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Shylock
08-28-2009, 10:39 PM
Yes, they do exist. I found this blog, it's an interesting read. He's sorta like the Irish version of Hakluyt. Someone should invite this guy over here to this forum. He could be the the Anti-Basil. :p

http://anirishtory.wordpress.com/

Basil Fawlty
08-28-2009, 10:47 PM
He's not interesting at all. I thought this type had become extinct here by now but evidently there are still a few of them around.

Shylock
08-28-2009, 11:03 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tory

The term, derived from Tóraidhe, was originally used to refer to an Irish outlaw and later often applied to any Confederate or Royalist in arms.[1] English and British Tories from the time of the Glorious Revolution up until the Reform Bill of 1832 were characterised by strong monarchist tendencies, support of the Church of England, and hostility to reform, while the Tory Party was an actual organization which held power intermittently throughout the same period.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Conservative_Party


The Irish Conservative Party, often called the Irish Tories, was one of the dominant Irish political parties in Ireland in the 19th century. Throughout much of the century it and the Irish Liberal Party battled for electoral dominance among Ireland's small electorate within the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, with various parties such as the movements of Daniel O'Connell and later the Independent Irish Party relegated into third place.

As late as 1859, the Irish Conservative Party still won the greatest number of Irish seats in Westminster, in that year's general election winning a majority of the seats on offer. In the 1840s, the party supported Daniel O'Connell's call for repeal of the Act of Union, believing that a resurrected Irish parliament would offer the best chance to defend Protestant interests. Many saw themselves as the successors of William Molyneux and his 1698 pamphlet, The Case of Ireland's being Bound by Acts of Parliament in England, Stated in which he made an argument disputing the right of the English Parliament to legislate for Ireland as the kingdom had its own distinct representative assemblies.

Though aligned with the Conservative Party in Great Britain, the Irish Conservatives took independent stances on many issues, a fact made easier by the lack of rigid party voting in the British House of Commons.

Its main rival, the Liberals, lost out to Isaac Butt's Home Government Association in the early 1870s, ironically, considering that the HGA was, to a significant extent, made up of Irish Tories such as Butt himself.

Franchise reform, notably the Irish Reform Act of 1868 and the Secret Ballot Act of 1872 which increased the number of Catholic Nationalist electors, the electoral triumph of the Irish Parliamentary Party under Charles Stewart Parnell, and the appearance of the Liberal Unionist Party and the Irish Unionist Party, all ate into the Irish Conservative Party support and by the late 19th century it was no longer a major electoral force.

Organisations associated with the Irish Conservative Party included the Irish Metropolitan Conservative Society in Dublin and the Kildare Street Club, a gentleman's club in Kildare Street, Dublin.

Prominent members included Isaac Butt and the Reverend Charles Boyton. It was strongly associated with the Dublin University Magazine founded by Butt in 1833 and had a strong Trinity College Dublin academic input.

Errigal
08-28-2009, 11:21 PM
He seems to be just plain weird.

http://anirishtory.wordpress.com/2008/07/09/irish-republicanism/

Edit:

He seems to be a bit like that Ruth Dudley Edwards. I feel like someone being dragged into a family argument when these people from a republican background go strange like this.