Is racism a mental disorder?

[Sluggo892]

Is racism a mental disorder?

By Angie Meus

Published: Sunday, February 14, 2010

Racism is an issue that many people try to avoid, although it is something that still exists today. Can racism be tied to something deeper than a difference in skin tone, perhaps, a mental illness?

The issue was first raised 40 years ago by a group of black psychiatrists who asked the American Psychiatric Association to classify forms of extreme bigotry and prejudice as a mental disorder.

The APA rejected their request on the grounds that racism is a “cultural and social problem and cannot be attributed to any disorder.”

The APA also said that labeling racism as a mental illness will not do anything to rid society of the problem and doing so will carry too many political implications.This has remained the general consensus.

Recently, some psychiatrists argue that the notion deserves a second look. “To continue perceiving extreme racism as normative and not pathologic is to lend it legitimacy. Clearly, anyone who scapegoats a whole group of people and seeks to eliminate them to resolve his or her internal conflicts meets criteria for a delusional disorder, a major psychiatric illness,” said Alvin F. Poussaint, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard University.

Not recognizing racism as a mental illness seems to legitimize it. According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders IV, a mental disorder is defined as a behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual and that is associated with present distress or with a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom.

The manual also goes on to say that in order for a syndrome to be classified as a mental illness it must be considered a manifestation of a behavioral, psychological, or biological dysfunction in the individual. Neither deviant behavior nor conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict is a symptom of a dysfunction in the individual.”

From that definition, Adolf Hitler, who exterminated six million Jewish people was simply at conflict with the Jewish people and not the fact that they existed.

This would mean that the Hitler did suffer from some type of pathological disorder.

The question of Hitler’s mental health has been the center of controversy for years and a clear diagnosis from those who studied his psyche could have resulted in a deeper look into the minds of Hitler and others like him.

It is time for the APA to reevaluate the seriousness of racism.


"Racism" (ie the preference for one's own) isn't a mental disorder.

It is the hatred for people that would rather not miscegenate that is a mental disorder. Or, the promotion of different races over one's own that is a mental disorder.

[Monty]

Is anti-racism a mental disorder?

[Starr]

Recently, some psychiatrists argue that the notion deserves a second look. “To continue perceiving extreme racism as normative and not pathologic is to lend it legitimacy. Clearly, anyone who scapegoats a whole group of people and seeks to eliminate them to resolve his or her internal conflicts meets criteria for a delusional disorder, a major psychiatric illness,” said Alvin F. Poussaint, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard University.

What internal conflicts? Are these the same kind of conflicts that we hear about when someone says people who oppose the homosexual agenda are unsure of their own sexuality? In other words kosher approved psycho babble that has no proof or basis in reality but has become accepted as fact?

Shall we assume than the founders of this country, our ancestors and so many average people and leaders who lived before a time when the myth of racial equality was accepted were mentally ill? Also are other peoples including jews mentally ill when they go to bat for their own and think in terms of us vs them? Or does this only apply (which is what seems to be the case) to white gentiles?

What is extreme racism?

[Starr]

Is anti-racism a mental disorder?


http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=61161

[harjit]

Is anti-racism a mental disorder?
You bet!

:whiner: :tard2: :yay: :borg: :cokehead: :tease: :naughty: :jam: (vader) (sm) :negro:

[Jake Featherston]

One thing is for sure: If they succeed in getting (White) racial awareness officially deemed as a mental disorder, that won't stop them from continuing to heap scorn & hatred upon (White) racialists, and to continue to stigmatize them as immoral, ignorant, stupid, "toothless rednecks living in broken down trailers," etc. Pedophiles receive more sympathy from the psychiatric establishment.

Why bother to characterize something as an illness, if you're going to treat the people you believe suffer from it in the precise same manner as you did prior to determining they are mentally ill?

[Nemesis]

One thing is for sure: If they succeed in getting (White) racial awareness officially deemed as a mental disorder, that won't stop them from continuing to heap scorn & hatred upon (White) racialists, and to continue to stigmatize them as immoral, ignorant, stupid, "toothless rednecks living in broken down trailers," etc. Pedophiles receive more sympathy from the psychiatric establishment.

Why bother to characterize something as an illness, if you're going to treat the people you believe suffer from it in the precise same manner as you did prior to determining they are mentally ill?

That may not be the case in the long run. People may come to view it as just something to be pitied. But either way it's no good for anyone who values free speech, free thought, and individual rights. And anyone who claims to value these things but supports such a classification would be a complete idiot because they could be next. What's going to be the next taboo subject they don't want you to touch on? And how long before they claim you're screwy? If it came down to a debate, I don't think even us loathed "racists" would have any problem appealing to reason here. It's not hard to understand, it's a slippery slope.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Not noticing differences in people is the mental disorder.
I think there's actually a thread recently about a group of kids with a rare disorder that makes them fail to notice differences. In the wild, such a disorder would lead to the extinction of a species.

[Jake Featherston]

anyone who claims to value these things but supports such a classification would be a complete idiot

Does anyone like that actually exist?

[Nemesis]

Does anyone like that actually exist?

People that claim to value those things? Yes, definitely.

[cerberus]

Being aware of differences is something very primitive which dwells within us , when it dominates your thinking it is then that it becomes a problem.

[sugartits]

Racism-as-mental illness could be a good scapegoat for racism-as-criminal. BUT it would stop being funny when it becomes grounds for institutionalization, the only difference is it's in the nut house instead of the grey bar hotel.

[Golobulus]

Clearly, anyone who scapegoats a whole group of people and seeks to eliminate them to resolve his or her internal conflicts meets criteria for a delusional disorder

The only people I know who act this way, Angie Meus for example, are Politically Correct/Liberals/Progressives, who behave this way towards anyone who is White and not Politically Correct.


The issue was first raised 40 years ago by a group of black psychiatrists who asked the American Psychiatric Association to classify forms of extreme bigotry and prejudice as a mental disorder.

Yes. So this is nothing but politically motivated attacks against Whites.


Not recognizing racism as a mental illness seems to legitimize it

Classifying "racism” as a mental illness is to further legitimise hatred of the white race.

[Golobulus]

Being aware of differences is something very primitive which dwells within us , when it dominates your thinking it is then that it becomes a problem.
This is perhaps the single most stupid statement made of all time.

[Dreadnought]

Being aware of differences is something very primitive which dwells within us , when it dominates your thinking it is then that it becomes a problem.

A bit of a non sequitur, and anyway pattern recognition isn't primitive. It's the foundation of science for one thing!

[Monty]

A bit of a non sequitur, and anyway pattern recognition isn't primitive. It's the foundation of science for one thing!

Philosophy and evolutionary biology tell us that the patterns we see may not reflect reality, but merely our desire to recognize order. This is the great paradox of modernity.

[MrAngry]

You bet!

:whiner: :tard2: :yay: :borg: :cokehead: :tease: :naughty: :jam: (vader) (sm) :negro:


You'd have to be a bit mad hanging around racialist types on the netz.

[Felix the Cat]

Philosophy and evolutionary biology tell us that the patterns we see may not reflect reality, but merely our desire to recognize order. This is the great paradox of modernity.
Eh, what is "reality"? There is no such thing outside of the "patterns we see".

[Remote]

Racists don't hate. Why hate that which is your inferior simply for being your inferior? Now that would be a mental disorder.

To wit:

"Hate" is just a Jewish language game that tries to de-legitimize anyone else's feelings of superiority as irrational and insane, while it hopes to affect an intellectual legitimacy through a snap diagnosis, before the matter can even be reasoned over.

They do this, of course, to assure their own superiority.

[cerberus]

Dreadnought

pattern recognition isn't primitive.

It really does not have anything to do with patterns , it has to do with identifying that someone is not the same as me - in terms of colour or appearance it is pretty basic and instinctive.
The thinking which stems from perceived differences can be pretty crude and ugly - colour is not the only key.

Golobulus

This is perhaps the single most stupid statement made of all time.

Why thank you , but then again I don't invest much time in being a racist , racists generally don't agree that they are being stupid - their beliefs are reasonable to them , you see I have seen similar comments made between white and non white races and I think it is all pretty stupid - being racist is not a white only reserve for black and Asians can be equally racists and not only against whites.
Whites can turn on "whites" for various reasons - that is the nature of prejudice it knows no boundaries and it is employed by all and it is oh so sensible and reasonable....and that is what makes it all so pointless and stupid.
By the way - when it comes to being racist or prejudiced - I don't mind being called stupid.

[Dreadnought]

I hate this beer I'm drinking, because it looks different to me. DIE BEER!

[Morgan]

Being aware of differences is something very primitive which dwells within us , when it dominates your thinking it is then that it becomes a problem.


agreed

my baby is 1/4 Carribbean, which I actually see as a positive, ie she is a little prettier than her cousins

I don't however see it as a disadvantage in terms of education etc

She's a bright and clever little girl, as clever as her cousins ( all white by the way), just a little colour that adds to her to overall appearance

But maybe her brightness comes from my input into her

[Crowley]

Racism and anti-racism are a couple of vague abstractions used to attack whites politically. It nothing more than politics, or 1 chimp colony screeching at another, more established chimp colony in the forest.

[Morpheus]

Racism is not a mental disorder. At one point in time most people in the West had racist views and their culture reflected this.

I do believe that alot of hardcore racists however have mental and personality disorders that effect their behavior.

[Dreadnought]

Racism is not a mental disorder. At one point in time most people in the West had racist views and their culture reflected this.

I do believe that alot of hardcore racists however have mental and personality disorders that effect their behavior.

The same would logically apply to the "white privilege" crowd, or…

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_02/slaveTMOS2403_228x454.jpg

[Prybylowski]

To equate all unconventional opinions and behaviors with some form of individual-level psychopathology is such a remarkably simplistic way of viewing the world, not to mention unnecessarily reductionistic. The fact of the matter is that there is nothing wrong with ethnocentrism, provided it is based on logic and hard empirical data.

[New Dawner]

The same would logically apply to the "white privilege" crowd, or…

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_02/slaveTMOS2403_228x454.jpg

Bahahahah (@ the picture)! What a pathetic moron!

It's even arguable that Colonialism wasn't even "white", but instead was Freemasonic and Jewish. In short, something spearheaded by the Elites and they justified it to the populace that actually has conscience and morals by saying they were helping these other people, they needed assistance, they needed to be brought into the Body of Christ etc. These days the argument is made about spreading democracy, etc.

The very same reasons for why the masses were successfully brainwashed and fooled by the Elites into thinking Colonialism was a moral enterprise is the exact same reason the masses today grovel like this idiot.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

Truly, ignoring distinctions and failing to appreciate differences in God's creation -- is the mental disorder if there's a mental disorder.

It's mental disorder created by Jews through psychological conditioning that relies on the White Gentile need to feel noble and "progressive."

And that's that.

[Prybylowski]

I blame the Frankfurt School of Social Criticism for demonizing "racism" as a form of mental illness, especially the Jew Theodor Adorno who defined "racism" as a pathological expression of the "Authoritarian personality disorder" which could be easily diagnosed by means of an "F-scale."

The universal propensity towards ethnocentrism found in all cultures continues to exist even today because of the evolutionary advantages having such a frame of mind conferred in the distant past. In Upper Paleolithic times, being suspicious of outsiders enabled one to optimally maximize one's chances of survival in a cruel and brutish society, when one could be killed at any moment, by either men or the forces of nature; it was the success of those who were most xenophobic which enabled them to procreate successfully in adulthood, subsequently facilitating the proliferation of such traits throughout the general population at large. Those who were least xenophobic and most trusting of foreigners died out for obvious reasons, which is why non-ethnocentric tendencies are so rare in contemporary human populations.

[Aragorn]

Is anti-racism a mental disorder?

Yes! It definately is.

[Vindex]

I believe being a Juggalo is a mental disorder. I note Juggalo's promote an anti-racist ideology while painted up as wigger, assclowns. Probably saying something about anti-racism in general.

[Monty]

I blame the Frankfurt School of Social Criticism for demonizing "racism" as a form of mental illness, especially the Jew Theodor Adorno who defined "racism" as a pathological expression of the "Authoritarian personality disorder" which could be easily diagnosed by means of an "F-scale."

The Frankfurters didn't invent PC. They developed a system for using social engineering to punish normal behavior.

[Dr. Alan James]

What I find interesting is that most people accept the fact that breeding and genetics are important with plants and animals but they won't apply it to human genetics.
That's why people will pay $ millions of dollars for a race horse from a champion bloodline, but think that all human races are the same.

[harjit]

What I find interesting is that most people accept the fact that breeding and genetics are important with plants and animals but they won't apply it to human genetics.
That's why people will pay $ millions of dollars for a race horse from a champion bloodline, but think that all human races are the same.
Animals and plants are considered property. Humans are considered free agents whose will is to be honoured.

[Jewbacca]

Racism is the expression of a healthy self-image and race consciousness is normal. What's truly sick is anti-racism. People who tolerate kneegrows, spics and pakis are emotionally stunted, mentally disturbed creatures.

[Dr. Alan James]

Animals and plants are considered property. Humans are considered free agents whose will is to be honoured.

So that negates my point??

[Thomas_Sankara]

I seriously think racism is a mental disorder, but moreso, a mental disorder that the powerful elite use to turn people who would otherwise have a common interest against each other.

[harjit]

So that negates my point??
That's up to you.

You remarked that something is interesting. I offered my 2 cents worth on why it may be the case.

[Dead Eye]

Racism is nothing more then racial recognition of ones own kind.
Of course,those who try and say that its a mental disorder are the Jews who openly call themselves the chosen RACE and are openly trying to exterminate white people.

Ironic in my opinion.