The Confederate flag in Europe

[Rogerius Josephus Boscovich]

Im just breaking the inactivity on this part of the forum.

http://torcida.org/foto2008/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/duje-bonacic.jpg

http://www.hnkhajduk.com/galerija/albums/2008-09/07_haj-sla-23-08-2008/haj-sla_0135.JPG

http://i38.tinypic.com/nqz3ep.jpg

http://www.index.hr/images2/torcida_VG-V600.jpg

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3009/2475104035_f9f94a6839.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/2791113416_3cc2689938.jpg

Americans should stop playing baseball and stuff, and start playing (European) football.

[Ricardo Vega]

Who are these 'White Boys'? Are they a football club?

[Rogerius Josephus Boscovich]

Who are these 'White Boys'? Are they a football club?

Its just something Torcida, the supporters of Hajduk Split football club made. Since the football club players wear white shirts, and its something of a club colour. Although UEFA is pissed at them, since they consider it to be racist.

[Ricardo Vega]

Its just something Torcida, the supporters of Hajduk Split football club made. Since the football club players wear white shirts, and its something of a club colour. Although UEFA is pissed at them, since they consider it to be racist.

Judging by the colors of the flags and writing on the banners, I wouldn't be surprised that Hajduk supporters may have something to do with it. I wonder what Dinamo Zagreb supporters the Bad Blue Boys and other hooligans think of this?

[Rogerius Josephus Boscovich]

Judging by the colors of the flags and writing on the banners, I wouldn't be surprised that Hajduk supporters may have something to do with it. I wonder what Dinamo Zagreb supporters the Bad Blue Boys and other hooligans think of this?

Both firms are known for their far-right, racist leanings.

BBB on the other hand frequently displays the Vatican flag, they also did it in Belfast against Linfield to provoke Brits.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/Badblueboys3.jpg

[Jake Featherston]

Back in 1990, I was thumbing threw an issue of Newsweek, and there was a story from Berlin, about the German re-unification. There was a photo showing a sea of German flags...and one Confederate flag. A serious WTF? moment.

[Dreadnought]

It's certainly better looking than the US Union flag.

I'm surprised it would be flown in Europe. I don't know about them, but in the UK the image of the American South is the skanger, "white nigger" image with overtones of religious fanaticism.

[Lord Nengwen]

I don't know about them, but in the UK the image of the American South is the skanger, "white nigger" image with overtones of religious fanaticism.

I don't know if you have ever been there but there is nothing niggerish about the behavior of Authentic White Southerners. They are well known for good manners and many carry an Aristocratic Bearing (a left over from being Masters of the Plantation).

There is however a new sort of whiggerish-ness though that has come into vogue, the Toby Keith types, but that is just a commercial image.

[Basil Fawlty]

It's regularly flown in Co. Cork because it is the "Rebel County".

[Cadavre Exquis]

Bulgarian football club Levski Sofia fans are also quite fond of the Confederate flag.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2018/2165019833_864ac9e6ff_o.jpg

http://hooligans.hit.bg/PHOTOS9.jpg

http://kalin.bogatzevski.com/pictures/croatia/levski-aftermatch-poljud-split.jpg

http://hooligans.hit.bg/hooligans%20photos.jpg

[Susan]

Whatever negative feelings the Confederate flag instills in people is almost completely the result of an anti White bias from the jewmedia. It would be a source of White pride but Whites have been so beaten down over the past sixty years for having any sense of White pride, few even attempt to present it outwardly (White pride, that is). When I see a pickup truck with a Confederate flag on it, I know a proud White man or woman who is unafraid, is driving. I usually try and give him or her a thumbs up if I can catch their eye.

White people, for instance, here in the metro Atlanta area, would find it difficult to outwardly express any pro White sentiment and still keep a job or business. the initial phase of being ostracized would soon fade, but few are willing to risk what it would take to get through this period where things would return to normal. I don't doubt for a minute that any pro White businessman or woman who promotes himself or herself as being pro White would eventually find his or her business thriving, but the initial negative media attention would be difficult.

The problem, as I see it, is we've got to muster our courage and be willing to wait out the initial difficult phase for being pro White publicly and then the chips will all fall into place. So far, we haven't found too many Whites willing to do this. I have my American flag hanging upside down on my house outside in front. I bought a Confederate flag and will be hanging it outside in front as well. I only wish I lived on a busy thoroughfare instead of a dead end where only a few will see it. But those who come down here, and there are actually quite a number of cars that come down here, will know just what kind of person lives here. I've always said it's the best nigger repellent there is.

The sign of a Confederate flag signifies to me that someone has a backbone. Maybe if you see it in Europe, it's just another way to tell the multis to go "f" themselves--that we're White people.

[Felix the Cat]

St. Andrew's Cross. Was this a deliberate association? Were many Southerners of Scottish ancestry?

[Jake Featherston]

St. Andrew's Cross. Was this a deliberate association? Were many Southerners of Scottish ancestry?

Yes, and yes.

[Lord Nengwen]

St. Andrew's Cross. Was this a deliberate association? Were many Southerners of Scottish ancestry?

Yes.

The term 'Anglo-Celtic' was pretty popular during some periods of Southern History.

[Jake Featherston]

The term 'Anglo-Celtic' was pretty popular during some periods of Southern History.

Some revisionist historians like to claim that, but I'm not certain that's actually true. Its become very fashionable (ever since "Braveheart," I suspect), to perceive the War of Northern Aggression as one between Celtic agrarians and Germanic industrialists. And while there is a wee element of truth to that analysis, I think most of its proponents are basing it more on wouldn't-it-be-neat, rather than this-is-actually-so.

[Lord Nengwen]

Some revisionist historians like to claim that, but I'm not certain that's actually true. Its become very fashionable (ever since "Braveheart," I suspect), to perceive the War of Northern Aggression as one between Celtic agrarians and Germanic industrialists. And while there is a wee element of truth to that analysis, I think most of its proponents are basing it more on wouldn't-it-be-neat, rather than this-is-actually-so.

I can accept that. I am not a Southerner or Celtic so I don't really have dog in the fight so to speak however I am sort of interested in History.

[Ace Rimmer]

We are using it because of appealing desing, because of the same colours on the flag and on the team uniform, because we are down South in Croatia and consider our self as rebels towards north and the capital.
You can say that flag is rooted in our scene and somewhat culture because much of American TV shows like "North & South" were quite popular here.

[Niccolo and Donkey]

We are using it because of appealing desing, because of the same colours on the flag and on the team uniform, because we are down South in Croatia and consider our self as rebels towards north and the capital.
You can say that flag is rooted in our scene and somewhat culture because much of American TV shows like "North & South" were quite popular here.

To add to Grom's explanation:

The use of "white" as in "white boys" specifically denotes the team's main uniform colour: white. White is automatically associated with this team while blue is associated with the rival team from the nation's capital.

[Ace Rimmer]

To add to Grom's explanation:

The use of "white" as in "white boys" specifically denotes the team's main uniform colour: white. White is automatically associated with this team while blue is associated with the rival team from the nation's capital.

When saying the colours of the flag are like those on uniform I was referring to 2nd kit which dominates among fans insignia.
http://wwww.slobodnadalmacija.hr/Portals/0/images/2008-05-18/Sport/Hajduk01.jpg

[Niccolo and Donkey]

This is the one I proudly wear (except in Zagreb):

http://i5.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/07/30/c12d_1.JPG

[Ace Rimmer]

This is the one I proudly wear (except in Zagreb):

http://i5.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/07/30/c12d_1.JPG

That's some nice fake sample you've got there.How's distribution in Canada going for you? Hajduk copyright enforcment isn't much of a hassle there I presume?

[Contra Mundum]

As a descendant of Confederate veterans, I am loving this. I think it's a beautiful flag that represents virtue, honor and bravery.

[WillieBrennan]

I wear these two shirts.

http://www.dixieoutfittersbranson.com/catalog/4662.jpg


http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u306/rhughe13/dixie3.jpg?t=1239741317

A few years ago I was standing line at McDonalds and some old guy wearing a suit behind me said that he didn't like my shirt.

I told him that he needed a history lesson.:rofl:

[Niccolo and Donkey]

I wear these two shirts.

http://www.dixieoutfittersbranson.com/catalog/4662.jpg


http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u306/rhughe13/dixie3.jpg?t=1239741317

A few years ago I was standing line at McDonalds and some old guy wearing a suit behind me said that he didn't like my shirt.

I told him that he needed a history lesson.:rofl:

Was he a northerner or a southerner?

[WillieBrennan]

Well it was up here in Portland, OR...lol

Plenty of streets and towns around here named for Yankees. Grant's Pass, Lincoln City, Sherman Street etc...

I think most of the people that came out here were sympathetic to the Union.

[Ricardo Vega]

@ Ace and Guido, thanks for your explainations it now makes all sense to me. But how could anyone also explain this Southern, even Klan fetish amongst these Serbian hooligans?

Link. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_MS6LNimDU)

[Ace Rimmer]

@ Ace and Guido, thanks for your explainations it now makes all sense to me. But how could anyone also explain this Southern, even Klan fetish amongst these Serbian hooligans?

Link. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_MS6LNimDU)

It's just to provoke reaction and get in the news, everybody does it.You can't seek logic among football fans.

[Ace Rimmer]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/torcidaorg/3584259309/sizes/o/

[Thorvald Eriksson]

I'm sure there's places in Europe that see the Confederate flag more than the South does these days. Well, that is outside of the Dixie Outfitters areas.

[Ponerologist]

St. Andrew's Cross. Was this a deliberate association? Were many Southerners of Scottish ancestry?

Here's the first part of Born Fighting: How the Scots-Irish Shaped America, which is based on his book of the same name:

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It's well worth watching.

[Sheza]

Big deal. Pantera, Slayer, Nashville Pussy and Alabama Thunderpussy all posed with the flag or used it for design work in the past.

You can go to so many punk/metal/alt clothes and accessory shops in Camden and find the flag on sale there.

[Jake Featherston]

Alabama Thunderpussy?

:hm:

[Felix the Cat]

Re. St. Andrew's Cross

The cross was also the basis for the Spanish Hapsburg flag that once flew over large part of the South. But this traces its origin to the former state of Burgundy rather than Scotland. Both had St. Andrew as patrons.

[Sheza]

Alabama Thunderpussy?

:hm:

Here you go.

"Motor Ready" by Alabama Thunderpussy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUvkIuxq3OM

I love getting drunk to this song.

[calvin]

I love getting drunk to this song

Yeah, yeah, that's great mate! Can I have ten Regal a can of Cherry Fanta, and did your dad ever get these Sunlight Bites back in?

[Ken]

I believe I've spotted the battle flag of Dixie in Europe on this very forum!


http://www.thephora.net/forum/customavatars/avatar614_14.gif


Cheers to Mackie :thumbsup:

[Mackie]

I believe I've spotted the battle flag of Dixie in Europe on this very forum!


http://www.thephora.net/forum/customavatars/avatar614_14.gif


Cheers to Mackie :thumbsup:
hah :D
ive got a bunch of flags of my walls.

...we are a member of ridiculous failing union which is bleeding us dry (taxes, for one thing) and we cant seem to be able to get rid of it. these days I think the flag is somewhat apt to that end.