Lutheran Immigration & Refugee Service

[Boleslaw]

Note to Lenny, Fade, Keikel, and other people who bash the Catholic Church when concerning immigration(in favor of Protestantism); you may want to consider the positions taken by other denominations before bashing Catholics. Especially you Lenny, take care of your own church before bashing mine! :mad:


http://www.lirs.org/

I love this part:


Help for 280,000+ of All Races and Religions

LIRS early on moved beyond serving only Lutheran Europeans to all refugees, "regardless of national origin, race, religion, culture or legal status." The 280,000 refugees resettled in 60 years through affiliated regional offices have come from all over the globe and practice a variety of faiths. In 1999 in resettling 13,177 refugees, LIRS became the second largest of the 10 voluntary agencies that handle this work in the United States on behalf of the government. The United States Catholic Conference is the first.

[Kodos]

These people should be lined up and shot too but

1) These are minor players compared to the catholic church

2) Catholics like you are not willing to acknowledge the problems with your own churches and withdraw support from them, Protestants generally will

3) Lenny is with the more conservative Lutheran synod, hes mentioned this one before

[Boleslaw]

2) Catholics like you are not willing to acknowledge the problems with your own churches and withdraw support from them, Protestants generally will

You know thats quite hilarious, since I had a discussion this morning with several parishoners at the church I attended about this, and how many of them have had to go around to several parishes in order to find one that was decent.

[Kodos]

You know thats quite hilarious, since I had a discussion this morning with several parishoners at the church I attended about this, and how many of them have had to go around to several parishes in order to find one that was decent.

Are they still giving them a dime, you contribute a dime to any parish in the catholic church and it goes right to the archdiosese to do whatever it wants like run the ratlines for wetbacks.

I'm talking about quitting altogether.

[Keystone]

These people should be lined up and shot too but

1) These are minor players compared to the catholic church

2) Catholics like you are not willing to acknowledge the problems with your own churches and withdraw support from them, Protestants generally will

3) Lenny is with the more conservative Lutheran synod, hes mentioned this one before
1) Ya, but that's no excuse

2) There's no place else to go. We could complain to the bishops, but it doesn't do much good.

3) I'm pretty certain the dirty deeds are done by the ELCA. They plopped down 120 or so Somalis here.

Lenny's probably Missouri Synod.

[Kodos]

2) There's no place else to go. We could complain to the bishops, but it doesn't do much good.

Leave and stop donating money, teach your kids about the evil of the whore of Rome as the WASPs( and northern american Krauts) have for generations so that they'll never come back.

[Keystone]

2) There's no place else to go. We could complain to the bishops, but it doesn't do much good.

Leave and stop donating money, teach your kids about the evil of the whore of Rome as the WASPs( and northern american Krauts) have for generations so that they'll never come back.
That would be a mortal sin...:nono:

Catholics used to be just as racist as everyone else. The bishops had less power in those days.

[Lenny]

280,000 refugees resettled in 60 yearsI know for a fact that something upwards of one-third of those 280,000 were post-WWII European Lutherans who were displaced refugees after the war and were resettled in the US with the help of the US Lutheran churches.

In 1999 in resettling 13,177 refugees, LIRS became the second largest of the 10 voluntary agencies that handle this work in the United States on behalf of the government. They cite that 1999 figure because it is the highest they ever attained since the the immediate post-WWII era. It is typically much less than that, maybe 3,000 a year on average. The Catholics do 10-15 times that per year, by the way.

But the immigration problem is much bigger than a few tens of thousands of refugees per year. Regular immigration is much more significant. With regard to regular immigration, ask yourself the following questions: What religion are the great majority of immigrants, i.e. what church would they likely be affiliated with? What church has a strong self-interest in seeing open immigration, amnesties, "rights" for illegals, etc? What church has again and again shown itself to be strongly supportive of mass immigration that benefits itself at the expense of the country? What church spends millions of dollars a year aiding hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants and lobbying hard for immigration/open-borders? If you answered "The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America" (your enemy of the moment) to any of the above, then you fail the test.

3) I'm pretty certain the dirty deeds are done by the ELCA. They plopped down 120 or so Somalis here."Catholic Charities is the social service arm of the Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh. The organization has resettled some 10,000 refugees from all over the world to the Pittsburgh area since starting its Refugee Services Program in 1975. Individuals and families have fled their native countries because of war and other conditions, such as racial, political or religious persecution." http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_270414.html

[Keystone]

"Catholic Charities is the social service arm of the Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh. The organization has resettled some 10,000 refugees from all over the world to the Pittsburgh area since starting its Refugee Services Program in 1975. Individuals and families have fled their native countries because of war and other conditions, such as racial, political or religious persecution." http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_270414.html
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[Dan Dare]

Catholic Charities and the LIRS appear to be engaged in an unseemly competition with the HIAS about who can do most to facilitate the infiltration of the largest number of undesirables into America in the shortest possible period.

A plague on all their houses.

[Lenny]

Catholic Charities and the LIRS appear to be engaged in an unseemly competition with the HIAS about who can do most to facilitate the infiltration of the largest number of undesirables into America in the shortest possible period.It's no contest. The Catholics are much worse, in number directly brought into the country, and especially in all they do to facilitate general immigration, keep the borders open, aid&abet illegals. Considering that most Protestants and Protestant churches oppose immigration and those that do support it do so far less than the Catholics, Protestant churches are not really a problem at all. I would really say that Protestants are the good guys here, but I am biased. (Also keep in mind the US is a Protestant country)

[Starr]

Protestant churches are not really a problem at all.

Minneapolis and St. Paul are full of the lovely results of this non-problem.

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2004/06/07_baxtera_somalitaxi/images/mohamandfriend1_large.jpg

[Kodos]

Minneapolis and St. Paul are full of the lovely results of this non-problem.

There is probably some truth to Jack Chick's( kook that he is) theory that the catholic church has worked on infiltrating mainstream protestant denominations. Ecumenism can only benefit the catholic church so its hard for me to fathom that the national/world council of churches came about without some influence in that direction.

I acknowledge this theory could be completely wrong as it flies in the face of Occam's Razor and has no concrete evidence to substaniate it.

[Lenny]

Minneapolis and St. Paul are full of the lovely results of this non-problem.Again, the Catholics are 10 to 15x worse when speaking about direct resettlement, and many tens of times worse when you include the other factors mentioend in other my other post. Plus, organized opposition to immigration comes mainly from Protestants which more than offsets the pro-immigrationism from the liberal wing of American Protestantism

There is probably some truth to Jack Chick's( kook that he is) theory that the catholic church has worked on infiltrating mainstream protestant denominations. Ecumenism can only benefit the catholic church so its hard for me to fathom that the national/world council of churches came about without some influence in that direction.It is not just his theory. It is well known that the Catholics are heavily involved in promoting the ecumenical movement