Best NHL Fights

[Nikolai]

Post all of your favorite NHL fights!

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2 nig nogs :rofl:
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This fight wins the Most Funniest Fight award:

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This one win the Worst Fight Award: :rofl:

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[Warka]

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[Warka]

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[Empress Cheesatine]

Colorado and Detroit had a nasty rivalry for a while, starting with the Kris Draper's jaw smashed into the boards in Denver by Claude Lemieux. YouTube has a lot of vids of these guys fighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7DlAjrhm9s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHNE7rIPZzM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXXw9EFh0oU

This one has hilarious commentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eDzkp76Zac

[Petr]

Once again Nikolai, this is not exactly the sort of thread that one would expect a pious Eastern Orthodox poster (who otherwise posts about ascetic saints) to put out...

(We still remember your "Skinhead fighting techniques" contribution.)


Per

[Nikolai]

Once again Nikolai, this is not exactly the sort of thread that one would expect a pious Eastern Orthodox poster (who otherwise posts about ascetic saints) to put out...

(We still remember your "Skinhead fighting techniques" contribution.)


Per

What? This makes no sense. Orthodox aren't allowed to watch Hockey now?

They aren't trying to seriously hurt each other, it is all apart of the game.

[Warka]

Once again Nikolai, this is not exactly the sort of thread that one would expect a pious Eastern Orthodox poster (who otherwise posts about ascetic saints) to put out...

(We still remember your "Skinhead fighting techniques" contribution.)


Per

:rofl:

You're going to burn in Hell for enjoying sport, Nikolai. Repent now!

[New Scientist]

From the bench the fights are annoying, both watching and doing. Not one fight i or anybody else had in a hockey game improved the play following it. They play a good game in europe without all that nonsense.

Its also highly annoying when you are trying to structure a game properly with your best skills. Fights totally destroy the gameflow.

Fights puts the other team on the moral high ground. You then have a decision ...to carry the shame through the game one your players is an asshole, or to take responsbility that you own that players behaviour, and add another level of agression.

At higher levels and leagues of the game this is obviously not an issue, everybody is a similiar level, strength and mindset. At lower levels where most hockey is played, there are big disparities in skill levels, and approach. A team that likes to rough and fight can make the game not worth playing.

[Lud]

How could you make this thread without any Hextall?


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[Mike Jahn]

Quebec vs. Montreal 1984 Playoffs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veX55rLYAgQ

:box:

[Thorvald Eriksson]

What's a fight thread without Link Gaetz included? He was so dreamy back in the day.:link: :munch:

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[Mike Jahn]

John Kordic vs. Kimble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLPW7HQxhqE

Kordic vs. Jay Miller

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOzG4QZI41Y

Kordic vs. Dave Brown

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MycROr1697c

:box:

[Mike Jahn]

Troy Crowder vs. Craig Coxe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJKcQzie9mw&feature=related

:box:

[New Scientist]

Not one great player in any of those fights i notice.

[Warka]

Not one great player in any of those fights i notice.

What???

Probert will always be remembered as the NHL heavyweight champion, in 16 NHL seasons he fought 285 NHL fights with a record of 176-50-59 and all coaches and enforcers considered him the toughest and most feared fighter in the NHL.

I don't know how it is in Europe, but you've got to realize that until recently, fighting was as much a part of North American hockey as goaltending is. Back in the day, a match without a fight or two dozen was a huge disappointment. Not real hockey, in other words.

[Warka]

Enforcer is an unofficial role in ice hockey. The term is sometimes used synonymously with "fighter", "tough guy" or "goon".

An enforcer's job is to deter and respond to dirty or violent play by the opposition. When such play occurs, the enforcer is expected to respond aggressively, by fighting or checking the offender. Enforcers are expected to react particularly harshly to violence against star players or goalies.

Originally a game played by the upper-class, violence has been a part of ice hockey since at least the early 1900s. According to Hockey: A People's History, in 1904 alone, four players were killed during hockey games from the frequent brawls and violent stickwork.

More modern examples of violence include brawls, fan involvement, physical abuse of officials, and deliberately injuring opponents. Violent actions, such as kicking, hitting from behind, and prohibited stickwork, are penalized with suspensions or fines. Fighting, or fisticuffs, is also penalized but is considered by many hockey enthusiasts, particularly in North America, to be quite distinct from stick-swinging or other violent acts. They regard fighting as an entrenched, acceptable and important part of the game.

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[New Scientist]

What???



I don't know how it is in Europe, but you've got to realize that until recently, fighting was as much a part of North American hockey as goaltending is. Back in the day, a match without a fight or two dozen was a huge disappointment. Not real hockey, in other words.

They dont bother with all that nonsense in europe. You have to shove each other of the puck due to having sticks and skating fast in a confined area.
Aside from from that european players dont have a difficult time grasping that there are rules and penalites. They concentrate on the enjoyment of being skilled players, and scoring goals, hence so many europeans make up the NHL.

I know what you are thinking. Sprinklehopper is a repressed gay hockey player.. Well he is not. I wasnt even thinking about it, till you brought it up. :(

[Warka]

I know what you are thinking. Sprinklehopper is a repressed gay hockey player.. Well he is not. I wasnt even thinking about it, till you brought it up. :(

I'm not thinking that at all. As explained above, violence was and always has been very much a part of hockey here. The fighting has traditionally been allowed and even encouraged.

[Mike Jahn]

Brad May vs. Warren Rychel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBAY07pqrZ4

:box:

[Mike Jahn]

Gord Donnelly vs. Willi Plett and Jay Miller

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTQ0Q8oVeis

:box:

[Niccolo and Donkey]

Not one great player in any of those fights i notice.

Some of the best hockey players were guys who never feared a good scrap: Tiger Williams had great numbers to go along with many 300 penalty minute seasons.

Guys like John Tonelli or Butch Goring of the New York Islanders never feared a good fight.

Gordie Howe, Clark Gillies, Terry O'Reilly - all excellent players who loved a good scrap.

[Mike Jahn]

Some of the best hockey players were guys who never feared a good scrap: Tiger Williams had great numbers to go along with many 300 penalty minute seasons.

Guys like John Tonelli or Butch Goring of the New York Islanders never feared a good fight.

Gordie Howe, Clark Gillies, Terry O'Reilly - all excellent players who loved a good scrap.

And Rick Tocchet who once scored 48 goals in a season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8MMSUznXMc

[Niccolo and Donkey]

Terry O'Reilly of the Boston Bruins and Mel Bridgman of the Philadelphia Flyers. Both guys threw up good numbers and never feared a good scrap. This is from the late 1970s:

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[New Scientist]

I'm not thinking that at all. As explained above, violence was and always has been very much a part of hockey here. The fighting has traditionally been allowed and even encouraged.

I wont hear a word more of these ridiculous accusations, and would like to assure you i was never, and will never be a repressed gay hockey player. :confused:

Hockey is a game of amazing flow. There is great elegance in the players even when they are knocking other people out the way. The slightest mistake ruins a figure skaters routine, where as hockey gets better when people are shoving each other around.

[New Scientist]

Some of the best hockey players were guys who never feared a good scrap: Tiger Williams had great numbers to go along with many 300 penalty minute seasons.

Guys like John Tonelli or Butch Goring of the New York Islanders never feared a good fight.

Gordie Howe, Clark Gillies, Terry O'Reilly - all excellent players who loved a good scrap.

They are all old timers. How many of todays best skilled players are like that ?None, as there is too much demands on a skilled player to stay that way. If they start fighting they end up getting sucked into the degenerate aspect of the game. The fighting evolved as a degenerate way to beat another teams spirit, when it was one small town against another, and the usual tribal rivalries. Its understandable in that context. It looks out of place and totally contrived in a WWF manner when they have fights now.

[Lud]

Hockey is a game of amazing flow. There is great elegance in the players even when they are knocking other people out the way. The slightest mistake ruins a figure skaters routine, where as hockey gets better when people are shoving each other around.

Your premise is incorrect. Many great hockey players here have been physical, one semi-recent example being Tim Kerr, although great defensive players are always physical (the list there is near inexhaustible).

Granted this is different than Europe. Hockey in North America has always been a more physical game. In Europe, generally, the focus is more on speed and finesse. This may be because Europeans prefer the Olympic size rink while the official NHL rink is smaller. Its a chicken-egg issue to me though. Most Europeans who come to play in the NHL conform to the European tradition- faster, more finesse.

The speed vs. physicality issue is really a question of overall team strategy, similar to "West Coast" offense vs. "East Coast" defense in the NBA. Several teams have traditionally been more focused on speed (Canadiens) while others have traditionally been more focused on physicality (Flyers, Rangers).

Edit: I'd note one of the more brutally physical and notoriously violent teams of the 70s were the Flyers, who also were one of the most successful teams of that decade.

[New Scientist]

Your premise is incorrect. Many great hockey players here have been physical, one semi-recent example being Tim Kerr, although great defensive players are always physical (the list there is near inexhaustible).

Granted this is different than Europe. Hockey in North America has always been a more physical game. In Europe, generally, the focus is more on speed and finesse. This may be because Europeans prefer the Olympic size rink while the official NHL rink is smaller. Its a chicken-egg issue to me though. Most Europeans who come to play in the NHL conform to the European tradition- faster, more finesse.

The speed vs. physicality issue is really a question of overall team strategy, similar to "West Coast" offense vs. "East Coast" defense in the NBA. Several teams have traditionally been more focused on speed (Canadiens) while others have traditionally been more focused on physicality (Flyers, Rangers).

Edit: I'd note one of the more brutally physical and notoriously violent teams of the 70s were the Flyers, who also were one of the most successful teams of that decade.

Well of course if you have a team that have strong players as well as scrappers, then they will prevail. Then the other teams have to become like that to also thrive, so the standard of the game is lowered all round, and players who live just to be skilled and fast are put off by all that nonsense.

Of course the fast playmakers need to improve their speed and skill when the defence are hard hitting. That is all part of it, like tackling in rugby. The fights denegrate the great skill, but is not that bad these days. The 70's was a pretty heavy period, well illustrated by movies like slapshot. Or did that movie influence the game ? Dont know, before my time. The fights are popular again. Is the game regressing ?

[harjit]

Some of the best hockey players were guys who never feared a good scrap: Tiger Williams had great numbers to go along with many 300 penalty minute seasons.
lol Tiger Williams, now there's a trip down memory lane.

Here is a classic linebrawl of the 70s, centering on Tiger and his mortal foe Dave "The Hammer" Schultz.

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[Thorvald Eriksson]

Joey Kocur VS Craig Berube

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[Keystone]

I hate hockey fights. Slows the game down. Kick the snot out of each other afterwards.

[Thorvald Eriksson]

I hate hockey fights. Slows the game down. Kick the snot out of each other afterwards.

Hell, without the fighting every game is nearly identical. They pass it back, they shoot and miss, and they have faceoffs that are all the same. It's as boring as baseball. Bring on the blood on the ice. Where men can be men and not scoring little sissies.:box: :old:

[Keystone]

Hell, without the fighting every game is nearly identical. They pass it back, they shoot and miss, and they have faceoffs that are all the same. It's as boring as baseball. Bring on the blood on the ice. Where men can be men and not scoring little sissies.:box: :old:
Then you're a fight fan but not a hockey fan?

[Thorvald Eriksson]

Then you're a fight fan but not a hockey fan?

It's the unknown quality that you don't know when or if the two heavyweights are going to tangle up with one another. If you ask me the thing that slows down the game the most is the incessant faceoffs and whistles. If a guy falls down on top of the puck it's a whistle, if it goes out into the audience and hits a stupid female that was looking at the other women in the crowd, it's a whistle. To me if they are trying to eliminate fighting then they need to amp up the checking. One great hip check into the boards and I can forget the monotonous aspect of the sport.:jam:

[Keystone]

It's the unknown quality that you don't know when or if the two heavyweights are going to tangle up with one another. If you ask me the thing that slows down the game the most is the incessant faceoffs and whistles. If a guy falls down on top of the puck it's a whistle, if it goes out into the audience and hits a stupid female that was looking at the other women in the crowd, it's a whistle. To me if they are trying to eliminate fighting then they need to amp up the checking. One great hip check into the boards and I can forget the monotonous aspect of the sport.:jam:
Ah, I see. You can't sit still.

[Thorvald Eriksson]

Ah, I see. You can't sit still.

...and you like the lame penalties like hooking, tripping and holding? Hell, I say bring on the high sticking! Blood on the ice! :bbbat:

[Greenberg]

Big Georges Laraque! I hope he stays with the Habs for a while. They are a rather small team so they can use a quality enforcer like him.


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