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Ahknaton
03-18-2006, 03:52 AM
http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=55&ArticleID=1383454
Islam could be our national religion, says cathedral cleric
Michael Brown
Religious Affairs Correspondent

UNLESS Christians start taking their faith seriously, Britain could become a Muslim nation, a senior cathedral cleric is suggesting.
The warning was sounded by Lincoln Cathedral subdean Alan Nugent in this week's Chapter Letter, distributed to members of the cathedral congregation yesterday.
Canon Nugent says that during the demonstrations by Muslims following the publication of cartoons characterising the Prophet Mohammed, "much was made" of some of the "brutal and violent" posters carried by protesters.
But other posters were not commented on – and to Canon Nugent they were "significant".
He says: "They warned that Britain would before long become Islamic. There is no doubt Islam is a missionary faith and the conversion of unbelievers is a major factor in its spread.
"It is not surprising many Muslims may well harbour the hope that this country could be converted to the faith of the Prophet – especially when so often they encounter a Christian faith which could well be characterised as uncertain and in decline."
Canon Nugent adds: "What is needed for Britain to remain a Christian nation is for Christian people to take their faith seriously and never assume that a Christian Britain is a given which will never change."
Recent figures have suggested that by 2012 there will be more people worshipping in mosques in England than in churches.
In an interview last weekend in Sudan, Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams tackled such predictions, and described church attendance as "stable" with signs of growth.
He added: "However many people there are in the mosque in Britain, there is still a question, I think, as to what is the religious institution of first resort for the British people. Now culturally and historically I don't see that being a mosque in five years' time."
13 March 2006

Felix the Cat
03-18-2006, 04:58 AM
Christianity is a major part of the problem - the biggest wog-huggers in Europe are the Christian churches, and whenever some horrible terrorist atrocity occurs, the airwaves and newscolumns always fill up with Christians bleating about the need to "understand" and "forgive" the perps

The measures necessary to deal with these problems cannot be implemented so long as Christianity retains a significant influence on popular thinking

Ahknaton
03-18-2006, 05:11 AM
Christianity is a major part of the problem - the biggest wog-huggers in Europe are the Christian churches, and whenever some horrible terrorist atrocity occurs, the airwaves and newscolumns always fill up with Christians bleating about the need to "understand" and "forgive" the perps

The measures necessary to deal with these problems cannot be implemented so long as Christianity retains a significant influence on popular thinking
That's true to a degree, however unfortunately the trend is for the influence of Islam to grow as opposed to that of Christianity to shrink. I can't see any good coming from increased Islamic influence.

Starr
03-18-2006, 05:39 AM
How many non-muslims are converting to Islam? does anyone have any stats on that?

Petr
03-18-2006, 09:56 AM
Christianity is a major part of the problem - the biggest wog-huggers in Europe are the Christian churches, and whenever some horrible terrorist atrocity occurs, the airwaves and newscolumns always fill up with Christians bleating about the need to "understand" and "forgive" the perps
I dare to claim that in the majority of these cases, it's not the Christians but liberal humanists in a Christian guise.

And no, that's not a "true Scotsman" fallacy. As fundamentalists ever since the days of Gresham Machen have argued, liberalism is a religion of its own:

http://www.biblebelievers.com/machen/

"Machen correctly asserts that this is not merely a different approach to the Gospel, but is in fact a different gospel: an exchange of God's sovereignty for man's, God's law-word for man's, God's eternal, unchanging standards for man's evolving, situation ethics. For this reason, Machen contends that liberalism and Christianity are separate things: rival religions, permanently at war."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802811213/002-3630475-8004840?v=glance&n=283155


Petr

Atlas
03-18-2006, 02:25 PM
How many non-muslims are converting to Islam? does anyone have any stats on that?


Hard to say it... thousand of people which include a lot of women who married a muslim.

Lenny
03-23-2006, 03:46 AM
UNLESS Christians start taking their faith seriously, Britain could become a Muslim nation, a senior cathedral cleric is suggesting.Whether it becomes a Muslim nation has nothing to do with whether people go to church (though it couldnt hurt), and everything to do with demographics. Cant he see that :confused: I'm sure he can, so if he is genuinely concerned then why isn't he speaking about the need to stop Muslim immigration and the need for repatriation of Muslims then. Perhaps because you can be thrown in jail for that in the UK now, I dont know :rolleyes:

Christianity is a major part of the problem - the biggest wog-huggers in Europe are the Christian churches, and whenever some horrible terrorist atrocity occurs, the airwaves and newscolumns always fill up with Christians bleating about the need to "understand" and "forgive" the perpsThose church leaders that are leftist are just reflecting the current values of Western European society. They are a symptom not a problem. If the norms and values of society shifted significantly, the'd surely follow.

How many non-muslims are converting to Islam? does anyone have any stats on that?About half of VNN for one...

:rofl: