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Graves
01-03-2010, 11:32 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/catalonia-votes-to-ban-bullfighting-1855945.html
Independent 1/3/2010


Catalonia votes to ban bullfighting

Bloodthirsty 'sport' is dying a slow death across Spain, as younger audiences turn away

By Alasdair Fotheringham in Madrid
Already faced with a rapidly ageing fanbase at home and widespread incomprehension and rejection abroad, Spanish bullfighting has suffered another major setback after the Catalan parliament voted to outlaw it completely across the region.

The decision was so controversial that some deputies hunched over their desks to hide their fingers from photographers as they punched in their votes. After a narrow initial victory for the abolitionists – 67 in favour and 59 against – the law could become effective as soon as May.

Spain's right-wing press was quick to attribute the result to Catalan separatists' desire to dissociate themselves from an activity often considered as typically Spanish as tapas, siestas and flamenco. Unofficially, though, even before Friday's decision, it seems bullfighting circles in the rest of Spain had given Catalonia up as a lost cause.

Over the past three decades, bullring after bullring has closed in major Catalan towns such as Gerona, Lloret de Mar and Tarragona, and in Barcelona only one of the original three rings remains. As far back as 1909, Barcelona hosted Spain's first anti-bullfighting protest, and by 2004 more than 80 per cent of Catalans were opposed to the practice. "Banning the bulls in Catalonia would be like drawing up a death certificate for a long-dead corpse," said Juan Ilian, a leading Spanish bullfighting correspondent for nearly five decades. "And even if they don't, it'll remain on its deathbed."

Animal rights groups amassed 180,000 signatures for a petition so that the vote could go ahead in Catalonia – more than three times the required minimum – but even the lobby's top activists are not sure how quickly the ban could extend to the rest of Spain. Antonio Moreno, president of Cacma, an animal rights association in the bullfighting heartland of Andalusia, said: "An overwhelming majority of Spaniards, 76 per cent according to Gallup surveys in 2009, are not in favour of bullfighting. However, only half that total want outright prohibition. The government promised six years ago to improve animal welfare laws, but it's been dragging its heels. It's only through legislation like in Catalonia that things are changing."

A lack of enthusiasm for bullfighting among younger generations is most likely to deliver the estocada – the killer blow, in bullfighting terminology. A recent survey showed bullfighting to be most popular among Spaniards in the 45-plus age group. And Spanish state television, TVE, has dropped it permanently from its schedule because, an inside source at TVE said, "it was considered too bloodthirsty for children to watch".

"It's not necessarily that younger Spaniards are more in favour of animal rights, they just don't care so much about bullfighting," Johanna Mayrhofer, an Austrian long-term Spanish resident and animal rights activist, said. "Bullfighting isn't part of their day-to-day culture, as it was for nearly all Spaniards a few decades back."

Long-term observers such as Mr Ilian recognise that while support for bullfighting remains healthy in strongholds such as Andalusia and Madrid, its mid-term prospects are grimmer. "There's a dedicated minority who follow it closely, and some bullfighters have a huge media presence, like rock or film stars, but the vast majority of spectators who go to a bullfight these days have no idea which fighter they're going to see," he said. "Instead, it's just become a show, and interest among the general public is dropping."

"It was banned in the Canary Islands in the mid-1990s, but there was already very little support there," Mr Moreno added. "This is the first big step on mainland Spain."

Ambrosio Spinola
01-03-2010, 02:56 PM
France and Portugal have also bullfighting.

Personally I have never been to one of these events. Might have to before they close down this worthy inheritor of the Bestiarii of ancient rome or the Bull jumping of Crete. With its demise we will also see the disapearance of the last truly wild bulls in western europe who had been kept like this for milenia without breading their fightlust out.

Graves
01-03-2010, 03:26 PM
France and Portugal have also bullfighting.

Personally I have never been to one of these events. Might have to before they close down this worthy inheritor of the Bestiarii of ancient rome or the Bull jumping of Crete. With its demise we will also see the disapearance of the last truly wild bulls in western europe who had been kept like this for milenia without breading their fightlust out.

No more bullfight in Spain? The world is coming to an end. :munch:

Jake Featherston
01-03-2010, 05:18 PM
If bullfighting is losing its popularity, they should allow it to die a natural death, rather than force it out via legislation. Its not one of my favourite traditions, but it is an authentic, organic European cultural custom, and shouldn't be forcibly banned. I'd like to see one before I die, just out of curiosity.

We actually have a form of non-lethal bullfighting that occurs in the small town of Gustine, not too far from San Jose (90 minute drive, over a mountain pass). Its a Portuguese thing around here (not Mexican).

Graves
01-03-2010, 05:39 PM
If bullfighting is losing its popularity, they should allow it to die a natural death, rather than force it out via legislation. Its not one of my favourite traditions, but it is an authentic, organic European cultural custom, and shouldn't be forcibly banned. I'd like to see one before I die, just out of curiosity.

We actually have a form of non-lethal bullfighting that occurs in the small town of Gustine, not too far from San Jose (90 minute drive, over a mountain pass). Its a Portuguese thing around here (not Mexican).You can always see one in Mexico. Only diff is they don't kill the bull down there.

Jake Featherston
01-03-2010, 06:16 PM
You can always see one in Mexico. Only diff is they don't kill the bull down there.

All in all, its probably more likely I'll find myself in Spain one day, then that I'll ever return to Mexico.

Graves
01-03-2010, 07:20 PM
All in all, its probably more likely I'll find myself in Spain one day, then that I'll ever return to Mexico.Do I sense a story here?

Charlie Robespierre
01-03-2010, 07:25 PM
France and Portugal have also bullfighting.

Personally I have never been to one of these events. Might have to before they close down this worthy inheritor of the Bestiarii of ancient rome or the Bull jumping of Crete. With its demise we will also see the disapearance of the last truly wild bulls in western europe who had been kept like this for milenia without breading their fightlust out.I didn't know France had that tradition. It'll take 50 years current trends to pry bullfighting Iberia by my reckoning. It's a beloved sport.

Petr
01-03-2010, 08:39 PM
I have never been any friend of "animal rights", but bullfighting has still struck me a somewhat pointless sport. I don't see anything particularly romantic or heroic about it.


Petr

Graves
01-03-2010, 08:45 PM
I have never been any friend of "animal rights", but bullfighting has still struck me a somewhat pointless sport. I don't see anything particularly romantic or heroic about it.
Petr

Even more pointless are such past times as dog baiting and cock fighting.

Felix the Cat
01-03-2010, 10:15 PM
Old discussion on this:

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9101

Even more pointless are such past times as dog baiting and cock fighting.
Bullbaiting would be the English equivalent of this. Both activities started out in the same way, as a normal part of the butchery of dangerous bovines. Only later did they become sports.