Don Black: Federal Agent - Iran-Contra network

[Intellectual]

Don Black: Federal Agent - In 1985, he was involved with the Iran-Contra network.

In 1985, he was involved with the Iran-Contra network. He created a brigade which would engage in psychological warfare against the Sandinistas and aid the Contras in their insurgency.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x129784

That was after his KKK-fed team was caught in 1981 doing a Bay of Pigs operation against Dominica, again to install a non-white into power.

Don Black of the Klu Klux Klan was, in 1985, according to Wikipedia, a part of Iran-Contra and the Contras, a paid federal operation to aid non-whites to take over Nicaragua.

A few thousand whites actually think he's standing against the federal government, but most appear to know who Don Black of the KKK is, a former federal agent, very possibly still one.

Don Black and his tiny "Stormfront" web board, would seem to be a federal operation.

[Lord Nengwen]

Don Black and his tiny "Stormfront" web board, would seem to be a federal operation.

SF ain't tiny.

Also if SF is a fed-zog op meant to ensnare WNs why do the jews make it so hard to get on there??

For example it is blocked by AOL, one of the largest internet providers.

Doesn't add up.

[Intellectual]

The Iran-Contra operation employed hundreds, one of which was reported to be Don Black.

SF ain't tiny.


SF has gained 100 members over the last 5 years, if that. Check archives.org.


Also if SF is a fed-zog op meant to ensnare WNs why do the jews make it so hard to get on there??


Jews, as in Don Black? Or how Don Black disables anonymous sign ups? Perhaps they are the same thing for all intents and purposes.

Don Black prevents protected anonymous sign ups on his board. He wants the IP information. Why would that be?

Try making a Stormfront account with an anoymous IP such as Anonymouse.org. He's disabled it via the Admin panel. Be smart.



For example it is blocked by AOL, one of the largest internet providers.



How else to make something verboten than by saying Mommy and Daddy don't like it? How else to create legitimacy in the eyes of the fools?

Opposition forces have long used the seeming existence of oppostion to create validity. The AOL or false resistance doesn't create truth. It just means commercialism. AOL didn't want to be bothered it's a very commercial software entity.



Doesn't add up.

It does add up, right now your sum is -3.

You still have not brought good questions to the table about Iran-Contra and Don Black.

USA Today doesn't censor Stormfront, it publicizes it. What USA Today does do is censor any white who writes racialist commentary on the USA site, all the while giving Stormfront publicity. Something odd there.

[Crowley]

Jews, as in Don Black? Or how Don Black disables anonymous sign ups? Perhaps they are the same thing for all intents and purposes.



You know little about discussion forum culture if you don't realize why DB disables anonymous sign ups.

[Intellectual]

You know little about discussion forum culture if you don't realize why DB disables anonymous sign ups.

AdminCP > Options > DM-RBL Check on Registration, is an option not a necessary requirement for a forum.

Still, I'm amazed you accept the fact that Don Black worked for Iran-Contra, a fed operation.

[Crowley]

I look upon all you gossip hounds that float from forum to forum denouncing other forums and their management with a jaundiced eye.

[Intellectual]

I look upon all you gossip hounds that float from forum to forum denouncing other forums and their management with a jaundiced eye.

Examining the truth with intellectual rigor is what whites do.

Do you deny that Don Black was involved with Iran-Contra?

Every time the public finds out what Don Black was in the past, and possibly still present, they leave Stormfront and begin thinking on their own as racialists.

This kind of truth does irreparable damage to the confidence whites have about trusting a man, Don Black, who twice worked to put non-whites in power.

Once again, a low IQ Fed dupe, Don Black, shoots himself in the foot.

[Contra Mundum]

I don't know if he's a federal agent or not, but stormfront can make a positive impact regardless. Paranoia is a bigger threat to white nationalism than anything else.

[Intellectual]

I don't know if he's a federal agent or not, but stormfront can make a positive impact regardless. Paranoia is a bigger threat to white nationalism than anything else.

Iran-Contra was a very Federal globalist operation of the international sugar barons and their bankers.

Don Black and his Stormfront is about as deep into the globalist bankers as it can get.

The sad part is few whites have the guts to tell him off and expose the damage he has done to the white racialist cause.

[Lord Nengwen]

Stormfront isn't just Don Black though.

They have had on David Duke and Willis Carto, certainly not every Far Right Individual that has been on there is part of your ZOG entrapment fantasy, Intellectual??? :confused:

[littlewhitelies]

Maybe Intellectual is a fed/adl/opp type engaging in some sort of divide and conquer strategem by fueling online WN paranoia.

Lets see how far we can go with this shall we?

Can you provide evidence of your claims?

[Crowley]

Maybe Intellectual is a fed/adl/opp type engaging in some sort of divide and conquer strategem by fueling online WN paranoia.



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[Captain Marinesko]

Stormfront isn't just Don Black though.

They have had on David Duke and Willis Carto, certainly not every Far Right Individual that has been on there is part of your ZOG entrapment fantasy, Intellectual??? :confused:

David Duke is a con man, he would easily roll over and provide information if the feds pressed him for it.

[Intellectual]

It's documented in a book on the matter.

"In 1985 when Reagan was denied millitary support for the contras in Nicuraga Klansmen rallied to his side. Don Black announced that he had created a 120 man Klan Unit called "The Nathanian Beford Forrest Brigade" with the intention of aiding the contras. Black said the brigade would engage in psychological warfare in Nicuraga to foster anti-government seniment and would provde "a civi action unit to promote a stable economy" The Klan felt that they were acting with Regan's blessing because he had said in October that "traditional" for American volunteers to take such actions in other countries."

"The Fiery Cross" page 398


"The Fiery Cross"
By Wyn Craig Wade

http://books.google.com/books?id=6O_XYBMhNYAC&pg=PA397&lpg=PA397&dq=%22The+Fiery+Cross%22+page+398&source=bl&ots=fMd1mbLe2W&sig=awk3TV0jiVEX5GHykmnI52yq6uw&hl=en&ei=Wc3eSZrOA9yIsAbLsLnXCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

[Empress Cheesatine]

Iran-Contra was a very Federal globalist operation of the international sugar barons and their bankers.

How do you figure?

[banjo_billy]

Maybe Intellectual is a fed/adl/opp type engaging in some sort of divide and conquer strategem by fueling online WN paranoia.
Lets see how far we can go with this shall we?
Can you provide evidence of your claims?

Sometimes, evidence is found in the footprints and the survelliance cameras.

Invading an island with a boat load of drinking buddies and a couple of hunting rifles makes for a great background biography for a deep cover operation.

From what I have seen, most WN chat boards have their share of infilrators and subversives at the moderator level ... some more, some less so. The Jews have limitless resources for hiring paid disruptors whose full time occupation is chatting on the boards and disrupting any actual progress toward WN or patriotic goals. It is a very effective tool for stirring up dissentions and causing infighting and distrust among white folks.

One of the aphorisms of Zionism as stated by Hertzl is: "Jews shall lead all opposition against us." That is, Jews try to become leaders of anti-Jewish movements and organizations. Like magnets that attract their enemies, the Jews want to round up their opponents into more easily controlled groups which they lead. Like Judas goats, they pretend a sympathic solidarity but their goal is to lead white people and white organizations to destruction. In their limitless perfidy, they do the same with the colored peoples and their organizations as well.

Or, if not Jews then Communists and the Jew-wannabe-Junior-Mossad volunteers man the chat boards in their hundreds and thousands of subversives; and starting their own chat boards is not so difficult, either.

When you see the kinds of moderators that have been on StromFront over they years, you can see the pattern. Queers, Jews, Commies, white witches, lesbians, and assorted perverts along with a smattering of genuine white patriots, have all enjoyed various times in power at the moderator level. Turnover rate for Mods on StormFront seems to be directly proportional to how much damage they do to and complaints they receive from the members.

Moderators on StormFront can buy their way in with monetary donations. A big donation gets them limitless censorship powers. So, I don't believe much in the "idealistic" posturing of Don Black's StormFront operation. (His son recently won a public office in Florida... Kind of strange in a Jew-state like Florida for anyone whom the Chosenites don't like, getting enough votes for anything. Also, kind of strange the Don Black's house hasn't been burned down like the Jews did to Ernst Zundel and the HRI office building. And Don Black is never beat up like the Jews do to such worthies as the leader of Adelaide Institute or the Canadian Free speech movements. Not that he deserves it, but strange that the Jews never try.) Perhaps, it is because anti-Jewish threads on StormFront are heavily moderated and suppressed.

I have witnessed this pattern of subversive moderators over the years because I first logged in to StormFront a year or so after it first got started. (1993? too far back to remember the date. But I remember thinking it rather odd that the California newspapers were giving StormFront a lot of free advertizing by screaming in the headlines how terrible it was that patriots and Nazis and racists and white people were communicating on the internet. So, of course, after reading the newspaper, I immediately surfed over to StormFront and logged in to an account!)

When any meaningful discussion about Jews or Neocons begins on StormFront, it is soon locked or the poster is banned or put on moderation. And this pattern was repeated and is being repeated today.

There is no real disccussion or freedom of speech allowed on StormFront. It is geared toward dumbing down discussion about vital matters and weeding out anyone who does not have a sufficient milquetoast approach to the world's problems. Thus, the StormFronter's seem to enjoy a sort of equality of mediocrity among themselves, ready to welcome concerned citizens, outraged and betrayed countrymen and angry patriots into the soft, warm light of their communal acceptance of the way that our leaders have chosen for us to follow blissfully.

This is not to say that StormFront does not have its place in the internet media, but in the land of pixels and pixie dust, why believe what a computer says without a lot of cross-referencing and verification?

So, LittleWhiteLies, demanding all kinds of "proof" for such things is not really something that is attainable. And it is actually a trap in and of itself, since those who demand "proof" claim a false victory because such solid proof is not forthcoming. It is like trying to prove that atoms exist. Even the best scientists cannot prove that atoms exist by actually presenting you with an atom as proof. Since they cannot present you with an atom, does that mean that atoms do not exist? All a scientist can do is demonstrate certain footprints that atoms leave in a cloud chamber, or certain characteristics that something called electrons exhibit when near the vacinity of the alleged atom, or results of chemical reactions that prove by their reproducible consistancy the "theory" that atoms exist. But, no, the scientists cannot give you an atom as proof. But with enough atomic footprints and fingerprints and chemical signatures, you can be convinced that, yes indeed, atoms do exist. ... er ... that is, if you don't bother about the interrelationship between energy and matter, etc.

By looking at the footprints and fingerprints in the chat rooms, seeing the recurring patterns, and weighing the evidence that is presented in the various discussions both for and against, gives the clues. After all, are we dealing here with actual people or with the mental neurons and ghostly outlines of real people as recorded and displayed upon a computer screen? So, even without knowing Don Black or his minions of Moderators personally, you can see the workings of their minds by the thoughts that they express and get to know them in this way, like the paths that atoms leave in a cloud chamber. You can't see the atom but you know that it was there because you can see the path of its footprints in the ether.

So, I think this is a good disccussion thread. If back-biting and unmitigated malice can be avoided and just the facts and observations discussed, the mystery of StormFront can be deduced.

My own opinion is that StormFront is a deep cover operation. Do I have any proof? No, just recurring patterns, footprints and fingerprints gathered over the years. And these fingerprints are always the same ... with a lot of big nose prints along side of them.

[Empress Cheesatine]

Don Black of the Klu Klux Klan was, in 1985, according to Wikipedia, a part of Iran-Contra and the Contras, a paid federal operation to aid non-whites to take over Nicaragua.

I see nothing of the sort there. Thus far, you have only offered a non-sourced leftist website as evidence.

[Empress Cheesatine]

SF has gained 100 members over the last 5 years, if that. Check archives.org.

Vague source, uncheckable.

[Intellectual]

I see nothing of the sort there. Thus far, you have only offered a non-sourced leftist website as evidence.

Oxford University Press
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The Fiery Cross
The Ku Klux Klan in America
Wyn Craig Wade
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banjo_billy's post was very accurate.

[Mark]

Why should this even matter in the long run?

[Intellectual]

Why should this even matter in the long run?

Honesty benefits humanity.

[Empress Cheesatine]

Oxford University Press
http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/HistoryAmerican/19001945/?ci=0195123573&view=usa


The Fiery Cross
The Ku Klux Klan in America
Wyn Craig Wade
bookshot Add to Cart
ISBN13: 9780195123579ISBN10: 0195123573 paper, 528 pages

banjo_billy's post was very accurate.

Yes, you posted the extract above but it didn't say anything about him being a paid agent with the US govt.

[Empress Cheesatine]

Why should this even matter in the long run?

Apparently letting Soviets and 3rd world Marxists get a foothold in the western hemisphere is the proper pro-white thing to do.

:confused:

[Intellectual]

Don Black: Federal Agent - In 1985, he was involved with the Iran-Contra network.

That was after his KKK-fed team was caught in 1981 doing a Bay of Pigs operation against Dominica, again to install a non-white into power.

Don Black of the Klu Klux Klan was, in 1985, according to Wikipedia, a part of Iran-Contra and the Contras, a paid federal operation to aid non-whites to take over Nicaragua.

A few thousand whites actually think he's standing against the federal government, but most appear to know who Don Black of the KKK is, a former federal agent, very possibly still one.

Don Black and his tiny "Stormfront" web board, would seem to be a federal operation.


The post says "federal agent" not "paid agent". It also says "paid federal operation". A person can be an effective agent of an entity without the payments being made public.

It implies that being involved with the Federal Contras has the aspect of being involved with federal source funding. The Contras were a Federal operation.

[Mark]

Honesty benefits humanity.Perhaps, but the moment you buy into the Guiding Light, a now-canceled soap opera, after decades of its end-run on IRL--much less whatever replaces it--you lose everything. Fuck Hollyhoax. Fuck Judea. Long live right white men and women.

It's our natural predisposition. We've only just temporarily forgotten about it.

[Intellectual]

Apparently letting Soviets and 3rd world Marxists get a foothold in the western hemisphere is the proper pro-white thing to do.

:confused:

The welfare of Amerindians is not of concern to an alleged white nationalist.

[Mark]

The welfare of Amerindians is not of concern to an alleged white nationalist.The key word here is "alleged." Hobbyism or not, none of us live in a vacuum.

In the long run, practicality will be a major player.

Meanwhile, it's up to us to decide what is and what is not practical.

[Apocales]

It doesn't get more boring or useless then Stormfront.

[Mark]

It doesn't get more boring or useless then Stormfront.True, it's drudgery. But the point, here, is the smear. This thread is a joke, and I'm pissed at myself for having posted in it. Three times now.

[Apocales]

True, it's drudgery. But the point, here, is the smear. This thread is a joke, and I'm pissed at myself for having posted in it. Three times now.

:)

I still remember in the same week of Kelso writing in a rainbow format how big the SF membership was, but out of a whooping 60,000+ members only 3 showed up to Bush's Ranch for a SF protest lol.

[Intellectual]

But the point, here, is the smear.


The point is media accountability. That extends to white media as well.

Don Black has been trolling Stormfront with JJT and a host of other neocons for far too long and now the result is tragic.

The victim here is the white community, not Stormfront.

[Empress Cheesatine]

The welfare of Amerindians is not of concern to an alleged white nationalist.

Its not about the welfare of Indians, it was about the spread of Marxism in this hemisphere. If you haven't noticed, it's presence on campus has done a good amount of damage. Anti-racist, pro-integrationist flicks that began pouring out of Hollywood in the 50s were from Marxist film makers.

[Empress Cheesatine]

The post says "federal agent" not "paid agent". It also says "paid federal operation". A person can be an effective agent of an entity without the payments being made public.

It implies that being involved with the Federal Contras has the aspect of being involved with federal source funding. The Contras were a Federal operation.

That's about as retarded as saying that anyone involved on a volunteer basis with a FEMA operation after a hurricane is a covert federal agent for ZOG. This is just retarded. Again, your pinko website doesn't source itself.

[Intellectual]

Its not about the welfare of Indians, it was about the spread of Marxism in this hemisphere. If you haven't noticed, it's presence on campus has done a good amount of damage. Anti-racist, pro-integrationist flicks that began pouring out of Hollywood in the 50s were from Marxist film makers.

Iran Contra was caring about the political system the Amerindians have. It's not a white issue.

Don Black cannot be justified on being involved with Oliver North's Iran Contra federal operation scandal. It reeks of corruption of the worst kind.

[Mark]

The point is media accountability."Media accountability," are you kidding me? That extends to white media as well.You want to extend media's failure to white media?

Don Black has been trolling Stormfront with JJT and a host of other neocons for far too long and now the result is tragic. This is a perfect example of extending media's failure to white media. I could give a flying fuck what Don Black does. I do care about what you and I do here now.

The victim here is the white community, not Stormfront.Whatever. I feel so violated.

[Intellectual]

That's about as retarded as saying that anyone involved on a volunteer basis with a FEMA operation after a hurricane is a covert federal agent for ZOG. This is just retarded.

You are comparing Iran-Contra's involvement in a majority Amerindian region with FEMA's helping a majority white region.

Doesn't race mean anything to you?

[Mark]

Doesn't race mean anything to you?Well done. Call into question the concept of race. You're on a roll, Stormfronter.

[Lord Nengwen]

David Duke is a con man, he would easily roll over and provide information if the feds pressed him for it.

Better a Pro-White con man then a corrupt race-traitor Clinton or even worse... an Obama!

[Intellectual]

Well done. Call into question the concept of race.


When someone tries to put the welfare of Amerindians above that of whites in white nations, then yes, it should be brought into question.

Iran Contra was not a WN cause, it cannot be portrayed as being such.

Allegedly fighting communism in some third world nation doesn't constitute white racialism.

[Captain Marinesko]

Better a Pro-White con man then a corrupt race-traitor Clinton or even worse... an Obama!

Wow...that is literally the stupidest thing I have heard on this board, that is that didn't come from Cheesypie or Mentious. Damn...sometimes something is just so idiotic, you just don't know how to respond.

[Lord Nengwen]

Wow...that is literally the stupidest thing I have heard on this board, that is that didn't come from Cheesypie or Mentious. Damn...sometimes something is just so idiotic, you just don't know how to respond.

You can put it in your sig if you want!


http://us.altermedia.info/images/duke_keynote.jpg

Duke in 2012! :)

(liberals and marxist vermin will NEVER get me to betray my Race!)

[NSM88]

Yeah, and Hal Turner is an FBI agent, right ?
When Hal Turner met Don Black you could see Don wasn't happy about it.
You see, the enemy is trying to find a way to destroy us, and using every tactic possible.
:deadhorse:

[American-Patriot]

You can put it in your sig if you want!


http://us.altermedia.info/images/duke_keynote.jpg

Duke in 2012! :)

(liberals and marxist vermin will NEVER get me to betray my Race!)

Do you really think David Duke is going to run in 2012?

He spends most of his time living in Europe. I really don't think he really cares about America, except what he can get Americans to donate to him. The times I have heard him talk, his love and passion seem to be in Europe and not America.

Also, I get the impression that David Duke likes teaching political science to the younger generation. He is very smart, and I am sure is teaching the next generation of White Nationalist political leaders how they can achieve power in Europe and America. He knows that with his past baggage that chances are he will never get elected, but he can take his knowledge and teach it to the next generation who is starting to come of age now who doesn't have the past to haunt them.

He may still have his dream of being President as he not to long ago gave his pretend state of the union address acting as if he was President. Some dreams die hard. Some dreams never really die. He is smart and he does have a following of people who still have that dream of him being President and who write his name in every year. They support him and give him encouragement and I would even guess they inspire him to keep fighting even during the times he feels like giving up. We Liberals have our dreams too and people who we think would be a great President who we support and try to encourage and inspire in the important work that they do.

From my view point it would be an interesting contest between David Duke and a Liberal/Progressive who is not afraid to call a spade a spade. Yes, it would be a very interesting match up.

[Intellectual]

From my view point it would be an interesting contest between David Duke and a Liberal/Progressive who is not afraid to call a spade a spade. Yes, it would be a very interesting match up.

Race is the most important issue of this century to the people.

Don Black's involvement in Iran-Contra goes contrary to a commitment to race.

[Ambrosio Spinola]

The staff at the Phora would kindly ask Intellectual to get in touch with his l33t contacts and procure that us, the staff, receive the promissed ZOG bucks for operating this disinformation site. We do not understand why Don always gets paid first.

[banjo_billy]

Race is the most important issue of this century to the people.

Don Black's involvement in Iran-Contra goes contrary to a commitment to race.

Actually, race is a weak-point in the White Man's battle. Yes, it is important but even more important are the things that are destroyers of our race.

Race is one of the first things shouted about and advertized by the fake WN trolls, the subversive anti-white leftists and the Jews who camouflage themselves as patriotic white people on these chat boards. Although race is a vital issue, it is also used as a "white-out" eraser for covering up the other vital issues such as the actual causes and persons responsible for the genocide of white people.

By screaming "race, race, race" and nothing else, they slyly avoid any discussions of the actual destroyers of our race.

You seem to identify with such a bogus view of racial politics. In actual fact, besides the Jews themselves, the danger of Communism, fake Judeo-Christian theosophies, and Socialist agendas are a very dangerous and aggressive enemy of all white people. While appreciation and promotion of the white race is vital, so is opposition to the enemies both physical and philosophical who threaten us.

So, although I look at StormFront and Don Black with caution, I do not agree with your one-sided and snow-blind view of our racial situation. The crushing of our enemy, Communism, in all of its manifestations is a strategically important duty of all white people. But Communism is just one of several enemies. So, it is not enough to be pro-white as so many racialists believe, but also to be anti-Enemy-Of-Whites. It is not enough to be a white racialist or a white nationalist or even a white separatist, but one must also be opposed to any and all who are our enemies.

We cannot survive merely by feeling good about ourselves or being proud of our heritage; we must also beat the hell out of those who would destroy us. Being white is nice, but being white AND victorious is better. So, White Man, know that your sly and subtle enemies wish to destroy you; but you must identify who they are and destroy them first. That is life on planet Earth. Love it or leave it.

[Empress Cheesatine]

It's hard to believe that a pro-white could not see the harm and danger of the spread of Marxism in the world. Haven't we enough evidence already?

[Captain Marinesko]

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So, although I look at StormFront and Don Black with caution, I do not agree with your one-sided and snow-blind view of our racial situation. The crushing of our enemy, Communism, in all of its manifestations is a strategically important duty of all white people. .


You do realize that the "crushing" of "Communism" had serious negative impacts on millions of "white people", leading in plunging population growth, massive drug use, millions of early deaths, sex slavery, etc., right?

[Gummo]

You do realize that the "crushing" of "Communism" had serious negative impacts on millions of "white people", leading in plunging population growth, massive drug use, millions of early deaths, sex slavery, etc., right?

You mean to incarcerate the nation is a good alternative?

[Lord Nengwen]

You do realize that the "crushing" of "Communism" had serious negative impacts on millions of "white people", leading in plunging population growth, massive drug use, millions of early deaths, sex slavery, etc., right?

Frankfurt School Marxism in The West has argueably done more harm then the Collapse of the Eastern Bloc and their brands of Marxism.

[Captain Marinesko]

Frankfurt School Marxism in The West has argueably done more harm then the Collapse of the Eastern Bloc and their brands of Marxism.


Really? Ok, let's compare some statistics on premature deaths, ethnic war, negative birth rates, etc. between the US and Soviet Union, for example.

[Intellectual]

Actually, race is a weak-point in the White Man's battle. Yes, it is important but even more important are the things that are destroyers of our race.

Race is one of the first things shouted about and advertized by the fake WN trolls, the subversive anti-white leftists and the Jews who camouflage themselves as patriotic white people on these chat boards. Although race is a vital issue, it is also used as a "white-out" eraser for covering up the other vital issues such as the actual causes and persons responsible for the genocide of white people.



Leftism is christianity and communism, they both give up the WN race to a Jewish race written ideology.

[Intellectual]

So, although I look at StormFront and Don Black with caution, I do not agree with your one-sided and snow-blind view of our racial situation. The crushing of our enemy, Communism, in all of its manifestations is a strategically important duty of all white people. But Communism is just one of several enemies.


The fake WN will say that the Nicaraguans wanting to self enslave themselves with communism is the enemy because it distracts from the Jew in our white lands.

[Intellectual]

By screaming "race, race, race" and nothing else, they slyly avoid any discussions of the actual destroyers of our race.

You seem to identify with such a bogus view of racial politics. In actual fact, besides the Jews themselves, the danger of Communism,


You seem to have forgotten that christianity and communism were both written by the the jew race. Abraham and Marx were both racial jews first and ideologues second. Communism and christianity are written examples of Judaism, of the jewish racial ideology.

Race created Marx. Race created Abraham. Race created the political doctrines of communism and christianity to enslave the non-jew races.

The American communist party was led by a Jew. We stop the Jews, we stop communism.

[NSM88]

Karl Marx wasn't born as Karl Marx.
Theodore Herlz wasn't born as Theodore Herlz.
Martin Luther King wasn't born as Martin Luther King.
Joseph Stalin wasn't born as Joseph Stalin.

There is a common factor, the fake names, masterminded by guess who !
Communism, socialism, marxism, multiculturalism, all masterminded by the same group.
The fake names all sound like the names in the country they are, in Germany those names sound German, in England english, in Amerika American, in The Netherlands Dutch.
This group has full freedom, can even change their names and nobody else can do the same.
Why do our people give only this group this advantage ?
Because they submit themselves to this group, because this group in ultra dominant and arrogant.
If you give'm one finger they take the whole world (NWO, Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove and the rest of their evil 'inventions')

[Captain Marinesko]

You seem to have forgotten that christianity and communism were both written by the the jew race. Abraham and Marx were both racial jews first and ideologues second. Communism and christianity are written examples of Judaism, of the jewish racial ideology.

Race created Marx. Race created Abraham. Race created the political doctrines of communism and christianity to enslave the non-jew races.

The American communist party was led by a Jew. We stop the Jews, we stop communism.


Please demonstrate the link between Judaism and Marxism. Use Marx's writings as proof.

And which leader of the American Communist party(CPUSA) was a Jew?

[Intellectual]

Julius Hammer

[Intellectual]

Please demonstrate the link between Judaism and Marxism.

And which leader of the American Communist party(CPUSA) was a Jew?
List of Jewish American activists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_activists

Jay Lovestone, AFL-CIO cold warrior; earlier, chairman of Communist Party USA
Charles Ruthenberg, early leader of the Communist Party USA

[Captain Marinesko]

List of Jewish American activists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_activists

Jay Lovestone, AFL-CIO cold warrior; earlier, chairman of Communist Party USA
Charles Ruthenberg, early leader of the Communist Party USA

The most important leaders of the American Communist Party were Earl Browder, William Z. Foster, and Gus Hall. None of them were Jews.

Please demonstrate a link between Jewishness and Communism.

[Lord Nengwen]

Really? Ok, let's compare some statistics on premature deaths, ethnic war, negative birth rates, etc. between the US and Soviet Union, for example.

Frankfurt School Marxism is demonstrably worse.

Read this book, that is all one needs:


http://www.integraltradition.com/catalog/images/buchanan-death.JPG

Short Description This book surveys a dying culture - the West - and considers what the future has in store for it. It will be of interest to those who oppose non-European immigration into the West and who are concerned about Western decline. Buchanan is one of the leading paleo-conservatives in the United States and supports the traditionalist movement within Roman Catholicism.

Synopsis The Death of the West is an unflinching look at the increasing decline in Western culture and power.
The West is dying. Collapsing birth rates in Europe and the U. S., coupled with population explosions in Africa, Asia and Latin America are set to cause cataclysmic shifts in world power, as unchecked immigration swamps and polarizes every Western society and nation.
The Death of the West details how a civilization, culture, and moral order are passing away and foresees a new world order that has terrifying implications for our freedom, our faith, and the preeminence of American democracy.

http://www.integraltradition.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=50



There is an entire chapter devoted to Frankfurt School Marxism in this book.

If you require more links I can probably provide you with works from Kevin Macdonald and William Lind.

[Lord Nengwen]

The most important leaders of the American Communist Party were Earl Browder, William Z. Foster, and Gus Hall. None of them were Jews.

Please demonstrate a link between Jewishness and Communism.

ne of the Common Sense issues mentioned a full-page newspaper article written by Winston Churchill called “Zionism versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People.” The article had originally appeared in the Illustrated Sunday Herald on February 8, 1920. Churchill had maintained that the world’s Jews were being torn between an allegiance to Communism on the one hand and Zionism on the other. Churchill hoped the Jews would adopt Zionism as an alternative to what he called “diabolical” and “sinister” Bolshevism. In his well-written article, contemporary with the early years of the Russian Revolution, Churchill described Communism as a “sinister confederacy” of “International Jews” who “have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of this enormous empire.”1 The article shocked me enough that I had to check its authenticity. It turned out to be genuine. In fact, I found some Jewish references to it bewailing the fact that Churchill’s article gave fodder to the anti-Semites of the world. The following is an excerpt from his amazing article.
In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where the Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing…and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews…2
As an important historical figure as Churchill was, he was still only one voice. I rationalized that he could be wrong about the nature of the Russian Revolution. One of the Common Sense articles I read referred to a series of explosive documents (complete with file numbers) from the National Archives of the United States. I wrote to my local Congressman, F. Edward Hebert, and asked if his office could obtain copies of the files for me. A couple of weeks later, on returning home from school, I found waiting for me a large manila envelope from the Congressman.
Certified by the seal of the United States of America, the documents were from the National Archives. They concerned intelligence reports from foreign governments and extensive reports from our chief intelligence officers in Russia during the time of the Russian Civil War in the early days of the Communist revolution. The early 1920s were long before the establishment of the OSS and the CIA. The U.S. Army ran our international intelligence work at that time. One of our military intelligence officers in Russia during its revolutionary period was Captain Montgomery Schuyler. He sent back regular reports to the chief of staff of U.S. Army Intelligence, who then relayed them to the Secretary of War and the President of the United States.
“There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews…”
Winston S. Churchill
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http://www2.davidduke.com/images/zionism.jpg
Reading through the lengthy reports gave me a glimpse into a historical period of which few Americans are aware. They reported horrible massacres of thousands of Russian aristocrats and intelligentsia, murdered simply because they could provide effective leadership in opposition to the Communists. Many Americans are at least somewhat aware of Stalin’s murder of over 20 million. However, many millions also died in the early days of Bolshevism under Lenin and Trotsky, for it was these men who initiated the first mass killings and the gulags.
The reports also stated, without equivocation, the Jewish nature of the revolution. In one of Schuyler’s official reports, declassified in 1958, almost 50 years after he wrote and dispatched them, he states:1
It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States, but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greaziest type…
— Captain Schuyler, American army intelligence officer in Russia during the revolution. (in his official report)
http://www2.davidduke.com/images/schuyler_report.jpg
In quoting the graphic language of this official report, my intention is not to offend; but Schuyler’s report says what it says, whether we like it or not. In another report, written four months later, Captain Schuyler goes on to quote the evidence of Robert Wilton, who was then the chief Russian correspondent of the authoritative . Wilton later went on to pen a number of best-selling books on the revolution, including the widely acclaimed Russia’s Agony and Last Days of the Romanovs.2 On June 9, 1919, Schuyler cites Wilton as follows:
A table made up in 1918, by Robert Wilton, corespondent of the London Times in Russia, shows at that time there were 384 commissars including 2 Negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22 Armenians and more than 300 Jews. Of the latter number 264 had come from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial Government.3
There was, of course, no reason to impugn the reporting of the Times or of Captain Schuyler. I couldn’t believe my eyes as I scanned the papers dispersed across the plastic tablecloth on my dining-room table. I wondered how it could possibly be true that the “Russian Revolution” had only 13 ethnic Russians out of the 384 members of its top governing body. Churchill’s description of “gripping the Russian people by the hair of their heads” came to life in the pages I received from our own National Archives.
Once I started checking out the leads I would glean from my reading, the National Archives kept spitting out the most incredible documents. Not only did our chief intelligence officer write to the president of the United States about the Jewish nature of Communism, so did our U.S. ambassador to Russia, David R. Francis. In a January 1918 cable to our government, he reported:
The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are trying to start a worldwide social revolution.
- David Francis, American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the Revolution1
The National Archives also sent me copies from its files of Communications from Scotland Yard and British Intelligence. The directorate of British Intelligence sent to America and other nations a lengthy report dated July 16, 1919, on Bolshevism abroad. It was called “A Monthly Review of the Progress of Revolutionary Movements Abroad.” This lengthy report lists the Communist movements in the major nations of the world. The first sentence in the first paragraph on the first page of this British government report claims that Jews control international Communism.2
Years later, as a student at Louisiana State University, I took a course entirely devoted to the Russian Revolution. Neither my professor in his lectures, nor my textbook (The Soviet Achievement)3 made any mention of the Jewish-Russian conflict and the Jewish domination of the Communist Party.
The Jewish role in the Communist revolution was, however, mentioned in many major Jewish publications such as the Jewish Encyclopedia and the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia. It astounded me to find them actually boasting about the pivotal role of Jews in the Russian Revolution. They even pointed out the effort of the Communist Jews to disguise the Jewish role - a successful effort - for most Gentiles in America and Europe are still unaware of it.
“There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international movement controlled by Jews.”
- The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
http://www2.davidduke.com/images/gsa_document.jpg
The Communist movement and ideology played an important part in Jewish life, particularly in the 1920s, 1930s and during and after World War II…. Individual Jews played an important role in the early stages of Bolshevism and the Soviet Regime…. The great attraction of Communism among Russian, and later also, Western Jewry, emerged only with the establishment of the Soviet Regime in Russia…
Many Jews the world over therefore regarded the Soviet concept of the solution to the “Jewish question” as an intrinsically positive approach…. Communism became widespread in virtually all Jewish communities. In some countries Jews became the leading element in the legal and illegal Communist parties and in some cases were even instructed by the Communist international to change their Jewish-sounding names and pose as non-Jews, in order not to confirm right wing propaganda that presented Communism an alien, Jewish conspiracy.1

http://www2.davidduke.com/images/stalin.jpg
Trotsky’s book, Stalin, written in exile, attempted to show that Stalin had played only an insignificant role in the early days of the Communist takeover. Trotsky attempted to illustrate this point by reproducing a postcard widely circulated in the months following the revolution. The postcard depicted the six leaders of the revolution. Shown are Lenin (who was at least one-quarter Jewish, spoke Yiddish in his home, and was married to a Jewess), Trotsky (real Jewish name: Lev Bronstein), Zinoviev (real Jewish name: Hirsch Apfelbaum), Lunacharsky (a Gentile), Kamenov (real Jewish name: Rosenfeld), and Sverdlov (Jewish).2 Not only does the postcard show the Jewish domination of the revolution; it also illustrates the fact the Jewish Communist leaders shown had changed their names just as reported in the Encyclopedia Judaica.
Although the fact of Lenin’s Jewish ancestry was kept quiet for many years, Jewish writers are now taking note of it. David Shub, author of Lenin: A Biography, stated in a letter to the Russian émigré paper Novyi Zhurnal3 that Lenin’s mother was at least Jewish on her father’s side and probably so on her mother’s side as well.4
In addition, a French Jewish periodical, Review de Fonds Social Juif,5 reported that a Soviet novelist, Marietta Shaguinian, was prevented by Soviet censorship from publishing evidence of Lenin’s Jewish ancestry. A number of Jewish publications in recent years have disclosed Lenin’s Jewish heritage, including the Jewish Chronicle.6
The Cheka, or secret police, had a Jew, Moses Uritzky, as its first chief, and most of the other subsequent leaders were also Jews, including Sverdlov and Genrikh Yagoda (which is Russian for “Yehuda” - “the Jew”) who presided over the pogroms that killed tens of millions. The Soviet propaganda minister during the war was a Jew, Ilya Ehrenburg, who notoriously distinguished himself by his Second World War exhortations of Soviet troops to rape and murder the women and children of Germany.7 Anatol Goldberg quoted Ehrenburg in his book, Ilya Ehrenburg as saying, “…the Germans are not human beings…nothing gives us so much joy as German corpses.”8
http://www2.davidduke.com/images/jewish_chronicle.jpg
http://www2.davidduke.com/images/lenin.jpg


http://www.davidduke.com/general/my-awakening-chapter-15-the-jewish-question_331.html/3

[Captain Marinesko]

Old conspiracy theories and idiocy. The majority of Jews were in the Jewish Bund and the Social Revolutionary party in 1917. The Bolsheviks had the smallest number of Jews.

Moreover, calling Lenin Jewish is simply idiotic. Lenin's background is of at least five nationalities.


I asked for a link between Jewishness and Communism. That is, proof that a person of Jewish descent is somehow drawn to supporting Communism. Afterall, the vast majority of Communists, and Communist leaders, were not Jewish.

If you feel that you cannot provide evidence to support such a link, do not blame me. It's your fault for adopting non-scientific bullshit conspiracy theories.

[Lord Nengwen]

More on the link between communism and jewishness here:


“Stalin’s Willing Executioners”?

By Kevin MacDonald (http://www.vdare.com/macdonald/051105_stalin.htm)



(http://www.vdare.com/macdonald/index.htm)

[Crowley]

One of the first laws promulgated after the October Revolution rendered antisemitism a crime punishable by death.

[Captain Marinesko]

One of the first laws promulgated after the October Revolution rendered antisemitism a crime punishable by death.

Proving- absolutely nothing.

[Lord Nengwen]

One of the first laws promulgated after the October Revolution rendered antisemitism a crime punishable by death.

Yes this clearly shows that communism was a jewish movement because they wanted to silence all critics of their jewish-commie movement.

That was a very good post bardamu.


:posrep::thumbsup:

^^^^^ have a greenie.

[Intellectual]

Why did Don Black and Iran Contra fight communism not in the US, but in Nicaragua?


Jews of the US communist party.


Jay Lovestone, chairman of Communist Party USA

Born Jacob Liebstein to a Jewish family in Lithuania, he emigrated with his parents in 1907 to New York's Lower East Side.


Why didn't Don Black fight communism in the US?

Why did Don Black work with the Jews on Iran Contra, why did he not fight communism in the USA? Why only fighting communism in non-white country of Nicaragua?

Why didn't Don Black fight communism in the US?

[banjo_billy]

You do realize that the "crushing" of "Communism" had serious negative impacts on millions of "white people", leading in plunging population growth, massive drug use, millions of early deaths, sex slavery, etc., right?

At it again, Captain Danglewood? May I remind the Readers of your philosophy, quote: "It's not lying if you don't give a shit," replied Captain Marinesko when accused of telling lies.

[banjo_billy]

Leftism is christianity and communism, they both give up the WN race to a Jewish race written ideology.

In other words, you are agreeing with me. You have named four enemies of the white race. Crush those four enemies, and the white race is preserved. But pound yourself on the chest saying, "I am a white man" while letting those four enemies work their evil, and the white race is destroyed.

[banjo_billy]

You seem to have forgotten that christianity and communism were both written by the the jew race. Abraham and Marx were both racial jews first and ideologues second. Communism and christianity are written examples of Judaism, of the jewish racial ideology.

Race created Marx. Race created Abraham. Race created the political doctrines of communism and christianity to enslave the non-jew races.

The American communist party was led by a Jew. We stop the Jews, we stop communism.

Actually, when we stop the Jew, we will stop 90% of our problems.

As regards your racial fixation, open both eyes and look around. You are equating race to too many things and the equation does not compute.

[banjo_billy]

The most important leaders of the American Communist Party were Earl Browder, William Z. Foster, and Gus Hall. None of them were Jews.

Please demonstrate a link between Jewishness and Communism.

"Gus Hall" was born Arvo Gustav Halburg, a Jewish surname.

Earl Browder and William Z. Foster were also among the communist founders of the ACLU. Earl Browder in addition to looking Jewish had a common-law wife who was a full-Jew named Kitty Harris. And he turned over his spying network to another Jew.

Whenever you scratch the surface of anything like Communism, you find more and more Jews.

As usual, Captain Danglewood, you mix fact with fantasy. Part of the fantasy is taking a list of hundreds of Communist founding members who are all Jewish except three or four of them and then pointing at one or two non-Jews and saying, "See! So-and-so aren't Jewish so that proves that Communism was not Jewish."

[banjo_billy]

Old conspiracy theories and idiocy. The majority of Jews were in the Jewish Bund and the Social Revolutionary party in 1917. The Bolsheviks had the smallest number of Jews.

Moreover, calling Lenin Jewish is simply idiotic. Lenin's background is of at least five nationalities.


I asked for a link between Jewishness and Communism. That is, proof that a person of Jewish descent is somehow drawn to supporting Communism. Afterall, the vast majority of Communists, and Communist leaders, were not Jewish.

If you feel that you cannot provide evidence to support such a link, do not blame me. It's your fault for adopting non-scientific bullshit conspiracy theories.

¤§¤=======¤§¤=======¤§¤WARNING TO READERS¤§¤=======¤§¤=======¤§¤
The Jew-Commie-Criminal Debating Method is here being used. Beware
of such methods as: Deny Everything, Admit Nothing. Demand Limitless
Proof and when valid Proof is offered claim to be unconvinced and
Demand More Proof. Answer a Question with a Question. Use a Red Herring
and Change the Subject. Tell Lies. When the argument is lost, attack
the credibility of the opponent. Become enraged with name-calling.
When all else fails, accuse him of being insane or mentally defective.
After all of these techniques fail, start all over again with the
same arguments in an attempt to tire and exasperate the opponent.
These Jew-Commie-Criminal Methods are designed to Create Chaos and
Confusion and to defeat Truth. These are evil methods used by Jews,
Devils and Communists. Beware. Beware.
¤§¤=======¤§¤=======¤§¤WARNING TO READERS¤§¤=======¤§¤=======¤§¤

[banjo_billy]

Why did Don Black and Iran Contra fight communism not in the US, but in Nicaragua?

Why not ask Don Black? :deadhorse:

[Gummo]

The most folks on SF are so stupid, they'll still write there.

[Intellectual]

The most folks on SF are so stupid, they'll still write there.

If one studies the posts and posters on SF it can be seen that those posters who advocate a democratic and civil approach to increase the white cause are banned.

Now this is similar to the Iran Contra ethic, of extremist violence as a solution rather than intelligent propaganda. It reflects a lack of intellectual confidence, which Don Black, a person involved with Iran Contra after his Fed prison term, must have.

[Lord Nengwen]

Actually, when we stop the Jew, we will stop 90% of our problems.
Yes!

Leader Hitler :hitler: managed to bring Germany back from the Weimar Republic and bring Germany from the depths of jewish depravity to being a very good place to live by discriminating against the jews!

Once one stops the jews, literally everything else gets better!

If one goes back further in European history they will find that right after jews were EXPULSED east-ward (into what is today called Poland) that almost immediately afterward The West had the Renaissance because the 'culture distortion' of the jews was temporarily halted!

[Captain Marinesko]

"Gus Hall" was born Arvo Gustav Halburg, a Jewish surname.

Tard, Halberg was Finnish, not Jewish. I guess according to you, Nazi race theorist Alfred Rosenburg was Jewish.


Earl Browder and William Z. Foster were also among the communist founders of the ACLU. Earl Browder in addition to looking Jewish had a common-law wife who was a full-Jew named Kitty Harris. And he turned over his spying network to another Jew.

He "looks" Jewish? What the fuck does that mean? There are Jews that look like Nordic Europeans, and ones that look like black Africans? And what does his wife have to do with it?


Whenever you scratch the surface of anything like Communism, you find more and more Jews.

And you always find a hell of a lot more gentiles- but you ignore all of them.


As usual, Captain Danglewood, you mix fact with fantasy. Part of the fantasy is taking a list of hundreds of Communist founding members who are all Jewish except three or four of them and then pointing at one or two non-Jews and saying, "See! So-and-so aren't Jewish so that proves that Communism was not Jewish."

What list, you babbling redneck moron? All the verified list of Communist leaders show a clear majority of gentiles.

Moreover, you still have no evidence to show that Jews are any more predisposed to Communism than say Latvians, Chinese, Russians, or whatever.

Give me a logical explanation as to why we should see some genetic connection when talking about Jews in Communism, thus equating them with Communism, while not equating Russians, Czechs, Yugoslavs, or Vietnamese with Communism.

[Captain Marinesko]

Yes!

Leader Hitler :hitler: managed to bring Germany back from the Weimar Republic and bring Germany from the depths of jewish depravity to being a very good place to live by discriminating against the jews!

Once one stops the jews, literally everything else gets better!

If one goes back further in European history they will find that right after jews were EXPULSED east-ward (into what is today called Poland) that almost immediately afterward The West had the Renaissance because the 'culture distortion' of the jews was temporarily halted!

Whether things "got better" is a matter of debate, but either way this is an example of the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy, a rather egregious example. Of course it makes perfect sense to you, because you are retarded.


Damn, where is Hitler and his T4 program when it is most needed?

[Lord Nengwen]

Damn, where is Hitler and his T4 program when it is most needed?
http://www.frikipedia.es/images/e/e9/MechaHitler.JPG

http://biglizards.net/Graphics/ForegroundPix/PakistanProHitlerSign.jpg


:)

[Intellectual]

Moreover, you still have no evidence to show that Jews are any more predisposed to Communism than say Latvians, Chinese, Russians, or whatever.





Jews were the leaders of the US Communist Party.

Don Black didn't fight Communism in the USA, but in Nicaragua with Iran Contra. That's helping the Jews gain control of the USA.

[Captain Marinesko]

Jews were the leaders of the US Communist Party.



Wrong, tard.

[Petr]

"Gus Hall" was born Arvo Gustav Halburg, a Jewish surname.
"Gus Hall" was of Finnish immigrant origin - and "Halberg", not Halburg:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Hall#Background


Petr

[littlewhitelies]

Sometimes, evidence is found in the footprints and the survelliance cameras.

Invading an island with a boat load of drinking buddies and a couple of hunting rifles makes for a great background biography for a deep cover operation.

From what I have seen, most WN chat boards have their share of infilrators and subversives at the moderator level ... some more, some less so. The Jews have limitless resources for hiring paid disruptors whose full time occupation is chatting on the boards and disrupting any actual progress toward WN or patriotic goals. It is a very effective tool for stirring up dissentions and causing infighting and distrust among white folks.

One of the aphorisms of Zionism as stated by Hertzl is: "Jews shall lead all opposition against us." That is, Jews try to become leaders of anti-Jewish movements and organizations. Like magnets that attract their enemies, the Jews want to round up their opponents into more easily controlled groups which they lead. Like Judas goats, they pretend a sympathic solidarity but their goal is to lead white people and white organizations to destruction. In their limitless perfidy, they do the same with the colored peoples and their organizations as well.

Or, if not Jews then Communists and the Jew-wannabe-Junior-Mossad volunteers man the chat boards in their hundreds and thousands of subversives; and starting their own chat boards is not so difficult, either.

When you see the kinds of moderators that have been on StromFront over they years, you can see the pattern. Queers, Jews, Commies, white witches, lesbians, and assorted perverts along with a smattering of genuine white patriots, have all enjoyed various times in power at the moderator level. Turnover rate for Mods on StormFront seems to be directly proportional to how much damage they do to and complaints they receive from the members.

Moderators on StormFront can buy their way in with monetary donations. A big donation gets them limitless censorship powers. So, I don't believe much in the "idealistic" posturing of Don Black's StormFront operation. (His son recently won a public office in Florida... Kind of strange in a Jew-state like Florida for anyone whom the Chosenites don't like, getting enough votes for anything. Also, kind of strange the Don Black's house hasn't been burned down like the Jews did to Ernst Zundel and the HRI office building. And Don Black is never beat up like the Jews do to such worthies as the leader of Adelaide Institute or the Canadian Free speech movements. Not that he deserves it, but strange that the Jews never try.) Perhaps, it is because anti-Jewish threads on StormFront are heavily moderated and suppressed.

I have witnessed this pattern of subversive moderators over the years because I first logged in to StormFront a year or so after it first got started. (1993? too far back to remember the date. But I remember thinking it rather odd that the California newspapers were giving StormFront a lot of free advertizing by screaming in the headlines how terrible it was that patriots and Nazis and racists and white people were communicating on the internet. So, of course, after reading the newspaper, I immediately surfed over to StormFront and logged in to an account!)

When any meaningful discussion about Jews or Neocons begins on StormFront, it is soon locked or the poster is banned or put on moderation. And this pattern was repeated and is being repeated today.

There is no real disccussion or freedom of speech allowed on StormFront. It is geared toward dumbing down discussion about vital matters and weeding out anyone who does not have a sufficient milquetoast approach to the world's problems. Thus, the StormFronter's seem to enjoy a sort of equality of mediocrity among themselves, ready to welcome concerned citizens, outraged and betrayed countrymen and angry patriots into the soft, warm light of their communal acceptance of the way that our leaders have chosen for us to follow blissfully.

This is not to say that StormFront does not have its place in the internet media, but in the land of pixels and pixie dust, why believe what a computer says without a lot of cross-referencing and verification?

So, LittleWhiteLies, demanding all kinds of "proof" for such things is not really something that is attainable. And it is actually a trap in and of itself, since those who demand "proof" claim a false victory because such solid proof is not forthcoming. It is like trying to prove that atoms exist. Even the best scientists cannot prove that atoms exist by actually presenting you with an atom as proof. Since they cannot present you with an atom, does that mean that atoms do not exist? All a scientist can do is demonstrate certain footprints that atoms leave in a cloud chamber, or certain characteristics that something called electrons exhibit when near the vacinity of the alleged atom, or results of chemical reactions that prove by their reproducible consistancy the "theory" that atoms exist. But, no, the scientists cannot give you an atom as proof. But with enough atomic footprints and fingerprints and chemical signatures, you can be convinced that, yes indeed, atoms do exist. ... er ... that is, if you don't bother about the interrelationship between energy and matter, etc.

By looking at the footprints and fingerprints in the chat rooms, seeing the recurring patterns, and weighing the evidence that is presented in the various discussions both for and against, gives the clues. After all, are we dealing here with actual people or with the mental neurons and ghostly outlines of real people as recorded and displayed upon a computer screen? So, even without knowing Don Black or his minions of Moderators personally, you can see the workings of their minds by the thoughts that they express and get to know them in this way, like the paths that atoms leave in a cloud chamber. You can't see the atom but you know that it was there because you can see the path of its footprints in the ether.

So, I think this is a good disccussion thread. If back-biting and unmitigated malice can be avoided and just the facts and observations discussed, the mystery of StormFront can be deduced.

My own opinion is that StormFront is a deep cover operation. Do I have any proof? No, just recurring patterns, footprints and fingerprints gathered over the years. And these fingerprints are always the same ... with a lot of big nose prints along side of them.

My post was more of a rhetorical statement than anything else. Paranoia is WNism's worst enemy, as so many act on it without thinking, making connections where none actually exist.

[Intellectual]

My post was more of a rhetorical statement than anything else. Paranoia is WNism's worst enemy, as so many act on it without thinking, making connections where none actually exist.


I hate to say it but it's documented in a book on the matter.

"In 1985 when Reagan was denied millitary support for the contras in Nicuraga Klansmen rallied to his side. Don Black announced that he had created a 120 man Klan Unit called "The Nathanian Beford Forrest Brigade" with the intention of aiding the contras. Black said the brigade would engage in psychological warfare in Nicuraga to foster anti-government seniment and would provde "a civi action unit to promote a stable economy" The Klan felt that they were acting with Regan's blessing because he had said in October that "traditional" for American volunteers to take such actions in other countries."

"The Fiery Cross" page 398


"The Fiery Cross"
By Wyn Craig Wade

http://books.google.com/books?id=6O_XYBMhNYAC&pg=PA398&lpg=PA398&dq=Black+said+the+brigade+would+engage+in+psychological+warfare&source=bl&ots=fMd1jeMi7O&sig=QBvSAm-jxo7lhGV1KcioETRO9zQ&hl=en&ei=S7TaSeuMN57utQPWzNi0Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1


According to that sourced book, Don Black was involved with Iran Contra in 1985, after he was the "victim" of the Feds in prison. Help us understand the reasoning.

[Intellectual]

"Gus Hall" was of Finnish immigrant origin - and "Halberg", not Halburg:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Hall#Background


Petr
Gus Hall (Jew name, Arvo Mike Halberg), son of Lithuanian- Jewish parents.


"Marching to Zog"
By Gyeorgos C. Hatonn

http://books.google.com/books?id=Kc3NAs2Dz18C&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=Arvo+Mike+Halberg&source=bl&ots=q3Gv33-hyH&sig=bASFZpyRGKY53sU_NVtyGLsTetY&hl=en&ei=sdTlSdnZJ4vCsQPUs8mtDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9

[Lord Nengwen]

"Marching to Zog"
By Gyeorgos C. Hatonn

http://books.google.com/books?id=Kc3NAs2Dz18C&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=Arvo+Mike+Halberg&source=bl&ots=q3Gv33-hyH&sig=bASFZpyRGKY53sU_NVtyGLsTetY&hl=en&ei=sdTlSdnZJ4vCsQPUs8mtDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9
Laugh out Loud! :naughty:

Seriously you are using Hatonn as a source???

Not even David Icke quotes these beings!!! Listen I firmly believe in alot of weird paranormal stuff (Reptiillians, Hollow Earth, UFOs...) but it (generally) shouldn't be used as a serious link man!



http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/hatton.jpg
No less disturbing are the copious pronouncements of Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn, a feisty ET who has not hesitated to finger the “Zionists” and “Khazars” as the arch-villains in the earth’s present crises.8 Hatonn, reputedly a nine-and-half-foot-tall reptilian ET, even persuaded his human supporters to reprint the infamous Protocols of the Elders of Zion in their newspaper the Phoenix Liberator. (See Note following)
Note from Dee: I don't know who asked me to do this particular meditation. Nobody I knew had a computer back in 1992, so perhaps the name came from a book. I also don't know why it was important to check on Commander Hatonn. Strangely enough, the man I saw strongly resembles the man behind this ETs left shoulder. 6-24-92 - MEDITATION - Q. I would like information on Commander Hatonn, The Phoenix Liberator.
A. I saw Babaji come from the right with quite a few other people, both male and female. They kept coming closer and closer until they were eyeball to eyeball with me. I felt kind of uncomfortable to have so many people come when I only called one.
I repeated my question and saw a regular looking man, wearing a brown army-like uniform with bars on the left chest like a normal army uniform. He was carrying a big satchel in his right hand. He was almost bald with a thin moustache. He didn't look very pleased.
From: http://www.sfgate.com/offbeat/buzzcuts/hatton.html
Hatton, of the Intergalactic Fleet of Ashtar Command, purportedly keeps an inordinant eye on our global affairs from his orbiting ship. Not your typical "channeled entity," his messages arrived via a special military channel that was received by 60-ish grandmother Doris Ecker and then made available in George Green's right-wing Phoenix Liberator publication. The alleged Hatton material includes conspiratorial rants about the New World Order with an anti-Semitic flavor, such as claims that the Holocaust was a hoax.

http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/hatonn.htm

[vector]

I Just wanted to add this little element to the discussion since we're talking about SF Around here.
Some months ago i had engaged in a very serious debate about the so called brainwashing of the jews, many core members participated yet it was "deleted": here is proof.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2vkyxyg.jpg
and let's not mention how many topics have never managed to get trough the fillet. their "opposition forum" is more than just a joke; i say they act just like their imaginary super jews.

[Intellectual]

Seriously you are using Hatonn as a source???


Glad you got the joke.

It's about the same level as using Wikipedia as a serious source.
When previous posters us Wikipedia to talk about "who is Jewish" and even "Yahweh". Then it's fitting to invoke Hatonn and Icke.

After all "yahweh" is on wikipedia.

Thank you for making my point.

[Intellectual]

"Gus Hall" was of Finnish immigrant origin - and "Halberg", not Halburg:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gus_Hall#Background


Petr

Wikipedia is a joke of a source concerning who is a crypto Jew.

[Intellectual]

The facts stand.

"In 1985 when Reagan was denied millitary support for the contras in Nicuraga Klansmen rallied to his side. Don Black announced that he had created a 120 man Klan Unit called "The Nathanian Beford Forrest Brigade" with the intention of aiding the contras. Black said the brigade would engage in psychological warfare in Nicuraga to foster anti-government seniment and would provde "a civi action unit to promote a stable economy" The Klan felt that they were acting with Regan's blessing because he had said in October that "traditional" for American volunteers to take such actions in other countries."

"The Fiery Cross" page 398


"The Fiery Cross"
By Wyn Craig Wade

http://books.google.com/books?id=6O_XYBMhNYAC&pg=PA398&lpg=PA398&dq=Black+said+the+brigade+would+engage+in+psychological+warfare&source=bl&ots=fMd1jeMi7O&sig=QBvSAm-jxo7lhGV1KcioETRO9zQ&hl=en&ei=S7TaSeuMN57utQPWzNi0Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

[banjo_billy]

I Just wanted to add this little element to the discussion since we're talking about SF Around here.
Some months ago i had engaged in a very serious debate about the so called brainwashing of the jews, many core members participated yet it was "deleted": here is proof.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2vkyxyg.jpg
and let's not mention how many topics have never managed to get trough the fillet. their "opposition forum" is more than just a joke; i say they act just like their imaginary super jews.

The world's problems cannot be solved if it is forbidden to discuss the problems, the causes and cures. Those who oppose freedom of speech are really your enemies, no matter how much they claim to be your friends.

[Intellectual]

I Just wanted to add this little element to the discussion since we're talking about SF Around here.
Some months ago i had engaged in a very serious debate about the so called brainwashing of the jews, many core members participated yet it was "deleted": here is proof.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2vkyxyg.jpg
and let's not mention how many topics have never managed to get trough the fillet. their "opposition forum" is more than just a joke; i say they act just like their imaginary super jews.

Don Black is a stupid fool who did Operation Red Dog, he's dumb. Then dumb people go work for the Feds for Iran-Contra, which Don apparently did according to the book.

Dumb people are a liability to our white cause, those that think Jews are smarter and thus the leaders of whites.

Dumb people ban white discussion or control it because they are so stupid they work with the Feds on Iran-Contra and with Stormfront banning white discussion. Dumb begets dumb.

Recently Don Black had one of his moderators ban the word ZOG, which was a sign.

Don Black thinks that banning white discussion is a good because white thinking is a threat to his dumb Federal Iran-Contra mind.

Only the dumbest of whites would think the white mind is a threat to whites. The fact is the white mind is the best in the world. Stormfront and Don Black are COINTELPRO to restrict and control white racial thinking, aiming it towards violence and jewish obedience, worship.

[Westminster]

The thing that is discouraging about Stormfront is all the censorship, but that is systemic in our society. So, Stormfront isn't unique.

It's the p.c. card deck; play one, hold another. Same old, same old.

Nowadays, it seems as bad as ever. The issue appears to be, our society has lost its standards and tried to replace them, with ones that don't work. You will find this wherever you go.

[Lord Nengwen]

The thing that is discouraging about Stormfront is all the censorship, but that is systemic in our society.
That is why I stopped posting there.

A mod didn't want me to utilize the term 'ZOG' which I though was rather odd for a forum that has a social group dedicated to the 'revolutionary fervor' of Dr. Pierce (the popularizer of the term) and any number of threads praising Revolutionary variants of National Socialism.

But it is the term 'ZOG' that is wrong??? :confused: Whatever.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=6672385&postcount=3

[banjo_billy]

That is why I stopped posting there.

A mod didn't want me to utilize the term 'ZOG' which I though was rather odd for a forum that has a social group dedicated to the 'revolutionary fervor' of Dr. Pierce (the popularizer of the term) and any number of threads praising Revolutionary variants of National Socialism.

But it is the term 'ZOG' that is wrong??? :confused: Whatever.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=6672385&postcount=3

According to the Jews' Talmud, anything that casts aspersions upon or which criticizes "God's Holy Chosen People" is the same as insulting or criticizing God, Himself. And so, since "ZOG" has negative connotations, it cannot be allowed to be associated with those wonderful greasy Hebes who believe that the people of the world should be kissing their feet in thankfulness that God has given the world to the Jews to steal our money and to destroy our nations. And how can they swindle and betray us if we are laughing at them or throwing rocks or hanging them?

And so, Stormfart, is merely upholding the teachings of the Jews and protecting their holy asses from recriminations. It's called "censorship" but the Jews call it "righteousness". And on StormFart among the rabbis who moderate the boards, it is practiced with the piety of the crocodile.

[Westminster]

I think Stormfront is over-moderated/incompetently-moderated. In that regard, it is not unique. I don't know about any conspiracies, but I do know that the moderation seems like it is just too much.

We do seem to live in a period of time when over-control/wacky-control is rampant. Just look at P.C: it's o.k. to wear a thong ANYWHERE, but you can't wear a white pride t-shirt :confused:

Look at The Bailouts: Citibank is too big to fail, but The White Race isn't :(

[Expert]

the Nerd-Tyrants of Stormfront are basicly like the idiots and jerks that are online all the time on the video game servers. And they are about as revelant.

You don't know how much you could ever hate someone til you play an online video game and have a 'conversation' with them.

[Westminster]

the Nerd-Tyrants of Stormfront are basicly like the idiots and jerks that are online all the time on the video game servers. And they are about as revelant.

You don't know how much you could ever hate someone til you play an online video game and have a 'conversation' with them.

Sounds about right. So, they do have an ulterior motive, but it isn't necessarily about advancing Zionism or some other ism. It appears to be about advancing their own Vanity. Surely a sign of a decadent society.

http://www.minorlooneytunes.com/pictures/finster003.jpg

[Intellectual]

Sounds about right. So, they do have an ulterior motive, but it isn't necessarily about advancing Zionism or some other ism. It appears to be about advancing their own Vanity. Surely a sign of a decadent society.



Advancing one's own name is vanity. Vanity is the method by which Zionism controls. It always has been since 370 AD in Europe.

To do WN work without a moniker, without vanity, is to truly do the work of God. the Pythagorean God that is.

[Lord Nengwen]

It always has been since 370 AD in Europe.

What happened in 370 AD???

Conversion to judeo-christianity??? (bear in mind I am myself a Wotanist and do fully understand Alien Semitic Religions)

To do WN work without a moniker, without vanity, is to truly do the work of God. the Pythagorean God that is.

Why do you have user-name Intellectual then???

Why not use Kane?? :confused::rofl:

Anyhow with ZOG ramping up warnings about 'Right Wing Extremists' (there are threads about this on this forum) it is not advisble to make it easier for ZOG to track oneself.

[Intellectual]

What happened in 370 AD???

Read.


Why do you have user-name Intellectual then???


Posting without a moniker means. in practical effect, to not rack up many posts with "reputation" as "reputation" means vanity. You are trying to get attention.

You use emoticons instead of words. The emoticon generation. Next language will devolve into pictograms. Yet they think they are smart.



Anyhow with ZOG ramping up warnings about 'Right Wing Extremists' (there are threads about this on this forum) it is not advisble to make it easier for ZOG to track oneself.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about, you're a kid who posts about judicial.biz and Limonov the National Bolshevik homosexual prostitute of Berezovsky.

You seem like a twenty something old kid of above average intelligence who was recruited by MI6. There are other "Lord _____'s" in the movement who behave in similar radical manners, supporting socialist workers seems to be their key tenet. One wonders if they being mixed race led to their early socialism and MI6 empire recruitment.

Usually dark skinned mulatto homos living alone are the prime supsects.

We WN are vastly more intelligent than you guys.

[Lord Nengwen]

Basicly the response one expected from someone so obsessed with 'Don Black' and 'Operation Red Dog' (dude that is almost 30 years ago!)

[Westminster]

Stormfront is o.k. Don Black is o.k. That Muadib guy though :rofl:

[Intellectual]

Basicly the response one expected from someone so obsessed with 'Don Black' and 'Operation Red Dog' (dude that is almost 30 years ago!)

It doesn't matter how many years ago. Moral character, that of collaborating with the Feds on Iran-Contra to get out of prison early is not acceptable.

Don worked with the Feds on Iran-Contra, after he got out of prison. That is just not a WN ethic.

He's not a moral or trustworthy man.