The Boxing Thread

[Count Sudoku]

Until a few weeks ago, whites held 17 of 20 major belts from middleweight and up. Currently they are at 15 including all 4 at heavyweight, middleweight and super middleweight.

List of current world boxing champions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_world_boxing_champions

The most exciting recent news is that #1 ranked and IBF, WBO & IBO champion Wladimir Klitschko defeated #3 ranked undefeated WBA Champion in recess Ruslan Chageav on June 20, 2009 to win the Ring Magazine belt which has been vacant for the last 5 years. He won every round easily and scored a TKO in the 9th round.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=20216&more=1

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/fotos/wladimir4534.jpg

The fight (and others) can be downloaded free here.

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/boxing-fighting/32314-jakkups-fight-downloads-thread-21.html

[Westminster]

Amazing isn't it! They had us convinced, Whites were inferior athletes to Blacks; that appears to be tripe.

http://www.castefootball.us/aboutus.asp

http://www.castefootball.us/articles.asp?sportID=16

[calvin]

You do have to remember that Blacks only constitute some fifteen percent of the population of Britain and the USA. What you'd have to do would be to estimated the level of investment in boxing and the rate of participation in the sport in various white and non-white nations to make a fair assessment. I personally think that Blacks are above average in terms of boxing talent. It is also blatantly obvious that this talent for boxing has been exaggerated to a sickening degree by the liberal elite to the extent that White boxers have been, until recently, saddled with an immense psychological disadvantage.

I think that Blacks have physical advantages in modern sport boxing, in terms of hip to shoulder ratio, jaw strength and most importantly, reach. Blacks have longer arms than Whites, a simple fact exposed by every "tale of the tape". On the other, hand, Whites have more stamina, more resistance to pain and faster reflexes. I think that Blacks do quite well in kick and Thai boxing also, but not so well in MMA.

The real disgrace in boxing is the racist mantra about the present palourous state of boxing, that the brain dead sports establishment repeat ad nauseum now that talented, exiting, tough and athletic, WHITE boxers are totally dominating the squared circle.

[Count Sudoku]

Negroes do have some advantages in boxing. Longer monkey arms, thicker skin, thicker skulls and smaller brains so they probably are better "per capita" at boxing than whites.

Since sports is one of the few things blacks are good at, it puts a smile on my face to see them lose to whitey.

One fun thing I do is watch the reaction of black fans when their black fighters lose to a white one. I have never seen a black person cheer when a white boxer beats a black one.

[Nikolai]

The only reason why Europeans dominate is because the talent pool is completely lacking. There aren't any big names like Ali, Suger Ray or Tyson, and is full of mediocre boxers.

The Klitschko brothers were the only ones that impressed me. Valuev is always entertaining to watch, but nowhere near the talent of past boxers.

[Count Sudoku]

The only reason why Europeans dominate is because the talent pool is completely lacking. There aren't any big names like Ali, Suger Ray or Tyson, and is full of mediocre boxers.

The Klitschko brothers were the only ones that impressed me. Valuev is always entertaining to watch, but nowhere near the talent of past boxers.

The K brothers are really good and I'd love to see them fight and beat those all time great niggers. Valuev sucks. He almost lost to a 46 yr old Holyfield last December.

[Winston]

The only reason why Europeans dominate is because the talent pool is completely lacking.
This is tantamount to saying that the only reason group A is winning is because group B lacks talent. To compare group ability is to compare talent pools.

[Count Sudoku]

This is tantamount to saying that the only reason group A is winning is because group B lacks talent. To compare group ability is to compare talent pools.

Well the negroes always say that the reason there aren't any black heavyweight champions right now is because all the good black athletes are in the NFL and NBA. I guess the NFL and NBA didn't exist 20 years ago.

[calvin]

The only reason why Europeans dominate is because the talent pool is completely lacking

The only reason that Black boxers ever dominated was because the White talent pool was lacking for a few decades. The working class areas where most boxing gyms were located were gradually taken over by Blacks and became unsafe areas for Whites, which naturally enough led to a decline in White participation in pro boxing, or at least meant that they were de facto denied access to the elite historical institutions of boxing. Tyson's "greatness" was the product of a lack talent in the heavyweight division. Mitch Green gave Tyson fits, Buster Douglas knocked him TFO, either one of the Klitschko brothers would beat the crap out of Tyson, prime time or otherwise.

[Count Sudoku]

The only reason that Black boxers ever dominated was because the White talent pool was lacking for a few decades. The working class areas where most boxing gyms were located were gradually taken over by Blacks and became unsafe areas for Whites, which naturally enough led to a decline in White participation in pro boxing, or at least meant that they were de facto denied access to the elite historical institutions of boxing. Tyson's "greatness" was the product of a lack talent in the heavyweight division. Mitch Green gave Tyson fits, Buster Douglas knocked him TFO, either one of the Klitschko brothers would beat the crap out of Tyson, prime time or otherwise.

None of those "all time great" niggers ever fought anyone as big and talented as the K brothers.

Correction. Tyson and Holyfield fought Lennon Lewis who was a big black talented mofo and they both lost.

[Count Sudoku]

http://www.castefootball.us/viewarticle.asp?sportID=16&teamID=0&ID=23435

Boxing

http://www.castefootball.us/images/temp/567e5a1d64faf14aaa98c22192e3f19b.jpg


Where Is Our Respect?

pictured: the Klitschko brothers

by Whiteathlete33

(7/6/09) The face of boxing has changed dramatically in the past five years. Most of the champions from middleweight up happen to be white. There are just too many talented white fighters from Europe. This brings up a very interesting question: Why do white fighters get so little respect from the media and fans?

Joe Calzaghe is one of the best boxers who ever lived. He retired 46-0 but still has many critics. Many white fans think that Calzaghe should have a loss to Bernard Hopkins. I wonder which fight they were watching? Calzaghe has defeated "black hope" after "black hope" but is criticized by the media for fighting a supposed post-prime racist in Bernard Hopkins and known steroid user Roy Jones Jr. Some even say Joe "slaps" when he punches. My response to that is to watch the Calzaghe vs. Jeff Lacy fight.

Two other white fighters that are constantly criticized by the media are Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko. Wladimir did suffer a few bad losses earlier in his career but now is as dominant as ever. He has defeated countless black fighters but this is never enough. The heavyweight division is supposedly "very weak" at this point, meaning, in Caste-speak, that there aren't any black champions.

Vitali Klitschko is one of the best heavyweights of all time. He has never been down in a fight and has the highest knockout percentage of any heavyweight at 97 percent. Can a fighter be more dominant than that? I highly doubt it is possible. The one thing holding the Klitschko brothers back at this point is their skin color.

Everyone should enjoy boxing now because it has never been better. We have two white brothers as heavyweight champions. They are educated, well spoken and class acts all the way. There is one thing I can guarantee. You won't see them biting anyone's ear off in the ring. You also will not see their mugshots in the paper. Give them the respect they deserve.

[Westminster]

Thing is, Eastern Europe didn't have a program of discrimination against White Athletes and Affirmative Action for Black Athletes.

[Count Sudoku]

Obnoxious little negro Floyd Mayweather states whites created MMA because they suck at boxing...

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=21144

Floyd Mayweather Jr. has once again displayed his race baiting antics and his ignorant way of thinking. During a recent video interview with CBS Sports, Mayweather made some wild race baiting comments about white fighters in the sport of boxing. According to Mayweather, there are no white fighters dominating in the sport of boxing and due to that lack of domination, they got together and started mixed martial arts. Those comments were a direct response to his thoughts on the UFC 103 pay-per-view, which goes head-to-head with his pay-per-view bout with Juan Manuel Marquez on September 19.

"In boxing, we know who's dominating. Black fighters and Hispanic fighters is dominating in this sport. And this is not a racial statement but there's no white fighters in boxing that's dominating, so they had to go to something else and start something new," Mayweather said.

Maybe Mayweather is blind as well. Boxing, at the moment, is being dominated by Hispanic, Asian and European fighters. There are very few American fighters - white, black or otherwise - making a serious play in the sport. A pure display of "what you should't say on the record" - especially when your company is the lead promoter of an upcoming pay-per-view with millions of dollars at stake - and you, and your promotional partner, Golden Boy Promotions, are out there trying to secure the most pay-per-view buys possible.

Not the first time Mayweather was race baiting and letting his mouth fly off the handle. Last year during an interview with David Mayo of the Grand Rapids Press, Mayweather attacked HBO and their announce team - making comments that accused the network of having a racist agenda because they pushed and gave too much praise to Hispanic fighters, a white fighter like Kelly Pavlik and a Filipino in Manny Pacquiao - and claimed the network did not praise any black fighters.

"Even a guy like Jim Lampley, he praises Kelly Pavlik -- who has won some good fights, he beat Jermain Taylor twice, we have to give him credit for that -- but they talk about Kelly Pavlik, a white fighter, like he's the second coming or they go crazy over Manny Pacquiao. But I'm a black fighter," Mayweather said.

"Is it racial? Absolutely. They praise white fighters, they praise Hispanic fighters, whatever. But black fighters, they never praise. I've noticed it for a long time but I couldn't say anything because I had to do business with them. I'll still do business with them, but I'm done holding my tongue."

Pavlik is having trouble landing a date on HBO and the same network spent over $3 million for Chad Dawson to fight Antonio Tarver in a rematch. The network passed on a war between Tomasz Adamek and Glen Johnson. Does that make HBO racist against white fighters? If people thought like Mayweather, they would jump to those conclusions. HBO sure wasn't racist when Mayweather was paid millions to fight guys like Sharmba Mitchell, DeMarcus Corley, Phllip Ndou and a whole string of mismatched opponents.

[Gummo]

Wladimir Klitschko's worst match (Since then, I never cheered for him again)

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[Kodos]

You do have to remember that Blacks only constitute some fifteen percent of the population of Britain and the USA. What you'd have to do would be to estimated the level of investment in boxing and the rate of participation in the sport in various white and non-white nations to make a fair assessment. I personally think that Blacks are above average in terms of boxing talent. It is also blatantly obvious that this talent for boxing has been exaggerated to a sickening degree by the liberal elite to the extent that White boxers have been, until recently, saddled with an immense psychological disadvantage.

I think that Blacks have physical advantages in modern sport boxing, in terms of hip to shoulder ratio, jaw strength and most importantly, reach. Blacks have longer arms than Whites, a simple fact exposed by every "tale of the tape". On the other, hand, Whites have more stamina, more resistance to pain and faster reflexes. I think that Blacks do quite well in kick and Thai boxing also, but not so well in MMA.

The real disgrace in boxing is the racist mantra about the present palourous state of boxing, that the brain dead sports establishment repeat ad nauseum now that talented, exiting, tough and athletic, WHITE boxers are totally dominating the squared circle.

What ive been told about boxing (the only sport I occasionally enjoy watching) is that blacks can't take as much body damage otherwise of course they tend to be faster.

[Kodos]

None of those "all time great" niggers ever fought anyone as big and talented as the K brothers.

Correction. Tyson and Holyfield fought Lennon Lewis who was a big black talented mofo and they both lost.

Tyson was a fucking killer before he went to jail (I saw the Buster Douglas fight he looked like he was drugged)... the people he was punching might as well have been getting kicked by a kangaroo.

[Gummo]

His end came with his new trainer...

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[harjit]

Tyson was a fucking killer before he went to jail (I saw the Buster Douglas fight he looked like he was drugged)... the people he was punching might as well have been getting kicked by a kangaroo.
That fight was in Tokyo. Some time later he confessed he was up up late partying with Japanese chicks the night before.

"I was (censored) those Japanese girls like it was, like it was eating grapes," he said in the documentary, which repeatedly bleeped out his colorful language. "You'd (have) thought I was Caligula ... ."
http://sports.rediff.com/sports/2003/jul/10box.htm

[calvin]

What ive been told about boxing (the only sport I occasionally enjoy watching) is that blacks can't take as much body damage otherwise of course they tend to be faster

The single biggest advantage that Blacks have in boxing is that they have significantly longer reach.

It used to be received wisdom that Black fighters couldn't take sustained punishment to the body. Why would old school trainers just invent this claim? They wouldn't of course, but modern trainers wont tell their charges this because, despite it being useful knowledge, it's "racist".

[Wanderer]

What ive been told about boxing (the only sport I occasionally enjoy watching) is that blacks can't take as much body damage otherwise of course they tend to be faster.


It's usually blacks have greater ability to absorb damage due to having a thicker physique "skulls and necks" and alos tend to be quicker and more fluid... have more rhythm. :)


whites tend to be physically stronger overall


None of that has ever really been confirmed and may be as result of racial stereotypes

[Wanderer]

The racial behind boxing has followed the sport for decades

Part of the truth is that boxing isn't popular with whites like it used to be.

Boxing is correlated with socioeconomics and as the US Whites got wealthier many of the earlier groups that predominated Irish, Italians, Jews... moved on to other leisure activities

Hell Jews used to be HUGE influence amongst fighters. Some of the greatest boxers pound for pound in history were Jews... now they are rare to find anywahere in the ranks (outside the promotions, news caster, journalists, laywers, etc...)


This changed 15 years ago after the Soviet Union collapsed and the borders opened up... the was a sudden deluge of great fighters who flooded the market and are clearly dominating some of the weight classes.

[Wanderer]

The only reason why Europeans dominate is because the talent pool is completely lacking. There aren't any big names like Ali, Suger Ray or Tyson, and is full of mediocre boxers.

The Klitschko brothers were the only ones that impressed me. Valuev is always entertaining to watch, but nowhere near the talent of past boxers.


You can make the same types of claims about other eras as well.

Tyson is a great example... while his technique was unique and he had great power, speed and handspeed... his competition sucked for the most part he mowed through stiff after stiff and clubfighters.

Most of the "top" heavyweight were no better than what exists in the division today.. Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tubbs, Bonecrusher smith, Trevor Berbick are hardly among the greats ...

[Count Sudoku]

Tyson was a fucking killer before he went to jail (I saw the Buster Douglas fight he looked like he was drugged)...

He lost the Buster fight because he was overconfident and didn't train properly.

[Count Sudoku]

Wladimir Klitschko's worst match (Since then, I never cheered for him again)

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Oy Vey! He was drugged!

Wlad was actually kicking Brewster's ass for the first 4 rounds and then he gassed in the fifth.

Wlad has since won 11 straight including 8 that were title matches. He is now the IBO, IBF, WBO and Ring Magazine champ.

He has been totally dominant in his last 8 fights. In his last fight against the #3 ranked boxer (Vitali his brother is #2) he almost literally didn't get hit.

He should easily be on anyone's top 100 Heavyweights of all time list.

[Count Sudoku]

It's usually blacks have greater ability to absorb damage due to having a thicker physique "skulls and necks" and alos tend to be quicker and more fluid... have more rhythm. :)

whites tend to be physically stronger overall

None of that has ever really been confirmed and may be as result of racial stereotypes

Blacks have thicker skulls, longer arms and they don't cut as easily. They do have way weaker necks. That's why cops aren't allowed to use choke holds. It kills too many negroes.

[Nikolai]

Klychko has a big fight later, lets wish him the best of luck!

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/more/07/08/klitschko/t1_0708_klitschko_getty.jpg

Ukrainian boxer Klitschko set for clash with Arreola

(AFP) – 8 hours ago

LOS ANGELES — Vitali Klitschko, who shares three of four major belts with brother Wladimir, puts his World Boxing Council title on the line when he meets Cristobal Arreola in a heavyweight bout on Saturday.

Klitschko, who has battled injuries which led to a four-year hiatus from the sport, is the heavy favourite for Saturday's fight at Staples Center arena.

"This will be fight number three at Staples and I spend a lot of time in Los Angeles," Klitschko said. "For me it is the biggest arena and I am ready to fight there. I will show my skills and punch in the ring."

The 38-year-old Klitschko has not lost since a 2003 bout against Lennox Lewis at Staples that was stopped by the referee because of a deep cut over his left eye.

Wladimir is the International Boxing Federation and World Boxing Organization title holder and together the two Ukrainian brothers who live in Germany cut a striking figure with their ripped physiques.

Vitali Klitschko tipped the scales at 252 pounds at Friday's weighing for Saturday's fight.

"I am always in shape," Vitali said. "It is never tough to get in shape. I don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs. I always maintain the fitness."

This marks Klitschko's third fight on his comeback from the four-years off.

Arreola (27-0, 24 KOs) is trying to become the first fighter of Mexican descent to win a heavyweight belt.

Much has been made of Arreola's weight for Saturday's bout. He even joked about it at the weigh in, initially stepping on the scale with a weighted vest hidden under his t-shirt. But his weight for Saturday's fight is no laughing matter.

The 28-year-old Arreola weighed 239 pounds 15 months ago when he beat Chris Witherspoon but has beefed up to 251 for the fight against Klitschko.

"It's not going to go far, plain and simple," Arreola said. "It is going to be a knockout fight and it is going to be exciting.

"I am going to bring emotion and determination to win the title for Mexicans and Mexican-Americans to celebrate. That is my goal."

Klitschko (37-2, 36 KOs) brings a lot more world title experience to the ring that Arreola who is in his first career title fight. This is Klitschko's second defence of his WBC title and his ninth career title fight (7-2).

Klitschko, a student of boxing, is hoping to use the first few rounds to figure out Arreola's game plan then end it with a knockout.

"If I find the mistake in the defence of Arreola, I will send him to the floor," Klitschko said.

[Count Sudoku]

Oy Vey! The picture is the wrong K brother! It is Vitali who fights tonight.

The one on the left.

http://jabsngrabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/wbc-heavyweight-champion-vitali-klitschko-with-his-brother-wbo-and-ibf-heavyweight-champion-wladimir-klitschko.jpg

I'll post a link where people can download the fight as soon as I can. It'll probably be Sunday morning. No spoiling the result until "enough" time has passed!

[Gummo]

Vitaly is a class too high for him.

[Count Sudoku]

The HBO (English version) of the fight can be downloaded here.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k207/MagicPotatoes/wmplayer2009-09-2702-43-29-81.jpg

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LRCVWTVU

[Nikolai]

Nice fight!

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46451000/jpg/_46451005_vitali_466_get.jpg

[Keystone]

Boxing circa 1919---

No neutral corner, no standing 8 count, 5 oz gloves:

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Oh, no phoney "MMA" either.