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Fade the Butcher
03-13-2006, 04:27 AM
I'm thrilled to see Dubya associating globalization with his failed presidency.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/13/politics/13prexy.html?_r=1&ei=5094&en=8ec91228649d8c1b&hp=&ex=1142226000&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

WASHINGTON, March 12 — The president who made pre-emption and going it alone the watchwords of his first term is quietly turning in a new direction, warning at every opportunity of the dangers of turning the nation inward and isolationist, and making the case for international engagement on issues from national security to global economics.

President Bush's cautions on the dangers of pulling back behind American borders — in trade and investment, in immigration and in his effort to make the spread of democracy the signature of his second term — first cropped up in his State of the Union address six weeks ago.

But it accelerated even before the Dubai ports deal was derailed by members of his own party, and before an unexpected uprising began among some neo-conservatives, who are now arguing that Iraq, while a noble effort, has turned into a failed mission that must be abandoned.

In interviews over the past week, Mr. Bush's aides, insisting on anonymity, they say, because they do not want to worsen the fissures, say they fear that the new mood threatens to undermine the international agenda for the rest of Mr. Bush's presidency.

"We're seeing it in everything," said one of Mr. Bush's closest aides last week. "Iraq. The ferocity of an irrational argument over the ports. Guest workers. China and India."

So starting on Monday, just a few days shy of the third anniversary of Mr. Bush's order to topple Saddam Hussein, the president will begin an effort to explain his Iraq strategy anew in the changed environment of increased sectarian killings.

He acknowledged on Saturday that "many of our fellow citizens" are "now wondering if the entire mission is worth it."

But rather than simply delve into the familiar talk about the need to root out terrorists abroad so they cannot strike Americans here, the White House plans to have Mr. Bush expand his discussion of the need for the United States to embrace a new role in the world, even if that means explaining the benefits of globalization to a nation that does not appear to be in a mood to hear that message.

It is yet another change for a man who came to office talking of a "humble foreign policy," and after Sept. 11 used the hammer of the world's sole superpower around the globe.

To his critics, the internationalist approach is too little too late — the price Mr. Bush has paid for a foreign policy that seemed relentlessly focused on building defensive walls and hunting enemies. A search of the White House Web site confirms that Mr. Bush, who in the days before he took office kept the take-no-prisoners speeches of Teddy Roosevelt on a table at his ranch, made little mention of "globalization" for much of his first five years in office, even when European leaders brought it up.

Asked once, several years ago, about his aversion to the topic, one of his senior aides said Mr. Bush associated the word with "mushy Clintonianism."

"It ranks up there with 'nation-building,' " he added.

No longer. Now Mr. Bush is moving into a new phase of his presidency, not by choice or natural inclination, it seems, but by necessity. Mr. Bush changed his tone on nation-building several years ago.

As the invasion turned to occupation, he emphasized the spread of democracy. But even that talk, especially during his re-election campaign, had a unilateralist subtext: the schools and polling places were open because the hammer of the American military made it possible.

His new theme is different, because it is all about interdependence. Two of his aides say the near defeat of the Central American Free Trade Agreement in Congress last summer — it passed by one vote, after arm-twisting by the president brought just enough Republicans back into the fold — jolted Mr. Bush into recognizing a new retreat from the world by his own party.

For the State of the Union address, Mr. Bush instructed his speechwriters to make global engagement a major theme, a big change for a man who ran in 2000 under the banner of a "humble foreign policy." In the speech, he warned that "the road of isolationism and protectionism may seem broad and inviting — yet it ends in danger and decline."

By the time he visited India earlier this month, he argued that while American jobs were often lost to outsourcing, "you don't retrench and pull back."

He said he had to convince Americans that "a 300-million-person market of middle-class citizens here in India" would soon be buying American goods.

"If we can make a product they want, then it becomes — at a reasonable price — and then all of a sudden, people will be able to have a market here," he said.

Mr. Bush's remarks may signal a halting emergence from a mind-set that, by his own acknowledgment, was set by 9/11. "There is a lot of on-the-job training in the modern presidency," said David J .Rothkopf, the author of "Running the World," a history of the National Security Council, and a Commerce Department official under President Clinton.

"Clinton ran on taking a tough line with China, and decided we needed China," Mr. Rothkopf said. "Bush came in with a philosophy that was almost neo-isolationist. When they dealt with Iraq, they did it alone — outside the context of what globalization implies. That's why the second term is the un-first term."

In the next few weeks, Mr. Bush will try to outmaneuver the next Dubai. On immigration, he is fighting in Congress to retain his guest-worker program rather than just strengthen the borders. When President Hu Jintao of China arrives here next month, Mr. Bush must once again do a delicate balancing act, convincing Congress that he is pressing China to close the $201 billion trade gap, while courting Beijing to help disarm North Korea and Iran.

But Iraq is the elephant on the White House lawn. Mr. Bush's speeches on Iraq are intended to shore up fast-ebbing public support, made worse by talk of civil war.

When Mr. Bush gave a set of speeches on Iraq in December, the calls to pull out were mostly from the left. Now, a rising chorus of neo-conservatives, who urged Mr. Bush to topple Mr. Hussein, say that, having liberated Iraq, the rest is up to the Iraqis.

"The administration has, now, to cope with failure," William F. Buckley Jr. wrote in February. "The kernel here is the acknowledgment of defeat."

Briefing reporters on Friday about Mr. Bush's coming speeches, a senior White House official, speaking anonymously because he was describing speeches still being drafted, said Mr. Bush would answer those criticisms and "explain why we and the Iraqis must finish the job together." A year ago, Mr. Bush's allies took such statements as a given. Today, that is no longer the case.

Fade the Butcher
03-13-2006, 04:54 AM
Some great photos. Who are the immigration reformers? Who are the immigration advocates?

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A. Radek
03-14-2006, 12:19 AM
I saw Christopher Buckley for the first time the other day, during an interview about some movie he had made, I forget the name of it. He looks a lot like his father, and has many of the same mannerisms. I don't like the way National Review has changed under his management, though.

In any case, how many here believe the latest numbers floating around on illegals as only being some 12 million? There were more than that around when Reagan held the first mass amnesty for the criminals. I would say there are at least triple that; two border states alone have more than 12 million.

Anchorage Activist
03-16-2006, 05:20 AM
From the N.Y. Times article:

By the time he visited India earlier this month, he argued that while American jobs were often lost to outsourcing, "you don't retrench and pull back."

He said he had to convince Americans that "a 300-million-person market of middle-class citizens here in India" would soon be buying American goods.

"If we can make a product they want, then it becomes — at a reasonable price — and then all of a sudden, people will be able to have a market here," he said.

You don't suppose Dubya could explain how we are going to sell 300 million Indians anything if we ship all our production facilities over there, do you? Of course, this is a President who, after four years at Yale, still can't pronounce "nuke-you-lar".:rolleyes:

Heimdall
03-16-2006, 05:29 AM
President Bush's cautions on the dangers of pulling back behind American borders — in trade and investment, in immigration and in his effort to make the spread of democracy the signature of his second term — first cropped up in his State of the Union address six weeks ago.

It's obvious that Bush doesn't care about his own damn country. He only cares about the multi-national corporation rackett and how to churn out a profit. I hope he winds up being ran out of the country and forced to live in exile in his beloved Mexico or UAE. Screw him.

Anchorage Activist
03-16-2006, 06:08 AM
It was gratifying the way Congress finally grew a pair and stood up to Bush on this UAE ports deal. The Administration actually expected to sneak this past everyone so it would end up as a fait accompli.

What galls me is how Bush is such a missionary for democracy. He acts like it's a religion. And any country which does not passionately embrace carbon-copy, cookie-cutter, American-style McDemocracy is unceremoniously inducted into his "axis of evil". As long as a nation leaves its neighbors alone and extends some form of due process to its people, I say leave them alone. Nobody voted Bush Emperor of the World. That peace dividend bought by Papa Bush 15 years ago has long since been squandered by Baby Bush.

A. Radek
03-16-2006, 02:19 PM
you have to laugh at the way they portray their enemies as 'isolationists' and opposed to internatiaonal trade, while they work hard to insure we have nothing to trade with, meanwhile gutting our tax base to prop up their wondrous 'visions' of an integrated slave world, run by them, of course, as if their little club has been blessed by some sort of manifest destiny thing coming from God.

I particularly like the way they have instilled a sense of actual entitlement in habitual criminals, from white collar embezzlers and swindlers down to the border hopping thieves, while marginalizing their own citizens into being strangers, both economically and legally, in their own nation. Can anybody recall any other country being squeezed as heavilu as the U.S. to throw open it's borders to any putz who can crawl across it? I can't.

Vindex
03-16-2006, 02:30 PM
It is ironic to see a republican scream for democracy I noticed the new speak is America is a Democracy not much mention of that is was founded as a Republic. Too bad all this shit with the war and futher gutting of the ecomony had to happen before people understand bush is a tool.


It was gratifying the way Congress finally grew a pair and stood up to Bush on this UAE ports deal. The Administration actually expected to sneak this past everyone so it would end up as a fait accompli.

What galls me is how Bush is such a missionary for democracy. He acts like it's a religion. And any country which does not passionately embrace carbon-copy, cookie-cutter, American-style McDemocracy is unceremoniously inducted into his "axis of evil". As long as a nation leaves its neighbors alone and extends some form of due process to its people, I say leave them alone. Nobody voted Bush Emperor of the World. That peace dividend bought by Papa Bush 15 years ago has long since been squandered by Baby Bush.

Anchorage Activist
03-16-2006, 04:34 PM
It is ironic to see a republican scream for democracy I noticed the new speak is America is a Democracy not much mention of that is was founded as a Republic. Too bad all this shit with the war and futher gutting of the ecomony had to happen before people understand bush is a tool.

You're not the only one who believes Bush is a tool. I recently read a book entitled "Dick", in which the author makes the case that Dick Cheney is the real President of the country behind the scenes, as sort of a modern-day equivalent of Colonel House and Rasputin combined. The author cites examples such as Bush flying all over the country on 9-11 while Cheney was in the White House executing command decisions. There was also the mysterious "hump" in Bush's back during one of his debates with the android John Kerry, which some speculated was a communications device allowing his handlers to communicate "answers" to him. I wonder if that's how he got his degree at Yale?:D

Ironically, the best expression of my antipathy against democracy came indirectly from Jesse Ventura. Remember his remark about religion in that now famous Playboy interview? I merely substitute "democracy" for "religion", and here's what comes out: "Democracy is nothing more than a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people." Besides, how can democracy work when it is dominated by huge, cash-flush parasitical organizations like the ADL, SPLC, and NAACP, not to mention secessionist Latino lobbies like LULAC and MALDEF? Then the two major parties are dedicated solely for self-perpetuation and re-election of incumbents. They now both compete for the same constituencies. It's understandable from the Democrats; they've been the party of fruits and nuts since 1972. It's not forgivable coming from the Republicans.

Case in point: Recently, the Republican Party in Missouri rejected the candidacy of Glenn Miller, a combat veteran and a family man, because he has been a white nationalist. Yet they accepted the candidacy of Midge (Mitchell) Potts, a 71-year old transgendered freak. Quite frankly, regardless of the merits or demerits of white nationalism, I would rather be represented in Congress by someone who's smart enough to know where to dip his wick. The Missouri Republicans laid bare the moral hypocrisy of the party for all to see. The Republicans play the "gay" card, the "prayer" card, and the "abortion" card merely to hornswoggle God-fearing Americans into voting for them; once in office, they enthusiastically implement the neo-con agenda of melting our borders, dismantling our economy, and deconstructing our culture.

WFHermans
03-16-2006, 06:22 PM
The fact that Glenn Miller isn't allowed to run for Congress is proof enough that "democracy" in the USA is a scam.

The US Army should bring democracy to the USA, not to Iraq.

Jimbo Gomez
03-16-2006, 07:43 PM
WTFHermans: many countries have laws that ban mental patients and/or the criminally insane from running for office you know. ;)

Heimdall
03-17-2006, 05:51 AM
WTFHermans: many countries have laws that ban mental patients and/or the criminally insane from running for office you know. ;)

The U.S. obviously doesn't have a law banning retards from office.

Niko Bellic
03-17-2006, 11:33 PM
It's obvious that Bush doesn't care about his own damn country. He only cares about the multi-national corporation rackett and how to churn out a profit. I hope he winds up being ran out of the country and forced to live in exile in his beloved Mexico or UAE. Screw him.

He cares about his own damn country, he just has a different vision about what is good for the country. Globalism, especially where free trade is concerned, is the kind of issue that can't be done half-assed either way. We either need to be totally protectionist, or totally free-trade. Bush is a proponent of the latter. If done correctly, over a long period of time, free-trade can work. It will eventually bring the third-worlders up to the point where there is no meaningful difference between doing business in the West, and anywhere else. The only question is if you think it's worth the short term cost.

Heimdall
03-18-2006, 12:37 AM
He cares about his own damn country, he just has a different vision about what is good for the country. Globalism, especially where free trade is concerned, is the kind of issue that can't be done half-assed either way. We either need to be totally protectionist, or totally free-trade. Bush is a proponent of the latter. If done correctly, over a long period of time, free-trade can work. It will eventually bring the third-worlders up to the point where there is no meaningful difference between doing business in the West, and anywhere else. The only question is if you think it's worth the short term cost.

Why does it have to be totally one or the other? What's wrong with having free trade, with say, natural resources while at the same time protecting our manufacturing capacity? Right now all free trade has brought America is more people on some sort of social welfare than ever before, though it can be said that social welfare is showing that Bush cares. I personally don't see why it's in our interest to let multinational corporations keep moving wherever labor is cheap and not regard them as a potential threat in need of control. It's just not in our best interest to bring third worlders up when we're brining our own down.

Eisenhans
03-18-2006, 12:50 AM
I approve of the United States moving more conservative, but having a fool as a president-no.

daisy
06-09-2006, 05:50 AM
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white racist - you get off our continentsometimes i wish we could and that we were not enslaved here
the hispanics will learn
* the continents belong to the govs
* they call me a racist
because i do not want to breed or be with blacks