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ogenoct
04-04-2009, 04:02 PM
Autonomous Nationalists from England:

their website:

http://enresist.com/

propaganda video:

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Dan Dare
04-04-2009, 05:27 PM
It's like 1976 all over again.

ogenoct
04-04-2009, 05:35 PM
It's like 1976 all over again.

Why? Please elaborate.

Geist
04-04-2009, 05:36 PM
It's like 1976 all over again.

Excuse my youthfulness, but is this a reference to punk? I'm not sure :confused:

I will add that, although this may not look like much to older members, this is precisely the kind of thing which would attract young people. It 'speaks' to them as the media-types would say. I've noticed it more and more in white sub-cultures that being nationalist is becoming something of a backlash against what they see as a hip hop takeover. It is a small step from hip hop takeover to 'why am I forced to adopt a black lifestyle?' It is felt acutely on the streets by rocker types. I'm sure you've seen the tension between the massive hip hop culture in Germany and the kids who define themselves against it there.

Dan Dare
04-04-2009, 05:59 PM
Excuse my youthfulness, but is this a reference to punk? I'm not sure :confused:

I will add that, although this may not look like much to older members, this is precisely the kind of thing which would attract young people. It 'speaks' to them as the media-types would say. I've noticed it more and more in white sub-cultures that being nationalist is becoming something of a backlash against what they see as a hip hop takeover. It is a small step from hip hop takeover to 'why am I forced to adopt a black lifestyle?' It is felt acutely on the streets by rocker types. I'm sure you've seen the tension between the massive hip hop culture in Germany and the kids who define themselves against it there.

Not so much punk, which rapidly became just another branch of Tin Pan Alley, as Oi!, RAC and the NF.

I do applaud such grassroots activism but have a concern about the use of overtly fascist symbology and transatlantic 'hollywood Nazi' terminology. That should be jettisoned, although I can see the value in a simple, powerful slogan like England Awake! even given it's obvious antecedents.

Julian Curtis Lee
04-05-2009, 07:00 AM
Based on the channel's "Favorites" and it's friends, the movie and YouTube channel are clearly a false front designed to 1) Make nationalists look sleazy, and 2) get kids to send in information/videos and incriminate themselves.

Jews and so-called anti-racists do this all the time on YouTube. The movie instructing kids to collect all this specific paraphenalia and equipment is a transparent effort to place incriminating evidence with nationalist kids.

Ogenoct's promotion of the video, only very recently appearing at YouTube, is further confirmation that it's a disinformation front.

Dan Dare
04-05-2009, 05:48 PM
Yes that's certainly plausible Julian, I hadn't looked at it that closely. Obviously anyone planning to get actively involved in any such group should perform due diligence before signing up.

Winston
04-05-2009, 07:26 PM
That video tucked away in their favourites is hardly going to discredit them in the eyes of their target audience, or even the larger public. Linking to judical-inc.biz from their main site, however, would do just that.

Winston
04-06-2009, 11:39 PM
Their latest blog entry:

2 ENR activists and 1 new associate made a trip out this Saturday to give out 3 separate sets of leaflets to youth in the local city centre and 2 separate skate parks. Reception at the skate parks was good with but the age ranges were around 10 - 14 most of them were a bit shy but they took our leaflets home and had a few more off us to give to their mates.

We then roamed the streets handing out leaflets to people in our age range who didn't look like complete idiots with about a %90 success rate in people taking them off us despite the best efforts of the big issue salesmen tarring us with their brush haha !

We settled down in town for about 2/3 hours with the local youths, socialised with them and got a great reaction and an all around thumbs up for our cause. One lad took a stack of leaflets to give out in his local area and all the others read them and took them home. The girls got on the offensive with us as they expected us to be a run of the mill hate group but after about 2 minutes of reasoning and an honest explanation of why we do what we do they were properly on our wavelength and supporting us.

Expect to see much more activity and more regular updates, thanks for bearing with us during our initial setting up - and remember if you don't have any ENR activists in your area then become the first of many !

It doesn't surprise me that they had an easy time courting local kids. Kids have open minds, but they also absorb whatever is put in front of them. It's good that these guys are getting out there and giving young people an alternative to the usual messages which they are bombarded with. I give ENR a hearty thumbs up.

Julian Curtis Lee
04-07-2009, 08:36 AM
I was pleased with the ostensible purpose of the video, and it inspired me to do a little street activism myself. Since complaining about some of their "favorites" they have removed them, and placed a lot of interesting videos from Germany. The "friend" they have featuring a video about David Lane being a pedophile (cleverly title "David Lane is not a Pedophile and featuring a moronically lame "defense" against the charge) is certainly a propaganda specialist. But, sometimes "friends" that latch on to your account are actually watchers, trackers, and spies from the opposition so that could be forgiven. I've learned that from my own YouTube channel where Jews sign up as "friends" and "subscribers" simply to keep a watch on it.

The whole "honeypot" thing of featuring pretty girls also smelled funny to me. A bit too smart about the psychology of young men.

I loved the video content, though. If they are a legitimate organization and YouTube channel I give them my support. :thumbsup: It has to be the youth. But certainly you have to check these things out and watch them. I am pleased that they have now taken down the music video featuring White men picking up a White slut at a bar called "jizz in my pants," as well as the video featuring two White bumpkins having a conversation consisting mostly of "F--k." Strewing that sort of thing into fake "nationalist" channels is a suspiciously typical tactic! Their quick response (removing them) is either a troll pulling in his horns, or some kids who are able to straighten up and fly right.

Maponus
04-13-2009, 09:30 PM
The titles of their songs look like typical extremist shite to me, can't see this beating the Student BNP in the media savvy department.

Winston
04-13-2009, 09:33 PM
What has the student BNP done? I don't hear much about them.

Maponus
04-13-2009, 09:36 PM
Just waiting to see converted Anti-fa logos, their video shows a clear influence from the German neo-neo-nazi scene. And if the National Anarchists have their entryist way, I think this bunch will soon end up a joke. Hell, they are a joke.

If this is what my generation are going to have as nationalism, I see a long road of disillusionment ahead.

Maponus
04-13-2009, 09:41 PM
What has the student BNP done? I don't hear much about them.

They are just BNP for youngsters, they supply the BNP with most of it's music. Which unlike this talentless copy-cat rock, tries to fit in with British musical tastes, which tend towards folk and synthesizer pop (not that I like that kind of music).

Maponus
04-13-2009, 09:41 PM
Link.
http://student.bnp.org.uk/