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Felix the Cat
03-19-2006, 07:50 AM
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11743009/

ROME - A leading cardinal on Thursday backed allowing Muslim pupils in Italy to study the Quran in state schools, in the Vatican’s latest gesture of concern for good relations with Islam.

Cardinal Renato Martino said he agreed with a proposal by an Italian Muslim umbrella group, saying it was only fair as the number of non-Catholic children in the country was growing.

“If there is a need. If in a school there are 100 children of the Islamic religion, I don’t see why they can’t be taught their religion,” he told a conference in Rome.

Martino heads the Vatican’s department on Justice and Peace and is one of the most influential people in the Holy See. The Vatican’s views on issues such as religious education can have great influence on Italian political decisions.

A Muslim group recently asked the education ministry to arrange for Muslim students to be taught their religion for an hour a week in public schools.

Catholic pupils who do not attend church schools have such an arrangement.

Muslim groups estimate that there are about 1.2 million Muslims out of a population of about 57 million in Italy but there is no reliable estimate of the number of Muslim children in state schools.

Martino said that if Italy made it easier for Muslim children to study religion it would be easier for Christians living in some Islamic countries to ask for reciprocity.

'Dangerous and confused'
Some conservative Catholics disagreed. Leading Catholic writer Vittorio Messori told a national newspaper the proposal was “absurd”, branding it as “just a dangerous and confused mix of political correctness.”

Muslims in Italy, most from North Africa, generally keep a very low profile. There have been no significant protests in Italy over publication of cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

But their presence is important because of their proximity to the Vatican, the world headquarters of Roman Catholicism.

Pope Benedict has condemned the cartoons and last month appointed Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald, a top expert in Islamic affairs, to be his envoy to Egypt and the 22-nation Arab League.

Former Reforms Minister Roberto Calderoli of the anti-immigrant Northern League party caused a storm last month after he appeared appearance on television wearing a T-shirt featuring the cartoons.

He was forced to resign after eleven people died in Benghazi, Libya, when crowds protesting against the cartoons tried to storm the Italian consulate.

Religious tensions between Muslims and non-Muslims are rare in Italy, although there have been some calls by Muslims and lay groups to remove crosses from public schools, hospitals and courtrooms.

Laws passed under Fascist dictator Benito Mussolini in the 1920s decreed schools and courts must display the cross.

Italy dropped Catholicism as state religion in 1984 but laws about crosses in some public places are still technically in force, although rarely enforced.

Kodos
03-19-2006, 07:52 AM
LOL guess the Curia threatened to JP I the Panzerkardinal if he didn't start towing the commie line, someone sack St Peters now...

Petr
03-19-2006, 07:56 AM
LOL guess the Curia threatened to JP I the Panzerkardinal if he didn't start towing the commie line, someone sack St Peters now...
Depressingly enough, your sardonic interpretation of Vatican power politics may not be that far from truth... (The Vatican is a perfect place to learn cynicism)


Petr

Kodos
03-19-2006, 08:00 AM
Depressingly enough, your sardonic interpretation of Vatican power politics may not be that far from truth

Of course it isn't, the Pope has absolute power but the Curia can easily whack him so in practice he is a mouthpiece for their( the Curia or the most ruthless factions within) control... if he wants to live.

The people lower in the hierarchy never say or do anything without their marching orders or they'd be defrocked.

Lenny
03-24-2006, 01:55 AM
A leading cardinal on Thursday backed allowing Muslim pupils in Italy to study the Quran in state schools, in the Vatican’s latest gesture of concern for good relations with Islam.What else is new http://forums.wireplay.co.uk/images/smilies/sleeping.gif


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Daniel Shays
03-24-2006, 05:43 AM
Lenny,

You'll love this gallery of JPII:

http://forum.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=41352

Jimbo Gomez
03-24-2006, 08:24 AM
Jesus H. Christ, what the hell are they thinking? What good could possibly come of this for the Church? They should do all they can to convert those assholes, not support their colonization. Suicidal behaviour if I've ever seen it.

Lenny
03-25-2006, 01:54 AM
Jesus H. Christ, what the hell are they thinking? What good could possibly come of this for the Church?It's simple, Globalization is part of the Vatican's agenda. Also, they are worm-like trying to wriggle their way into the good graces of Islam and Muslims

Lenny,

You'll love this gallery of JPII:

http://forum.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=41352excellent link Tamer of Savages :D Belloc, Charlie "Brown" Martel, and the other Catholics, click there http://www.thephora.net/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif