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Sluggo892
06-18-2010, 09:53 PM
Younger People Are Fundamentally Less Concerned with Race, Putting the Republicans on the Defensive

Why conservatives are shuddering with apocalyptic anxiety about generational trends.

June 11, 2010

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I spent Memorial Day in New Orleans, where I watched a group of citizens lay a wreath at the foot of a statue of Jefferson Davis. It was a jarring reminder of how the South understands American history. Memorial Day was founded after the Civil War to honor Union soldiers. When Southerners choose to memorialize Confederate leaders, it is an act of subversive historical revision and an indication of the unresolved political and cultural anxieties that stir just below the surface of the "New South."

The white New Orleanians paying their respects to Davis made me nervous. Few things disgusted Confederates more than property-owning women, free blacks and evidence of miscegenation. I am all of these, so I feel the very legitimacy of my citizenship is challenged by their nostalgia. But I noticed that those gathered at the monument appeared to be mostly senior citizens. In contrast, young New Orleanians were hanging out in integrated groups in the park, listening to music, drinking beer and worrying about how the impending hurricane season would affect the BP oil disaster.

The generational divide in how these Southerners spent Memorial Day was jarring and instructive. In May, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed a bill cutting state funding to schools that offer classes "designed primarily for students of a particular ethnic group" or "advocating ethnic solidarity." The law aims to ban ethnic studies curriculums and implies that classes in African-American history or Latino literature are dangerous and discriminatory. Then the Texas State Board of Education voted to introduce a considerably more conservative slant to the social studies curriculum. In the revised Texas version of history, there is an increased emphasis on Phyllis Schlafly, segregationist George Wallace and the National Rifle Association, while the United Nations is presented as an enemy of American sovereignty and the separation of church and state is reduced to an ideological suggestion rather than a constitutional mandate.

The celebration of Confederate traitors as American heroes, the whitewash of school curriculums and the conservative reinterpretation of national history are weapons in America's decades-long culture war. These policies reflect an impulse similar to the Cultural Revolution of Communist China: an attempt to gain authority by controlling the very definitions of truth available to young people. After all, it is among young Americans that conservatives are losing this war, and if they are serious about taking back their country, the education of American youth is the critical terrain where they plan to make a stand.

Young Americans are significantly different from their older counterparts. At the end of the Clinton administration a majority of young Americans strongly supported multicultural education and believed that the government should ensure integrated schools and workplaces. In the year George W. Bush was re-elected, an overwhelming majority of young Americans believed gay men and lesbians should have equal protection in housing and employment and should be protected under hate crimes legislation. Barack Obama garnered two of every three votes cast by people under 30. Across parties, ideologies, regions and religions, young people are less likely to subscribe to racial stereotypes, more likely to support legal equality for gay Americans and more likely to believe tolerance is an important ideal. These enduring generational trends have prompted some observers to question the long-term viability of the GOP -- which seems to be growing older but not grander.

These statistics are comforting for progressives, who tend to believe that generational replacement will be enough to usher in a new liberal majority. They wax poetic about how the Obama generation -- young people coming of age with a black president, female secretary of state and Hispanic justice of the Supreme Court -- will undoubtedly extend the social safety net, end discriminatory state practices and create a more just nation. But the differences between younger and older Americans are neither automatic nor inevitable; they are the result of demographic, policy and curricular changes that occurred as the result of protest and struggle in post–civil rights America.

Although poor urban minorities continue to suffer the effects of hyper-segregated communities, young white Americans live in a more diverse world than their parents did as children. More than ever, white children learn in integrated classrooms, have mothers who work outside the home, encounter racial minorities in positions of authority, learn about different religious traditions, read literature by diverse authors, encounter same-sex families as a routine part of the popular culture and have technology-based access to a dizzying array of opinions. These experiences are widely seen as necessary components for contemporary citizenship. In fact, in the aftermath of the Supreme Court's Bollinger decision, the state's compelling interest in ensuring diverse educational environments is the last legal standard on which affirmative action rests.

Social conservatives shudder with apocalyptic anxiety about these generational trends. They understand that the best defense against this frightening, changing world is to wrest control of the historical narrative. To retake the country, they must first reshape young people's reality by revising the meaning of their daily lives. They must make traitors into heroes, erase the contributions of marginal groups, decry self-knowledge as sedition and reinforce fear of those who are different. I'm reminded of the lyrics of a song in South Pacific, Rodgers and Hammerstein's controversial 1949 musical:

You've got to be taught to hate and fear,
You've got to be taught from year to year,
It's got to be drummed in your dear little ear --
You've got to be carefully taught.

Arizona and Texas policy-makers seem to be using the lyrics as a guide to curriculum development, but they may find that the world has already moved beyond their fearful grasp.

http://www.alternet.org/story/147171/younger_people_are_fundamentally_less_concerned_with_race%2C_putting_the_republicans_on_the_defensive?page=entire

Nemesis
06-18-2010, 10:40 PM
When they say "younger people" they mean whites. Nonwhites are usually race-obsessed at all ages.

Julian Curtis Lee
06-18-2010, 11:28 PM
You've got to be carefully taught not to value and love your own people
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be carefully taught to serve Jewish supremacy agendas
You've got to be carefully taught

Jake Featherston
06-18-2010, 11:40 PM
I didn't realize the Republican Party was so pro-White. Guess I need to become a straight-ticket voter. :tard:

harjit
06-19-2010, 01:19 AM
Few things disgusted Confederates more than property-owning women, free blacks and evidence of miscegenation.
In their minds it probably looked like property owning property. :D

Starr
06-19-2010, 01:49 AM
They must make traitors into heroes, erase the contributions of marginal groups, decry self-knowledge as sedition and reinforce fear of those who are different.

This could just as easily be said about the other side but the writer is too brainwashed and/or arrogant to see it. I wasn't aware that lefties encourage people towards truth and thinking outside the box. People like that are often demonized in a similar way as a person who might have been called a heretic in the past. There is also an assumption here that these young people will stay just as they are now politically as they mature.

Starr
06-19-2010, 01:52 AM
I didn't realize the Republican Party was so pro-White. Guess I need to become a straight-ticket voter. :tard:


Wouldn't it be great if they were even half right about all of the things that they say about the Republican party? I wonder how many people truly think in the way you joke about here? How many people remain convinced that the republican party is the white man's party because lefties cry about this so often? I suspect there are quite a few.

Sluggo892
06-19-2010, 02:01 AM
The author's obsession with the opinions of young white Americans shows that she is trying to manipulate/define public opinion, rather than objectively report it. She also doesn't discuss whether black people are fundamentally less concerned with race.

harjit
06-19-2010, 02:19 AM
The author's obsession with the opinions of young white Americans shows that she is trying to manipulate/define public opinion, rather than objectively report it. She also doesn't discuss whether black people are fundamentally less concerned with race.
It was clearly a partisan opinion piece taking a potshot the Republicans, and didn't appear to pose as otherwise.

Vindex
06-19-2010, 02:25 AM
This is a bullshit farticle, Whites are waking up to race more then ever. With Buckwheat in office, tens of millions of hostile browns pouring across the boarders and jewry and it's sham system being exposed daily and the growing backlash against PC. The best they can do is fantasy like this.

Sluggo892
06-19-2010, 02:28 AM
It was clearly a partisan opinion piece taking a potshot the Republicans, and didn't appear to pose as otherwise.Close. The author was attempting to claim that young whites aren't concerned about race and therefore, won't be voting Republican in the future. She obviously never heard the saying:

If you're 20 and you're not a liberal you have no heart
If you're 40 and you're not a conservative you have no brain


Plus she left out the part about young blacks not being concerned about race.

il ragno
06-19-2010, 09:56 PM
Memorial Day was founded after the Civil War to honor Union soldiers. When Southerners choose to memorialize Confederate leaders, it is an act of subversive historical revision and an indication of the unresolved political and cultural anxieties that stir just below the surface of the "New South."

I stopped reading here.

Reality: for 100-odd years it was understood and accepted that the south would memorialize their dead (on FUCKING MEMORIAL DAY!!!). Nobody expected any less, even us Yankees understood that for the South to do otherwise would be unconscionable.


I find this harpy's tone, however, even more grating than her by-now drearily predictable ideological niggerhuggery. But I'm happy to say she's whistling past the graveyard regarding Southern kids, most of whom can be and are perfectly pleasant to blacks in a casual public setting (as most of us are) without mixing with them, or particularly feeling compelled to. It's not "race hate", it's a commendable resistance to being goaded into "race love".

Jake Featherston
06-19-2010, 10:15 PM
I'm happy to say she's whistling past the graveyard regarding Southern kids, most of whom can be and are perfectly pleasant to blacks in a casual public setting (as most of us are) without mixing with them, or particularly feeling compelled to. It's not "race hate", it's a commendable resistance to being goaded into "race love".

Yeah, here in Northern California, one occasionally runs into the stunningly beautiful, seemingly intelligent, charming, and otherwise delightful young lady...who's pushing around some nigger's bastard in a stroller. But down South, only lowlife scum White women (outside a few urban Hellholes like Atlanta, where its probably mainly "corporate"-type women who migrated their for employment purposes) have anything to do with jiggaboos. Familiarity really does breed a species of contempt down in those parts. Black men are seen as, well, what they are ie., unfortunate-looking clowns who are work shy, hygiene deficient, and prone to adultery, domestic violence, drug addiction & alcoholism. Not too difficult for the Southern belle to take a pass in that context.

Crowley
06-20-2010, 12:20 AM
Younger people are fundamentally less knowledgeable about the world in general which changes as younger people become older people. I seriously doubt that the younger people of today are any less racially conscious than the younger people of yesteryear. A person isn't born wise, that comes with experience.

Petr
06-20-2010, 04:21 AM
Blogger "Vox Day" has expressed some frank opinions about the "yoots":

The ignorant youf


These results from a recent Pew Survey are precisely why I am so often amused when atheists point to the lower percentage of religious belief among the young compared to the elderly as a sign of anything but the inexperience and ignorance of youth. While it is true that a few of the idiot teens of today will be the influential decision makers of tomorrow, they are as unlikely to retain their political, religious, and philosophical attitudes as they are to retain their hairstyles and drinking habits.

There is, after all, something that will happen to these 18-29 cretins. It is called experience of the real world. The opinions of maleducated ignoramuses who have been purposefully sheltered from not only real economics, real decision making, real independence, and real work, but from the benefit of the experience of the best minds in human history as well, are no more relevant than the opinions of the millions of hamsters kept as pets in America's households.

Of course the 18-29 crowd is pro-progressive and uncertain about whether socialism is to be preferred to capitalism. They've been indoctrinated by anti-capitalist progressives for between 12 and 18 years without ever being forced to knowingly confront the consequences of progressive politics and socialist economics. But their opinion about capitalism is no more significant than their opinion about gravity or the universal principle of entropy; as Greece is learning, you can vote for all the progressive politics you want but eventually the market forces you deny will swamp you in the end.

It's not just the youth who are fools, though. The general dichotomy between the dislike for militias and the support for state and civil rights underlines what everyone here already knows. Most people are idiots.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2010/05/ignorant-youf.html


Without agreeing with every viewpoint of Day's, I think un-PC conservatives should not hesitate to express some amount of healthy contempt for the opinions of unexperienced youngsters.

I consider even myself much better educated now than I was when I started to post on Phora in 2004.


Petr

Dreadnought
06-21-2010, 07:42 PM
Without agreeing with every viewpoint of Day's, I think un-PC conservatives should not hesitate to express some amount of healthy contempt for the opinions of unexperienced youngsters.

The problem is that the older, 'ruling class' has been making a fool of itself for the past while so it's not like one can appeal to them.

Golobulus
06-28-2010, 01:42 AM
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Melissa Harris-Lacewell is Associate Professor of Politics and African American Studies at Princeton University. Her academic research is inspired by a desire to investigate the challenges facing contemporary black Americans and to better understand the multiple, creative ways that African Americans respond to these challenges. She is also an award winning author and appears regularly on MSNBC and other media venues.


She grew up in the Virginia cities of Charlottesville and Chester with a black father, the dean of Afro-American affairs at the University of Virginia; and a white mother, who taught at a community college and worked for nonprofits that helped poor communities. “I’ve never thought of myself as biracial,” Harris-Lacewell says. “I’m black.”

She is the author of Barbershops, Bibles, and BET: Everyday Talk and Black Political Thought on the methods African Americans use to develop political ideas through ordinary conversations in places like barbershops, churches, and popular culture. The work was awarded the 2005 W.E.B. DuBois book award from the National Conference of Black Political Scientists. It is also the winner of the 2005 Best Book Award from the Race and Ethnic Politics Section of the American Political Science Association. Her interests include the study of African American political thought, black religious ideas and practice, and social and clinical psychology.

Crowley
06-28-2010, 02:01 AM
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She grew up in the Virginia cities of Charlottesville and Chester with a black father, the dean of Afro-American affairs at the University of Virginia; and a white mother, who taught at a community college and worked for nonprofits that helped poor communities. “I’ve never thought of myself as biracial,” Harris-Lacewell says. “I’m black.”

She knows perfectly well which side of the bread the affirmative action butter is spread across. And talk about a come-punch-me-face.

harjit
06-28-2010, 09:06 AM
She knows perfectly well which side of the bread the affirmative action butter is spread across.
I wonder if that's all it is, in explaining why biracial people seem to identify with the black side. My guess is that centuries of "one-drop" thinking in America has a lot to do with it also. But it too might not be the whole story.

And talk about a come-punch-me-face.
Oh, behave. Besides, she might like that for all you know.

KingBedlam
07-07-2010, 04:23 PM
Good news.