and after his successful defense they unanimously voted to approve it and grant him the Doctor of Philosophy degree.
Abraham Ribacoff said that Jews had to be concerned that in spite of the fact that David Duke fulfilled the technical academic requirements for the Doctorate, awarding such a degree and title was dangerous because a legitimate doctoral degree adds authority to his statements and writings. “The fact that David Duke now has the formal title of Dr. David Duke is maddening,” he said. “It seriously hampers the intellectual struggle against anti-Semitism. Someone has to do something about MAUP, it is a national disgrace for Ukraine.”
http://www.davidduke.com/?p=394#more-394
Nordicist
03-07-2006, 11:18 PM
My posts from SF:
A few thoughts:
I would never expect Jews to go against their own genetic interests, nor think it fair to demand that of them. The basis of Jewish participation in any anti-immigration or WN movements has to be cultural. Said Jew must value Western culture most profoundly, acknowledge that it is, in fact, nothing more than the white Europeans act of living, see the grave danger facing it and determine to fight on the side of light.
The minimum test of sincerity in this regard is: can the candidate discourse openly on the nature and effects of Jewry in Western societies. Michael Hart failed it spectactularly.
There are Jews who can pass this test and I, for one, would always be interested in hearing them speak. But that's all. I would not, however, follow Taylor's path and try to build a movement to effect rapprochement. Such Jews as passed the test would be very few in number and speak only for themselves. Their words will never penetrate the thick block of Jewish self-interest. Rapprochement is not possible. Taylor's enterprise is bound to fail. And I for one say: good riddance. The answer to our predicament must come from us and it's just plain ridiculous to look to Jews for our Salvation when it's precisely them who have put us in this deadly mess in the first place.
racialism is wrong because of liberalism
I agree. That is why we must first leave the liberal political/ideological paradigm if we want to survive as a people. In the US this will be particularly difficult since the Republic was founded on radical Enlightenment ideals -- as expressed in the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and the Constitution.
Nordicist
03-07-2006, 11:20 PM
two young blonde , blue eyed twins
In other words, racial perfection. :) Everything the Jew abhors.
Nordicist
03-07-2006, 11:31 PM
I still haven't read Jewish Supremacism or My Awakening (although I did once check the latter out of the library).
I heard from several sources that My Awakening is a good read.
To my embarrassment I have to say that I also have not read those books. But I will remedy that shortly by ordering them tonight. I have been corresponding with Dr. Duke recently and, just as I expected, he is the perfect gentleman. I am very happy that he has agreed to be one of my writers/contributors on my future blog. Paul Fromm also said "yes", Fade. As did Hannover and, of course, wintermute (my favourite poster)...and many others. I think that I am building something of note.
cerberus
03-07-2006, 11:34 PM
I take it you were shocked and outraged.
Oh totally Fade , totally.:rolleyes:
I may never ...yawn ..sleeep agaainzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Fade the Butcher
03-07-2006, 11:44 PM
two young blonde , blue eyed twins
In other words, racial perfection. :) Everything the Jew abhors.
Yes. I have also noticed their typical knee jerk reaction.
Fade the Butcher
03-07-2006, 11:54 PM
I still haven't read Jewish Supremacism or My Awakening (although I did once check the latter out of the library).
I heard from several sources that My Awakening is a good read.
I never bothered to read My Awakening because I have always been a racialist and thus never needed to shake off any egalitarian cobwebs in that respect. I was also far along in my inquiry into the JQ when I first heard of Jewish Supremacism. Having said that, I think both will make good additions to my own personal library and I will probably acquire them at some point in the future.
I am very happy that he has agreed to be one of my writers/contributors on my future blog. Paul Fromm also said "yes", Fade. As did Hannover and, of course, wintermute (my favourite poster)...and many others. I think that I am building something of note.
This is great news. I got your PM earlier but get bogged down in these responses to various threads. I still think the forum environment serves a useful purpose. It forces one to confront and overcome his weaknesses. I was browsing over some of my old posts the other day and was amazed at how much progress I have made since then.
Note: You should PM Dan Dare. He would make a great contributor.
Nordicist
03-08-2006, 08:45 AM
I see the blog as essentially a free-speech place, only obvious trolls will get banned. I welcome debate.
Nordicist
03-08-2006, 09:30 AM
You can also download both books in pdf format from here:
http://www.solargeneral.com/pdf/
ironweed
03-08-2006, 02:22 PM
I can't believe someone with an honorary Ph.D. would ever call themselves "Dr."
This is inaccurate. Dr. Duke received his Ph.D. from a Ukrainian university, which also happens to be the largest one in Eastern Europe. It was not an honorary degree. He has every right to use the term Doctor.
He had previously been awarded an honorary doctorate by them. I didn't realize that he'd gone beyond that. Are you saying he never referred to himself as "Dr. Duke" prior to September 2005? I thought he had, and quite often. If that is not the case, I retract my earlier statement and apologize.
Though if the glaring errors Halykut claims she found in Jewish Supremacism are in his dissertation as well, academic standards there are pretty low. But that's hardly just a Ukrainian phenomenon. Given how everything from "Executive MBAs" to Ph.Ds in Wymyn's Studies are handed out in the USA nowadays. Not to say how everyone from realtors to bankers have some strange professional abbreviation after there name.
Nordicist
03-08-2006, 03:20 PM
What "errors"? If Halykut believes that he has found errors in Dr. Duke's monograph he should get in touch with him and see what Dr. Duke has to say. Let him address any alleged errors in his work. Dr. Duke never used the title "Dr." prior to completing his Doctorate, I don't know where you're getting your information. For e.g., "Dr." and "Ph.D." began to appear on his website only after he obtained his degree.
Finally, one of the good things about communism is that under it everyone had free access to a first-rate education. For e.g., when the Bolsheviks took power in the Soviet Union they inherited a largely illiterate population of peasants...in the space of only a few decades the country became 95 % literate. That's a great achievement. Ditto for Cuba, I would argue that Cuba has the best education system in Latin America (they are especially good in medicine studies). I submit that even today higher education is superior in Central and Eastern Europe (and still mostly free of charge) to what is found in Western Europe and unpolluted by peecee nonsense and bogus departments such as Women's Studies or Black History, etc. (what Black history? Negroes don't have a history...they never even developed a writing system).
He had previously been awarded an honorary doctorate by them. I didn't realize that he'd gone beyond that. Are you saying he never referred to himself as "Dr. Duke" prior to September 2005? I thought he had, and quite often. If that is not the case, I retract my earlier statement and apologize.
Though if the glaring errors Halykut claims she found in Jewish Supremacism are in his dissertation as well, academic standards there are pretty low. But that's hardly just a Ukrainian phenomenon. Given how everything from "Executive MBAs" to Ph.Ds in Wymyn's Studies are handed out in the USA nowadays. Not to say how everyone from realtors to bankers have some strange professional abbreviation after there name.
Hakluyt
03-08-2006, 04:26 PM
What "errors"? If Halykut believes that he has found errors in Dr. Duke's monograph he should get in touch with him and see what Dr. Duke has to say. Let him address any alleged errors in his work.
I had someone else email him with them; he intends to revise them for the next edition.
Dan Dare
03-08-2006, 04:29 PM
Actually in Duke's defence, academic qualifications and honorifics are much more commonly used in Europe than in the US.
It's quite common in Britain or example for someone to list their degrees and even where they got them (if prestigious) on their business cards for example Fred Bloggs, B.Sc. (Hons), M.Sc. (Cantab.).
On the continent they are quite particular about titles as in Prof. Dr. Dipl. Ing. Otto Diesel, and so on.
Duke may have picked up the habit whilst abroad.
Nordicist
03-08-2006, 04:56 PM
I had someone else email him with them; he intends to revise them for the next edition.
Could you email me your comments?
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