'Saint' Joseph Stalin

[Nikolai]

(With his leadership and militaristic heroism aside, Stalin does not deserve to be even considered for sainthood, since he was an atheist and killed many Orthodox. This shouldn't be taken too seriously.)

Saint Joseph Stalin

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In the Church of St. Olga, this icon was placed. It is depicting Joseph Stalin and Blessed Matrona of Moscow. As legend has it, Stalin would visit her on a regular basis to ask her advice on whether Moscow should be defended against Fascists. Father Evstafy of St. Olga's believes Stalin to be one of the fathers of the country "no matter how bad he was."

The placing of the icon caught the attention of a group called "Communists of St. Petersburg" and they printed around 3000 icons of Stalin alone with a halo around his head, then distributed them to the city.

Due to the scandalous nature of the icon, it was finally removed from the church.

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http://www.contemporaryorthodoxy.com/2008/12/saint-joseph-stalin.html

[Nikolai]

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[Boleslaw]

Glorifying Communist tyrants. Brilliant!

I could use the occasion to knee-jerk the Orthodox Church; in the same manner Nikolai and Graves look for any oppurtunity to spit on Catholics. But I won't, outta respect for the 'other lung' of the Christian world as John Paul II termed the Eastern tradition.

[KerguelenExileDissident]

About 2 years before Stalin died he turned radically anti-jewish, for what reason nobody really knows (jewish power realization of).

At any rate he was poisoned by a Jewess and died.

[Nikolai]

Glorifying Communist tyrants. Brilliant!

I was just sharing this information about a minority, fringe group that had a sentimental attachment to him for defending Russian in WWII and how it was further propagated by atheistic communists for their political interests.

I am just reporting a news story and this is obviously a heretical belief, going against Orthodox doctrine.

No need to try and be a dick about it.

[Boleslaw]

Well there you go, I openly stated that I wont insult the Orthodox church and now I'm a dick. This after him trying to claim the Pope as the Anti-Christ. Rich I tell you.

[Nikolai]

Well there you go, I openly stated that I wont insult the Orthodox church and now I'm a dick. This after him trying to claim the Pope as the Anti-Christ. Rich I tell you.

:offtopic:

:munch:

[ScottishStalinist1]

"Blessed peace, secure well-being and true serenity for labor can only be achieved along the path of truth; the affairs of the truth of nations are linked invisibly but effectively with the affairs of the Truth of God... and the desire of peace-loving people today to live in peace and justice is also linked with the Truth of God.

...We are happy that this truth is being realized by our people under the resolute leadership of our universally recognized Leader and inspirer of the peace-loving peoples Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin..."

From a speech by Patriarch Alexis at the Third All-Union conference of supporters of peace in Moscow in November 1951.

"You have strengthened the Gospel behests of brotherhood, unity and freedom in the hearts of working people the whole world over ...

Fully aware how hard it is to swim against the tide and that in the early period of Your second seventy-years the enemies of truth and justice will see the light, come to You and say; you are right, Joseph the Wise, and your judgement is just. Teach us how to live in the world with our brothers, long offended and humiliated by us.

'This will be, O Lord, this will be!' "

Extract from a congratulatory telegram on Stalin's seventieth birthday from the Catholicos-Patriarch of All-Georgia. JMP. 1950. No. 1, p.5.

"Heavy leaden clouds continue to gather on the horizon, multiply and spread, covering more and more of the sky. A sinister black shadow is falling on the cities and valleys, on the peaceful fields and pastures. The air is close before the storm, and it is increasingly hard to breathe on earth. For the third time in the life of a single human generation the beast of war, even crueller and more savage than before, is ready to break loose .

I have come from a land were the sky is clear and free of these thunderclouds of war which are gathering over mankind. The land of my Country, which has healed its wounds by the peaceful labor of a great family of fraternal peoples .

...With surprise and delight the peoples are realizing that the imperialist bacchanalia of preparing for war is not affecting either the tranquillity or the development of my country, where everything radiates faith in peaceful human living together and everything is directed towards affirming peace between peoples .

...In the titanic struggle of Good against evil, Light against darkness and Truth against falsehood there can be no question of which place to choose for the Christian Church: its place is predetermined by its very basis, meaning, task and aim.

...The truth is invincible. And this means that we too, its confessors, servants and champions, are invincible. Let us close our ranks and march on with new courage!

The blessing of God will remain with us in this sacred struggle!..”


From a speech by Metropolitan Nicholas at the Congress of people in defence of peace held in Vienna in December 1952.


"Today the leader of the Catholic church, blinded by long hatred of Orthodoxy and of the Slavs, in particular, and among them to a large extent of Russian Soviet people, this old inveterate enemy of the Soviet Union has openly entered the somber camp of the torch-bearers of a new fire. The whole world knows him to be an agent of American imperialism.

...In recent days the Pope has shown his face of Antichrist in all its spiritual monstrosity by his decree on the excommunication of communists and their sympathizers..."

From a speech by "Metropolitan Nicholas at the All-Union Conference of supporters of peace in August 1949

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St. Matrona and Stalin. The contemporary folk icon.



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Portrait of Stalin in icon manner. Painter Paul Filonov.

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Patriarch Alexis and metropolitan Nicholas under the Stalin portrait.


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The Church Hierarchs on reception by Stalin. Painter Smolin.


All taken from: http://www.regels.org/Chapt.IV.1.htm

The Orthodox Church (and Islam) proved itself to be a firm supporter of the Soviet Union and was protected by the state for most of the Soviet Union's existence, the rootless Catholics and Protestants were trouble-makers, unpatriotic and rightfully regarded as undeseriables.

[Boleslaw]

Yeah I guess the advantage of being Orthodox is you're given full privledge to spam and derail other peoples' threads. :rolleyes:

[Boleslaw]

The Orthodox Church (and Islam) proved itself to be a firm supporter of the Soviet Union and was protected by the state for most of the Soviet Union's existence, the rootless Catholics and Protestants were trouble-makers, unpatriotic and rightfully regarded as undeseriables.

Wonderful news for us Catholics.

[Nikolai]

Yeah I guess the advantage of being Orthodox is you're given full privledge to spam and derail other peoples' threads. :rolleyes:

And I guess the advantage of being a papist is eating garlicky foods all the time and not having to confess your sins before Communion.

:owned:

[Evil_shah]

The Images alone made me sick

[Boleslaw]

And I guess the advantage of being a papist is eating garlicky foods all the time and not having to confess your sins before Communion.

:owned:
Yeah ok. Go to a Polish church and you'll find long lines for confession, even during the service. I remember missing out on communion one time because I waited so long for confession.

And the only thing preventing me from taking communion at Orthodox churches was my respect for your church's teachings. Otherwise I could've easily mixed right in and taken it.

So go ahead and venerate your St. Uncle Joe.

[Königin Luise von Preußen]

(With his leadership and militaristic heroism aside, Stalin does not deserve to be even considered for sainthood, since he was an atheist and killed many Orthodox. This shouldn't be taken too seriously.)

[CENTER]Saint Joseph Stalin
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seriously, why do you open such a nonsense thread here in the high-brow section?

:nuts: this board degenerates day by day a bit more with such jesters.

[Commander]

This is a spam thread, it belongs in the Lounge.

[Nikolai]

And the only thing preventing me from taking communion at Orthodox churches was my respect for your church's teachings. Otherwise I could've easily mixed right in and taken it.



You would have only been hurting yourself then, not the church.

[Commander]

Saint Nikolai Yezhov

Physically, Yezhov was very short in stature (only five foot, or 151 cm) - and that, combined with his sadistic personality led to his nickname 'The Poisoned Dwarf' or 'The Bloody Dwarf'.

[...]

He became People's Commissar for Internal Affairs (head of the NKVD) and a member of the Presidium Central Executive Committee on September 26, 1936, following the dismissal of Genrikh Yagoda. Yezhov's first task from Stalin was to personally investigate and conduct the prosecution of his long-time Chekist mentor Yagoda, which he did with remorseless zeal, fabricating the evidence necessary to see him condemned to execution as a traitor. As an additional insult, Yezhov ordered Yagoda to be stripped naked and severely beaten by the guards at the Lubyanka before his execution.

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