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Felix the Cat
04-24-2006, 07:06 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/iht/2006/04/24/world/24finn.html

HELSINKI, Finland — They have eight-foot retractable latex Satan wings, sing hits like "Chainsaw Buffet" and blow up slabs of smoking meat on stage. So members of the band Lordi expected a reaction when they beat a crooner of love ballads to represent Finland at the Eurovision song contest in Athens, the competition that was the springboard for Abba and Celine Dion.

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First, Finnish religious leaders warned that the Freddy Krueger look-alikes could inspire Satanic worship. Then critics called for President Tarja Halonen to use her constitutional powers to veto the band and nominate a traditional Finnish folk singer instead. Rumors even circulated that Lordi members were agents sent by President Vladimir V. Putin to destabilize Finland before a Russian coup — an explanation for their refusal to take off their freakish masks in public.

The fury also spread in Greece, winner of last year's Eurovision and therefore the host of this year's contest, where an anti-Lordi movement called Hellenes urged the Finnish government "to say 'no' to this evil group." One young Finn calling himself Suomi (Finland in Finnish) wrote to a newspaper Web log saying, "If Lordi wins Eurovision, I am leaving the country."

The lead singer, Lordi — a former film student who goes by his real name, Tomi Putaansuu, when not wielding a blood-spurting electric chain saw — is philosophical about the uproar.

The affair, Mr. Putaansuu says, has exposed the insecurity of a young country whose peculiar language is spoken by only six million people worldwide and whose sense of identity has been dented by being part of the Swedish kingdom and the Russian empire until gaining independence in 1917. Most Finns, he adds, would rather be known for Santa Claus than heavily made-up monster mutants.

"In Finland, we have no Eiffel Tower, few real famous artists, it is freezing cold and we suffer from low self-esteem," said Mr. Putaansuu, who, as Lordi, has horns protruding from his forehead and sports long black fingernails.

As he stuck out his tongue menacingly, his red demon eyes glaring, Lordi was surrounded by Kita, an alien-man-beast predator who plays flame-spitting drums inside a cage; Awa, a blood-splattered ghost who howls backup vocals; Ox, a zombie bull who plays bass; and Amen, a mummy in a rubber loincloth who plays guitar.

Dragging on a cigarette, Mr. Putaansuu added, "Finns nearly choked on their cereal when they realized we were the face Finland would be showing to the world."

Often derided as a showcase of kitsch, Eurovision is one of the most watched television programs in the world. It pits pop groups from all over Europe and the Middle East against one another, with the winner decided by popular vote by more than 600 million viewers.

It is not the first time the contest, which began in 1956, has spawned discontent. Last year's Ukrainian entry song was rewritten after being deemed too political by government officials in Kiev because it celebrated the Orange Revolution. When Dana International, an Israeli transsexual, won in 1998 with her hit song "Diva," rabbis accused her of flouting the values of the Jewish state.

But not everyone in this Nordic country of five million views the monster squad as un-Finnish. Some Finns say that Lordi is right at home and that the band's use of flaming dragon-encrusted swords and exploding baby dolls expresses the warrior spirit of the Vikings.

Alex Nieminen, a Finnish ad executive, says the band harks back to the Hakkapeliittas, the legendary Finnish cavalry unit that fought as part of the Swedish army in the 17th century. He argues that the slasher film imitators embody Finnish self-assertion after decades of isolation.

"Lordi represents a rebellion by Finns who are saying, 'Hey we are not all the Nokia-wielding people the government would like you to think we are,' " Mr. Nieminen said.

On the eve of the vote, fans in ghoulish monster outfits held Lordi parties from Helsinki to Lapland and sent text messages urging everyone from grandmothers to young metal heads to "Change the face of Finland!" Lordi won the right to go to Athens with its Kiss-inspired anthem "Hard Rock Hallelujah" and its lyrics, "Wings on my back/I got horns on my head/my fangs are sharp/and my eyes are red."

The Finns' fascination for Lordi may reflect their eternal hope after coming in last at Eurovision eight times. Some Finns rank that humiliation with their nation's appeasement of the Soviet Union or losing in hockey to Sweden.

Finns blame their losing streak on the fact that contestants have typically sung in their mother tongue, a famously difficult Uralic language where words with three umlauts are not uncommon.

" 'Finland, zero points' has become a source of deep embarrassment in the nation's psyche," Ilkka Mattila, the country's leading music critic, said. "So Lordi's success must be understood as a vote by people who feel we have nothing to lose."

Finns are so uncomfortable with themselves, says Alexander Stubb, a Finnish member of the European Parliament, that when they meet someone for the first time, they stare at their own feet. Then, after 10 years of friendship, they stare at the other person's feet. But there is little risk that anyone, Finnish or otherwise, will stare at Lordi's furry platform demon boots, he adds, noting that Lordi could embarrass Finland when it takes over the European Union presidency in July.

Timo Soini, leader of "Ordinary Finns," a traditionalist political party from rural Finland, says Lordi has attracted criticism because Finns are so thin-skinned about how others perceive them. "Finns are suspicious when they see someone new come to play in their sandbox," Mr. Soini said. "And that is particularly the case when that someone looks like a monster."

While other boys in Lapland were playing hockey, Mr. Putaansuu played with his Barbie doll and began experimenting with makeup. In film school he became obsessed with horror films and the heavy metal bands Kiss and Twisted Sister. Like his fellow metal heads, Mr. Putaansuu hoped that transgression would sell big. But he says it took 10 years to get a record deal because Finnish labels were so turned off by the band's appearance.

Under their masks, the band members are quintessential Finns. Awa, the ghost, is a soft-spoken blond who wears glasses and studied classical music. Even Mr. Putaansuu, who wears a black leather jacket when not sporting serpent lapels, says his music is closer to gospel than Satan. After all, one of the band's hit songs is "The Devil Is a Loser."

"Even if we lose the contest, we have already won," Mr. Putaansuu said. "Many Finns would rather have sent someone boring and acceptable than to be represented by freaks like us."

Petr
04-24-2006, 07:09 PM
Thank goodness I am utterly indifferent about Eurovision silliness. :p


Petr

Jimbo Gomez
04-24-2006, 07:37 PM
Hey Petr, do you like Finntroll?

O'Zebedee
04-24-2006, 07:40 PM
Finntroll is great fun.

infoterror
04-24-2006, 08:28 PM
Plastic culture.

Non-fucked-up-Finnish metal bands:

BELIAL
AMORPHIS
DEMIGOD
BEHERIT
SENTENCED

Sulla the Dictator
04-24-2006, 08:37 PM
Looks like a Gwar rip off.

jcs
04-24-2006, 08:37 PM
Plastic culture.

Non-fucked-up-Finnish metal bands:

BELIAL
AMORPHIS
DEMIGOD
BEHERIT
SENTENCED
Isn't Demilich Finnish?

infoterror
04-24-2006, 08:41 PM
Isn't Demilich Finnish?

Wow, you're right; I completely forgot.


DEMILICH


Free album download:
http://www.anentity.com/demilich

jcs
04-24-2006, 08:47 PM
The Condensed List:
Or, Essentials:

Amorphis
Beherit
Demilich

I AM MORE ELITIST THAN YOU

OVERWATCH
04-24-2006, 09:05 PM
The best Finnish bands [that I have heard] are Karjalan Sissit and Mistreat.

infoterror
04-24-2006, 09:28 PM
I AM MORE ELITIST THAN YOU

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6092/desecration9ur.gif

On a serious note, I believe your list should include BELIAL and DEMIGOD; SENTENCED put out one good album and then flaked like a Head'n Shoulders commercial, so they're probably not a great example...

Sinclair
04-24-2006, 10:04 PM
Kiss is heavy metal now?

I thought Kiss was cock-rock in funny outfits?

Keystone
04-24-2006, 10:55 PM
Kiss is heavy metal now?

I thought Kiss was cock-rock in funny outfits?
KISS were the godfathers of heavy metal man. Gene Simmons always said so....:D

I saw them in 1975 and was LMAO. These Finns are even funnier. I'm sure they are virtuosos (virtuosi?).

More costumes=less talent.

il ragno
04-24-2006, 11:13 PM
I don't much care for extreme metal, but SENTENCED and AMORPHIS are ok. Are/were TIAMAT Finnish? They had their moments as well.

Finnish bands (older, and much more rock than metal per se) I like include KINGSTON WALL, FIVE FIFTEEN and much of the Lion Records roster run by LARS MATTSSON (although I dunno how many are actually Finnish besides Mattsson himself). A decades-old folk-fusion outfit taking a page or two from the Terje Rypdal book, FINNFOREST, are worth a listen, if an acquired taste - like salmiakki..

STRATOVARIUS, on the other hand, are dogshit - a neoclassical/wanker version of shite like Night Ranger. (Naturally they're by far the most popular of Finnish exports. Some priciples, alas, are universal, such as 'shit floats'.)

Insofar as the article is concerned, I never pay attention to 'rock journalism'. Stories such as these write themselves by now - I'm half-convinced there's already software, probably called the KERRANGINATOR 5000, that'll churn out copy like this as soon as you enter the variables you want (Finland, metal, extreme, scary makeup, stupid fucking Kiss boots) and hit 'print'.

infoterror
04-24-2006, 11:16 PM
Gene Simmons always said so....

Chaim Witz?

Keystone
04-24-2006, 11:17 PM
I doion't much care for extreme metal, but SENTENCED and AMORPHIS are ok. Are/were TIAMAT Finnish? They had their moments as well.
There's no such thing as "metal". It's rock and roll, or it ain't.

infoterror
04-24-2006, 11:17 PM
Are/were TIAMAT Finnish?

Swedish, I think -- formerly named TREBLINKA.

infoterror
04-24-2006, 11:18 PM
There's no such thing as "metal". It's rock and roll, or it ain't.

Underground metal ain't rock and roll.

Keystone
04-24-2006, 11:18 PM
Chaim Witz?
Yeah. The Israeli....:D

Keystone
04-24-2006, 11:20 PM
Underground metal ain't rock and roll.
Whatever man....

They ain't playing jazz. Do you think they've invented a whole new musical genre?

il ragno
04-24-2006, 11:26 PM
Actually, FINNFOREST were sort of playing jazz, kinda. But someone of your bent should check out Kingston Wall, 'Stone, difficult as the cds are to find. Absolutely brilliant guitarist - Finland's best, I think - and a sound squarely rooted in the Cream/Hendrix/Zeppelin tradition.

Keystone
04-24-2006, 11:33 PM
Actually, FINNFOREST were sort of playing jazz, kinda. But someone of your bent should check out Kingston Wall, 'Stone, difficult as the cds are to find. Absolutely brilliant guitarist - Finland's best, I think - and a sound squarely rooted in the Cream/Hendrix/Zeppelin tradition.
I'll see what I can find on the Net. Thanks.

I find most rock can be traced back to a handful of Little Richard and Everly Brothers tunes...:D

EDIT: Forgot Chuck Berry.....that's it.

tricknologist
04-24-2006, 11:36 PM
Plastic culture.

Non-fucked-up-Finnish metal bands:

BELIAL
AMORPHIS
DEMIGOD
BEHERIT
SENTENCED

Have you heard ENDUPDEAD ? I've had people tell me that Amorphis is good, but I haven't had a chance to hear them.

OVERWATCH
04-24-2006, 11:52 PM
Have you heard ENDUPDEAD ?

I have an old tape of theirs around here somewhere. From what I remember they were OK.

infoterror
04-25-2006, 12:28 AM
Do you think they've invented a whole new musical genre?

I don't think rock is a whole new musical genre. I think it's German popular music on guitars, with an emphasis on the color notes.

Underground metal is substantially different from heavy metal, in most cases...

Keystone
04-25-2006, 12:31 AM
I don't think rock is a whole new musical genre. I think it's German popular music on guitars, with an emphasis on the color notes.

??????????????

jcs
04-25-2006, 12:41 AM
I've had people tell me that Amorphis is good, but I haven't had a chance to hear them.
The Karelian Isthmus. Get it. Listen. Now.
Since abandoning metal in favor of the vastly superior classical, I've found myself only missing one album, and this is it.

il ragno
04-25-2006, 12:44 AM
Veering somewhat offtopic, those of you int'd in obscure 80s thrash and underground metal should beat a path to

http://vibrationsofdoom.com/test/index.html

Sure, the files are just crappy Real Audio - but rather than 30 and 60-second clips, this site has entire albums stored thereon -935 of them, no less. You can't download sync copies - or at least if you can, I haven't figured out how - but you can listen to any or all of these albums, or just selected tracks of your choosing, gratis.

So if you'd like to hear again (or for the first time ever) blasts from the mulleted past like HELSTAR's "Distant Thunder", CHATEAUX's "Chained And Desperate", or TANK's "Filth Hounds Of Hades"....here's yer site, like that redneck comedian almost sez.

Dan Dare
04-25-2006, 05:51 AM
It's quite curious that nobody has mentioned the Leningrad Cowboys so far.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews7/leningradcowboys/poster2.jpg

Banat
05-21-2006, 01:13 AM
BBC NEWS (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4998186.stm)

EUROVISION RESULTS
1. Finland - 292 points
2. Russia - 248
3. Bosnia and Herzegovina - 229
4. Romania - 172
5. Sweden - 170
6. Lithuania - 162

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41667000/jpg/_41667998_lordiap_203.jpg

Finnish monsters rock Eurovision

A Finnish "horror rock" group who dress in monster costumes have pulled off a surprise win at the 51st Eurovision Song Contest in Athens.

European viewers voted for Lordi's song Hard Rock Hallelujah in a show that is normally associated with catchy pop and big ballads.

Russia was second with Dima Bilan's Never Let You Go.

But UK rapper Daz Sampson could only manage to come 19th out of 24 countries with his song Teenage Life.

Lordi's masks, armour and jets of flame attracted widespread attention before the contest - but many thought they were too outlandish to win.

"We are a rock band and we just won Eurovision - that's weird," their lead singer, also called Lordi said.

"This was a victory for rock music and also a victory for open-mindedness," he said.

The result would open the doors for a wider range of musical styles at Eurovision in the future, he predicted.

"This is proof that from now on there will be more rock bands who will have the courage to join in," he said.

"This is proof that there are rock fans who watch Eurovision."

The band had been accused by some conservative Greek organisations of promoting Satanism but said they had no connection with the occult.

"We have nothing to do with satan worshipping or anything like that - this is entertainment," Lordi said.

Lordi amassed 292 points after a public vote - 44 ahead of Russia, whose performance by featured a ballerina emerging from a grand piano.

Bosnia and Herzegovina's entrant Hari Mata Hari was in third place, followed by Romania's Mihai Traistariu.

Carola, from Sweden, who was the bookmakers' favourite before the contest and won in 1991, came fifth.

Sixth place went to Lithuania's LT United, six men in suits singing: "We are the winners of Eurovision."

Hosts Greece came ninth with Anna Vissi, who had also been hotly tipped.

She was followed by Ireland's Brian Kennedy, who rounded off the top 10 with Every Song Is A Cry For Love.

Daz Sampson - one half of dance duo Uniting Nations - only gathered 25 points from the 35 countries that took part in the vote.

No country failed to get off the mark - Malta's Fabrizio Faniello came last with one point.

The other contenders included a German country and western singer, Israeli gospel and a Latvian a capella group.

Some 18,500 fans packed the arena in the Olympic stadium complex, with 2,000 journalists and 3,000 police officers on duty.

The result means Finland will host the competition next year.

Banat
05-21-2006, 01:19 AM
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4379/fintan4b5pn.jpg

Keystone
05-21-2006, 01:34 AM
A Finnish "horror rock" group who dress in monster costumes have pulled off a surprise win at the 51st Eurovision Song Contest in Athens.
Wow. It's a good thing the Americans have all the bad taste...

Felix the Cat
05-21-2006, 07:03 AM
http://media.t-online.de/music/F/wm/12_EBU_VideoFW10000073322.asx

Jimbo Gomez
05-21-2006, 10:00 AM
This song pwn3d. I was rooting for them all the way. :D

Geist
05-21-2006, 01:16 PM
They were very good, they actually deserved it, mind its the only song I seen but everyone agreed with my idea that theyd win and alas they did!

Go team finland!

Ambrosio Spinola
05-21-2006, 02:17 PM
Maybe this will wake those retards out of the Eurovision queer song contest.

Jimbo Gomez
05-21-2006, 02:36 PM
The song's sound reminds me of good old fashioned 80's hair rock.

brigadier Biggles
05-21-2006, 09:31 PM
everything else sucked, no catchy tunes like there used to be just plain boring pop crap, although Romania and Sweden were quite good...

Daniel Shays
05-21-2006, 09:35 PM
Why is Israel in a Eurovision contest?

Is Israel the 800 pound hooknosed gorilla that no one wants to talk about or something?

brigadier Biggles
05-21-2006, 10:11 PM
LOL funny you should say that as Israels entry was sung by a big fat black guy ! :D.

WFHermans
05-22-2006, 02:43 AM
A nigger from the hood who assumes the kike religion has the right to steal the land of the Palestinians and rape and murder their women and children if he wants to, thanks to perverts like George W. Bush.

I think that many people voted for the monsters because they thought they would never be allowed to win. Still, it's racist that the nigger kike lost, and I can perfectly understand that Pisrael has as one of its stated goals to bomb all European capitals with nukes.

brigadier Biggles
05-22-2006, 03:15 AM
did anyone notice anything about Croatias entry "Severina Vuckovic" ? :D google her...

Ahknaton
05-24-2006, 12:49 PM
Link to MP3 file (http://www.students.oamk.fi/~k3motu00/donaus/Hard_Rock_Hallelujah.mp3)

Jimbo Gomez
05-24-2006, 12:54 PM
Link to MP3 file (http://www.students.oamk.fi/~k3motu00/donaus/Hard_Rock_Hallelujah.mp3)

The Phora does not condone illegal filesharing activities.

Ace Rimmer
05-24-2006, 01:37 PM
Finland deserved it, :strong:

http://www.drakkar.de/images/lordi_pic_008.jpg

:)

Slavic Enforcer
05-24-2006, 01:41 PM
This whole Lordi hype is so pathetic..

Now all the kids think that Lordi is "cool" and want to buy their shit (from now on: good music).

But it's ok, Europe seems not to deserve anything better..