Europe’s Right is embracing its Jews

[ogenoct]

http://www.njjewishnews.com/njjn.com/040209/njScholarEuropesRight.html

Scholar: Europe’s Right is embracing its Jews

Old hatreds fading as nationalists turn anger on Muslims

by Debra Rubin
NJJN Bureau Chief/Middlesex

March 31, 2009

A wave of anti-Israel and anti-Semitic rhetoric in Europe is being met by a surprising countertrend: right-wing political factions, including those rooted in Nazism, who have embraced Jews and Israel as “the quintessential guardians of European culture.”

So argues Matti Bunzl, director of the program in Jewish culture and society at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, who contends that the European far Right is becoming “genuinely philo-Semitic.”

Such parties have thrown their support behind Jewish candidates, have had their leaders appear at pro-Israel rallies, and have written extensively about the virtues of Jews.

“It is not an aberration,” said Bunzl, an anthropologist who specializes in the history and culture of European Jewry.

Bunzl presented The New Philo-Semitism: Israel, Islamophobia, and the Right in Europe at a March 23 program at Trayes Hall on the Douglass campus in New Brunswick. The program was sponsored by Rutgers University’s Allen and Joan Bildner Center for the Study of Jewish Life in conjunction with the Henry Schwartzman Endowed Faculty Seminar.

Bunzl cited numerous instances of this newfound fondness for Jews. Austria’s Freedom Party, founded by former Nazis after the war, has run Jewish candidates, and its website “celebrates Jewish contributions to civilization.”

Filip DeWinter, a Flemish nationalist in Belgium, whose party grew out of Flemish Nazism, has praised Jews as law-abiding citizens.

“Why would a Flemish nationalist need to say nice things about the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in Antwerp?” asked Bunzl. “Is it a Belgian fluke? Too much chocolate perhaps?”

One explanation he offers is Islamophobia — antagonism toward Muslim immigrants or Muslims whose families have migrated to European countries in recent generations.

“Even strong support of Israel among the Right is driven by Islamophobia and perception of Israel as a bastion of European civilization,” said Bunzl, author of Anti-Semitism and Islamophobia: Hatreds Old and New in Europe. For European nationalists, “the Jewish state is trying to preserve its European values against the onslaught of Muslims. It is a European state trying to defend itself and its Western culture and democracy.”

Bunzl finds little solace in this perception.

To him, tikun olam, the concept, he said, “that I think we all believe in, is the idea that Jews should repair the world and work for social justice. I cannot stomach that the far Right has come to love Jews because they now hate Muslims.”

He also said he thinks right-wing philo-Semitism has picked up steam since the formation of the European Union in 1993, which downplayed nationalism in favor of European culture and identity.

Because Jews have lived in and integrated into societies from Poland to France for many hundreds of years, contributing their talents yet maintaining their own traditions, they in essence are now the paradigm for the “perfect European” in the eyes of the far Right, said Bunzl.

“But this is no cause for celebration,” he cautioned.

Bunzl is a self-described rarity, having been born in 1971 into a Jewish family in Vienna. After growing up in the 1980s and hearing anti-Semitic rhetoric from the far Right, he said, makes the recent phenomena particularly fascinating to him.

“In the 1980s I was scared of the far Right,” said Bunzl. “Austria was a scary place.”

Now Jews in Europe have “become infatuated with the far Right” and the number casting votes for them is “growing fast,” although Bunzl acknowledged that most Jews still vote for centrist or left-center candidates.

Still, he wondered, “how high a cost” will Jews pay for supporting nationalist candidates?

“We have to be careful who our friends are,” he said.


Comment: comments@njjewishnews.com

[Arrow Cross]

the European far Right is becoming “genuinely philo-Semitic.”
That's an utter lunatic nonsense, unless you're referring to Western Europe. In the saner parts to the East, both the native nationalists and diaspora Jews know the deal fully well, namely that they're irreconcilable enemies, and will remain so. Especially now, after the "Holocaust".

[ogenoct]

Especially now, after the "Holocaust".

What is that supposed to mean?

[Arrow Cross]

You can read, can't you? Diaspora Jews will do anything in their power to prevent the rise of a new nationalist sentiment in Europe, fearing a second "Holocaust", while nationalists realized long ago that diaspora Jews cannot be integrated, assimilated, or cooperated with, with a minimal exception of a few individuals who are Jewish only in blood.

This idea has been a nonsense all over history, and a nonsense today. Except in your fairy mind.

[Geist]

About bloody time!

[Errigal]

About bloody time!

You're joking right?

Bunzl finds little solace in this perception.

To him, tikun olam, the concept, he said, “that I think we all believe in, is the idea that Jews should repair the world and work for social justice. I cannot stomach that the far Right has come to love Jews because they now hate Muslims.”

The part I highlighted is funny because that's precisely the result the neocon faction intends. The Daniel Pipes types who have so much time for Geert Wilders and that whole crowd.

Also note the Aleinu prayer reference.

The phrase tikkun olam is used in the longer expression l'takken olam b'malkhut Shaddai, "to perfect the world under God's sovereignty."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam

What if the rest of us don't want to be transformed by the "Kingdom of Priests"? What then?

This article is a peek into a kind of Jewish staff meeting. They seem to disagree on methods, not on goals.

[Apocales]

Are the Jews of Europe mostly liberal like in the US? I only ask because I know there are far fewer Jews in Europe then there are here in US. I hope the viable platform would be nationalists for the betterment of nation, however we don't hate jews and if they wanna join us no worries.

[Errigal]

Are the Jews of Europe mostly liberal like in the US? I only ask because I know there are far fewer Jews in Europe then there are here in US. I hope the viable platform would be nationalists for the betterment of nation, however we don't hate jews and if they wanna join us no worries.

From what I've observed the Jews of Europe are overwhelmingly socialists or liberals of the cosmopolitan type. Open Society, globalist, post-nationalist types. The only major deviation from this norm is the growing concern amongst them about Muslim immigration now that the immigrants appear to be turning on their group specifically.

This interview with Bernard-Henri Levy gives a snapshot of a common Euro Jew outlook.

http://www.signandsight.com/features/1305.html

[Geist]

You're joking right?


Nope. It is high time the European right dropped its Jew-fixation, and focused on the real problem: Islamic fundamentalism and mass Islamic immigration. One way to do this is to forge an alliance between gentiles and Jews who both have a vested interest in ending this state of affairs. Liberals and lefties come in all shapes and sizes, and the fact remains that most of them are gentiles.

[Niccolo and Donkey]

Nope. It is high time the European right dropped its Jew-fixation, and focused on the real problem: Islamic fundamentalism and mass Islamic immigration. One way to do this is to forge an alliance between gentiles and Jews who both have a vested interest in ending this state of affairs. Liberals and lefties come in all shapes and sizes, and the fact remains that most of them are gentiles.

This is impossible when Jewish groups and Israel freak out and demand diplomatic action whenever a nationalist force comes anywhere near power in Europe.

The classic example is the sanctions regime put onto Austria because of Haider. Israel is an enemy of European nationalist movements as are the overwhelming bulk of Jewish groups from Simon Wisenthal to the European Jewish Congress.

In order for this to work, Israel and Jewish groups must drop their opposition to European nationalist movements.

[Errigal]

Nope. It is high time the European right dropped its Jew-fixation, and focused on the real problem: Islamic fundamentalism and mass Islamic immigration. One way to do this is to forge an alliance between gentiles and Jews who both have a vested interest in ending this state of affairs. Liberals and lefties come in all shapes and sizes, and the fact remains that most of them are gentiles.

Why can't individuals and political groups do both? One can practise Jew-diligence and actively resist Muslim immigration.

You're a Dubliner aren't you? That's not exactly the beating heart of world Jewry. In Ireland there's no pressing need to bring up the topic of Jews, apart from when trying to make sense of the political scene in other times and places.

[Arrow Cross]

Nope. It is high time the European right dropped its Jew-fixation, and focused on the real problem: Islamic fundamentalism and mass Islamic immigration.
How about attending to both problems, to the necessery degree? Islam is a non-issue in most Eastern European countries, but various Jewish secular and religious groups are in fact blocking the way of any kind of nationalism wherever, whenever, and however they can. This is a fact, and not some conspiracy-theory.

Liberals and lefties come in all shapes and sizes, and the fact remains that most of them are gentiles.
Wow, maybe it has to do something with Jews being, and always having been, a tiny (but still influental) minority?

[ogenoct]

Diaspora Jews will do anything in their power to prevent the rise of a new nationalist sentiment in Europe, fearing a second "Holocaust", while nationalists realized long ago that diaspora Jews cannot be integrated, assimilated, or cooperated with, with a minimal exception of a few individuals who are Jewish only in blood.

Many Jews are quite happy to work with nationalists, as long as the nationalists are not anti-Semitic crackpots. That makes sense. I believe by "Diaspora Jews" you mean Jewish Europeans? Also: Nationalists realized long ago that liberal Gentiles cannot be cooperated with. The majority of Gentiles are liberal-minded. Why single out the Jews? Most Jews do not fear "a second Holocaust." That is your own paranoia talking. How come one of the FPÖ delegates of the Austrian state parliament in Vienna is David Lasar, a Jewish Austrian (and even a member of the Jewish Religious Society)? See here: http://www.fpoe.at/index.php?id=5418

[Basil Fawlty]

Why can't individuals and political groups do both? One can practise Jew-diligence and actively resist Muslim immigration. I was wondering the same thing myself. All too often we see these false either/or scenarios being described here.
You're a Dubliner aren't you? That's not exactly the beating heart of world Jewry. In Ireland there's no pressing need to bring up the topic of Jews, apart from when trying to make sense of the political scene in other times and places.You mean like Cromwell and King Billy's financiers?

[Errigal]

...
You mean like Cromwell and King Billy's financiers?

Yeah, I think that would be a legitimate argument. I think an historian would be on firm ground if he took the position that Cromwell had the aleynu prayer ringing in his ears as he tore through Ireland.

Eternal our God, we therefore hope
soon to see Your majestic glory;
To remove idols from the earth,
so that the false gods will be destroyed

http://www.bc.edu/research/cjl/meta-elements/texts/cjrelations/resources/sourcebook/Aleynu.htm

King Billy maybe is tangled up too. There's a case to be made.

[Geist]

This is impossible when Jewish groups and Israel freak out and demand diplomatic action whenever a nationalist force comes anywhere near power in Europe.

It is also difficult because gentile governments freak out and act on thee demans because they too have a vested interest in quelling the far-right. Our liberal governments are to blame; not Jews in a nation in the Middle East.

The classic example is the sanctions regime put onto Austria because of Haider. Israel is an enemy of European nationalist movements as are the overwhelming bulk of Jewish groups from Simon Wisenthal to the European Jewish Congress.

So what if Israel is an enemy of European nationalists? So are European gentile governments.

[Geist]

Why can't individuals and political groups do both? One can practise Jew-diligence and actively resist Muslim immigration.

I guess you can. I'm just opting for the immediate problem. Jews do not threaten Europe in the same way Islam does. It is a numbers game as they say.

You're a Dubliner aren't you? That's not exactly the beating heart of world Jewry. In Ireland there's no pressing need to bring up the topic of Jews, apart from when trying to make sense of the political scene in other times and places.

I'm a Dubliner, but I've lived in a few European countries (the Netherlands and Germany), and even there I would make the same claim. In fact in those countries Islam is a very obvious, in your face problem.

[Geist]

How about attending to both problems, to the necessery degree? Islam is a non-issue in most Eastern European countries, but various Jewish secular and religious groups are in fact blocking the way of any kind of nationalism wherever, whenever, and however they can. This is a fact, and not some conspiracy-theory.

OK, but why not place Jews in the same place as gentile liberals. The problem is liberalism and its disdain for nationalism. That is the issue.


Wow, maybe it has to do something with Jews being, and always having been, a tiny (but still influental) minority?

Jews simply adopt the most congenial liberal position. So do gentiles. There are more gentiles therefore their influence remains the mainstream. You are displacing the blame.

[Niccolo and Donkey]

It is also difficult because gentile governments freak out and act on thee demans because they too have a vested interest in quelling the far-right. Our liberal governments are to blame; not Jews in a nation in the Middle East.

I'm not denying the blame of liberals in our governments, but no one here is suggesting a coalition with liberals unlike with Jews.


So what if Israel is an enemy of European nationalists? So are European gentile governments.

This defeats the point of the thread, Geist.

Liberals find nationalism an anathema as do Jews. Why side with those that oppose your raison d'etre?

It's simply nonsensical.

[Starr]

“We have to be careful who our friends are,” he said.

This is most definitely true of the "far right" in this case, also. Of course there are going to be jews who are going to cozy up to them if they are focusing on Muslims. I just hope they are fully aware that jews as a whole are not going to support the idea of people like them coming to power and puting policies into place that negatively impact anyone other than muslims. I hope they remember who it is that so often has championed mass immigration and so many of the policies that are so strongly negatively impacting our nations.

I would say it is ok to look at jews and Israel as a decent model of people who stick together and stand up for their people and interests, but I sure as hell hope people don't overlook that when jewish interests come into conflict with theirs, where those jews will stand. I say the same thing for people who believe allying with Muslims is a good idea.

[Errigal]

I guess you can. I'm just opting for the immediate problem. Jews do not threaten Europe in the same way Islam does. It is a numbers game as they say.

The secret is multitasking. There is no reason to make it an either/or choice when it comes to analyzing the current political landscape.

One shouldn't reject Jew-diligence simply because it's a career killer or is unfashionable. There's a difference between the private exchange of opinions and analysis and the putting together of a party manifesto.


I'm a Dubliner, but I've lived in a few European countries (the Netherlands and Germany), and even there I would make the same claim. In fact in those countries Islam is a very obvious, in your face problem.

Non-European immigrants (of all religions and nationalities) are a more pressing concern than Jewish influence in the European public space. But again, the topic should not be ruled out of bounds if someone wants to figure out how we got here.

[Arrow Cross]

OK, but why not place Jews in the same place as gentile liberals. The problem is liberalism and its disdain for nationalism. That is the issue.
I can't speak for the others, but in my country, the (below 5%) liberal party is practically the Jewish party, and it's pretty clear to everyone. Jews are brutally overrepresented, making up about half of the leadership, this party has extreme wealth and influence (was able to make the former PM of the lot larger "socialist" coalition party step down after he criticized them), and they're also the only party pressing for Western-style open borders, the legalization of all vices, and more Holocaust edjewcation.

You will find most Jews and Jewish organizations in the vicinity of such groups and ideas, and even if you reach an agreement on the Muslim question, these people will oppose you in almost every other way.

Jews simply adopt the most congenial liberal position. So do gentiles. There are more gentiles therefore their influence remains the mainstream. You are displacing the blame.
Once again, our conditions clearly differ, and I'll certainly grant you that Western Europe needs more of a focus on Islam than we do. Liberalism is unpopular around gentiles here, compared to conservativism and social-democracy.

[Ace Rimmer]

Israel is an enemy of European nationalist movements as are the overwhelming bulk of Jewish groups from Simon Wisenthal to the European Jewish Congress.


But not necessarily European Jews.

[Joe McCarthy]

The irony is that this argument is exactly what Jews want and intended. In some of their more sober moments they will admit to having supported Islamic immigration into Europe in order to divide nationalist opposition as to the real threat. Where it went wrong is that the Muslims are now turning on them.

[Errigal]

The irony is that this argument is exactly what Jews want and intended. In some of their more sober moments they will admit to having supported Islamic immigration into Europe in order to divide nationalist opposition as to the real threat. Where it went wrong is that the Muslims are now turning on them.

What would you say has been the US policy on non-European immigration to Europe? What have US diplomats and media outlets said over the years on this topic? Have they been supportive of European anti-immigration and nationalist parties?

[Joe McCarthy]

What would you say has been the US policy on non-European immigration to Europe? What have US diplomats and media outlets said over the years on this topic? Have they been supportive of European anti-immigration and nationalist parties?

The US government (and the media of course) has consistently been on the wrong side of the immigration debate both at home and abroad for decades. It's the primary reason I'm hostile to my government.

[Hakluyt]

This defeats the point of the thread, Geist.

Liberals find nationalism an anathema as do Jews. Why side with those that oppose your raison d'etre?

It's simply nonsensical.

The simple answer would be that these nationalists hope to change that. In historical perspective, it's perfectly understandable that the Jewish and Israeli position on European nationalism should be a negative one by default, and it's incumbent on the nationalists to demonstrate why Jews should be confortable with it.

I don't think it's a particularly good idea myself, because it keeps the nationalist discourse within the odious Jew/Muslim/ME vortex that detracts from the positive arguments for nationalism. I would offer a corollary to the claim that Jews are unimportant on the European scene - that a 'coalition' with them should be equally unimportant.

HOWEVER, the bottom line is: while working with Jews offers only a slight advantage in countering liberalism, what does offer a significant advantage is not working _against_ them. Thus if nationalists are going to condemn themselves to an extreme pro or con stance on the Jews, the pro is necessarily preferable. Sane nationalists have no vested interest in opposing a pro-Israel stance; the best way forward would be silence on the issue, and a shift in the discourse away from Jews and Muslims altogether.

[Felix the Cat]

Jews are not going to ally with people who have persecuted them for centuries, in order to oppose people who have never done them comparable harm

[Apocales]

This is impossible when Jewish groups and Israel freak out and demand diplomatic action whenever a nationalist force comes anywhere near power in Europe.

The classic example is the sanctions regime put onto Austria because of Haider. Israel is an enemy of European nationalist movements as are the overwhelming bulk of Jewish groups from Simon Wisenthal to the European Jewish Congress.

In order for this to work, Israel and Jewish groups must drop their opposition to European nationalist movements.

Israel doesn't look to good for Jews in a 100 or so years if present birthrates continue. You would think Israel would want to work with nationalist groups in various countries to perhaps gain a few jews back, to gain influence for the ones that stay, and to protect Jews from the Muslims who are the main culprits in anti-Jewish attacks across Europe.

[Errigal]

The US government (and the media of course) has consistently been on the wrong side of the immigration debate both at home and abroad for decades. It's the primary reason I'm hostile to my government.

I feel a little bad that I just sent you a neg rep point. I stand behind what I said in that neg rep but I'll add that it's nice to see you concede a point like a normal adult human.

[Joe McCarthy]

Ultimately the best way - at least in a narrow political sense - is a cunning, pragmatic approach like that of Fini in Italy. He'll likely succeed Berlusconi as PM. Ideally such a man could acquire power and then circumstances would develop as to provide a pretext to establish dictatorial powers. The rest would follow for both Semitic tribes in their turn...

[Apocales]

Jews are not going to ally with people who have persecuted them for centuries, in order to oppose people who have never done them comparable harm

Jews can't really bitch about persecution in Israel, perhaps the ones outside of it can. Jewish numbers aren't that great and although they are technically advanced the determination and high birthrate of the Arab world will eventually overwhelm them.

[Joe McCarthy]

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by Hakluyt
Sane nationalists have no vested interest in opposing a pro-Israel stance[/QUOTE

The problem is that a pro-Israel position quickly turns into a pro-Jewish position. Embracing Jews makes nationalists subservient to them and hesitant to criticize Jewish interests, which is often necessary. The same problem is involved in aligning with Muslims. We immediately become the junior partner.

The fact of the matter is that we should be strong enough to come to power on our own. The key is in taking a position toward these two groups in accordance with not alienating our own brainwashed people.

[Kodos]

Israel is an enemy of European nationalist movements

Liberal jews are but why Israel?

[Dan Dare]

I've long believed that the appropriate posture for European nationalists vis-vis the JQ is one of studied indifference.

Discussions about such matters as Jewish over-representation in the media, academia, the legal profession and in politics should be held in private amongst the cognoscenti. Similarly nationalists should avoid embroilment in the Israeli-Arab argument.

There might be case for a nationalist party to bring a token Jew on board as a talisman against charges of anti-Semitism, as with the BNP and its Jewish councillor and the VB with its Jewish MP, but on no account should they be admitted to inner party circles.

[Errigal]

I've long believed that the appropriate posture for European nationalists vis-vis the JQ is one of studied indifference.

Discussions about such matters as Jewish over-representation in the media, academia, the legal profession and in politics should be held in private amongst the cognoscenti. Similarly nationalists should avoid embroilment in the Israeli-Arab argument.

Indifference most days and advocating strict neutrality when the topic is forced to the surface by events. Genuine neutrality on the Israel/Palestine issue would be be a loss for the Israelis and a gain for the Palestinians, but fair's fair.


There might be case for a nationalist party to bring a token Jew on board as a talisman against charges of anti-Semitism, as with the BNP and its Jewish councillor and the VB with its Jewish MP, but on no account should they be admitted to inner party circles.

Giving in to that kind of tokenism is giving into extortion. It turns out badly in many cases.

[Dan Dare]

... Giving in to that kind of tokenism is giving into extortion. It turns out badly in many cases.

I agree it is a risky strategy, overly cynical, and possibly only marginally effective. It is likely to alienate as many supporters as it gains. Allowing Jews into the party doesn't seem to have bought Nick Griffin any immunity from charges of being a Hitler-worshipping, anti-Semitic Holocaust denier.

[Hakluyt]

The problem is that a pro-Israel position quickly turns into a pro-Jewish position. Embracing Jews makes nationalists subservient to them and hesitant to criticize Jewish interests, which is often necessary. The same problem is involved in aligning with Muslims. We immediately become the junior partner.
When is criticising Jewish interests necessary? We can be critical of specific Jewish groups if they persist in paranoid hostility despite our benevolence (hypothetical, in this case), but such hardly represents the Jewish interest.

Perhaps a better question would be what constitutes "Jewish interests"? Americans seem to have markedly different views than Europeans and other inhabitants of the Anglosphere in this regard. I would say it is to live in peace and to support a Jewish state in the Middle East. Perfectly reasonable ambitions.

[Joe McCarthy]

When is criticising Jewish interests necessary? We can be critical of specific Jewish groups if they persist in paranoid hostility despite our benevolence (hypothetical, in this case), but such hardly represents the Jewish interest.

Perhaps a better question would be what constitutes "Jewish interests"? Americans seem to have markedly different views than Europeans and other inhabitants of the Anglosphere in this regard. I would say it is to live in peace and to support a Jewish state in the Middle East. Perfectly reasonable ambitions.

Take the Swiss. When the World Jewish Congress tried to shake down its banks over supposed Jewish funds stolen during the holoco$t, Blocher's party told them where to go. That'd be pretty hard to do if he had a couple of kikes sitting at his shoulder.

It'll be hard enough to take tough stands without unduly hobbling one's self with the enemy by one's side.

[Errigal]

...
Perhaps a better question would be what constitutes "Jewish interests"? Americans seem to have markedly different views than Europeans and other inhabitants of the Anglosphere in this regard. I would say it is to live in peace and to support a Jewish state in the Middle East. Perfectly reasonable ambitions.

They also seem to like to squeeze Christian culture out of the public space and to encourage a more deracinated, atomized and multicultural society.

As well, they like to use their positions in the media, academia and the courts to remind others of their tribe's unique suffering throughout history and the burden of guilt shared by Gentiles. Apart from that they're great.

[Dan Dare]

Jewish interests appear to consist principally in restructuring the host society such that anti-Semitic urges will never be permitted to develop and be acted upon, and in ensuring the continuing existence of the state of Israel.

The former expresses itself in their support for a multiracial, multicultural and secularly liberal society, while the latter is manifested in their efforts to manipulate foreign policy.

Although Jews wield far less overt influence in Europe than in the US, there is a substantial 'spill-over' effect given the hegemonic position of the United States in cultural, political and military terms. No European country would dare to implement social policies or pursue foreign policy objectives that are inimical to the covert interests of American Jewry.

[Errigal]

Jewish interests appear to consist principally in restructuring the host society such that anti-Semitic urges will never be permitted to develop and be acted upon, and in ensuring the continuing existence of the state of Israel.

The former expresses itself in their support for a multiracial, multicultural and secularly liberal society, while the latter is manifested in their efforts to manipulate foreign policy.

Yes, to atomize the host society for the same reason any gatherings are broken up under martial law. Making sure no political policy group, publication or party can leave port without a Jew on deck helps with this goal.

They also network and engage in nepotism for the financial and status benefits themselves. They strengthen the team and pocket their middleman's fee at the same time. "Doing nicely by doing good". Good for their team, of course.


Although Jews wield far less overt influence in Europe than in the US, there is a substantial 'spill-over' effect given the hegemonic position of the United States in cultural, political and military terms. No European country would dare to implement social policies or pursue foreign policy objectives that are inimical to the covert interests of American Jewry.

If I could get one idea into the collective head of Tory England it would be that so many things thought to be American are more precisely Jewish-American. This really matters when the Brits decide to "share" their film, media and book industries with the Americans.

Unfortunately, there have been people at the BBC, the Telegraph Group and Murdoch's machine paid to keep the Alistair Cooke version of the Special Relationship alive in the minds of Middle England.

[Joe McCarthy]

From the ADL:

Along with the pronounced xenophobia and ultra-nationalism in the Swiss People's Party platform and pronouncements, Party leader Christoph Blocher has a record of making anti-Semitic statements. ("Switzerland Is Odd Piece in the Continent's New Mosaic," Dec. 10)



In 1999, a Zurich Court convicted Blocher of using anti-Semitic stereotypes in a speech two years earlier in which he stated, "Jews are interested only in money." In 1997, referring to a planned referendum on a government-initiated "Swiss Foundation for Solidarity" to help needy people, including Holocaust survivors, Mr. Blocher declared "They could blackmail banks, you can blackmail governments, you can blackmail national banks, you can force them to give in. (But) I would like to see if they can blackmail an entire people at the ballot box. They have to get through the eye of this needle, and I will do my utmost that we do not yield." Mr. Blocher's implication was clear that the "they" were Jews.




Sincerely,

Abraham H. Foxman
National Director

[Dan Dare]

...If I could get one idea into the collective head of Tory England it would be that so many things thought to be American are more precisely Jewish-American. This really matters when the Brits decide to "share" their film, media and book industries with the Americans.

Unfortunately, there have been people at the BBC, the Telegraph Group and Murdoch's machine paid to keep the Alistair Cooke version of the Special Relationship alive in the minds of Middle England.

Couldn't agree more. The only glimmer of hope is that scales will fall from eyes when it becomes apparent in due course that the US is no longer a country in which a European heritage is generally appreciated or valued, which will of course be demographically the case in the not very distant future.

Aa far as the "Long Arm" is concerned, I'm afraid that stretches quite a way beyond Blighty. Whilst in Germany last year I searched in vain for a copy of Martin Walser's 'anti-Semitic' novel Tod eines Kritikers [Death of a Critic], about the murder of a prominent Jewish media pundit, said to be a thinly-veiled tale about the so-called 'literary pope' and Holocaust-survivor Marcel Reich-Ranicki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Reich-Ranicki).

Despite being top of the book charts for several weeks on its original publication in 2002, it has never been reprinted and is not available to buy in any retail bookstore in Germany.

[Errigal]

Couldn't agree more. The only glimmer of hope is that scales will fall from eyes when it becomes apparent in due course that the US is no longer a country in which a European heritage is generally appreciated or valued, which will of course be demographically the case in the not very distant future.

Aa far as the "Long Arm" is concerned, I'm afraid that stretches quite a way beyond Blighty. Whilst in Germany last year I searched in vain for a copy of Martin Walser's 'anti-Semitic' novel Tod eines Kritikers [Death of a Critic], about the murder of a prominent Jewish media pundit, said to be a thinly-veiled tale about the so-called 'literary pope' and Holocaust-survivor Marcel Reich-Ranicki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Reich-Ranicki).

Despite being top of the book charts for several weeks on its original publication in 2002, it has never been reprinted and is not available to buy in any retail bookstore in Germany.

I think we're at the end of an era though. An end of the Bilderburg consensus I guess I could say. The "post-nationalist", globalist era is coming to a close I think.

[Hakluyt]

Take the Swiss. When the World Jewish Congress tried to shake down its banks over supposed Jewish funds stolen during the holoco$t, Blocher's party told them where to go. That'd be pretty hard to do if he had a couple of kikes sitting at his shoulder.

It'll be hard enough to take tough stands without unduly hobbling one's self with the enemy by one's side.
That was controversial enough amongst Jews. Hardly a 'Jewish interest'.

[Joe McCarthy]

That was controversial enough amongst Jews. Hardly a 'Jewish interest'.

That's sort of like saying that because a significant minority of blacks oppose affirmative action that it's disqualified as a 'black interest'.

Too often your attempt to be the 'voice of reason' on the Jewish Question veers into the realm of the specious, Hak.

[Starr]

The simple answer would be that these nationalists hope to change that. In historical perspective, it's perfectly understandable that the Jewish and Israeli position on European nationalism should be a negative one by default, and it's incumbent on the nationalists to demonstrate why Jews should be confortable with it.

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Maybe so. Is it also reasonably understandable why nationalists of the white western variety would also have a negative opinion of organized Jewry? I don't see much good coming out of completely sweeping that under the rug. There would be tension under the surface. When you say "pro Israeli stance" what exactly does that entail?

[Lord Nengwen]

No European country would dare to implement social policies or pursue foreign policy objectives that are inimical to the covert interests of American Jewry.
What about Mother Russia selling all sort of nuclear equipment to Iran though??

Are not Slavs European??

What about Russia (re)opening their port in Syria??



Syria The New
Tripwire For WWIII
Lord Stirling
9-18-8 Russian Rear Admiral Andrei Baranov has disclosed that 10 Russian warships are already anchored at the Syrian port of Tartus. Russian engineering crews are widening and dredging the port to accommodate additional Russian warships. The Russians are making clear their intentions of using the large Russian naval presence in Tartus as a deterrent to Israeli air strikes against Syria using the powerful anti-air missiles on-board the Russian naval warships. These missile systems can sweep the sky over most of Syria and knock down Israeli F-15 and F-16 fighters. This changes the balance of power in the air over Syria. This also places a tripwire for World War III in place in the Middle East. Any attack on Iran will also involve a war with Syria and Lebanon. This will now involve Russian military forces in direct support of the Iranian/Syrian alliance. http://www.rense.com/general83/syr.htm

Heck I will double down and mention that the Russkies have in the past talked about arming ACTUAL PALESTINIANS!!! Link (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=22308)

These things are hardly in jewish interests, 'American' or otherwise!

P.S. HAIL CZAR PUTIN! (need a stalin smilie!)

[Dan Dare]

What about Mother Russia selling all sort of nuclear equipment to Iran though??

Are not Slavs European??

I hadn't really been thinking of Russia when making the above comments, but rather the EU and aspirant members. But of course Slavs are Europeans, not least the Russians, it's more the case that they don't perceive themselves to be a part of Europe, politically at least. Hopefully that will change in the future, I have a feeling it will.

What about Russia (re)opening their port in Syria??



Heck I will double down and mention that the Russkies have in the past talked about arming ACTUAL PALESTINIANS!!! Link (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=22308)

These things are hardly in jewish interests, 'American' or otherwise!

P.S. HAIL CZAR PUTIN! (need a stalin smilie!)

I hadn't been aware of those developments, it almost seems like a replay of the 1950s.