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Fade the Butcher
03-09-2006, 09:39 AM
"Ignorance, the root and the stem of every evil."
—Plato

"We look at our fellow men with sympathy but nature looks at them as she looks at flies."
—Oliver Wendell Holmes

"Could not the undesirables be got rid of and the desirables multiplied?"
—Sir Francis Galton

"If there is any principle of the Constitution that more imperatively calls for attachment than any other it is the principle of free thought—not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought we hate."
—Oliver Wendell Holmes

"We now know that men are not, and never will be, equal. We know that environment and education can develop only what heredity brings."
—Lothrop Stoddard

"We want fewer and better children who can be reared up to their full possibilities in unencumbered homes, and we cannot make the social life and the world-peace we are determined to make, with the ill-bred, ill-trained swarms of inferior citizens that you inflict upon us."
—H.G. Wells

Petr
03-09-2006, 09:57 AM
"Ignorance, the root and the stem of every evil."
—Plato
Here we can see a fundamental clash of worldviews.

It is typical for pagan thinkers to blame ignorance for man's bad condition, whereas the Bible declares that the real problem is disobedience, against the natural law revealed in the structure of the universe and even starker disobedience to the written revelation of God Allmighty seen in the Bible.

Pagans think that man is essentially good, that if he were only educated and trained in a proper manner he would cease to do evil. This is the ideological basis of the entire Enlightenment project.

Christianity teaches that fallen man is essentially evil, and can well know what is right and wrong and still do wrong.


Petr

Petr
03-09-2006, 10:19 AM
"If there is any principle of the Constitution that more imperatively calls for attachment than any other it is the principle of free thought—not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought we hate."
—Oliver Wendell Holmes
And how on earth are you going to logically reconcile this devotion to the freedom of thought with your hatred of libertarianism?

(Plato specifically laid out his plans in The Republic for weeding out inconvenient thought processes by censoring Homer's poetry et al. Today that is known as brainwashing.)


Petr

Basil Fawlty
03-09-2006, 10:31 AM
Here we can see a fundamental clash of worldviews.

It is typical for pagan thinkers to blame ignorance for man's bad condition, whereas the Bible declares that the real problem is disobedience, against the natural law revealed in the structure of the universe and even starker disobedience to the written revelation of God Allmighty seen in the Bible.So one the one hand we have the insights that are available to any rational being with sufficient effort and dedication, on the other, a set of Jewish authored claims which you have to unthinkingly obey.
Pagans think that man is essentially good, that if he were only educated and trained in a proper manner he would cease to do evil. Ignorance is the inability to distinguish between appearance and essence, therein lies the root of all evils.
This is the ideological basis of the entire Enlightenment project.Not really.
Christianity teaches that fallen man is essentially evil, and can well know what is right and wrong and still do wrong.This is Manichaeanism.

Petr
03-09-2006, 10:34 AM
So one the one hand we have the insights that are available to any rational being with sufficient effort and dedication, on the other, a set of Jewish authored claims which you have to unthinkingly obey.
Nothing impresses fallen man more than flattering him like this and implying that godhood is within his grasp, that he should only realize the potential for goodness (God-ness) hidden in him.


Ignorance is the inability to distinguish between appearance and essence, therein lies the root of all evils.
This is Gnosticism, and as Eric Voegelin has pointed out, Gnosticism fuels all modern totalitarian ideologies.


This is Manichaeanism.
No it isn't. The sin has corrupted us as extensively as possible (none of our faculties, physical of spiritual, has been spared from it), but we are not all as intensively evil as we could be, that is, realizing the potential for evil lurking in us all.


Petr

Basil Fawlty
03-09-2006, 10:39 AM
This is Gnosticism, and as Eric Voegelin has pointed out, Gnosticism fuels all modern totalitarian ideologies.That has nothing to do with Gnosticism.
No it isn't. The sin has corrupted us as extensively as possible (none of our faculties, physical of spiritual, has been spared from it), but we are not all as intensively evil as we could be, that is, realizing the potential for evil lurking in us all.Having a propensity for evil is not the same thing as being essentially evil, which was your claim.
Nothign impresses fallen man more than flattering him like this and implying that godhood is within his grasp, that he should only realize the potential for goodness (God-ness) hidden in him.Feel free to obey the Jews all you like.
But even they state in Genesis that man is made in the "image and likeness of God."

Petr
03-09-2006, 10:44 AM
But even they state in Genesis that man is made in the "image and likeness of God."
Before the Fall, that is.

Blaise Pascal said most truly that only Christianity can explain man's current condition, this schizophrenic mixture of greatness and lowliness, benevolence and viciousness - our greatness comes from the fact of us being images of God, our filthiness from of the fact of our Fall and original sin.

It all makes sense only when taken together, as a one package.


Petr

Basil Fawlty
03-09-2006, 10:51 AM
Before the Fall, that is.What fall? This is an element of Jewish mythology. There is no fall because man of his nature is already predisposed to confusing the appearances with the essences, that is, taking the sensible as the fully real.
Blaise Pascal said most truly that only Christianity can explain man's current condition, this schizophrenic mixture of greatness and lowliness, benevolence and viciousness - our greatness comes from the fact of us being images of God, our filthiness from of the fact of our Fall and original sin.
Ancient philosophy gives a much more plausible and rationally accessible explanation for this state of affairs.

Petr
03-09-2006, 11:03 AM
There is no fall because man of his nature is already predisposed to confusing the appearances with the essences, that is, taking the sensible as the fully real.
Nietzsche liked to mock this scapegoating tendency of philosophers to blame those tricksy "appearances" for ruining everything:


"You ask me which of the philosophers' traits are most characteristic? For example, their lack of historical sense, their hatred of the very idea of becoming, their Egypticism. They think that they show their respect for a subject when they dehistoricize it sub specie aeternitas — when they turn it into a mummy. Everything that philosophers handled over the past thousands of years turned into concept mummies; nothing real escaped their grasp alive. Whenever these venerable concept idolators revere something, they kill it and stuff it; they suck the life out of everything they worship. Death, change, old age, as well as procreation and growth, are to their minds objections — even refutations. Whatever has being does not become; whatever becomes does not have being. Now they all believe, desperately even, in what has being. But since they never grasp it, they seek for reasons why it is kept from them. "There must be mere appearance, there must be some deception which prevents us from perceiving that which has being: where is the deceiver?"

"We have found him," they cry jubilantly; "it is the senses! These senses, so immoral in other ways too, deceive us concerning the true world. Moral: let us free ourselves from the deception of the senses, from becoming, from history, from lies; history is nothing but faith in the senses, faith in lies. Moral: let us say No to all who have faith in the senses, to all the rest of mankind; they are all 'mob.' Let us be philosophers! Let us be mummies! Let us represent monotono-theism by adopting the manner of a gravedigger! And above all, away with the body, this wretched idée fixe of the senses, disfigured by all the fallacies of logic, refuted, even impossible, although it is impudent enough to behave as if it were real!"

http://www.handprint.com/SC/NIE/GotDamer.html


Ancient philosophy gives a much more plausible and rationally accessible explanation for this state of affairs.
Exactly how?


Petr

Basil Fawlty
03-09-2006, 11:21 AM
Nietzsche liked to mock this scapegoating tendency of philosophers to blame those tricksy "appearances" for ruining everythingNietzsche's polemics, so what?
Exactly how?One example. A man may have a reputation (appearance) for being just but may in fact be a throughgoing rogue (essence). To confuse the appearance with the essence, i.e. to collapse the former into the latter is the cause of much evil. Similarly, some opinion about the good or the just may be subscribed to merely because this is how it appears to be - "common sense" - but this is no guarantee that it is the truth of the matter. Believing that something is the good when in fact it is can only result in evil. Aquinas incorporates this Greek legacy into his theory of motivation - the will can only move towards the good but it is the intellect that supplies it with the knowledge of the good, the object of willing must appear to be good. This is not enough; the object must really be good. The source of evil then is a deception at the level of intellect. This is why in Christianity the devil is known as the father of lies.

Petr
03-15-2006, 06:24 AM
And how on earth are you going to logically reconcile this devotion to the freedom of thought with your hatred of libertarianism?

(Plato specifically laid out his plans in The Republic for weeding out inconvenient thought processes by censoring Homer's poetry et al. Today that is known as brainwashing.)
Ping!

Are you going to answer this one, Fade? :)

My own secular worldview is a Bible-dominated mixture of conservatism and libertarianism (the Christian "law of liberty"), so I don't need to propound a 100 %-statist system as a necessary condition to maintain morality.

Now, Plato was not exactly wrong with his censorious impulses - he was only being a consistent statist who realized that in a totalitarian collective, the very concept of individual judgment can be very dangerous...

...and it seems that certain successful statist agreed with him on this:


"If my soldiers were to begin to think, not one would remain in the ranks."

Frederick The Great
king of Prussia 1740-1786 (1712 - 1786)


Petr

Vindex
03-15-2006, 07:33 AM
"It has served us well, this myth of Christ"
-Pope Leo X (1475-1521)*

"A special place in hell for…intellectuals who make problems more complex than they actually are, and berate clarifiers and simplifiers. It is anti-intellectual to make things more confusing than they must be."
-Alex Linder

Petr
03-15-2006, 11:31 AM
"It has served us well, this myth of Christ"
-Pope Leo X (1475-1521)*
BEEP! Wrong answer.

You have uncritically bought into an urban myth: :p

http://www.tektonics.org/lp/popeleox.html


Petr

cerberus
03-15-2006, 11:34 AM
“There is nothing more difficult to carry out, nor more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to handle, that to institute a new order of things”
Niccolo Machiavelli

Helios Panoptes
03-16-2006, 09:24 AM
Such is not the course adopted by tyranny in democratic republics; there the body is left free, and the soul is enslaved. The master no longer says: "You shall think as I do or you shall die"; but he says: "You are free to think differently from me and to retain your life, your property, and all that you possess; but you are henceforth a stranger among your people. You may retain your civil rights, but they will be useless to you, for you will never be chosen by your fellow citizens if you solicit their votes; and they will affect to scorn you if you ask for their esteem. You will remain among men, but you will be deprived of the rights of mankind. Your fellow creatures will shun you like an impure being; and even those who believe in your innocence will abandon you, lest they should be shunned in their turn. Go in peace! I have given you your life, but it is an existence worse than death."

~ Alexis de Tocqueville

Ahknaton
03-16-2006, 09:26 AM
"He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot" - Groucho Marx

(this quote fits GWB to a T IMHO)

Anarch
03-16-2006, 11:51 AM
Blood alone moves the wheels of history
- Benito Mussolini

It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims.
- Aristotle

Character is destiny
- Heraclites

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable.
- Mark Twain

The overman...Who has organized the chaos of his passions, given style to his character, and become creative. Aware of life's terrors, he affirms life without resentment.
- Friedrich Nietzsche

Plato is boring.
- Friedrich Nietzsche

A man with only the humblest of means will cling to life like a leech on a pig's ass. But a man with nothing cannot know fear
- Anonymous

All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream at night, in the dusky recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity. But the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams, with open eyes, to make it possible.
- T. E. Lawrence

infoterror
03-17-2006, 10:47 PM
Pagans think that man is essentially good, that if he were only educated and trained in a proper manner he would cease to do evil. This is the ideological basis of the entire Enlightenment project.

This is why pagans blame ignorance, not "good" or "evil," for human failings. Nonetheless, they believe such things are inborn: proof is our caste system which predates Christianity.

Christianity CAN work if approached in a certain way; as normally approached, it has been a disaster for Europe.

infoterror
03-17-2006, 10:49 PM
Every nation ridicules other nations, and all are right.
- Arthur Schopenhauer

Atlas
03-17-2006, 10:59 PM
"From time to time, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots."

--Thomas Jefferson--



"War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it, the crueler it is the sooner it will be over".

--William Tecumseh Sherman--



"Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a difference in the world, but the Marines don't have that problem."

--Ronald Reagan--



"Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking!"

--Ferdinand Foch--

sugartits
03-17-2006, 11:29 PM
"He who has a library and a garden wants for nothing" -Cicero

Loverly.

OVERWATCH
03-17-2006, 11:34 PM
"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of
us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"

"Retreat, hell! we're attacking in the other direction"

- Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC

Jofreidr_1488
03-26-2006, 10:32 AM
“Better to wear the helmet of a Red Army soldier than to live on a diet of hamburgers in Brooklyn.” -- Alain de Benoist


""Suppose someone or other didn't really want such freedom, soaked in blood and smelling of oil?" -- President Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus


"The United States is a farce controlled by dirty, hook-nosed circumcised Jew bastards." -- Bobby Fischer

Jonathan
04-04-2006, 12:49 PM
#1 Better to be a bollocks than a gobshite. – X

#2 My life is a struggle. – Voltaire

#3 Always plan ahead. – Richard C. Cushing

#4 From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs! – Karl Marx

#6 And though hard be the task, 'Keep a stiff upper lip'. - Phoebe Cary

#7 Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country. – John F. Kennedy

#8 [I]The Irish Nation is the whole people, of every class, creed, and outlook. We recognise no distinction. It will be our aim to weld all our people nationally together who have hitherto been divided in political and social and economic outlook…Whatever form of free government we had, it would be the Government of the Irish Nation. All the other elements, old Unionists, Home Rulers, Devolutionists, would have to be allowed freedom and self- expression. The only way to build the nation solid and Irish is to effect these elements in a friendly national way---by attraction, not by compulsion, making them feel themselves welcomed into the Irish Nation, in which they can join and become absorbed, as long ago the Geraldines and the de Burgos became absorbed…With all their natural intelligence, the horizon of many of our people has become bounded by the daily newspaper, the public-house, and the racecourse. English civilization made us into the stage Irishman, hardly a caricature…Mr. de Valera, in a speech he made on February 19, warned the people of Ireland against a life of ease, against living practically `the life of the beasts', which, he fears, they may be tempted to do in Ireland under the Free State. The chance that materialism will take possession of the Irish people is no more likely in a free Ireland under the Free State than it would be in a free Ireland under a Republican or any other form of government. It is in the hands of the Irish people themselves…The real riches of the Irish nation will be the men and women of the Irish nation, the extent to which they are rich in body and mind and character. – Michael Collins (Path To Freedom)

#9 I have what every poet hates in spite
Of all the solemn talk of contemplation.
Oh, Alexander Selkirk knew the plight
Of being king and government and nation.
A road, a mile of kingdom. I am king
Of banks and stones and every blooming thing.
- Patrick Kavanagh

#10 Oh, I loved too much and by such and such
Is happiness thrown away.
- Patrick Kavanagh

#11 And he is not so sure now if his mother was right
When she praised the man who made a field his bride
- Patrick Kavanagh

The best lines I've ever read from the Phora have to be:

#12 Libertarianism. A motley crew of libertine deviants, anarchist perverts, asocial nihilists, beatnik expressivity, amoral narcissists, and ruthless capitalists united in a common struggle to promote license and lawlessness. - FadetheButcher

or else:

I don't want to be a celebrity or a dictator - Anticitizen One

I was thinking of posting, what is IMO, my own best post too, but it's from another website, and it would give away my identity. :(

Edited:

Add to that Rudyard Kipling's "If".

Ace Rimmer
04-06-2006, 07:39 PM
"I have never allowed schooling to interfere with my education"
-Mark Twain

Anarch
04-07-2006, 03:08 AM
Never underestimate the flexibility of human nature.
- Me.

"To demand 'sense' is the hallmark of nonsense. Nature does not make sense. Nothing makes sense."
-Ayn Rand

"What garlic is to salad, insanity is to art."
-Augustus Saint-Gaudens

"To speak of right and wrong per se makes no sense at all. No act of violence, rape, exploitation, destruction, is intrinsically unjust, since life itself is violent, rapacious, exploitative, and destructive, and cannot be conceived otherwise."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

"Man would sooner have the Void for his purpose than be void of Purpose."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

"No matter where or what, there are makers, takers, and fakers."
-Robert Heinlein

"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes."
-Oscar Wilde

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
-Albert Einstein

"People only see what they are prepared to see."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

"The radical of one century is the conservative of the next. The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them."
-Mark Twain

"It is better to deserve honours and not have them than to have them and not to deserve them."
-Mark Twain

"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt toward people we personally dislike."
-Oscar Wilde

"The world is populated in the main by people who should not exist."
-George Bernard Shaw

"Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time."
-Henry Louis Mencken

"If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
-Anatole France

"Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps; for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be."
-William Hazlitt

"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
-George Orwell

"Unhappiness is best defined as the difference between our talents and our expectations."
-Edward de Bono

"Whoever wishes to keep a secret must hide the fact that he possess one."
-Johann Wolfgang Van Goethe

"While asking something you don't know to others is a temporary shame, not asking at all causes a lifetime of shame"
-Japanese proverb

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle

"A very popular error—having the courage of one’s convictions. It is rather a matter of having the courage for an attack upon one’s convictions. Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

"Do not be too moral. You may cheat yourself out of much life. So aim above morality. Be not simply good; be good for something."
-Henry David Thoreau

"As many more individuals of each species are born than can possibly survive; and as, consequently, there is a frequently recurring struggle for existence, it follows that any being, if it vary however slightly in any manner profitable to itself, under the complex and sometimes varying conditions of life, will have a better chance of surviving, and thus be naturally selected."
-Charles Darwin

"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze too long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."
-Nietzsche

"Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go."
-T. S. Eliot

"You do not destroy an idea by killing people; you replace it with a better one."
-Edward Keating

"The empires of the future are the empires of the mind."
-Winston Churchill

"It is our needs that interpret the world; our drives and their For and Against. Every drive is a kind of lust to rule; each one has its perspective that it would like to compel all other drives to accept as a norm."
-Friedrick Nietzsche

"Four things come not back: the spoken word, the spent arrow, the past, the neglected opportunity."
-Omar Idn Al-Halif

"There are two rules for success: 1) Never tell everything you know."
-Roger H. Lincoln

Dan Dare
04-07-2006, 05:21 AM
'Numbers are of the essence' - Enoch Powell

'The Hun is either at your feet or at your throat' - Winston Churchill

'A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds' - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Jonathan
04-07-2006, 10:21 AM
May I add:
Hate is the coward's revenge for intimidation.
-George Bernard Shaw

Oh, and
"Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps; for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be."
-William Hazlitt

"Do not be too moral. You may cheat yourself out of much life. So aim above morality. Be not simply good; be good for something."
-Henry David Thoreau
Yoink!

The Retard
04-12-2006, 04:24 AM
Not only are Jews good in their eyes, but they are now seen as no worse than, or as good as, anyone else in the West. Consequently, 'antisemitism' is now understood as a highly pejorative term both by Jews and non-Jews -- which is what makes the charges of 'antisemitism" loosely defined, so useful a weapon in political discourse. So long as memories of the 'final solution' remain vivid the use of that special term of dark origin implies that there is something unsually and uniquely evil about any serious hostility towards Jews.

--Gavin Langmuir

Helios Panoptes
04-12-2006, 08:58 AM
We must not omit to notice that the followers of this doctrine, anxious to display their talent in assigning final causes, have imported a new method of argument in proof of their theory--namely, a reduction, not to the impossible, but to ignorance; thus showing that they have no other method of exhibiting their doctrine. For example, if a stone falls from a roof on to some one's head and kills him, they will demonstrate by their new method, that the stone fell in order to kill the man; for, if it had not by God's will fallen with that object, how could so many circumstances (and there are often many concurrent circumstances) have all happened together by chance? Perhaps you will answer that the event is due to the facts that the wind was blowing, and the man was walking that way. "But why, they will insist, "was the wind blowing, and why was the man at that very time walking that way ?~ If you again answer, that the wind had then sprung up because the sea had begun to be agitated the day before, the weather being previously calm, and that the man had been invited by a friend, they will again insist: "But why was the sea agitated, and why was the man invited at that time? So they will pursue their questions from cause to cause, till at last you take refuge in the will of God--in other words, the sanctuary of ignorance. So, again, when they survey the frame of the human body, they are amazed; and being ignorant of the causes of so great a work of art conclude that it has been fashioned, not mechanically, but by divine and supernatural skill, and has been so put together that one part shall not hurt another.

Hence any one who seeks for the true causes of miracles, and strives to understand natural phenomena as an intelligent being, and not to gaze at them like a fool, is set down and denounced as an impious heretic by those, whom the masses adore as the interpreters of nature and the gods. Such persons know that, with the removal of ignorance, the wonder which forms their only available means for proving and preserving their authority would vanish also.

- enlightening passage from Spinoza's Ethics

Geist
04-12-2006, 10:13 AM
‘They pretend there is a true sensibility we can draw on to conform (in the isolation of pure reason, you see) the certainty of the violation. But there are no such norms! None that belong to the collectivities of our living world’ p. 95

Margalis, Joseph ‘Comrade Heidegger’, in Martin Heidegger and the Holocaust ed. Alan Milchman and Alan Rosenberg, Humanities Press, New Jersey 1996.

Those who degenerate are of the highest importance whenever progress takes place; every great progress must be preceded by a partial weakening. The strongest types hold fast to the type; the weaker ones help to develop it further. 55

Nietzsche, Friedrich. The Portable Nietzsche. Trans. Walter Kaufmann. U.S.A.: Penguin, 1976. human all to human

But let us not be fooled: objects are categories of objects which quite tyrannically induce categories of persons. They undertake the policings of social meanings, and the significations they engender are controlled. Their proliferation, simultaneously arbitrary and coherent, is the best vehicle for social order, equally arbitrary and coherent, to materialize itself effectively under the sign of affluence.


Baudrillard, Jean ed. Mark Poster Jean Baudrillard: Selected Writings Stanford University Press, UK 2001.


The light thus produced was deliciously soft, mysterious, and subdued; it fell equally upon all the objects in the room; it helped to intensify the deep silence, and the air of profound silence that possessed the place; and it surrounded, with an appropriate halo of repose, the solitary figure of the master of the house, leaning back listlessly composed, in a large easy-chair, with a reading easel fastened on ones of its arms, and a little table on the other. (Collins 65)

Collins, Wilkie. The Woman in White. Great Britain: Penguin, 1974.


“let me advise you to be a little more cautious for the future; and as for faces—you may look into them to know whether a man’s nose be a long or short one.” (MacKenzie 84)


McKenzie, Henry. The Man of Feeling. Ed. Maureen Harkin. Canada: Broadview, 2005.

Jonathan
05-07-2006, 10:02 AM
"Man is condemned to be free" - Jean Paul Sartre.

Thanks Ken;)

Edit:
The mark of savages everywhere has always been enslavement to their appetites. - Fade

Ravenheart
05-07-2006, 10:55 AM
"It is one of the commonest beliefs of the day that the human race collectively has before it splendid destinies of various kind, and that the road to them is to be found in the removal of all restraint on human conduct, in the recognition of a substantial equality between all human creatures, and in fraternity or general love. These doctrines … are regarded not merely as truths, but as truths for which those who believe in them are ready to do battle. … Such, stated in the most general terms, is the religion of which I take “Liberty, Equality, Fraternity” to be the creed. I do not believe it."
-James Fitzjames Stephen

"The common error was to believe that if the individual were liberated from the smaller organic groups he would be set free. But in actual fact he was exposed to the influence of mass currents, to the influence of the state, and direct integration into mass society."
-Jacques Ellul

"But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint."
-Edmund Burke

"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock."
-Thomas Jefferson

"It's a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within."
-William Durant

"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution."
-Theodosius Dobzhansky

"It is of great consequence in what bodies souls are placed, for many things spring from the body that sharpen the mind, and many that blunt and dull it."
-Cicero

"Could not the undesirables be got rid of and the desirables multiplied?"
-Francis Galton

"One cannot weep for the entire world, it is beyond human strength. One must choose."
-Jean Anouilh

"The mark of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and tragedy. What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls a butterfly."
-Richard David Bach

"The breakdowns and disintegrations of civilizations might be the stepping-stones to higher things on the religious plane."
-Arnold Toynbee

"The empires of the future are the empires of the mind."
-Winston Churchill

"There is about certain outlines and entities a power of symbolism and suggestion which acts frightfully on a sensitive thinker's perspective and whispers terrible hints of obscure cosmic relationships and unnameable realities behind the protective illusions of common vision."
-H.P. Lovecraft

"Even the most gigantic confrontation of forces is nothing but a mechanism wherein today, as in every era throughout history, a man’s weight is taken."
-Ernst Jünger

"These persistent ideals of the race are at once the contradiction of its normal experience and the affirmation of higher and deeper experiences which are abnormal to humanity and only to be attained, in their organised entirety, by a revolutionary individual effort or an evolutionary general progression."
-Sri Aurobindo

"No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little."
-Edmund Burke

Jonathan
07-01-2006, 10:07 PM
Trust to hard work, perseverance and determination. And the best motto for a long march is "Don't grumble. Plug on!"--Sir Frederick Treves

Aragorn
12-20-2006, 01:20 PM
The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to look things in the face and know them for what they are.
-MARCUS AURELIUS-

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
-CARL SAGAN-

Let us teach the traitors and rats and pygmies once more to cringe in terror in their huts and pray; lord, save us from the fury of the men from the north.
-GEORGE LINCOLN ROCKWELL-

Europe is like the Roman empire; indulged, decadent, flooded with immigrants and unprepared to fight for its culture.
-PHILIP DEWINTER-

Live free or die.
-JOHN STARK-


I dont see much future for the Americans.... Everything about the behaviour of American society reveals that it is half judaized, and the other half negrified. How can one expect a state like that to hold together?
-ADOLF HITLER-


All those who are not racially pure are mere chaff.
-ADOLF HITLER-

Kostya Novoselov
05-05-2010, 08:59 PM
I like simple experiments, and champagne.
- STEPHEN HAWKING -