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Felix the Cat
03-10-2006, 12:34 AM
http://www.amconmag.com/2006/2006_03_13/feature.html

If you wish to get along with a man, you do not insult his faith. And if you seek to persuade devout Muslims that al-Qaeda is our enemy, not Islam, you do not condone with silence insults to the faith of a billion people.

Understanding this, President Bush ceased to call the war on terror a “crusade.” Visiting a mosque, he removed his shoes. He has hosted White House gatherings for the breaking of the fast at the end of Ramadan. He sent Karen Hughes to the State Department to improve our dismal image in the Islamic world. He has declared more times than many of us care to recall, “Islam is a religion of peace.”

President Bush knows we are in a struggle for the hearts and minds of Islamic peoples, and if we are to win this struggle we must separate the Muslim monsters from the masses. For as that great American military mind Col. John Boyd defined it, strategy is the appending to oneself of as many centers of power as possible and isolating your enemy from as many centers of power as possible.

This is what makes the Mohammed cartoons so stupid and self-destructive. They have given Islamic extremists visible proof to show pious Muslims that the West relishes mocking what they hold most sacred: the prophet. They have united Muslim moderates with militants in common rage against us. They have added to the hatred of the West in the Islamic world as friends like King Abdullah of Jordan, Presidents Mubarak of Egypt and Karzai of Afghanistan, and Prime Minister Erdogan of Turkey warned us they would.

One wonders. Did the cynical Europeans learn nothing from the Salman Rushdie episode? Did they learn nothing from the firestorm that erupted in the Islamic world when Christian ministers in the United States, post-9/11, called Mohammed a “terrorist”?

Why then did they do this? Why did the Danish paper Jyllands-Posten publish cartoons it knew to be so blasphemous to Muslims? Why did Le Monde, France Soir, Die Welt, El Pais, Il Stampa republish them—on their front pages? If a European newsman was oblivious to the probable effect among Muslims of plastering a cartoon of Mohammed with a bomb in his turban on page one, he is too stupid to be an editor. But if he did know the near-certain effect of such an in-your-face provocation, why would he do it? Is this the reflexive secularist hostility of the Europress to all religious faiths on display here or something else?

And so we come to the heart of the matter. Why? What was the motive here? What is the game that is afoot? The rationale of the imams who ensured that all Muslims knew of the cartoons and their contents and called for demonstrations and assaults on Western consulates and embassies is evident. They hate us, and they wish to drive us out of the Middle East. But what propelled our own ideologues to prod U.S. editors to republish the cartoons in “solidarity” with the Europeans? Who pushed George W. Bush and Condi Rice not to condemn the cartoons but to “stand up” for the freedom to publish and defy any “intimidation” by the Islamic world?

Answer: our cultural warmongers, who seek the same goal as their cultural warmongers—to ignite a war of civilizations. Both want the “long war” of which the Pentagon speaks, the “World War IV” against “Islamofascism” that is the dream of neoconservatives and the nightmare of their countrymen.

As has been evident for some time, bin Laden and the neocons both seek the same thing: a fight to the finish, no matter how long, no matter how many invasions it takes, no matter how many lives are lost. For if peace were reached between the Islamic world and the West, even a cold peace with Iran and Syria, what would they do then?

As the provocations of Ahmadinejad are music to the ears of neocons, for they rule out dialogue and diplomacy, the escalation of the cartoon wars into an all-out culture war between Islam and the West has made their day. But it has also wiped out much of the goodwill that George W. Bush has sought to rebuild in the region.

As one explores the arguments of the provocateurs in the West for what they are doing, on inspection all appear hollow. “We believe in the First Amendment!” comes the blustery reply of journalists when asked why they published the cartoons. The First Amendment protected the right of Trent Lott to toast Strom Thurmond. But that did not save Lott from the savagery of the neocons who demanded and got his ouster as Senate majority leader. Yet which is the more egregious offense? To pay a birthday tribute to a century-old man who was once a segregationist or to insult deliberately the most revered figure in the faith of a billion people?

Daily, U.S. editors decline to publish ethnic slurs and obscene remarks and cartoons that might offend a race or religion. This is not censorship. It is editorial judgment. The motto of the New York Times, which declined to publish the offending cartoons, is “All the News That’s Fit to Print.”

Conservatives contend that Islamic nations tolerate cartoons and TV shows far more viciously anti-Semitic than these cartoons were anti-Islamic. They are right. But Western newspapers never publish such cartoons, first, because they are outrageous, second, because publication would cost them advertisers, readers, and maybe their jobs. Insulting Muslims and Mohammed is a less risky and less expensive hobby than insulting Judaism or Jews. Indeed, if you insult Islam, you can make out credentials as a moral hero.

Though State initially condemned the cartoons—“Inciting religious or ethnic hatreds in this manner is unacceptable”—the neocons rapidly re-seized control of the message. In hours, State was in retreat: “While we share the offense that Muslims have taken at these images, we at the same time vigorously defend the right of individuals to express points of view.” Of course we do. But do we believe freedom of the press was responsibly exercised when these idiot editors used it to incite a religious war?

And when it comes to press freedom, Europeans are world-class hypocrites. British historian David Irving has spent months in a prison in Vienna awaiting trial for two speeches he made 15 years ago. In Europe, skeptics and deniers of the Holocaust are fined and imprisoned with the enthusiastic endorsement of the press.

Unfortunately, Bush let slip an opportunity to show respect for the Islamic world and faith and, instead, let himself be intimidated into silently condoning an insult to both. Standing beside the King of Jordan, Bush denounced the violence the cartoons had ignited but declined to condemn the cartoons. Condi Rice denounced Iran and Syria for exploiting the rage over the cartoons but did not condemn the cause of that rage. If there is a double standard here, Bush is the guilty party. He rightly denounced Iran’s president for mocking the Holocaust but would not denounce the European press for mocking the prophet.

If Bush and Rice cannot muster the moral courage to condemn the insulting content of the cartoons, as well as the violence being promoted by anti-Western agitators and demagogues, our wars for democracy in the Middle East are in vain. For we can never win the friendship of these people if they believe our words of respect for their religion cover up a sneering contempt.

WFHermans
03-10-2006, 12:45 AM
And when it comes to press freedom, Europeans are world-class hypocrites. British historian David Irving has spent months in a prison in Vienna awaiting trial for two speeches he made 15 years ago. In Europe, skeptics and deniers of the Holocaust are fined and imprisoned with the enthusiastic endorsement of the press.
Exactly. All the politicians and journalists in the world who say they are for freedom of speech, but don't say a word about political prisoner David Irving, are lying hypocrites.

Kodos
03-10-2006, 07:13 AM
I'd say the best way to win their hearts and minds is the way the mongols did, putting a few cities "to the sword" so to speak. If your going to riot over a cartoon published far away from where you live EXTREME measures need to be taken.


This is what makes the Mohammed cartoons so stupid and self-destructive. They have given Islamic extremists visible proof to show pious Muslims that the West relishes mocking what they hold most sacred: the prophet. They have united Muslim moderates with militants in common rage against us.

What a worthless fucking dhimmi Buchanan is. Yeah we should really abridge our freedom of speech to appease these moon worshipping camelfuckers.

Bush denounced the violence the cartoons had ignited but declined to condemn the cartoons

A rare display of backbone from that jellyfish.

Heimdall
03-10-2006, 07:19 AM
Why then did they do this? Why did the Danish paper Jyllands-Posten publish cartoons it knew to be so blasphemous to Muslims? Why did Le Monde, France Soir, Die Welt, El Pais, Il Stampa republish them—on their front pages? If a European newsman was oblivious to the probable effect among Muslims of plastering a cartoon of Mohammed with a bomb in his turban on page one, he is too stupid to be an editor. But if he did know the near-certain effect of such an in-your-face provocation, why would he do it? Is this the reflexive secularist hostility of the Europress to all religious faiths on display here or something else?

Buchanan doesn't get it, and all together seems ignorant of the fact that the rabble wasn't roused until months after the cartoons were published. He also forgets to mention that there were many "fake" cartoons shown to the Muslims which were likely created by whoever was doing the rousing themselves.

Starr
03-10-2006, 07:27 AM
what freedom of speech do you speak of emperor? All he is saying is that these cartoons were stupid at this time, and that they are being used to further instigate pre-existing tensions. which is true enough.

I don't get him at times when he talks about Bush. He seems to go back and forth between sharp criticism to occassion fawning praise, even and than to the idea that Bush is just some stupid dupe. which is it Pat?:confused:

Kodos
03-10-2006, 07:35 AM
what freedom of speech do you speak of emperor? All he is saying is that these cartoons were stupid at this time, and that they are being used to further instigate pre-existing tensions. which is true enough.

The reaction of any sensible Western chauvinist, as Buchanan makes himself out as, to PEOPLE RIOTING OVER A FUCKING CARTOON, wait let me repeat this in case it didn't sink in THEY ARE RIOTING OVER A FUCKING CARTOON... Is to give the speech( ref the 6 million dollar man)

"We can destroy them, we have the technology, we have the capability to utterly pwn these moon worshipping camelfuckers."...

Jimbo Gomez
03-10-2006, 09:44 AM
I'm with weikel here. Buchannan wants Europe to bend over and adapt its laws to cater for those unwashed brown hordes.

WFHermans
03-10-2006, 09:57 AM
http://www.nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/155-75dpi.jpg

We in Europe had to bend over and adapt our laws to cater for those unwashed hooknosed brown hordes since 1945.

Gorilla
03-10-2006, 10:08 AM
THEY ARE RIOTING OVER A FUCKING CARTOON

Nearly all the rioters are young males of reproductive age, with high testosterone.

WFHermans
03-10-2006, 11:04 AM
Denmark is part of the Axis of Evil that keeps Iraq occupied.

Gorilla
03-10-2006, 11:07 AM
Denmark is part of the Axis of Evil that keeps Iraq occupied.

The axis of evil that comprises the occupation of the West comprises the semites, the africans, and the asians.

I wholeheartedly support the Danish intifadah. And soon, maybe more will participate.

Count Eustace II
03-10-2006, 01:36 PM
I think Buchanan is simply exposing one of many double standards in Western Judaized culture. He doesn't bring up David Irving's imprisonment for nothing.

Crowley
03-10-2006, 03:01 PM
The reaction of any sensible Western chauvinist, as Buchanan makes himself out as, to PEOPLE RIOTING OVER A FUCKING CARTOON, wait let me repeat this in case it didn't sink in THEY ARE RIOTING OVER A FUCKING CARTOON...

Not pro Islamic BUT Christians should have rioted over Piss Christ.

Basil Fawlty
03-10-2006, 04:04 PM
What is this "Danish Intifada"? What is the significance of the friendship between Flemming Rose (one of the editors at Jyllands-Posten) and Daniel Pipes (Raving Zionist and Neocon cheerleader)? Rose (interesting name) wrote an approving article about Pipes thus demonstrating his Zionist/neo-con sympathies.

Jofreidr_1488
03-11-2006, 11:58 AM
I don't get him at times when he talks about Bush. He seems to go back and forth between sharp criticism to occassion fawning praise, even and than to the idea that Bush is just some stupid dupe. which is it Pat?:confused:

It seems that squinty-eyed Pat is playing a very careful game of letting the people know what is going on with his writings while being very careful with his criticisms of the neo-cons (and Bush) so that he is not TOTALLY marginalized and fired from World Net Daily columns and being on the Mclaughlin Group (remember that the jews fired Sam Francis from that jewspaper for being outspoken in the favor of Whites and)

Luckily with the American Conservative Buchanan has Taki on the editorial page to offer a little harder edge and let people know a little bit more of what is going on (note that Buchanan endorsed Bush twice to keep his media connections, but Taki endorsed Peroutka in 2004 which is who people should have really voted for.)

Kodos
03-11-2006, 06:21 PM
Not pro Islamic BUT Christians should have rioted over Piss Christ.

Why acknowledge crappy art at all. Rioting gives it dignity...

Starr
03-11-2006, 06:35 PM
Why acknowledge crappy art at all. Rioting gives it dignity...


In some ways, yes. And as with the cartoons it is going to create a situation where some are going to react to the rioting with further attempts to piss off those who are throwing a fit about it. But it does also say we are not going to stand by silently and let you do this. All in all, however rioting and acting like an uncivilized nigger is not the way to go.

Crowley
03-11-2006, 06:45 PM
Why acknowledge crappy art at all. Rioting gives it dignity...

Art critics, museums, and academies give art dignity, not rioters. Rioters react to the disgrace of giving dignity to something that insults our cultural heritage, our religion, or both.

If you are walking down the street and some sleazeball spits on you, what are you going to do?

Crowley
03-11-2006, 06:51 PM
Do you remember from art history that when French Impressionists first showed their art, citizens rioted? You might laugh at this, but it demonstrates a vital culture.

The Retard
03-11-2006, 07:11 PM
I don't think I've ever seen that pisschrist painting(if it's even a painting at all), what does it look like?

Kodos
03-11-2006, 07:50 PM
Art critics, museums, and academies give art dignity, not rioters.

They've so discredited themselves over the years, what does piss christ look like anyways...

If you are walking down the street and some sleazeball spits on you, what are you going to do?

I'd be worried about him having AIDs or something so... otoh someone keyed my car a couple days ago and I finally understand that Pulp Fiction scene. It would have been worth him doing it just so I could have caught him doing it.

Crowley
03-11-2006, 11:06 PM
You guys are asking what Pxx Cxxxxx looks like and you have the largest research engine in history at your fingertips. :confused: